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[Kabooooom]

Harvesting an entire species on a galactic scale is a tall order. It's nearly impossible, unless you had something like the relay network which gave the Reapers a massive advantage. And it still took them centuries to complete the cycle during the Prothean's time.

But, as we have seen, the galaxy is a big place - and at least two species have attempted to hide from the Reapers and succeeded in doing so: the Protheans and the Leviathans. They adopted different strategies: the Leviathans, by virtue of their biology, are capable of living deep underwater on otherwise uninhabited garden worlds. Thus, they were easily overlooked. The Protheans independently attempted cryogenic stasis twice, and succeeded both times.

So, how would you hide from the Reapers?

My personal favorite idea would be to go off the relay network. Vast swaths of the galaxy are not connected directly or indirectly by relays. Less than 1% of the galaxy has been explored, and realistically the relay network cannot cover much more than that anyways (that is 3 billion stars. Even that seems unreasonable to me).

So, we know there are regions of space that are separated by thousands of light years between relays- as mentioned several times in the story, one such time being the university attempting to plot a course to Ilos, another being the time it took the Reapers to reach the closest relay to the Alpha Relay. So, go off the network. Vanish entirely.

It is literally impossible for the Reapers to meticulously search all 300 billion star systems in the Milky Way (even excluding those too close to the galactic core). The Quarians and the Geth are each particularly suited for this method of evading the Reapers.

[KaiserShep]

I'd do like those people from BSG and go feral on some garden world. The reapers would never find Riddick.

[Fixers0]

I would build an underground bunker on a planet inhabited by primitive sapient lifeforms and then go into stasis.

[KaiserShep]

Considering how badly the stasis plan goes for just about everyone that's tried it, I wouldn't recommend it myself.

[Kabooooom]

I would build an underground bunker on a planet inhabited by primitive sapient lifeforms and then go into stasis.

This idea is actually a pretty good one. An underground cryo bunker on a world inhabited by Pre-space flight civilization is particularly clever. I wouldn't pick Parnack or anything, but it's a good idea.

[Kabooooom]

Considering how badly the stasis plan goes for just about everyone that's tried it, I wouldn't recommend it myself.

Well, it went badly for the Protheans because in one situation the Reapers were actively blowing their bunker to hell, and in the other their power supply effectively ran out. The plan was hastily put together as a last-ditch effort for survival. If done right, I could see it working perfectly.

[themikefest]

After a part of the planet has been harvested, I would go to that area and dig a bunker for myself or get to one if its in the area and chill out. But knowing me, I would just go to Fort Bragg and take an M1A2 battle tank and fire at the giant walking hands till I was killed.

[Vegeta 77]

No point just going to fight.

[Ryriena]

Same here rather die fighting than hiding like a coward to be harvested by those things. I'd join the Resistance movement just so I could fight these things invading my home.

[NeroonWilliams]

The Quarians are most definitely NOT equipped to go "off the grid" like you propose.

 

Their civilization is hanging by a thread as it is, and that is with constant contact with other civilizations to get raw materials to keep their ships up and running.  That means they would need to find a planet they could settle rather quickly.  The chirality of their DNA seems to be an oddity rather than a commonality in the galaxy, further reducing the number of places they might settle.

 

The Geth might be closer, but their construction of the facility to house their entire collective looks like it might be planetbound for a reason: energy consumption.  That makes them relatively LESS able to make the move "off the grid", as their very physiology NEEDS the grid in order to sustain itself.

 

Probably the best way to do it, would be to find a planet that is already host to a stone age level civilization, and start a tiny colony.  We're talking The Matrix's refounding of Zion levels of tiny with a bare minimum of males and females, AND a bare minimum of technology constructed.  Wait at least 3 generations before even THINKING about rebuilding the technology.  That means the people selected would have to be well versed in practical extraction of resources and have actual hardcopy PRINTED material to inform them of what they were striving for.  Tenuous perhaps, but probably the most effective way of keeping below the radar of the Reapers.

[KaiserShep]

Fighting what? Fighting husks and other assorted zombies doesn't mean much if the reapers themselves can't be wiped out.

[Kabooooom]

Cowards! I rather die free above ground fighting than living in fear and hiding. You can run, You can hide, but you cant escape death. Its something you have to accept.

There's a difference between fighting to the death when death is otherwise certain, and running to fight another day. The latter is tactical, and fighting when you have a chance to regroup later and potentially win a battle is, quite frankly, idiotic - and human history is full of examples where fools did exactly that.

[Excella Gionne]

They'll never find me under these bushes...

