Is butthurt your usual reaction to hearing things you don't like? Because it certainly seems like it.
It's "butthurt" to post a gif in response to a ridiculous assertion? Mkay, whatever you say...
When you do it as often as you do it, without doing anything to rebuff that "ridiculous" assertion? Yes, yes it is.
Also kind of ironic coming from the guy who gets offended by every little criticism of Liara or her species.
You also need to brush off the whole "offended" term. Because you're seeing things that aren't there.
When you do it as often as you do it, without doing anything to rebuff that "ridiculous" assertion? Yes, yes it is.
You also need to brush off the whole "offended" term. Because you're seeing things that aren't there.
It's never shown, but it's also not unreasonable to assume that Liara learned a lot in her time aboard the Normandy.
Its hard to learn much of anything when she is rescued after Virmire and a short time later you're back at the Citadel defeating Sovereign. In that case she didn't learn much of anything especailly since no one on the ship moves around to talk with anyone. And my femshep has no reason to teach her anything or cares to teach her anything
Its hard to learn much of anything when she is rescued after Virmire and a short time later you're back at the Citadel defeating Sovereign. In that case she didn't learn much of anything especailly since no one on the ship moves around to talk with anyone. And my femshep has no reason to teach her anything or cares to teach her anything
And in that case you never took her on a mission so her combat ability is a moot point, isn't it.
And in that case you never took her on a mission so her combat ability is a moot point, isn't it.
That also applies if you rescue her earlier in the game. Shepard is more concerned stopping Saren instead of wasting time with T'soni. Even if Shepard shows her some stuff it doesn't mean she is fit for combat.
"The Asari are running the galaxy" I'm sorry, but that is just too silly to take seriously. All the Asari have is economic power, their military can't hold up with the Turians' and their scientists can't hold up with the Salarians'. No council race has any power over the others, not even your precious Asari, mate.
You mean turians, who themselves admit that asari are the finest warriors in the galaxy, good thing there's so few of them?
Besides, of course you wouldn't know, it's not like they are despotic overlords. They be too sneaky for that... mate.
Sure seems like it though.
Oh yeah, because anytime anybody says something good about asari or Liara they are fanboys, incapable of thinking for themselves, right?
That also applies if you rescue her earlier in the game. Shepard is more concerned stopping Saren instead of wasting time with T'soni. Even if Shepard shows her some stuff it doesn't mean she is fit for combat.
Its hard to learn much of anything when she is rescued after Virmire and a short time later you're back at the Citadel defeating Sovereign. In that case she didn't learn much of anything especailly since no one on the ship moves around to talk with anyone. And my femshep has no reason to teach her anything or cares to teach her anything
Headcanon to the max. You know Therum is a plot mission, right? Whether you like it or not, Liara is within the interests of Shepard as a part of stopping Saren.
You know she can be resued after Virmire, right? She only provides Ilos thats all through the meld thing. Whether you like it or not, there is not any amount of time after that for her to be trained in anything related to combat.
Just because they don't move on the ship when you're looking at them doesn't mean they don't when you're not looking. It's obvious from the interactions between squadmates in ME2/ME3 that they at least talk to each other, a lot, in between missions (or even during).
What interactions in ME2. You bring Garrus to Illium and he and T'soni don't even say hi.
You know she can be resued after Virmire, right? She only provides Ilos thats all through the meld thing. Whether you like it or not, there is not any amount of time after that for her to be trained in anything related to combat.
)What interactions in ME2. You bring Garrus to Illium and he and T'soni don't even say hi.
You know what I believe in the message of the Asari race? It might sound a bit offensive, but this is the conclusion I take from the games: The Asari had everything to be the greatest race in the galaxy, the were engineering by the Protheans, have a planet rich with the most precious element in the galaxy and had access to a Prothean data chace that gave them a huge technogical edge over the other races. And why they are not? Because they are a race of females only.
I don't understand how we got into a debate over Liara's combat usefulness? Just cause you're not trained in assault rifles, doesn't mean you're incompetent in combat?
I don't remember the wording, but upon meeting Liara, she says she often explores digsites alone because she never encountered anything "that her biotics couldn't handle". This means she's obviously ran into hostiles that she dealt with through biotics. Are you guys saying she never brought a firearm with her during any of her expeditions, and therefore knows squat about using a pistol?
In the elevator, Garrus tells Liara he's impressed with her biotics, to which Liara responds with the fact that not all asari actively train their biotics. This obviously means Liara has spent time on her biotics for combat usefulness.
Being over 100 years old, she's probably spent more time training them than Adept Shepard has.
You know what I believe in the message of the Asari race? It might sound a bit offensive, but this is the conclusion I take from the games: The Asari had everything to be the greatest race in the galaxy, the were engineering by the Protheans, have a planet rich with the most precious element in the galaxy and had access to a Prothean data chace that gave them a huge technogical edge over the other races. And why there are not? Because they are a race of females only.
Err I doubt Bioware created the Asari with that message in mind lol. It has been stated by Bioware that the female gender thing was originally for their purpose of creating a race of beautiful alien women.
