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[Han Shot First]

The Reapers don't wipe out all sapient life. They only wipe out space-faring life.

 

When the Reapers last invaded the Asari, Salarians, Turians, and Humans were probably still in their Stone Age. *Maybe* the Asari were in their Bronze or Iron Age since the Protheans were interfering with their development. In any case, they weren't flying space ships.

[Sir George Parr]

All technologically advanced races are eliminated, hence no more protheans. The primitive races such as human, Asari and Turian are left alone to evolve. Until its time for them to fall off their respective perches with the return of the reapers. 

[ahsari2014]

You have played masseffect just one time i presume ! There is so much information to deal with. It is understandable. But it has been explained in the game on several occasions.. The Leviathans and the catalyst and vigil for example. You know in my opinion is finding out the reason behind these attack by the reapers one of the best feature of masseffect.

[Raizo]

Exactly how much of ME3 have you played?

Without going into to much spoilers, the Reapers are a Bio organic race that were created to neutralise the potential threat that the rise of artificial life would create. They hibernate and then wake up when evidence of the existence of artificial intelligence arises, then they wipe out all life forms that have advanced beyond a certain developmental cycle and leave behind all the primitive alien species. The Asari, the Turians, the Salarians, the Humans and so on and so forth were far to primitive to be of consequence to the Reapers during their last reaping, the Asari the most advanced of the lot were still reading from stone tablets.

[Silhouette55]

Ah, okay, that makes sense. So they would probably keep the vorcha, the yahg, maybe the krogan, alive for another 50,000 years, then? I can understand that.

 

And yeah, I haven't gotten that far into ME3, I guess. Played 1 and 2, but this is my first time  playing 3. Citadel is currently being attacked by Cerberus. I know the potential endings for the games and a little bit about the Space Child, but that's about it at this point.

 

Yahg, yes. Vorcha and Krogan homeworlds were already being invaded in Mass Effect 3, so they probably wouldn't let them live.

[KaiserShep]

It doesn't make much sense that they'd care about the vorcha. They're too stupid to know or care about building synthetics.

[Raizo]

It doesn't make much sense that they'd care about the vorcha. They're too stupid to know or care about building synthetics.

True, but that does not mean they can't acquire certain technologies from more advanced species. Weren't the Vorcha referred to as scavengers in ME2. Aside from their eating habits this could also refer to the way they live their lives in general by stealing tech from other races or the corpses of their enemies.

[ahsari2014]

Remember when you met Harbinger on that secret base of Saren. That was one of the highlights of masseffect. And he gave us a lecture. I felt speechless afther he finshed. He was very intimidating .

[Kabooooom]

Yahg, yes. Vorcha and Krogan homeworlds were already being invaded in Mass Effect 3, so they probably wouldn't let them live.

Well, they were passing over Parnack, the Yahg homeworld, in ME3 - yes. But this was likely because they weren't an immediate threat and they would return to wipe them out later. It is illogical that they would NOT harvest the Yahg, because they were already launching satellites into space. Within a thousand years they could be exploring the galaxy, easily. If they let them live, they would get too advanced before the next cycle began - similar to what happened with the Protheans.

There are also indications from planet descriptions that the Reapers will, in fact, harvest Pre-spacefaring civilizations - but it is probably an exception to the rule. If they didn't, then there would be no regular time interval between the cycles. One time it may be 50,000 years, the next 2,000.

[Ajensis]

It doesn't make much sense that they'd care about the vorcha. They're too stupid to know or care about building synthetics.

 

It's not just about which species would be able to build them right now, but rather how close they are to reaching that point. Remember that the Reapers won't be back for another 50,000 years, by which time the vorcha would have evolved immensely and very likely started constructing their own synthetics. Ergo, they're almost as much a threat as any of the Council races.

[AlanC9]

Well, that's why they leave a vanguard Reaper hanging around. They can start the cycle early if someone develops faster than usual.

[Ajensis]

Well, that's why they leave a vanguard Reaper hanging around. They can start the cycle early if someone develops faster than usual.

 

That seems inconvenient. Throughout all the Cycles, each species must've developed asymmetrically, meaning a Cycle had to be started prematurely pretty often. So why use the "50,000 years" template in the first place? It makes more sense to me that they would get rid of any threats, either current or those that would become threats too soon before the next Cycle.

Plus, if they did leave the Vorcha alone, it would kinda interfere with the whole 'leave virtually no trace behind' part of the plan. The vorcha would just tell the next space-faring species about the 'big machines!' (MP reference ).

[Han Shot First]

Ah, okay, that makes sense. So they would probably keep the vorcha, the yahg, maybe the krogan, alive for another 50,000 years, then? I can understand that.

