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[Deathscythehell01]

i Want to Know If Bioware Will Allow Gamers To Use There Saved Data From Mass Effect 1-3 To influence What The History Of Shepard Is In Mass Effect 4 As The Best Thing About Mass Effect 1-3 Was that Your Saved Data Carried Over And You Got To See What Your Actions In The Other Games Caused To Happen In The Next Game I Dont Mind Playing A New Male Or Female Human But i want to See That Shepard Has His/Her Place In the History/Lore Of The Whole Of The Mass effect Games 

[DrBlingzle]

Well only if ME4 is going to be a sequel (which I doubt).

[Ajensis]

I find it very unlikely. The savefile data from ME1 and 2 complicated matters so much for ME3 that I just can't see them carrying anything over to ME4 (and that's assuming it'll be a sequel). They finally have an opportunity to cut the chord and lose all that 'baggage', so why would they willingly take it upon themselves to implement it? Plus, if it won't be released for last-gen consoles, it'll be a technical nightmare as well, if not outright impossible.

It's much more likely that we'll get something akin to the Dragon Age Keep - if we get anything at all.

[Sir George Parr]

Hope it won't happen at all. Hope Bioware will retire the Shepard 'Canon' and cast off all that baggage and start over.

[Sanunes]

Most of the choices I made in the previous games belong to my Shepard and I don't see a need to rehash what Shepard did with a new protagionist.  To me the next Mass Effect game is about the new protagonist and their adventures and I can only think of a couple of decisions made in Mass Effect 3 that might be important to shaping the Mass Effect Universe, but if they write the story around those choices I could see even those choices not being important to the next game either.

[SNascimento]

I'd say no.

NME should be a clean slate with no ties to the previous trilogy. 

[Excella Gionne]

I LOL'd. That is unlikely. And what's with the capital letters on every word?

[bayofangels]

If they do it it'll be via a web-based interface like Dragon Age's Keep. I'm guessing it'll only be very broad choices regarding the ME3 ending, too.

[durasteel]

If they do it it'll be via a web-based interface like Dragon Age's Keep. I'm guessing it'll only be very broad choices regarding the ME3 ending, too.

 

This. BioWare seems to be done with the old-style save imports, and I think the new cloud based concept is a vast improvement (at least in theory.)

 

That said, I am getting the idea that BioWare is running away from the Mass Effect universe, chickening out to a completely new setting because they're scared to try to fix the mess they made at the end of ME3. If that proves to be the case, then the only choice that matters from the Mass Effect trilogy is the choice by Mac Walters to wreck the galaxy--nothing we did makes any difference. Some people will like that, some won't.

[Dubozz]

Dragon age "Keep" dudes. I'd, say thats pretty likely.

[Heimdall]

If they do, it'll probably be through some sort of interactive prologue or a system like Dragon Age Keep.

 

Though since I doubt ME is going to take place near anything familiar to us, my guess is that it'll be minimal if they do it at all.

[Iakus]

Hope it won't happen at all. Hope Bioware will retire the Shepard 'Canon' and cast off all that baggage and start over.

Maker, please let this be so!

[Gtdef]

If it's set in the future only 3 choices should matter. Krogan, Quarian/geth and the ending. Let them move away from the old trilogy. New characters, new story. Doesn't matter what friends Shepard made along the way. It hardly even mattered on ME2 and ME3.

[Nitrocuban]

Nothing more than some tiny little hints about things that happend in ME1-3.

[XXIceColdXX]

With the console generation change I'd say no.

Will be something like Dragon Ages Keep if there is any continuation.

[Grieving Natashina]

Doubtful.  If they do something like that, it'll be similar to the Dragon Age Keep method I'm sure.  However, I'm wondering how much we'll even be able to tie in the first place.  Depending upon when/where the next ME game takes place, none of it might matter now that Shep's story is considered finished.  If, say, we end up in another galaxy, even the endings don't have to be brought up.

 

I'd honestly just hang tight for awhile.  Until we learn more, we have nothing to base any claims on about any sort of world save building/importing would impact the future ME games.

 

By the way, reading the OP gave me some serious AC: Black Flag flashbacks.  

[NM_Che56]

Given what they said about Dragon Age: Inquisition; no.  Way too many variables to try to account for in other people's machines.  If they get one thing wrong it could screw up a lot of the logic in the game (e.g. someone you know died could come back because of a bug) and it's a pain to patch it.  The Dragon Age keep helps because now Bioware can manage this data in a cloud which will update everyone's world states with correct logic in case something conflicts.
 
And really...why would we need all of that information from the Shepard Trilogy when the next game will not touch that story much at all save a few "nods" to it? How many of those micro-decisions will be of any real value or consequence?  If the game takes place after the Reaper war, there would be three decisions at most that would matter.

 

Spoiler

1. Fate of the Galaxy: Destroy Control, Synthesis, Refuse. Based on your EMS levels, you could affect if the Earth was vaporized, devastated or saved. But if you never go to Earth...then it's just a matter of tweaking some dialogue, right?

2. Did you cure the genophage or no?

3. How did you resolve the Geth/Quarian war? If you saved the Geth, then your decision could be negated by #1 above.


But really, 2 & 3 could be resolved with:

a simple, "oh, since you didn't cure the genophage, someone else did later on...but the Krogan may be distrustful of humans given Shepard's betrayal.

