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[Gravisanimi]

Not like I'll have paid for it, hahaha. A four year wait gets me the game for free so I'll likely not be too hard on it if it doesn't make me happy in the face. I've already watched the narrative on Youtube ages ago, more than once. *salute*

 

What'd you like/dislike about it?

 

Personally, I do like it, but the story kinda.... isn't up to snuff of the other Halo games.

 

To use terminology from my ME3MP days, it's a victim of power creep.

 

And the combat is a little iffy.

 

Actually, I don't fully know why I have this love/hate relationship with it.

[LPPrince]

Actually, I don't fully know why I have this love/hate relationship with it.

 

Think you might give it another go?

[RZIBARA]

Halo Reach is the worst game in the series, even Halo 4 was better overall

[Steelcan]

Halo Reach is the worst game in the series, even Halo 4 was better overall

bad opinion is bad

[LPPrince]

Different opinions are different

[Gravisanimi]

Think you might give it another go?

 

Maybe, when does it come to Games for Gold?

 

I think I might join you or something when it does, since I can't get my ODST now.

[LPPrince]

Maybe, when does it come to Games for Gold?

 

I think I might join you or something when it does, since I can't get my ODST now.

 

I was wondering what happened to our ODST playthrough.

 

Reach is out September 16th till the end of the month. We have a few weeks to wait.

[Gravisanimi]

Games for Gold don't disappear at the end of the period though. So if Destiny happens first, Destiny happens first.

 

I have multiple copies of Reach because of some circumstances, so no ODST situation.

[LPPrince]

Games for Gold don't disappear at the end of the period though. So if Destiny happens first, Destiny happens first.

 

I have multiple copies of Reach because of some circumstances, so no ODST situation.

 

Destiny will come first. September 9th. But I imagine the SP of that game will be beaten by the 16th. And as for Reach, I waaas considering waiting on it until right before the MCC, but-

 

Assassin's Creed Unity was delayed to November 11th-same as the MCC. Rather than get both the same day, I'd rather put the two aside, play Inquisition, then get to AC and the MCC in time.

 

So I figure I'll just play Reach when I get it. We'll figure it out.

[LPPrince]

Some Lockout

 

 

[Gravisanimi]

My eyes are ready.

[LPPrince]

My eyes are ready.

 

There's a 1080p 60fps version of the latter Lockout video online. It is glorious.

[RZIBARA]

bad opinion is bad

 

Do you want me to ramble on about why the campaign and multiplayer were terrible? I could write an essay. I'm pretty notorious on the Halo forums for my utter hate for Reach.

[LPPrince]

Leave it on those forums, hahaha. Positivity here!

[RZIBARA]

Leave it on those forums, hahaha. Positivity here!

 

Well you can see how bad it is when you play it. Story and set pieces are utter garbage, it even goes against previously established canon from "The Fall of Reach" novel. I don't consider Halo Reach to be canon at all

 

You have no idea how happy I was when Reach wasn't included in the MCC!

[Steelcan]

Do you want me to ramble on about why the campaign and multiplayer were terrible? I could write an essay. I'm pretty notorious on the Halo forums for my utter hate for Reach.

I don't see how since its Multiplayer and Campaign were miles better than Halo 4, hell I liked it better than Halo 2 or 3 MP, but I'm not going to say the game was better than those.

 

Halo 4 though?  It was miles better in just about every category

[LPPrince]

Guess I'll find out how I feel about them in a few months.

[RZIBARA]

I don't see how since its Multiplayer and Campaign were miles better than Halo 4, hell I liked it better than Halo 2 or 3 MP, but I'm not going to say the game was better than those.

 

Halo 4 though?  It was miles better in just about every category

 

Halo 4 had a better campaign, but the multiplayer was a failure. Campaign is what really matters to me though, and that's why I'll take 4 over Reach. 

