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Do you think Connor, Earl Eamon, and Bann Teagan will be connected?

 

Like, did Connor himself help the mages take over the castle?


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Umm, explain further.



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Depends. If he returned to Radcliffe after his Mage training. Intact it will have to deep d on his affiliations during Inquisition.

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Do you think Connor, Earl Eamon, and Bann Teagan will be connected?

 

They're already related, so...?



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Earl Eamon is the evil twin right?


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Red Cliffe just can't catch a break when it comes to mages, demons and the undead!

 

Since Connor can be killed, I doubt he played a role in this. Maybe they aren't there? Teagan is usually traveling as an ambassador to different countries. Eamon may be in Denerim. Either way, their forces were weakened due to the previous civil war, undead invasion and the Blight. The Veil is probably thinned in Redcliffe due to the events in DAO which may be the reason why those Mages went there?


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Red Cliffe just can't catch a break when it comes to mages, demons and the undead!

 

Since Connor can be killed, I doubt he played a role in this. Maybe they aren't there? Teagan is usually traveling as an ambassador to different countries. Eamon may be in Denerim. Either way, their forces were weakened due to the previous civil war, undead invasion and the Blight. The Veil is probably thinned in Redcliffe due to the events in DAO which may be the reason why those Mages went there?

Why don't they just make a new Earl for crying out loud?  Make Lloyd, Bella or Murdock Earl, anyone. These guys don't learn.



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Red Cliffe just can't catch a break when it comes to mages, demons and the undead!

 

Since Connor can be killed, I doubt he played a role in this. Maybe they aren't there? Teagan is usually traveling as an ambassador to different countries. Eamon may be in Denerim. Either way, their forces were weakened due to the previous civil war, undead invasion and the Blight. The Veil is probably thinned in Redcliffe due to the events in DAO which may be the reason why those Mages went there?

 

There is a precedent in BioWare games (namely Mass Effect) where if a potential returning character is dead, they are replaced with a substitute. 

 

Example (ME Spoilers):

 

Spoiler

 

So Connor being dead in some playthroughs doesn't necessitate him being absent from future Dragon Age games. The same can be applied to any other character.

 

In fact, Alistair has been confirmed to be reappearing in Dragon Age: Inquisition. Unless they plan to retcon or change the circumstances of his death if he did the ultimate sacrifice (execution can easily be explained as you don't see it happening yourself), it is plausible that he is replaced by someone else. It could be an unknown or someone familiar.

 

Given that Teagan took him back to Redcliffe if you found him in the bar in Kirkwall, I imagine there is a scenario where he is there during the attacks.



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Earl Eamon is the evil twin right?

 

You're thinking "Earl Evil." 

 

Earl Eamon is Arl Eamon's homeless great uncle with the head lice. 


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No Connor. But before the Inquisitor reaches Redcliffe Castle he and the party runs into a intrepid rogue cutting down demons left and right with a green blade of ancient elven make. Impressed with the young man's skill the Inquisitor makes his way to the lad to exchange a few words before a walking dead tries to flank our hero with a greatsword. Before the Inquisitor can unsheathe his weapon to defend himself a dagger flies past, the breeze of the blade shearing his face and sinking into the skull of the possessed corpse.

 

"What is your name, boy?"

 

"It's Bevin."


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I wonder if we'll meet Demon Connor.



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"What is your name, boy?"

 

"It's Bevin."

 

 

 

Only if he's clad in wooden armor fashioned from his favorite closet.


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No Connor. But before the Inquisitor reaches Redcliffe Castle he and the party runs into a intrepid rogue cutting down demons left and right with a green blade of ancient elven make. Impressed with the young man's skill the Inquisitor makes his way to the lad to exchange a few words before a walking dead tries to flank our hero with a greatsword. Before the Inquisitor can unsheathe his weapon to defend himself a dagger flies past, the breeze of the blade shearing his face and sinking into the skull of the possessed corpse.

 

"What is your name, boy?"

 

"It's Bevin."

you saucy bastard, you,... :D



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Only if he's clad in wooden armor fashioned from his favorite closet.

 

A legendary hero once told him to be brave after wielding his grandfather's in defense of Redcliffe. Hiding from undead has been in his rear view ever since.


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There is a precedent in BioWare games (namely Mass Effect) where if a potential returning character is dead, they are replaced with a substitute. 

 

Example (ME Spoilers):

 

Spoiler

 

So Connor being dead in some playthroughs doesn't necessitate him being absent from future Dragon Age games. The same can be applied to any other character.

 

In fact, Alistair has been confirmed to be reappearing in Dragon Age: Inquisition. Unless they plan to retcon or change the circumstances of his death if he did the ultimate sacrifice (execution can easily be explained as you don't see it happening yourself), it is plausible that he is replaced by someone else. It could be an unknown or someone familiar.

