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[Ieldra]

I've linked this video in the past, but it's one of the few where a developer directly comments on the role of the OGB in the game. Skip ahead to 4:50 for a discussion on Morrigan and her child:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=H3rQOppIULg

 

Do I think that the OGB is going to be the antagonist of the game or anything? No, not likely. That would be a slap in the face to those fans who opted out of the Dark Ritual. That said, Cameron makes it pretty clear that the OGB will have a significant impact on Morrigan's character within Inquisition, giving her a more "human feel."

 

Cameron: "We want to leave this particular part as a pretty big surprise for the players because it's pretty cool ... Certainly if you were to have a kid I would imagine that would make you more human."

I'm wondering: why is it that people think "maturing" involves losing your cynicism. I rather think it would mean acquiring more of it.

 

Also, I'm quite wary of the expression "more human". It usually involves characters losing their edges and some of what made them interesting, turning into more streamlined good guys and gals. 

[Feybrad]

I'm wondering: why is it that people think "maturing" involves losing your cynicism. I rather think it would mean acquiring more of it.

 

Because maturing doesn't mean getting more cynic or more idealistic, but involves becoming more calm and open-minded, as well as tolerant. Morrigan as we know her in DA:O is very cynic and abrasive of any Opinion that differs from her own ( at least, if the Person that has the Opinion is not best Buddies with her). The World is not as dark and evil as Morrigan thinks it is and Idealism has it's Place in there. So the Expectation is, that Morrigan might lose a little of her Attitude and her extreme Viewpoints when she is described as "matured".

 

I, at least, hope so. During DA:O the mildest of my Emotions towards her is pretty good described in this Article from TVTropes.

[Ieldra]

Because maturing doesn't mean getting more cynic or more idealistic, but involves becoming more calm and open-minded, as well as tolerant. Morrigan as we know her in DA:O is very cynic and abrasive of any Opinion that differs from her own ( at least, if the Person that has the Opinion is not best Buddies with her). The World is not as dark and evil as Morrigan thinks it is and Idealism has it's Place in there. So the Expectation is, that Morrigan might lose a little of her Attitude and her extreme Viewpoints when she is described as "matured".

 

I, at least, hope so. During DA:O the mildest of my Emotions towards her is pretty good described in this Article from TVTropes.

More tolerant and less abrasive, yes, I can see that happening. Less cynical.... I have my doubts about whether I'll find that believable. We'll see.

[Jazzpha]

I imagine she'll be calmer and more controlled in how she expresses her disagreement with people, but not necessarily less hard-edged. Just more... patient, I guess is the word I'm looking for. Having to raise children does that to you

 

I'm sure she'll still be relatively pragmatic/cynical (she was raised by Flemeth, after all), but especially if she had a relationship and child with the Warden I can see her being more compassionate in private than she was in DAO. Not that she'll be skipping through the meadows sprinkling flowers everywhere, just that she'll be a bit more unguarded in private moments with emotions that she might have used to consider "weak".

 

But by the same token, I think having close relationships to protect (and especially if she has a child to keep safe) will almost certainly bring out Morrigan's protective instinct in force. I assume she wants to be a better mother than Flemeth (assuming Flemeth can even be called a "mother"), and if you try to go after her kid, well, don't be surprised if you get torn apart slowly, and in great pain.

[Eveangaline]

I wonder if our Inquisitor will have the chance to become friends with her like our warden did, or if she's more of just..an important npc and quest giver but not someone whose opinion of you will change. I enjoyed a semi-sisterly relationship with her with most of my wardens, it'd be interesting to see how she can come to feel about the inquisitor.

[KC_Prototype]

Seeing as Morrigan had my Warden child in most of my play throughs, I want to think she's more human, nice and compassionate. She shouldn't still be all about survival of the fittest all the time. 

[Eveangaline]

So I have to admit....I wonder if we're going to find out Morrigan has been using magic to get the Empresses ear? It'd be kind of an interesting quest and it'd be fun to either talk her out of it or say "nah just go brainwash whatever jerk I help put on the throne, they're both a-holes" (assuming you get to pick who ends up on the throne)

[Roamingmachine]

I get the feeling that Morrigans plans go far beyond the physical realm. The OGB, her own heritage, the amassing of both political and arcane power...What objective would require such power to be thrown at it? The sheer scale of it just makes me go O_O She's never come across as someone who would enjoy lording over people so I doubt merely running a kingdom is the objective here. I do wonder, though, just how much of it all is her carrying out here mothers plans unknowingly, manipulated from birth?

Thinking about all this and the state of the world in Inquisition, I feel that this is pretty much Morrigans song right now:

[Ieldra]

I get the feeling that Morrigans plans go far beyond the physical realm. The OGB, her own heritage, the amassing of both political and arcane power...What objective would require such power to be thrown at it? The sheer scale of it just makes me go O_O She's never come across as someone who would enjoy lording over people so I doubt merely running a kingdom is the objective here.

