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[Shapeshifter777]

This is the same guy who said he didn't want any blood magic.  If you don't want to use a certain spec, that's your choice, but there's a lot of people who do want these specs.  Just cause you don't like it, doesn't mean they shouldn't get to play how they want to.

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[Captain Bonecold]

Here what makes no sense. No where does the player character goes to a chantry to become a templar. Or does the player character goes and gets lyrium and consumes it.

 

"Lyrium is used by the Chantry to control the Templar: templars are given lyrium to "develop their talents"

 

This stuff also makes Tranquils. And it use to make enchant items. Kinda of strange you want to consume something that is use to make runes and make other mages not able to connect to the fade anymore.

 

Templar have always hated mages. Most of them enjoy killing mages. It doesn't matter good or bad. Magic is seen as evil to them.  Knight-Commander  Meredith has a deep hate for mages. In her mind she would kill every mage in a second. She accuse them all of being blood mages. But yet we seen Templars get posses and turn into abominations.  And the Chanty knows this. Even though the mages did not do a thing in DA2 Meredith calls for the right of Right of Annulment.  First Enchanter Orsino tries to surrender to Meredith.  Like all Templars Meredith refuses to listen and wants all mages dead. Almost all Templars want mages dead.

[Captain Bonecold]

The Templar gets a passive that gives it 50% resistance.

 

ok that a big deal. 50% is a high number. You could walk though nightmare with 50% magic resistance. 

 

Lets look at the abilty Holy smith. Och that is a strong move. And it upgrades make it stronger.

 

Keep in mind that Templars do 10% more damage to spell casters and fade creatures.

 

One of it upgrades is this:

 

Spirit damage: 200% vs. spell casters and Fade creatures

 

Cleanse is another ability. It not only removes hostle effects it disables magical abilities. Meaning your reverse costing abilities are knock out.

 

And silence ability is 100% not a 60% or lower number then 100%. Making Templars able to remove abilities while still fighting other enemies. Meaning They knock out your magic abilities and knock out abilities.

[sunnydxmen]

too late its happening.

[Selene Moonsong]

Here what makes no sense. No where does the player character goes to a chantry to become a templar. Or does the player character goes and gets lyrium and consumes it.

I believe Alistair explains what he knows in Origins and can instruct your character in the skills if your character is the appropriate class to specialize as a Templar. He also doubts that the lirium infusions are really necessary at all as he has never used it and is specialized as a Templar. So, the suggestion is that the Chantry is not particularly needed to become a Templar.

[Saints]

Then don't pick that class.

[Osena109]

And some don't pay attention to what enemy assasins do to mage hawke on nightmare, or what a rogue hawke (or even isabella well specced) can do to enemy mages on nightmare.

 

And yeah, I beat it on nightmare recently (never again). maybe you don't?

I just finished dragon age 1 and 2 on nightmare it was fun and i enjoyed my self

[DeathScepter]

You can be trained as an assassin by Zervan, it doesn't make you a Crow. Or a member of the Legion of the Dead if you are Legionaire Scout, Or A dwarf if you are train as a Berserker, or a Dragon Cultist if you are a Reaver(i am aware with the questline and mentions of unlocking for Awakening as well)

 

 

So being trained as a Templar will not make you a Chantry Templar.

[Xerxes52]

No thanks, I really liked the Templar in DA2. It actually felt like a proper counter to mages compared to DA:O.

[AresKeith]

I would've prefer if the Warrior got some new specializations 

[Shapeshifter777]

I don't like playing the rogue or ranger classes in games, so I think Bioware should just remove them from the game.  Do you see the problem with this line of thinking?

[Selene Moonsong]

You can be trained as an assassin by Zervan, it doesn't make you a Crow. Or a member of the Legion of the Dead if you are Legionaire Scout, Or A dwarf if you are train as a Berserker, or a Dragon Cultist if you are a Reaver(i am aware with the questline and mentions of unlocking for Awakening as well)
 
 
So being trained as a Templar will not make you a Chantry Templar.

There is no difference between a Chantry Templar vs a warrior who specializes as a Templar. With Zev's training, you can become an Assassin, with Leliana's training, you can become a Bard, you can even become a Berserker without being an Ash Warrior or a Dwarf.