 

Given that Teagan took him back to Redcliffe if you found him in the bar in Kirkwall, I imagine there is a scenario where he is there during the attacks.

Not only that but there are other precedents, in BioWare games, in DA games, magic and certain plot lines have a way of...working themselves out... no matter what the player chooses.  Like in the case of Connor we could see a resusitated Connor, a version of Connor as a Fade Spirit, or all sorts of shenanagans given the obvious magic going on in the rest of the world of Thedas involved with the Breach. 



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He gets sent to the circle if he lives, we don't know of he'd run home when everything went to pot, that would be the first place anyone would look for him, plus he may have a lower or friends from his 10 years in the circle that he wants to stick with

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If Connor dies Eamon and Isolde have a daughter (Isolde dies giving birth) and Eamon names her Rowan after his sister. She is a mage like Connor, but unlike him is sent to the Circle as soon as her magic is discovered. I got this epilogue once so there's BioWare's replacement for Connor.


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He gets sent to the circle if he lives, we don't know of he'd run home when everything went to pot, that would be the first place anyone would look for him, plus he may have a lower or friends from his 10 years in the circle that he wants to stick with

Or those friends came with him to the safety of his father's castle.



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This is just a bad theory OP. The veil would probably be absurdly thin from what Connor did during DAO so naturally it's going to tear there. Simple.

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I don't think Connor has anything to do with it, I don't think he's even present at Red Cliffe when the events go down because;

 

1) If Connor is spared in Origins, it says in the epilogue Eamon sends him to the Circle. Inquisition takes place 7-8 years after Origins, he's already a young adult and definitely within the Fereldan circle by this time, or elsewhere (maybe he's in Tevinter like the Epilogue said)

 

2) He is dead, if you killed him in Origins.

 

3) He is possessed, if you made a deal with the desire demon possessing him in the Fade.

 

It's possible that upon the uprising of the Circles of Magi, Connor fled back to his home in Red Cliffe and had something to do with the events that go down during Inquisition...either he helps or worsens the situation. I don't know, but it's possible.

 

Let it be noted that Bioware considers Connor's fate a rather integral story arc, as the decision was acknowledged when importing to Dragon Age 2


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Red Cliffe just can't catch a break when it comes to mages, demons and the undead!

 

Since Connor can be killed, I doubt he played a role in this. Maybe they aren't there? Teagan is usually traveling as an ambassador to different countries. Eamon may be in Denerim. Either way, their forces were weakened due to the previous civil war, undead invasion and the Blight. The Veil is probably thinned in Redcliffe due to the events in DAO which may be the reason why those Mages went there?

But you're forgetting that in one ending Redcliffe would become a city to rival Denerim and I pretty sure their forces are replenished.



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I don't think Connor has anything to do with it, I don't think he's even present at Red Cliffe when the events go down because;

 

1) If Connor is spared in Origins, it says in the epilogue Eamon sends him to the Circle. Inquisition takes place 7-8 years after Origins, he's already a young adult and definitely within the Fereldan circle by this time, or elsewhere (maybe he's in Tevinter like the Epilogue said)

 

2) He is dead, if you killed him in Origins.

 

3) He is possessed, if you made a deal with the desire demon possessing him in the Fade.

 

It's possible that upon the uprising of the Circles of Magi, Connor fled back to his home in Red Cliffe and had something to do with the events that go down during Inquisition...either he helps or worsens the situation. I don't know, but it's possible.

 

Let it be noted that Bioware considers Connor's fate a rather integral story arc, as the decision was acknowledged when importing to Dragon Age 2

It's more 9 years with Origins by itself and 7 years with Witch Hunt. Dragon Age Inquisition takes place in the year of Dragon 9:40. Connor is definitely a young adult mage if still alive. He's probably with the mages fighting the templars or ruling over a village if possessed. 


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It's more 8 years with Origins by itself and 6 years with Witch Hunt. Dragon Age Inquisition takes place in the year of Dragon 9:40. Connor is definitely a young adult mage if still alive. He's probably with the mages fighting the templars or ruling over a village if possessed. 

Or dead if possessed. 



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Or just hiding. Or in Tevinter, why leave a country he's reasonably safe in for a place that has demons falling out of te sky?

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It's more 8 years with Origins by itself and 6 years with Witch Hunt. Dragon Age Inquisition takes place in the year of Dragon 9:40. Connor is definitely a young adult mage if still alive. He's probably with the mages fighting the templars or ruling over a village if possessed. 

 

Yes, that is what I said.

 

Or just hiding. Or in Tevinter, why leave a country he's reasonably safe in for a place that has demons falling out of te sky?

 

We know factions from Tevinter are central antagonists to the Inquisition. Imagine Connor ends up an enemy or ally in these circumstances?


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