I certainly hope that her plans are bigger than that. Anything else would be a disappointment. Giving the many hints about a big change - which I see her plans to be connected to - but no hard facts whatsoever, however, I'm afraid the writers might have planned bigger than they're able to deliver again (see ME). The cynic in me insists Morrigan's plans are petty and insignificant and that "change" refers to the end of DAI, where we're going to meet the Maker, who's a real bastard, and he'll give us three options about how to change the world. The reasonable part of me answers "Nobody's going to be that dumb", and the cynic replies "no?". 

 

It's a small voice - small enough to make fun of - but insistent.

[Joe25]

Why do I picture Flemeth telling Morrigan this before she left with the Warden. 

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[LobselVith8]

I get the feeling that Morrigans plans go far beyond the physical realm. The OGB, her own heritage, the amassing of both political and arcane power...What objective would require such power to be thrown at it? The sheer scale of it just makes me go O_O She's never come across as someone who would enjoy lording over people so I doubt merely running a kingdom is the objective here. I do wonder, though, just how much of it all is her carrying out here mothers plans unknowingly, manipulated from birth?

 

With Briala gone, I suppose Celene could depend more and more on Morrigan during the civil war, although I suppose her endgame still remains a mystery. The Old God Baby, the Eluvian, the implication of power in the destination it lead to, and her place at Celene's side are all mysteries that could elude to a variety of different plans she has initiated, or maybe a singular goal. I wonder how the Inquisitor might fit into this, since she seemed to be aware that the Breach was coming, or if the protagonist is going to be a wild card she thinks may be useful in her grandiose plans.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I'm calling it right now that Morrigan's plan is going to be a smaller version of that Magister's mind control idea. She's 'instructing' Celene in here magic is so she can get close to her and those in power and then she'll flip the switch and Orlais will become a puppet state for her and her plans.

[LobselVith8]

I'm calling it right now that Morrigan's plan is going to be a smaller version of that Magister's mind control idea. She's 'instructing' Celene in here magic is so she can get close to her and those in power and then she'll flip the switch and Orlais will become a puppet state for her and her plans.

 

So, basically Morrigan is Chancellor Warden with Empress Celene as a weak King Alistair?

[jlb524]

With Briala gone, I suppose Celene could depend more and more on Morrigan during the civil war, although I suppose her endgame still remains a mystery. 

 

In what ways?  Both Briala and Morrigan cover different areas of expertise. 

 

Morrigan does know about eluvians so that could be bad news for Briala if Morrigan is aiding Celene in opposing what Briala is trying to accomplish.

[ISpeakTheTruth]

Uh no. Morrigan isn't evil. She's a troll. There's a difference.

 

Someone who is willing to betray you and abandon you to death if you don't go along with her plan is a little evil in my book.

[Alan Rickman]

When has she ever betrayed the player?

[LobselVith8]

In what ways?  Both Briala and Morrigan cover different areas of expertise. 

 

Morrigan does know about eluvians so that could be bad news for Briala if Morrigan is aiding Celene in opposing what Briala is trying to accomplish.

 

In terms of an adviser who Celene may trust and confide in, given that Morrigan may have a reputation because of the Fifth Blight (and the presence of the Hero of Ferelden seems to quash the bounty the templars put out on her head in the Orlesian Warden run of "Witch Hunt", and Anders makes an indirect reference to her as one of the people who stopped the Fifth Blight). Given the civil war and the recent loss of her personal bard and champion, Celene may rely on Morrigan in different ways. I remain uncertain as to what goal Morrigan's agenda is, although I doubt it's malevolent. Morrigan's complicated, which makes me think her goal may prove to be quite intriguing.

[jlb524]

In terms of an adviser who Celene may trust and confide in, given that Morrigan may have a reputation because of the Fifth Blight (and the presence of the Hero of Ferelden seems to quash the bounty the templars put out on her head in the Orlesian Warden run of "Witch Hunt", and Anders makes an indirect reference to her as one of the people who stopped the Fifth Blight). Given the civil war and the recent loss of her personal bard and champion, Celene may rely on Morrigan in different ways. I remain uncertain as to what goal Morrigan's agenda is, although I doubt it's malevolent. Morrigan's complicated, which makes me think her goal may prove to be quite intriguing.

 

If her goal puts her at odds with Briala (like if Morrigan wants the eluvians for herself), I'm curious who would you side with between the two?

[LobselVith8]

If her goal puts her at odds with Briala (like if Morrigan wants the eluvians for herself), I'm curious who would you side with between the two?

 

It would depend on their objectives, and why they want control of the Eluvians. I tend to divorce myself from the character and take certain actions that make sense in the perspective of the character, which is why my apostate Champion rescued Renvil Harrowmont, despite my Surana Warden's political alliance with King Bhelen. I imagine a Dalish mage would be receptive to Morrigan, as a Witch of the Wild (in the same fashion Ariane's clan welcomed her), so that allows me an in-character reason to get along with someone I like a great deal as a player; maybe she even has an elven name, like Flemeth does. An alliance with either one would depend on what the overall goal is, but I suspect she already got what she was looking for from the Eluvian in the Dragonbone Wastes.