The Geth don't vaporized. They just get RROD (lol). So they COULD come back, but just a slightly different backstory (i.e., no repear code, so they are all still reliant on neural networks).

[Iakus]

Given what they said about Dragon Age: Inquisition; no.  Way too many variables to try to account for in other people's machines.  If they get one thing wrong it could screw up a lot of the logic in the game (e.g. someone you know died could come back because of a bug) and it's a pain to patch it.  The Dragon Age keep helps because now Bioware can manage this data in a cloud which will update everyone's world states with correct logic in case something conflicts.
 
And really...why would we need all of that information from the Shepard Trilogy when the next game will not touch that story much at all save a few "nods" to it? How many of those micro-decisions will be of any real value or consequence?  If the game takes place after the Reaper war, there would be three decisions at most that would matter.

 

Spoiler

1. Fate of the Galaxy: Destroy Control, Synthesis, Refuse. Based on your EMS levels, you could affect if the Earth was vaporized, devastated or saved. But if you never go to Earth...then it's just a matter of tweaking some dialogue, right?

2. Did you cure the genophage or no?

3. How did you resolve the Geth/Quarian war? If you saved the Geth, then your decision could be negated by #1 above.


But really, 2 & 3 could be resolved with:

a simple, "oh, since you didn't cure the genophage, someone else did later on...but the Krogan may be distrustful of humans given Shepard's betrayal.

The Geth don't vaporized. They just get RROD (lol). So they COULD come back, but just a slightly different backstory (i.e., no repear code, so they are all still reliant on neural networks).

 

And those resolutions are texbook "your choices don't matter"  

[NM_Che56]

And those resolutions are texbook "your choices don't matter"  

 

In my Don LaFontaine voice:

 

In a world where Bioware has stated emphatically and clearly that they are moving on from the Shepard trilogy why would it matter if:

 

Spoiler

 

Balak is alive or not

 

The Patriarch is alive or not

 

Conrad V. lived or not

 

You helped Gianna P 

 

Kaiden or Ashley lived

 

You saved the Batarian on Omega during the plague

 

The bulk of the ME2 cast lived or died

 

etc

[NM_Che56]

Most of the choices I made in the previous games belong to my Shepard and I don't see a need to rehash what Shepard did with a new protagionist.  To me the next Mass Effect game is about the new protagonist and their adventures and I can only think of a couple of decisions made in Mass Effect 3 that might be important to shaping the Mass Effect Universe, but if they write the story around those choices I could see even those choices not being important to the next game either.

 

Only a select handful of decisions from the three games have implications beyond Shepard.  Assuming the next game takes place after the events of ME3 and in the Milky way, this distills all of those choices down to a select few.

[Sanunes]

And those resolutions are texbook "your choices don't matter"  

 

Maybe, but how many people were saying the exact same thing about Mass Effect 3 when they allowed all companions to return and had to place an alternate character in the game if they didn't.  There is going to have to be some point when previous choices can't be incoporated without becoming a major detriment to what they are trying to accomplish and this seems like a good place to try and make that break since we are no longer in Shepard's story.

 

 

Only a select handful of decisions from the three games have implications beyond Shepard.  Assuming the next game takes place after the events of ME3 and in the Milky way, this distills all of those choices down to a select few.

 

I agree and the ones you listed in your post above are the only ones I would really like to see carried forward.

[Iakus]

In my Don LaFontaine voice:

 

In a world where Bioware has stated emphatically and clearly that they are moving on from the Shepard trilogy why would it matter if:

 

Spoiler

 

Balak is alive or not

 

The Patriarch is alive or not

 

Conrad V. lived or not

 

You helped Gianna P 

 

Kaiden or Ashley lived

 

You saved the Batarian on Omega during the plague

 

The bulk of the ME2 cast lived or died

 

etc

 

Except we are talking about the fates of entire species as well as the general state of the galaxy.  Not the same thing at all.

[Iakus]

 

Maybe, but how many people were saying the exact same thing about Mass Effect 3 when they allowed all companions to return and had to place an alternate character in the game if they didn't.  There is going to have to be some point when previous choices can't be incoporated without becoming a major detriment to what they are trying to accomplish and this seems like a good place to try and make that break since we are no longer in Shepard's story.

 

They were, and is held up as an example on how the lack of planning out the series was detrimental to the story as a whole.

 

I agree that at some point the number of chcoies becomes too much of a burden to continue.  Which is why I say shed it all and start over.  Leave the entire trilogy behind and don't look back.  Canonize nothing.  Import nothing.  Make a clean break of it.

[Mcfly616]

No more sequels. Not another trilogy. Hopefully, each Mass Effect game is a stand-alone story from now on.

 

This would allow for choices to have greater impact in a single game, as well as drastically branching narratives. Creativity thrives. No need to worry about catering to fans and not killing off a certain character so that they may return in the next installment.

[NM_Che56]

Except we are talking about the fates of entire species as well as the general state of the galaxy.  Not the same thing at all.

 

And as I stated in my first post, the fate of the galaxy is one of the only decisions that really matter.  So what am I missing here?