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Morrigan Research, Discussion, and Speculation Thread - The Chasind Have Tales of We Witches


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I think Morrigan is substituting Asha'bellanar's plan for one of her own, and she might be using the foundation of the original plan as a springboard for something she cooked up on her own. Perhaps the Inquisitor might be presented with the choice between siding with Asha'bellanar or Morrigan.

that would be something great, so long as it wasn't just black and white, good or bad plan from either side. As much as I love morrigan if that did happen in the game, I would want it to be a hard decision to make.

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i still don't think flemmeth was evil



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Like everyone else, I don't know what their plans are, but they don't come across as sinister to me. Flemeth has so far been friendly to both Hawke and the Warden, going so far as to save them from certain death. That this suits her purposes is no indication of those purposes being sinister. They're just unknown, probably a bit too large to grasp without knowledge we don't have yet. I think there is great interest in this mystery, and its solution should be interesting. It would be greatly disappointing if there was nothing but an Evil Plan behind it all.

Morrigan's purposes are equally unknown and equally don't come across as sinister to me. Maybe they've been smaller to start with, but it appears to me they may have matured into a greater purpose between DAO and DAI.

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Like everyone else, I don't know what their plans are, but they don't come across as sinister to me. Flemeth has so far been friendly to both Hawke and the Warden, going so far as to save them from certain death. That this suits her purposes is no indication of those purposes being sinister. They're just unknown, probably a bit too large to grasp without knowledge we don't have yet. I think there is great interest in this mystery, and its solution should be interesting. It would be greatly disappointing if there was nothing but an Evil Plan behind it all.

Morrigan's purposes are equally unknown and equally don't come across as sinister to me. Maybe they've been smaller to start with, but it appears to me they may have matured into a greater purpose between DAO and DAI.

plus flemmeth apologies in advance to what is going to happen to hawke and merrill



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plus flemmeth apologies in advance to what is going to happen to hawke and merrill

I don't recall that, but the impression I get is that this change is a natural event, or an inevitable consequence of something that happened far in the past. I've speculated this has to do with both Sandal's prophecy and Yavana's claim that there once was no Veil. Anyway, it doesn't appear as if Flemeth could do anything about it, more that she'll ride the storm and try to get something out of it for herself and her plans. And she recommends that Hawke does the same. I consider this good advice.

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I don't recall that, but the impression I get is that this change is a natural event, or an inevitable consequence of something that happened far in the past. I've speculated this has to do with both Sandal's prophecy and Yavana's claim that there once was no Veil. Anyway, it doesn't appear as if Flemeth could do anything about it, more that she'll ride the storm and try to get something out of it for herself and her plans. And she recommends that Hawke does the same. I consider this good advice.

an all out evil person wouldn't do that thought.  they'd say thanks or not and then laugh behind their backs.



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an all out evil person wouldn't do that thought.  they'd say thanks or not and then laugh behind their backs.

 

*Raises Brow*

 

You need to learn of Lawful and Chaotic Evil then.

 

Evil like all moralities, comes with its own variations, rules and guidelines.

 

A Lawful Evil Character can give a Protagonist advice to be sporting or to satisfy their sense of Honor, While a Chaotic Evil entity may do the same just because they don't care how their actions effect those around them.


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Spoiler

 

Yeaaaah, if the OGB shows up in the game I will totally have a "THAT'S MY SON!" moment.


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If Yavana lived for over three hundred years, that might not be the case. If Batman is right about Flemeth putting a portion of her soul into her "daughters", it could explain the ritual that Morrigan was concerned about, since Yavana never disputes that something would have transpired; she merely tells King Alistair that it is a "gift" (which, as Mr. Wayne pointed out, is the same thing Abomination Uldred says about possession).

 

This is  only a speculation, you cant speculate without considering all the implications.This is Horcrux magic, and this type of magic always start a link between the 2 part (like harry and tom riddle, or   Sauron and the owner of the ring), morrigan has not such link with her mother, otherwise why flemeth gave the ring to his daughter   when she was a child? Why Morrigan knew nothing about the ancient dragons  tongue?
Also Yavana why she is still live? The horcrux magic do not guarantee the eternal youth, and yavana seems to be  very young
for someone who has 300 years old.


