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[bairdduvessa]

Question for the day:

 

As far as religion and spirituallity is concerned, where do you think Morrigan stands?

 

I will toss out a few salient quotes to get the discussion going.

 

It's clear that Morrigan isn't a fan of Andrastianism or the Chantry:

•  Morrigan to Leliana: "It simply suits my view of the Chantry that one of their devoted sisters should turn out to be so full of hypocrisy."
• (statue of Andraste) "Fools. Praying for help from a prophet they burned and a god who has turned His back on them not once but twice."
• (outside Redcliffe chantry) "Ahh, fresh air. 'Twas difficult to breathe within with all that self-righteousness crowding the air."
• Alistair: So tell me, then: what was the name of Andraste's husband? Morrigan: This is a religious question, not an academic one. Alistair: You're joking, right? A five year-old could answer that question. Do you not know more than a child? Morrigan: I care nothing for your religion. And this game of yours is over.

She also claims to not believe in the Maker:

• Leliana: I'm wondering Morrigan... do you believe in the Maker?
• Morrigan: Certainly not. I've no primitive fear of the moon such that I must place my faith in tales so that I may sleep at night.

Where does that leave her, then? David Gaider has said that Morrigan is not an atheist:

 

 

Does she believe in animism? Is she a devotee of the Old Gods? When asked why she wanted to perform the Dark Ritual, she simply replied, "Some things are worth preserving." 

to me it makes her seem more grown up than the rest, but i am a devout anti-theist 

[Gervaise]

Well even if she doesn't venerate something in the way we think of a god, she evidently thinks the old gods are something special, not just big dragons, otherwise she wouldn't be so insistent that the essence of the old god was worth saving.    She just doesn't subscribe to the faith promoted by the Chantry.   I don't recall, did she have anything to say about the Creators?     Flemeth was restored on an altar of Mythyl and needed the Dalish to do this for her, so again even if there is not a belief in gods as such, may be the spirits that can make these spells happen.

[r1ck182]

I guess Morrigan just doesn't care about religion. And she is totally against the Chantry.

 

The old gods are dragons, but not like any high dragon, I guess. It's clear she doesn't believe them to be just ordinary dragons, but I can't think she worships them. I think it's just a matter of power for her.

[KC_Prototype]

I hope that she doesn't poison my child's mind with this "Maker is not real" crap. He will be an ANDRASTIAN! 

[KC_Prototype]

@TheDarkKnightReturns: okay, that makes sense. Sorry, I opted to keep the Anvil, per Morrigan's advice, so I never heard those lines.

 

@ KC_Prototype: There is no way that Morrigan would raise the OGB to be a devotee of Andraste. Even if she acknowledges the existence of the Maker and/or Andraste, she clearly views Andrastianism and the Chantry with contempt.

I don't want the OGB to be some devotee of the Old Gods. 

[Shinblam]

I hope that she doesn't poison my child's mind with this "Maker is not real" crap. He will be an ANDRASTIAN! 

 

Well then, maybe your Warden should have done more fathering and less getting-caught-up-in-the-plans-of-powerful-and-mysterious-maybe-gods. Hmm?

[KC_Prototype]

The OGB isn't "some devotee of the Old Gods." He is an Old God. It would be rather bizarre for him to also be an Andrastian.

He can still believe in the Maker and be an Andrastian. Think of him being like a super powerful being but giving props to an even more super powerful being,

[KC_Prototype]

Well then, maybe your Warden should have done more fathering and less getting-caught-up-in-the-plans-of-powerful-and-mysterious-maybe-gods. Hmm?

Hey, in my headcanon, my Warden is doing all he can to be the best dad in Thedas!

[Daylen Amell]

I have a theory on what the OGB has that makes him special. For starters he would have magical abilities far greater than average, probably super human level. The Old God aspect would be to control darkspawn just like the Archdemon does. The OGB could weaponize darkspawn and have spell casting abilities far above conventional mages. That could have a large impact in what happens in Inquisition.

[LobselVith8]

If you opt to destroy the Anvil she says something along the lines of the Anvil giving the Warden power rivaling the Maker Himself. The distinction I'm seeing is that she believes in the Maker and is indifferent to Him and Andraste. But she is outright hostile to the organized religion of the Chantry.

 

I'm not seeing how Morrigan saying the Anvil would practically make The Warden a god means she believes in the Maker, which is basically what that scene amounted to.

[KC_Prototype]

I have a theory on what the OGB has that makes him special. For starters he would have magical abilities far greater than average, probably super human level. The Old God aspect would be to control darkspawn just like the Archdemon does. The OGB could weaponize darkspawn and have spell casting abilities far above conventional mages. That could have a large impact in what happens in Inquisition.

Well, it can only be assumed right? He does have the soul of an Old God. He's obviously stronger than a normal mage.

[Hilarystamp]

I'm still not convinced that the maker is "the maker". Yeah Andraste ashes have healing powers but you can see demons throughout the ruins. Something else could have easily given those ashes healing powers. I'm with morrigan on this one. He to me is not something worth praising.

[LobselVith8]

I'm still not convinced that the maker is "the maker". Yeah Andraste ashes have healing powers but you can see demons throughout the ruins. Something else could have easily given those ashes healing powers. I'm with morrigan on this one. He to me is not something worth praising.

 

Actually, Oghren suggests an alternative reason for why the ashes have healing properties. Oghren mentions there is a thick wall of lyrium effecting everything in the temple, and that it's thicker than any wall of lyrium he's ever encountered.

[LobselVith8]

That's interesting, I don't remember him saying that. Then again, there is a lot from DA:O that I don't remember (it's been a while since I replayed it).

 

Imagine Oghren saying something intelligible hehe. I like the lyrium explanation, though. Makes as much sense as any other theory.

 

Oghren says it to Leliana specifically. He does have his moments.

 

If you're curious, here is the dialogue:

 

Leliana: I never dreamed I would ever lay my eyes on the Urn of Sacred Ashes... I... I have no words to express -

 

Oghren: Don't get your knickers in a twist, sweet cheeks. I don't know how mystical this Urn really is. The lyrium veins in these walls are richer and purer than any I've sensed in a while. It's doing things... changing this temple and everything in it.