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They plan to keep around the Yahg but the Krogan and Vorcha are on the chopping block. Later in the game (or was it in DLC?) you can come across the Vorcha homeworld and scan it. The planet description says it is being invaded by the Reapers. The Vorcha are a bit of an odd choice for the Reapers to annihilate as they are a pre-space flight species, and the ones that you do see around the galaxy either stowed away on other species ships or were uplifted. Maybe because at least some Vorcha had been taken off their home world and had contact with other species, the Reapers decided to annihilate them all just to be sure none would be left to warn the next cycle.

[Malanek]

The Vorcha may never advance to the stars or develop artificial life themselves but they can tell others about the Reapers so they are effectively guilty by association.

 

I wouldn't put it past them to intend to deal with the Yahg and the Raloi before they were stopped either.

[Raizo]

Well, that's why they leave a vanguard Reaper hanging around. They can start the cycle early if someone develops faster than usual.

This. I think a lot of you take that 50,000 years too literally, my interpretation of is that it is not set in stone. It happens whenever A.I. Life springs up. Since the Reapers left behind the Citadel and all the Mass Relays for other species to discover and all sentient life in the galaxy evolves and develops space fairing technologies thanks to these devices the cycle more or less happens at regular intervals but it's actually the Reaper Vanguard that triggers the cycle.

In the the very first ME novel Sovereign was found by that doctor ( and later Saren ), they woke Sovereign up, Sobereign learnt of the existence if the Geth through all the weird indoctrination thingy, and Sovereign re-started the cycle.

[Han Shot First]

This. I think a lot of you take that 50,000 years too literally, my interpretation of is that it is not set in stone. 

 

Agreed. 

 

Actually we know for a fact that the extinction cycles don't occur exactly 50,000 years apart. The Inusannon were the species to be annihilated just before the Protheans, and they were wiped out 127,000 years before Eden Prime. That means 77,000 years passed between the Inusannon and Prothean extinctions.

[themikefest]

Remember when you met Harbinger on that secret base of Saren. That was one of the highlights of masseffect. And he gave us a lecture. I felt speechless afther he finshed. He was very intimidating .

No.

 

I remember seeing Sovereign on that secret base.

[Kabooooom]

Agreed.

Actually we know for a fact that the extinction cycles don't occur exactly 50,000 years apart. The Inusannon were the species to be annihilated just before the Protheans, and they were wiped out 127,000 years before Eden Prime. That means 77,000 years passed between the Inusannon and Prothean extinctions.

Yes, but we also know that the Reapers hibernate between cycles. It makes more sense for a cycle to begin later, than to begin earlier. If they didn't wipe out the Vorcha, Yahg, and Raloi the next cycle would probably begin in 2,000 years.

There are also curious indications from the planet descriptions that may have blasted even bronze aged species to oblivion...

...I am skeptical of that, though. That planet, Aphras, is in the same system as Tosal Nym which only had primitive oceanic life. Tosal Nym was also hit from space. That isn't the Reaper's MO. Both planets are in the same system as Zada Ban, which had evidence of Prothean mining infrastructure. And both extinction events occurred during the Prothean cycle.

All of that, taken together, suggests it was actually the Protheans that may have caused the mass extinction on both worlds. Why? Perhaps they viewed it as mercy- oblivion being preferable to submission to the Reapers. Who knows.

[ahsari2014]

No.
 
I remember seeing Sovereign on that secret base.

. Ok Sovereign . I just wanted to show the OP that have to listen carefully to what the enemies are saying. Almost every single word is a piece to the puzzle. If you have played ME just once , much information will be forgotten. I mean ME-3 has 40000 lines of dialogue. I do not think OP is a Geth.

[Farangbaa]

Regarding the 50,000 year cycle, and everything else we 'know' about the Reapers (amount of Sovereign class ships built per cycle, among other things):

 

It's all Prothean-cycle or current cycle conjecture. Nobody knows. At best everything's a guesstimation.

[Oni Changas]

It doesn't make much sense that they'd care about the vorcha. They're too stupid to know or care about building synthetics.

Vorcha reproduce fast, are incredibly durable in battle, aren't able to catch diseases, and if they ever gotten more intelligent as a whole, would be a tremendous threat.

[Heimdall]

Agreed. 

 

Actually we know for a fact that the extinction cycles don't occur exactly 50,000 years apart. The Inusannon were the species to be annihilated just before the Protheans, and they were wiped out 127,000 years before Eden Prime. That means 77,000 years passed between the Inusannon and Prothean extinctions.

Exactly.

 

The whole reason Sovereign was left behind when the rest of the Reapers left was to monitor the technological level of the galaxy's inhabitants.  The cycle is triggered by a technological threshold, not time.

 

Though that may raise the question of how the Protheans were more advanced than the current cycle before the Reapers came for them.

[Daemul]

 

Though that may raise the question of how the Protheans were more advanced than the current cycle before the Reapers came for them.

 

There's a theory I have that with each passing cycle the races the Reapers harvest get less advanced. There was a race in the past that carved their own image out of a moon for goodness sake, the Protheans could make suns go supernova. This cycle is primitive.