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Also Yavana why she is still live? The horcrux magic do not guarantee the eternal youth, and yavana seems to be  very young
for someone who has 300 years old.

 

Wild theory: maybe Yavana was possessed by Flemeth in the past and thanks to that her daughters can discover the means to possess others too.

 

After all, whose body was Flemeth using in DA:O and DAII? If we accept the possession theory as correct, and that Flemeth has been body surfing for centuries, it means it was another person's. What would have happened to that person if Flemeth had managed to possess Morrigan? Would she have been freed from the possession?

 

An old, frail woman who had spent the last decades as Flemeth's meat-suit. A horrible prospect... unless she learned a lot of tricks from Flemeth, including how to possess others. Then it would be a matter of finding a suitable candidate for possession herself.

 

It's a wild guessing, but it would explain why Yavana called it "a gift" and why she looked so young in the comics.


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Personally, I think Sandal is possessing Morrigan's body, and the first words that we hear from her will be ENCHANTMENT!!!


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Personally, I think Sandal is possessing Morrigan's body, and the first words that we hear from her will be ENCHANTMENT!!!

  

What?! She will then surely go barserk on our poor selves...and I am not sure we will be strong enoght to take barserk Morrigan at this point:)



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What?! She will then surely go barserk on our poor selves...and I am not sure we will be strong enoght to take barserk Morrigan at this point:)

 

Bah, Mages are easy.

 

Just charge them and stab them a few times, Skirts won't stop a well forged claymore.



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....or better - shield bash:))

 But on the other hand 'cone of cold'...and Morrigan start with the cold tree so she probably have the spell...



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....or better - shield bash:))

 But on the other hand 'cone of cold'...and Morrigan start with the cold tree so she probably have the spell...

 

It still doesn't help her case, Unless if she is an AOE Mage, it wouldn't do much to immobilize a single opponent.

 

Also Templar Talent tree! :D Got to love those Mana burns.



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 Well if you are going to be cheating...just imagine if the Warden made her arcane warrior. Oh the horror! She can have the protection of plate mail in a dress!

 

...not to mention better evade and being as strong as a golem :D



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*Raises Brow*

 

You need to learn of Lawful and Chaotic Evil then.

 

Evil like all moralities, comes with its own variations, rules and guidelines.

 

A Lawful Evil Character can give a Protagonist advice to be sporting or to satisfy their sense of Honor, While a Chaotic Evil entity may do the same just because they don't care how their actions effect those around them.

fair enough, but i honestly think she meant it.



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I wonder if Morrigan has told anyone about her OGB like Celene or Viv?Do you guys think she will spill the beans about the Dark Ritual

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I wonder if Morrigan has told anyone about her OGB like Celene or Viv?Do you guys think she will spill the beans about the Dark Ritual

 

Assuming it even happened?

 

Probably not.

 

She probably wouldn't tell anyone about her possible normal child either.



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I wonder if Morrigan has told anyone about her OGB like Celene or Viv?Do you guys think she will spill the beans about the Dark Ritual

 

I don't see why she would, considering how some people feel about the Old Gods; taking that risk would only endanger her child, after all.



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I imagine it'll become known to the inquisitor, but I doubt she shouts it from the rooftops.

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I imagine it'll become known to the inquisitor, but I doubt she shouts it from the rooftops.

 

Oh just think of the backlash! Say Goodbye to the position at Court Morrigan! :P

 

People thought she was just a pet mage, oh no: She salvaged the soul of a corrupted god and brought it into the world.

 

o.o I expect it to be humorous.


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an all out evil person wouldn't do that thought.  they'd say thanks or not and then laugh behind their backs.

And guess what - I don't think she's anywhere near "evil". She rather comes across like...hmm...a capricious and secretive but well-meaning deity. Of course the line between "powerful mage" and "deity" is blurry...


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Well despite being my fav character, she looks so much more evil in inquisition pics. Maybe Flemeth got her meal.