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[BlueFlame527]

That is a particular circumstance that went right out my head lol

 

I don't blame you. I tried to keep it simplified as I love leliana too much to hurt her anymore than that in one post 

[Schreckstoff]

Never had that problem. Either intimated her or left her at camp. King Cousland the Reaver who married the Queen, is in love with a Witch, and keeps a Bard on the side is the only Warden worth importing.

Some people might disagree.

I simply unlocked the Reaver and reloaded the last save before the quest but Leliana was hardened by then anyway.

[BlueFlame527]

Never had that problem. Either intimated her or left her at camp. King Cousland the Reaver who married the Queen, is in love with a Witch, and keeps a Bard on the side is the only Warden worth importing.

 

Some people might disagree. 

 

Holy womanizer Batman!...sorry could not resist when I saw your profile pic 

[KC_Prototype]

I imagine it would be awkward between them especially if the warden romanced Leliana and had an OGB with Morrigan

 

Leliana: So Morrigan how has it been not having the warden around?

Morrigan:Your seriously asking me this?

Leliana:Well he did choose me over you. I was just making sure you weren't still upset.

Morrigan:You think you won? Why it would seem that considering he was willing to do the ritual with me instead of having Allistar do it for him I think he may not care for you as much as you think. Also I have his child so I think it is clear who really won.

Leliana:You are so cruel.

Leliana would be sad and pissed at the same time. I'm pretty sure my mage Warden didn't tell Leliana he knocked up her friend/enemy. 

[Daylen Amell]

I should not have a problem with Morrigan having severe issues with others. My ideal game state would be my Amell warden in a loving relationship with her, being faithful, having the baby with her, and joining her through the eluvian. I hope that would be any Morrigan fan's game state. It has been said in interviews (not sure exactly which) that say her relationship with the warden influences her significantly in Inquisition. I would think my game state would result in Morrigan being softer, motherly, and happier from raising her son with the warden in a loving relationship. Morrigan would probably get along with others more, an issue she had in origins.

[Eveangaline]

I'm kind of wondering what will happen to her kid if you knocked her up with a non OGB and left her for Zevran before the romance got beyond a quick sack.Seriously I found out that happened because I quickly did her for the romance achievement before romancing Zevran. It was a bit odd of a revelation. Think she'll bother holding onto a possibly entirely unmagical half dwarven child?

[Schreckstoff]

I'm kind of wondering what will happen to her kid if you knocked her up with a non OGB and left her for Zevran before the romance got beyond a quick sack.Seriously I found out that happened because I quickly did her for the romance achievement before romancing Zevran. It was a bit odd of a revelation. Think she'll bother holding onto a possibly entirely unmagical half dwarven child?

There isn't a non OG baby is there?

[Mukora]

There isn't a non OG baby is there?

There could be. If you have sex with Morrigan at any point in the game, her ending slide is the same as if you had taken the Dark Ritual.

 

Of course, BioWare could dismiss this, as it is framed as a rumour.

[Ieldra]

I'm interested to see how she interacts with our companions like Cole and Vivi. One of the trailers pretty much confirmed that we are going to meet her in some way. Where do you think she, Cullen, and the Inquisitor are at anyway? Isn't she supposed to be teaching the Empress dark magic?

Why do you automatically assume it's "dark" magic? Unless "dark" means unknown or obscure, which I can totally see given that Morrigan was "somewhere else" with the Warden for some time.

I think it's very likely we'll meet her in Orlais.

[Schreckstoff]

There could be. If you have sex with Morrigan at any point in the game, her ending slide is the same as if you had taken the Dark Ritual.

Of course, BioWare could dismiss this, as it is framed as a rumour.

Probably one of the many, many bugs DAO has.

I don't know though if I'd sacrifice Loghain just to have a normal kid though.

[Mukora]

Probably one of the many, many bugs DAO has.

I don't know though if I'd sacrifice Loghain just to have a normal kid though.

Doesn't seem like a bug to me. It's very specifically triggered by having sex with her- just entering a romance won't do it.

[Ieldra]

I should not have a problem with Morrigan having severe issues with others. My ideal game state would be my Amell warden in a loving relationship with her, being faithful, having the baby with her, and joining her through the eluvian. I hope that would be any Morrigan fan's game state. It has been said in interviews (not sure exactly which) that say her relationship with the warden influences her significantly in Inquisition. I would think my game state would result in Morrigan being softer, motherly, and happier from raising her son with the warden in a loving relationship. Morrigan would probably get along with others more, an issue she had in origins.

Actually, I'm a Morrigan fan and that would most definitely not be my favorite scenario. I don't see Morrigan as the family type and would hate to see her having "motherly" as a defining trait. I'd rather see Morrigan and my Amell Warden as yes, having a relationship, but being away from each other most of the time because neither will compromise their own goals too much for the relationship. And while yes, I would like to see Morrigan being a good mother rather than a bad one, I don't see her as the type for cushioning the child from the world's harsh realities beyond what she considers necessary. And as for being influenced by the Warden, I *really* hate the stereotypical "you changed me" dynamic if it is one-sided.