Why are you saying they don't have a huge technological edge over other races? It has been implied throughout the game that the asari possess that advantage, by being the first species to discover the Citadel. The Codex itself says the asari serve as the mediators and centrists of the Council, and that they spread their influence through "cultural domination" and "intellectual superiority" (probably due to their philosophical point of views from having such a long life span). And then of course there's that moment in Priority: Thessia when you realize that the asari experienced huge technological breakthroughs on a regular basis because of Prothean influence.
Nothing in the game suggested the asari were inherently insufficient despite their advantages. Bioware clearly had a soft spot for the asari by making them inherently "superior". The asari's downfall was from the mistake of keeping Prothean secrets to themselves. That's a mistake any powerful and prideful civilization has the potential to make.
You know what I believe in the message of the Asari race? It might sound a bit offensive, but this is the conclusion I take from the games: .... And why they are not? Because they are a race of females only.
About the Asari, the fact that they love to be strippers doesn't help. I found them to be a very mediocre, they were engineering by the protheans to be great and used their knowledge to have a technological advantage over the other races and still they don't have accomplished much.
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I don't hate her, But she's not my favorite either. She's interesting, But not as interesting as Miranda, Of course.
About the Asari, the fact that they love to be strippers doesn't help.
Love to be strippers? Errr, there is a huge difference between pole dancing/club dancing and stripping. We don't see any stripping in ME.
The fact that the Asari are the only pole dancers/club dancers in the galaxy doesn't degrade them. First of all, we ourselves don't have a right to judge human men/women who take up club dancing/stripping, or making porn, or any of that. Stripping doesnt equal bimbo wh*re. It is simply taking part in an extremely lucrative industry. Pole dancing is also a legitimate art form. Look it up on YouTube.
Second of all...why not? Can you imagine turians and salarians dancing to be.. aesthetically pleasing? I'd imagine that the Asari, aside from humans, are probably the only ones in the galaxy to have made dancing, as we know it, a legitimate art form, and the only reason we see them club dancing is because for some reason our Shepards are constantly finding themselves at nightclubs, rather than a theater house or a performing arts center.
What those Asari dancers are doing is no different from all the human men/women who love dancing and are comfortable in their skin that find that they can make incredibly fast/easy money by taking up club dancing. Doesn't make humanity worthless lol. Our culture is not one dimensional. Wait a few more years in ME, there are probably going to be just as many human dancers at Afterlife/Purgatory/Chora's Den as there are asari dancers.
When is that said?You mean turians, who themselves admit that asari are the finest warriors in the galaxy, good thing there's so few of them?
Besides, of course you wouldn't know, it's not like they are despotic overlords. They be too sneaky for that... mate.
No, now you're exaggerating. Fanboys are the ones who can not accept or fathon that their favorite race has even the smallest flaws. There's a lot of Asari fanboys...Oh yeah, because anytime anybody says something good about asari or Liara they are fanboys, incapable of thinking for themselves, right?
*cough* Quarians *cough*I'd imagine that the Asari, aside from humans, are probably the only ones in the galaxy to have made dancing, as we know it, a legitimate art form
*cough* Quarians *cough*
I'm sure the drell can be good at it, too. I don't know if those quarian envirosuits make very good dancing costumes though lol. Regardless, it's probably the asari that have learned to 'capitalize' their dancing the most 
I love Liara. I'm a guy and I totally fell for the whole damsel in a distress thing in ME1.And I remained loyal to her in all three installments although I did attempt to romance Samara with no success 
I'm sure the drell can be good at it, too. I don't know if those quarian envirosuits make very good dancing costumes though lol. Regardless, it's probably the asari that have learned to 'capitalize' their dancing the most
A stable democracy for centuries, wealthy colonies, the largest single economy in the galaxy, remarkably low incidence of war, disease, violent crime or famine, an admired culture and they "uplifted" the elcor...and they didn't accomlished much? High standards...
This is stuff you copy from the codex and post here. This is, in a way, irrelevant. What truly matters for me is what we see in the game, and the truth is that in all three Mass Effect I saw one or two Asari there were worth something. They come up as vain with not capacity to stand up to themselves. Pretty, but with no substance.
This is stuff you copy from the codex and post here. This is, in a way, irrelevant. What truly matters for me is what we see in the game, and the truth is that in all three Mass Effect I saw one or two Asari there were worth something. They come up as vain with not capacity to stand up to themselves. Pretty, but with no substance.
I don't know if I agree with you're assertion that Asari are just pretty with no substance. There are many examples of strong intelligent and admirable asari in ME for example Aria, Samara and Liara to name but a few.
This is stuff you copy from the codex and post here. This is, in a way, irrelevant. What truly matters for me is what we see in the game, and the truth is that in all three Mass Effect I saw one or two Asari there were worth something. They come up as vain with not capacity to stand up to themselves. Pretty, but with no substance.
If I used your point of view, I would see the krogan as nothing more than bloodthirsty mooks, turians as stiff cops, and salarians as spineless bookworms. To the galaxy, humans are selfish warmongers.
Bioware shouldn't need to hold your hand in guiding you how you must perceive these races and showing you that those kind of stereotypes are ultimately unfair/bigoted/short-sighted. You should really be able to just look at the big picture for yourself.
I did attempt to romance Samara with no success
Samara has a short romance scene in the citadel DLC 
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