 

Halo 2 had the best campaign, as well. Great plot twists, an interesting story, the covenant story arc was fantastic, and the mission design was absolutely awesome. I will say that Halo 3 had a very dissappointing campaign in terms of story, but at least the mission design was excellent.

 

2 and 3's MP modes were vastly better than Reach, especially 2. The map design in Halo 2 was the best it has ever been, and still has not been topped. Maps like terminal, headlong, lockout, midship, turf, etc were all flawless. There is not a single map I would label as ok or bad in Halo 2. Meanwhile, Reach's map design was absolutely terrible. They had terriblely designed, the map flow was broken with AA's like sprint and the jetpack. Not to mention how slow the movement speed and jumping height were. Top that off with extremely random bloom and vehicles made of paper and you have a broken MP. 

[RZIBARA]

Reach's campaign on the other hand, was flawed. Half of the game was pointless missions that could be completed by a randpm group of marines. There wasn't even really a main plot going on till the final two missions. Mission objectives boiled down to taking down AA guns way too much, and the set pieces were smaller than anything you saw in Halo 3, yet this was the largest battle in the Halo universe. The only moment that there was a huge battle was in Tip of the Spear, and that was only seen in the cutscene. It's like a slap in the face, because right after the cutscene, rather than getting to join the battle, you get to sit in the background and blow up some AA guns. 

 

Not to mention the characters, who you barely got to see. Their personalities were pretty bland, and their deaths were pointless and poorly done. I didn't care when any of them died with the exception of Jorge (the only character you spent a decent amount of time with). I felt more emotion toward Miranda Keye's death in Halo 3 than I did for any of Noble team. 

 

I could go on even more as well.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Well you can see how bad it is when you play it. Story and set pieces are utter garbage, it even goes against previously established canon from "The Fall of Reach" novel. I don't consider Halo Reach to be canon at all

 

You have no idea how happy I was when Reach wasn't included in the MCC!

Yeah **** a more personal, grittier, and down to earth story about Soldiers in an unwinnable scenario but have to try regardless against a vastly superior foe.

Real Spartans have to be able to win everything through the flimsy justification of luck. I like Chief, but that's always been a load of crap, and the result of really bad writing...that started in Fall of Reach ironically...

 

Halo canon isn't Doctor Who or Transformers Canon, you can't pick and choose. Considering the thousands of books and such you're eventually going to run into conflicts. Did you know every short on Legends is canon except Odd one out? Yeah you try figuring that out.

 

It's called the Master Chief collection for a reason, ODST and Wars wasn't included either. That would just be nonsensical. But regardless I never thought Smileys could make someone look so smug. I could've let this whole comment go if you didn't do that. It's the punch you in your smug face type of smug.

[RZIBARA]

Yeah **** a more personal, grittier, and down to earth story about Soldiers in an unwinnable scenario but have to try regardless against a vastly superior foe.

Real Spartans have to be able to win everything through the flimsy justification of luck. I like Chief, but that's always been a load of crap, and the result of really bad writing...that started in Fall of Reach ironically...

 

Halo canon isn't Doctor Who or Transformers Canon, you can't pick and choose. Considering the thousands of books and such you're eventually going to run into conflicts. Did you know every short on Legends is canon except Odd one out? Yeah you try figuring that out.

 

It's called the Master Chief collection for a reason, ODST and Wars wasn't included either. That would just be nonsensical. But regardless I never thought Smileys could make someone look so smug. I could've let this whole comment go if you didn't do that. It's the punch you in your smug face type of smug.

 

Have you read "The Fall of Reach"? I don't think you have, because that novel was far from happy days where spartans won everything. Nearly every Spartan II died in the battle of Reach, it focused on the Spartan II's. It doesn't even make sense that Spartan III's were on the planet. 