In other words, I want Morrigan to retain a signficant part of her DAO personality. Maybe her cynicism has lessened (but not vanished) and her attitude towards others has become less abrasive (but still not exactly empathic), but beyond that I wouldn't want her to change.

[Schreckstoff]

Actually, I'm a Morrigan fan and that would most definitely not be my favorite scenario. I don't see Morrigan as the family type and would hate to see her having "motherly" as a defining trait. I'd rather see Morrigan and my Amell Warden as yes, having a relationship, but being away from each other most of the time because neither will compromise their own goals too much for the relationship. And while yes, I would like to see Morrigan being a good mother rather than a bad one, I don't see her as the type for cushioning the child from the world's harsh realities beyond what she considers necessary. And as for being influenced by the Warden, I *really* hate the stereotypical "you changed me" dynamic if it is one-sided.

In other words, I want Morrigan to retain a signficant part of her DAO personality. Maybe her cynicism has lessened (but not vanished) and her attitude towards others has become less abrasive (but still not exactly empathic), but beyond that I wouldn't want her to change.

If you chose to go with Morrigan, as is the premise, then your Warden clearly compromised his goal just to be with Morrigan.

Also being a parent can profoundly change people.

[BlueFlame527]

In other words, I want Morrigan to retain a signficant part of her DAO personality. Maybe her cynicism has lessened (but not vanished) and her attitude towards others has become less abrasive (but still not exactly empathic), but beyond that I wouldn't want her to change.

 

I agree. I find it is always great when writers show that they can create a character and have that character retain the defining parts of their personality even as time progresses. Of course when we play Inquisition it has been years since we last saw her as the warden, but as someone who enjoys her personality I would like to meet Morrigan in DA: I and be able to recognize her just by the way she acts and says things.  I expect small changes such as maybe she is not too unwilling to turn away from her "survival to the fittest"  attitude, but that's about it.

[Alan Rickman]

I think Jack is a pretty good example in a Bioware game of someone going through some changes over time while still being recognizably the same person. She mellowed out and not being constantly pissed off and ready to kill someone let other parts of her personality shine through. This happens regardless of whether or not you choose to romance her, so it's not just a case of Super Manly Broshep healing her with his peen.

 

I don't see Morrigan as being a doting mother or a loving housewife AT ALL (nor should she be), but I do think and hope she'd actively want to be a better mother than Flemeth was to her while still preparing her child for whatever comes next. If anything I'd find it more likely that, of the two, the Warden is a stay-at-home dad rather than Morrigan being there to pick the kid up from school and baking cookies.

 

But speaking of the Eluvian, where could it lead? Assuming it truly doesn't take you to the Fade, that would almost automatically mean that they'd introduce a new concept to the setting. Is it time travel? Is it alternate realities that are still Thedas but ever so slightly different? (see: Bioshock Infinite) Could they be introducing D&D style planes into DA?

[blussi]

Oh god, if Eluvian turns out to be something similar to Tear in Infinite my brain will truly explode. 

[Mistic]

But speaking of the Eluvian, where could it lead? Assuming it truly doesn't take you to the Fade, that would almost automatically mean that they'd introduce a new concept to the setting. Is it time travel? Is it alternate realities that are still Thedas but ever so slightly different? (see: Bioshock Infinite) Could they be introducing D&D style planes into DA?

 

According to The Masked Empire, the Eluvian network connects the mirrors through a different dimension. Felassan is impressed and wonders if the Ancient Elves cretaed some sort of tiny world between the Eluvians. But it's a world thought only for the elves, and it sickens the rest. Also, it's use is to be a network, not to be the destination itself.

 

So what Morrigan wanted should have been a way to get to a place that could only be accessed through the eluvians. We know that they connect the elven ruins they are in, and the Dalish origin showed that at least one was connected to a place taitned and infested by the darkspawn. But all of them are in Thedas, not in different dimensions.

[BlueFlame527]

According to The Masked Empire, the Eluvian network connects the mirrors through a different dimension. Felassan is impressed and wonders if the Ancient Elves cretaed some sort of tiny world between the Eluvians. But it's a world thought only for the elves, and it sickens the rest. Also, it's use is to be a network, not to be the destination itself.

 

So what Morrigan wanted should have been a way to get to a place that could only be accessed through the eluvians. We know that they connect the elven ruins they are in, and the Dalish origin showed that at least one was connected to a place taitned and infested by the darkspawn. But all of them are in Thedas, not in different dimensions.

Yea it seems like Morrigan is using the Eluvian mirrors as a way to travel accross great distances in little time and also to evade detection from Flemeth or any other threat to her.

[Alan Rickman]

That does sort of fit in with the headcanon I've had for years of the Eluvian in Witch Hunt being used to access, maybe even create a small plane of existence completely separate from Thedas and the Fade that would be ideal when trying to stay hidden from Flemeth. That is, if that in-between state between Eluvians is such that it's feasible to actually live there for years.

[Feybrad]

Could this post be more misogynistic if it tried?

 

Yes. Explain to me, what about that Post is mysogynistic? He just wonders about the possible outcome of a Situation that strikes him as "odd".