It doesn't mean you become affiliated with a specific group. Your character's abilities are the same as those, just without the extra baggage that isn't really needed to learn specific skills: in the end, it's a matter of training and skills, not of a specific group, race, or even gender.

[SerCambria358]

1. If it bothers you, dont pick it, why ask for it to be removed only because you personally didnt like it?

 

2.So because it was overpowered you want it removed completely? Why not just balance it out? Thats a lot less drastic 

 

3. Where is this mentality coming from where one fan thinks their dislike for something in the game justifies the devs changing it to meet their personal taste? 

[xXxshemlifexXx]

Here what makes no sense. No where does the player character goes to a chantry to become a templar. Or does the player character goes and gets lyrium and consumes it.

In Origins, you learn the specs from teachers who have learned those abilities themselves so it makes sense enough

 

In DA2 ShepardUM I mean Hawke is just so super cool and amazing he can learn to templar without a tutor or become a blood mage with no demon contract required

[Gileadan]

I get the feeling that the OP wants the templar spec removed because they're pro-mage and don't want any player to have access to a spec that hard-counters mages. It's flawed reasoning to claim that a unit is overpowered by comparing it exclusively to whatever unit it hard-counters and nothing else. Not every enemy in the game will be a mage.

[BloodyTalon]

http://dragonage.wik...s_(Inquisition)

Doon't pick it, but seems its back and makes sense.

[SerCambria358]

I suspect that if it were up to Bonecold there wouldn't be any specializations. This the third thread he's (or she) made asking for a spec to be removed. Why remove the option for other people instead of, you know, picking a different spec? Possibly one that you like.

 

I mean 'Blood Magic is evil remove it!' is just.... so many thoughts I don't know where to start. And now you want to get rid of Templars?

Ah the Blood magic one literally made me do this:

[Aran Linvail]

Yes i agree , remove all specializations and all the skill trees , we need a game with just auto-attack , all specializations and skill trees are bad , bad , bad ....

I demand Bioware to remove now . i dont care about anyone , it's my game , mine mine mine ....  

[Trikormadenadon]

Here what makes no sense. No where does the player character goes to a chantry to become a templar. Or does the player character goes and gets lyrium and consumes it.

 

"Lyrium is used by the Chantry to control the Templar: templars are given lyrium to "develop their talents"

 

This stuff also makes Tranquils. And it use to make enchant items. Kinda of strange you want to consume something that is use to make runes and make other mages not able to connect to the fade anymore.

 

Templar have always hated mages. Most of them enjoy killing mages. It doesn't matter good or bad. Magic is seen as evil to them.  Knight-Commander  Meredith has a deep hate for mages. In her mind she would kill every mage in a second. She accuse them all of being blood mages. But yet we seen Templars get posses and turn into abominations.  And the Chanty knows this. Even though the mages did not do a thing in DA2 Meredith calls for the right of Right of Annulment.  First Enchanter Orsino tries to surrender to Meredith.  Like all Templars Meredith refuses to listen and wants all mages dead. Almost all Templars want mages dead.

But these things are not true of all circles and Templars. This was true in Kirkwall but not everywhere else. You are letting one example cloud your way of thinking. The Templars for the circle in the first game did not outright hate mages. The right of annulment was called for when Gregoir thought the circle lost, but as soon as he found out Irving was ok he backed down. It is not that all Templars want to see mages dead. That was just the situation in Kirkwall at the end. And don't forget, Meredith was being influenced by that red lyrium artifact also.

[Spirit Keeper]

Bonecold MUST be a troll. There is just no way someone could honestly be this silly.

[Captain Bonecold]

I don't like playing the rogue or ranger classes in games, so I think Bioware should just remove them from the game.  Do you see the problem with this line of thinking?

Rogue is the base class. If you are an assassin you are consider as a rogue.

 

Rouges can be kill alot easier then templars. Good maker those things are hard to kill.

 

And you didn't think your topic modding wasn't a problem in a line of thinking? 

[Captain Bonecold]

I get the feeling that the OP wants the templar spec removed because they're pro-mage and don't want any player to have access to a spec that hard-counters mages. It's flawed reasoning to claim that a unit is overpowered by comparing it exclusively to whatever unit it hard-counters and nothing else. Not every enemy in the game will be a mage.

 

Or a reaver who is against templars.