 

Again, if you haven't read the novel, don't talk sh*t, because you clearly haven't. The contradicts a lot of what happens in the book. Cortana was already with the Chief, so why and how the hell did Noble team just get her from Halsey? The Pillar of Autumn was already in space during the battle of Reach, how the hell was it at the dry dock's exactly? How the hell was the Master Chief already aboard? Lot's and lot's of plot holes in that game. There is a reason I don't consider that game canon, mainly because IT BROKE the canon.

 

AND YES, THE FALL OF REACH was released after Combat Evolved launched, so there was no reason what soever that Bungie wouldn't have been informed of the events of that novel. 

 

And I don't recall Halo 4 being a story of ass kicking badassery and victory at every turn. None of the MC games were really.

[RZIBARA]

And just an FYI, I had no problem with the concept and idea of Halo Reach either. There is nothing wrong about a story about soldiers fighting against impossible odds, I was actually fairly excited about it. 

 

But the execution was so ****** poor, that when I finished the my playthough, I was angry at how bad it was. About how poorly done the characters were and how I just didnt care for them. About how disappointing the set pieces were. About all the contradictions with the Fall of Reach. The multiplayer was just the nail on the coffin.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Have you read "The Fall of Reach"? I don't think you have, because that novel was far from happy days where spartans won everything. Nearly every Spartan II died in the battle of Reach, it focused on the Spartan II's. It doesn't even make sense that Spartan III's were on the planet. 

 

Again, if you haven't read the novel, don't talk sh*t, because you clearly haven't. The contradicts a lot of what happens in the book. Cortana was already with the Chief, so why and how the hell did Noble team just get her from Halsey? The Pillar of Autumn was already in space during the battle of Reach, how the hell was it at the dry dock's exactly? How the hell was the Master Chief already aboard? Lot's and lot's of plot holes in that game. There is a reason I don't consider that game canon, mainly because IT BROKE the canon.

I have Fall of Reach here somewhere. Not the biggest fan of it mostly because if I wanted to read Enders Game I would. Also I read it close to 5 years ago, so give me a break.

Games take precedence in canon over the books. If that's too much for you too handle I don't know what to say, other than continue living in your fantasy world, your head might explode otherwise. Also stay away from comics if Retcons annoy you this much.

Anyway, my point had more to do with the series writing as a whole because Chief survives alot of things off the logic of sugar plum fairy kisses. I brought FoR in this regard because it gave the reason of "Oh Johns lucky". Him surviving Reach came at having Linda getting shot up, but still it's a little annoying.

4s only advancement was having him lose someone of importance to him, and it actually affecting him. He never mentions his squad in the games.

 

Also learn to edit your posts. Nobody likes a spammer.

[RZIBARA]

I have Fall of Reach here somewhere. Not the biggest fan of it mostly because if I wanted to read Enders Game I would. Also I read it close to 5 years ago, so give me a break.

Games take precedence in canon over the books. If that's too much for you too handle I don't know what to say, other than continue living in your fantasy world, your head might explode otherwise. Also stay away from comics if Retcons annoy you this much.

Anyway, my point had more to do with the series writing as a whole because Chief survives alot of things off the logic of sugar plum fairy kisses. I brought FoR in this regard because it gave the reason of "Oh Johns lucky". Him surviving Reach came at having Linda getting shot up, but still it's a little annoying.

4s only advancement was having him lose someone of importance to him, and it actually affecting him. He never mentions his squad in the games.

 

Also learn to edit your posts. Nobody likes a spammer.

 

Given that it's a prequel, and that 343 is most likely not going back to the past, I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to consider Reach non-canon. If you enjoyed that mess of a game, than good for you. But in no way will I ever consider that game part of the main story line. Ever. 

 

And are you really trying to imply that in the real story arc, he never had a squad? Because as I recall, Kelly and Fred were both present in the FUD live action series. You are making me laugh too hard right now.

[RZIBARA]

Any who, anyone interested in the MCC panel today at PAX Prime, it will be starting in 1 hour and 20 minutes from now (11am PST, 3pm Altlantic, 2pm EST).

 

Here is the link to the broadcast