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I can't remember from which website, but I remember hearing something about choosing the Inquisitor's background at character creation.  Mark Darrah recently said, at E3 I believe, that there are decisions players make that affect the world and decisions that affect the characters in it.  

 

For those of us whose Wardens are alive and kickin' around, it's been established in DA 2 that they're still doing...something, though it seems that something is outside of whatever their romance is doing: i.e. King Alistair going to Kirkwall, Morrigan to Orlais.  Of course, the details were vague and small and could be changed without any drastic changes to the story.

 

That said, I wonder if I'm the only one who has thought that one of the Inquisitor options could be the Warden.  One of the main gripes that people had was the Warden had no voice but now there are apparently several options for the lead voice.  

 

A DA:O Warden-Inquisitor has a slew of problems:

 

- Historical consistency: What has the Warden been doing between Witch Hunt and DA:I?

- Combat consistency: Why is the Hero of Ferelden starting at level 1? (Though this isn't a huge issue)

- Romance/Prior-Companion consistency: Old Protagonist with mostly new companions is hard to do, particularly for gamers who want to see their romance options play an active role in the party.  Think Mass Effect 3 if you didn't romance any of the ME3 party members.  

 

I know the Warden and Hawke are both supposedly disappeared by 9:40 Dragon but that masked gender-neutral guy running around with Morrigan is awful suspicious.  Compiled with how open the Inquisitor spot seems to be, there seems to be a very slim chance you could choose the Warden and stomach some consistency issues.

 

What I'd hate to see, as many people have suggested, feared and/or brought up, is a dead in a ditch Warden or even Hawke (who I did not really care about) in some random cave.  Just as much, I would hate to see those characters completely ignored or have their stories written without player-consent.  Having Hawke's story penciled in would be forgivable, but having a large portion of the Warden's story set in stone would seem like a betrayal to the concept of completely creating your own character and allowing the player to write their story.  

 

Then again, as Dragon Age is more about Thedas than individual characters, there is still room old characters to appear as protagonists in future games where the setting and story make more sense for them.  However, Inquisition's story seems heavily tethered to the Warden of DA:O, especially for players who stepped through the Eluvian in Witch Hunt, so it would be disappointing for the Warden to not show up at all or only in a cameo capacity.



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Never know what twist might be lurking with Bioware.

 

As much as I would like my warden to return, somehow I don't think he will be the inquisitor. It would be inconsistent as you pointed out.

 

Although it will be odd that a lot of characters from DA:O are set to return in DA:I, and my warden is not one of them. So I think if the warden does return it will be maybe  a cameo role.

 

It will hinge on the Keep for me, if I go in there and I am able to manage stuff like what my warden looked like then I am sure my warden will return physically.



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I can't remember from which website, but I remember hearing something about choosing the Inquisitor's background at character creation.  Mark Darrah recently said, at E3 I believe, that there are decisions players make that affect the world and decisions that affect the characters in it.  

 

For those of us whose Wardens are alive and kickin' around, it's been established in DA 2 that they're still doing...something, though it seems that something is outside of whatever their romance is doing: i.e. King Alistair going to Kirkwall, Morrigan to Orlais.  Of course, the details were vague and small and could be changed without any drastic changes to the story.

 

That said, I wonder if I'm the only one who has thought that one of the Inquisitor options could be the Warden.  One of the main gripes that people had was the Warden had no voice but now there are apparently several options for the lead voice.  

 

A DA:O Warden-Inquisitor has a slew of problems:

 

- Historical consistency: What has the Warden been doing between Witch Hunt and DA:I?

- Combat consistency: Why is the Hero of Ferelden starting at level 1? (Though this isn't a huge issue)

- Romance/Prior-Companion consistency: Old Protagonist with mostly new companions is hard to do, particularly for gamers who want to see their romance options play an active role in the party.  Think Mass Effect 3 if you didn't romance any of the ME3 party members.  

 

I know the Warden and Hawke are both supposedly disappeared by 9:40 Dragon but that masked gender-neutral guy running around with Morrigan is awful suspicious.  Compiled with how open the Inquisitor spot seems to be, there seems to be a very slim chance you could choose the Warden and stomach some consistency issues.

 

What I'd hate to see, as many people have suggested, feared and/or brought up, is a dead in a ditch Warden or even Hawke (who I did not really care about) in some random cave.  Just as much, I would hate to see those characters completely ignored or have their stories written without player-consent.  Having Hawke's story penciled in would be forgivable, but having a large portion of the Warden's story set in stone would seem like a betrayal to the concept of completely creating your own character and allowing the player to write their story.  

 

Then again, as Dragon Age is more about Thedas than individual characters, there is still room old characters to appear as protagonists in future games where the setting and story make more sense for them.  However, Inquisition's story seems heavily tethered to the Warden of DA:O, especially for players who stepped through the Eluvian in Witch Hunt, so it would be disappointing for the Warden to not show up at all or only in a cameo capacity.

The guy in the Lion mask has been confirmed to be Cullen. IF the Warden and/or Hawke are to appear in this game I don't think it will be until the final battle.



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Why are people so obsessed with bringing the Warden back? Like seriously, can't they just be happy with each game's protagonists as they come?


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A DA:O Warden-Inquisitor has a slew of problems:

 

- Historical consistency: What has the Warden been doing between Witch Hunt and DA:I?

- Combat consistency: Why is the Hero of Ferelden starting at level 1? (Though this isn't a huge issue)

- Romance/Prior-Companion consistency: Old Protagonist with mostly new companions is hard to do, particularly for gamers who want to see their romance options play an active role in the party.  Think Mass Effect 3 if you didn't romance any of the ME3 party members. 