[CynicalShep]

I would hide in my batcave, with teh womyn. Either that or pump myself full of stuff humans shouldn't really be consuming, strap about a hundred pounds of TNT on me, arm myself to the teeth and go out in a blaze of glory and gore surrounded by all sorts of nasty reaper thralls.

[Kabooooom]

The Quarians are most definitely NOT equipped to go "off the grid" like you propose.

Their civilization is hanging by a thread as it is, and that is with constant contact with other civilizations to get raw materials to keep their ships up and running. That means they would need to find a planet they could settle rather quickly. The chirality of their DNA seems to be an oddity rather than a commonality in the galaxy, further reducing the number of places they might settle.

The Geth might be closer, but their construction of the facility to house their entire collective looks like it might be planetbound for a reason: energy consumption. That makes them relatively LESS able to make the move "off the grid", as their very physiology NEEDS the grid in order to sustain itself.

Probably the best way to do it, would be to find a planet that is already host to a stone age level civilization, and start a tiny colony. We're talking The Matrix's refounding of Zion levels of tiny with a bare minimum of males and females, AND a bare minimum of technology constructed. Wait at least 3 generations before even THINKING about rebuilding the technology. That means the people selected would have to be well versed in practical extraction of resources and have actual hardcopy PRINTED material to inform them of what they were striving for. Tenuous perhaps, but probably the most effective way of keeping below the radar of the Reapers.

The Migrant Fleet is largely autonomous, and they are the ONLY fleet that could ever survive off the grid for a prolonged period of time. No other Citadel race could even think of doing that- they simply lack the infrastructure. But, you are correct that they are less suited than the Geth. They wouldn't be able to survive indefinitely like the Geth could. They would need to find a planet to settle, and fairly quickly.

The Geth, though, can survive almost anywhere. I'm not sure why you think that the Geth "require" interaction with the relay network. They don't. Like at all. And the story points this out pretty clearly. They DO need planetary resources, yes, but such planets and such resources are literally ubiquitous. They don't need garden worlds. They don't require space stations with life support. They can reproduce mobile units on a massive scale.

And they did not build a facility to "house their consciousness" planetside - I'm not sure where you got that from. The Dyson Sphere was entirely composed of orbital structures around the star. They had facilities on Rannoch, including server hubs that held Geth software minds, but they were not associated with their Dyson Sphere plan. Realistically, they could find a suitable star system elsewhere and move forward with their plan. Doing it around Rannoch was stupid anyways, as they were fully aware of the coming invasion.

[fhs33721]

The real me?

I'd probably just jump of a high building or something. I'm used to modern day luxuries like: Getting almost everything I need from the supermarket around the corner, daily showers, functional electricity infastructure and stable internet connection.

I wouldn't survive three days in an Reaper invasion and I'd seriously rather kill myself than be liquidized in some assessment center from hell or ending up as one of a few survivors in some postapocalyptic wasteland.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I'd build a tree house with a pirate flag and write 'no men allowed'. 

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Wear my husk costume and run around slapping folks. I'll fit right in.

[Kabooooom]

@Kabooooom So you rather run away and hide? Whose to say you survive stasis! Or that you wont wake up during the extermination of the next cycle or something happened to your stasis pod! What your saying is a simple contradiction. Fighting is fighting. Yes, I agree it'll be foolish running in guns blazing but it would be stupid to turn our backs on our enemies shooting at us an human history shows exactly that too. However, we are talking about "Reapers." Beings made to simply exterminate all advanced life every 50,000 years. If we don't deal with them now whose to say the future can succeed. If it weren't for other previous cycle species fighting there would probably be no crucible. If people stopped fighting and hid like cowards I guarantee you there would be no future for you to hide in.

You seemed to have monumentally missed the point of this thread, so allow me to explain. The discussion is NOT whether running or fighting is preferable, it is not which one I would rather personally support or which one is more moral- the ONLY point of the discussion was to brainstorm ideas on how to avoid the Reapers. Yay for reading comprehension.

Also, history hasn't shown "exactly that". Quite the opposite, really. The concept of living to fight another day exists for a reason, especially when faced with overwhelming odds from a superior militaristic force. The only way you win wars where you don't have military superiority is by fighting smart, not stupid.

[Craig Graff]

Stay on topic. If you wish to discuss soccer, do it in the off topic forum.

[Mcfly616]

Back on topic though: Carbonite. (just cuz)

[justafan]

I wrote a rather lengthy reply to the topic, then I realized that this thread was about the World Cup.  I then had a long reflection on my priorities when I realized I know way more about the fictional Mass Effect universe then I do about the actual sport of football/soccer.