You also forgot the most glaring consistency issue: the Warden most definitely wasn't a Qunari. >_>


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I think it far more likely that the Warden and Hawke have been kidnapped or something in connection with the main story.    May be using their blood for some arcane rite.  That could point to an alliance between the Architect and Corypheus, since the former wanted to Warden's blood for creating more intelligent dawkspawn and the latter was needed to free Cory from his prison.    So may be a combination of both is needed to free some other Magister or Old God from their prison.

 

However, we have been told that you can claim certain areas in the name of the Hero of Ferelden.   I don't think that points to you being the Warden but it could mean that you either meet the Warden or someone close to them who can tell you what has happened to them.    I'm pretty sure that finding out what has become of our previous two heroes will form an integral part of the story, otherwise it wouldn't have been flagged up so strongly at the end of DA2.


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Why are people so obsessed with bringing the Warden back? Like seriously, can't they just be happy with each game's protagonists as they come?

 

Happy with the new inquisitor, but I would like to know what happened to my warden and even Hawke.


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Why are people so obsessed with bringing the Warden back? Like seriously, can't they just be happy with each game's protagonists as they come?

 

I think part of it is people generally being unhappy with the "and then he (or she) disappeared" epilogue. 

 

While I don't want to see the Warden return as a protagonist, I do hope Bioware has something planned with the character and the disappearance wasn't a cheap way of writing the character out of sequels.


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DA I is like Origins in that your class+race is your background.

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Why are people so obsessed with bringing the Warden back? Like seriously, can't they just be happy with each game's protagonists as they come?

 

People like closure. 


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People like closure. 

 

Then go Ultimate Sacrifice. Or use your imagination.

 

Honestly, its a bit weird since they seem to be turning the disappearance into a plot point, and I think it was probably a poor decision. Surely it would have been relatively simple to just have the Warden dead/travelling/ruling Ferelden/whatever and Hawke just galavanting along the road with their LI somewhere in Thedas. Thedas is a big place, it wouldn't have been inconceivable to have just never seen them again.


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Then go Ultimate Sacrifice. Or use your imagination.

 

Honestly, its a bit weird since they seem to be turning the disappearance into a plot point, and I think it was probably a poor decision. Surely it would have been relatively simple to just have the Warden dead/travelling/ruling Ferelden/whatever and Hawke just galavanting along the road with their LI somewhere in Thedas. Thedas is a big place, it wouldn't have been inconceivable to have just never seen them again.

 

That was an option with the Warden, one I took. Hawke is going to vanish no matter what. It's fine to say use your imagination, and if the game were stand alone, than would work. However there is little point using your imagination when Bioware can pop them back into the story in whatever manner they see fit. 


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You also forgot the most glaring consistency issue: the Warden most definitely wasn't a Qunari. >_>

 

How does that cause a consistency issue? A Qunari Inquisitor isn't mandatory.

 

However, as much as I think Warden/Hawke being the Inquisitor could be interesting, I'm extremely skeptical about it happening. Both had their stories officially stated as being over at one point or the other, IIRC.



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not happening



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It's not going to happen, and I would be disappointed if it did. 



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That was an option with the Warden, one I took. Hawke is going to vanish no matter what. It's fine to say use your imagination, and if the game were stand alone, than would work. However there is little point using your imagination when Bioware can pop them back into the story in whatever manner they see fit. 

 

Going by the disappearing act trend, then it is safe to say the inquisitor will disappear too, of course Bioware could do an ME3 ending too ... the horror



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There is another glaring issue the warden and inquisitor have a set last name which are different so they can't be the same person (not unless the names are fake).

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The last name for the Inquisitor changes based on race. And it doesn't seem as if anyone uses your last name anyway; they just refer to you as "Inquisitor".


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Yeah...No.

 

I would like to see my Wardens (Who survived anyway) again, but I would not like that!



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Maybe the Inquisitor will walk into a random tavern, and the Warden and Hawke are getting drunk in their own private little corner, and the joke pretty much writes itself.


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Maybe the Inquisitor will walk into a random tavern, and the Warden and Hawke are getting drunk in their own private little corner, and the joke pretty much writes itself.

 

The chairs should have Warden and Hawke on the back there should also be a chair that has "reserved for the Inquisitor" written on it. But every time you try to click on it a voices says "You can't use that yet". 


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No the warden is not going to be the inquisitor, the devs have been consistent in saying that we will be playing as a new character to the series and when people brought up them being the main character or playable Gaiders answer was no, or hell no for the latter one.

The devs have been saying for years that if the warden and/or hawke are in DAI then they will be npc's and most likely have more than a simple cameo since that would make a lot of people angry if they just brought them back for that. Gaider stated awhile ago if they decided to bring them back than it would be important to them to try and get it right and that if it was just a cameo then they wouldn't bother trying to do so.

They have a plan for them and regardless of whether or not they show up we will find out what happened to them and why they disappeared.

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I know chances are slim non-existent to none, but if the Warden somehow turns out to be the Inquisitor I'd have a heart attack, stroke, or both. Long live the Warden-Commander!



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Yeah, NEW CHARACTER! They stated many times and the Warden wouldn't be in the Inquisitor because obviously Leliana or Morrigan or Cullen would recognized them as so and the Warden is missing.



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Yeah, NEW CHARACTER! They stated many times and the Warden wouldn't be in the Inquisitor because obviously Leliana or Morrigan or Cullen would recognized them as so and the Warden is missing.