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[LaughingBanana]

 

OP wasn't asking for tips on how to enjoy the game to its fullest. He was asking for advice on how to become a Gold-level player.

 

And please don't think I'm stupid enough to bite into your false dilemmas. Playing with a Jugg may not get him used to the pacing, intensity and spawns and playing a no-fitness Drell doesn't generally lead to frustation and quitting.

 

That said, if the OP was facing a choice of A) only using a Jugg for a month, or only using a no-fitness Drell for a month, I guarantee you that by choosing B he'd be a better player than if he chose A. And that was what he was asking for: how to become a better player.

 

I think it would be better if we just let the OP play with the kits that he's most comfortable with. Personally, I don't understand why people abhor others who use characters like AIU, Juggernaut, or TGI, as if those who performed good with these kits are "beneath" those who play with "proper" classes... Ah, just let people enjoy what they enjoy.

[LemurFromTheId]

This is true. Although he'd have to be sentenced to death later, for using a no fitness Drell

 

True, but I could make an exception for a sniper drellfiltrator/infidrell/defibrillator.

[LemurFromTheId]

I think it would be better if we just let the OP play with the kits that he's most comfortable with. Personally, I don't understand why people abhor others who use characters like AIU, Juggernaut, or TGI, as if those who performed good with these kits are "beneath" those who play with "proper" classes... Ah, just let people enjoy what they enjoy.

 

*sigh*

 

OP is free to play whatever kits he wants to, and I trust he doesn't need us to tell him how he should enjoy the game. That's not the point.

 

I repeat: he was asking for advice on how to become a Gold-level player. I gave mine. And I'm sorry to say this, but playing on easy-mode kits like TGI or AIU simply isn't an effective way to learn to play well. They allow too many mistakes, which means you're never forced to get rid of bad habits such as staying exposed to enemy fire.

[Excella Gionne]

Go through the rite of passage before proceeding to gold...

[LaughingBanana]

*sigh*

 

OP is free to play whatever kits he wants to, and I trust he doesn't need us to tell him how he should enjoy the game. That's not the point.

 

I repeat: he was asking for advice on how to become a Gold-level player. I gave mine. And I'm sorry to say this, but playing on easy-mode kits like TGI or AIU simply isn't an effective way to learn to play well. They allow too many mistakes, which means you're never forced to get rid of bad habits such as staying exposed to enemy fire.

 

Fair enough.

 

I merely dislike the notion that those that use characters such as Jugs or AIU or TGI are to be looked down upon, but that is just my personal opinion.

[Malanek]

 

I repeat: he was asking for advice on how to become a Gold-level player. 

I got the impression he was asking for advice on how to move to gold to get credits immediately without being a drag on his team. It's true, you will learn concepts from playing as a Drell that you won't as a jug. You will also deal a lot more damage and get higher on the scoreboard. But if you don't know what you are doing you will be more of a drag on your team.

[Koenig888]

Always equip the Geth Scanner.  The increased situational awareness will keep you alive longer.  The tanky kits have better survivability so start with those.  You should eventually progress to the squishy kits with Cyclonics and finally squishy kits without Cyclonics.

 

Edit:  if it is credits you are looking for,  join the PC master race.  I know a friend of a friend of a friend who can point you in the right direction.

[Malanek]

Having a look at you manifest I think you really should have been buying more Veteran packs and fewer Reserve packs. The Krogan Sentinel is a good choice to start gold with. Quite resilient and has two good powers that will make up for weak weapons, although watch out for phantoms. I would go with your Pirahna II with incendiary ammo at this stage although I think an Eviscerator X would be better. 

[q5tyhj]

Can you solo Silver? If yes, then you are ready for Gold. 

[LaughingBanana]

Can you solo Silver? If yes, then you are ready for Gold. 

 

I can't quite solo Silver but I have finished many Gold games with extractions already

 

Or maybe I can but I don't want to be bothered with it yet, hahaha.

[q5tyhj]

I can't quite solo Silver but I have finished many Gold games with extractions already

 

Or maybe I can but I don't want to be bothered with it yet, hahaha.

Sure- you can play and do fine on Gold even if you cannot solo Silver, but if can solo Silver then you're definitely ready for Gold. This is just a good general rule that I've read numerous places (and it goes for other difficulties, i.e. if you can solo Gold you'll do just fine on Platinum). 

[TheShadyEngineer]

 

1) OP wasn't asking for tips on how to enjoy the game to its fullest. He was asking for advice on how to become a Gold-level player.

 

2) And please don't think I'm stupid enough to bite into your false dilemmas. Playing with a Jugg may not get him used to the pacing, intensity and spawns and playing a no-fitness Drell doesn't generally lead to frustation and quitting.

 

3) That said, if the OP was facing a choice of A) only using a Jugg for a month, or only using a no-fitness Drell for a month, I guarantee you that by choosing B he'd be a better player than if he chose A.

 

4) And that was what he was asking for: how to become a better player.

1) OP was asking for tips on how to TRANSITION to gold, as in you know, how to be comfortable with playing gold regularly without being a burden on the team. Using something that you're comfortable with to transition regardless of whether or not it is a "crutch" to learn the ropes of the new difficulty before switching to more "advanced" kits and tactics is IMO a much better idea than trying an entirely different playstyle on a difficulty never tried before. If OP had asked how to be a better player, I'd have been on the same team as you, but he didn't.

 

2) I never used the word "generally" and it wasn't a dilemma but more of an assumption based on what OP said. Juggy and Drell are not important, they're X and Y- X being a kit that you're comfortable with and know how it works and Y being a kit that is "better" in terms of what can be done with it but having no idea how to play it. Juggy and Drell are just two extreme examples of that.

 

3) Why, because you said so?

 

4) See 1.

[Turian Master Race]

Bleh. I'm not telling him to avoid Reegar and AIU etc. because I dislike those things (which I do), but because they actually hold your development back. By always using Acolyte to deal with Phantoms you'll never learn to deal with them using ordinary weapons and headshots. By using no-fitness kits can be painful at first, but it quickly teaches you to avoid being exposed to fire - unlike always playing a Juggernaut.

 

If you disagree with that advice, I'd appreciate it if you'd be more specific on what and why.

 

You are advising the OP to learn the hardest way, which may not be the fastest. Sure if he learns it he will be ready with other kits as well, but this may not be the best way to learn.

 

Also, I find BSN's elite's aversion to certain weapons is a bit silly. What makes you into a good player is not playing this or that weapon but whether you are open minded and willing to learn.

 

To answer the OP IMO the best way is to get friends and ask them show kits and loadouts and learn how they move on the map.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

The adivce you read about eight out of ten times is incorrect. The rule of thumb is four out of five.

4 + 4 = 8
5 + 5 = 10

Did you mean "nine out of ten"?

[DemiserofD]

4 + 4 = 8
5 + 5 = 10

Did you mean "nine out of ten"?

 

I just assumed he was being sarcastic. Maybe I give people on the internet too much credit.

OP, for me the best way to go to gold is to play with the really lightweight classes on silver, first. IE, a drell of any kind, no fitness infiltrators, melee classes, etc. Doing that, you'll quickly learn how to avoid fire and use RHA, but you'll have some leeway to work your way up.

Then, once you get really good with those classes, you just use them on gold. Honestly, if you get good situational awareness, playing as a class with low(sub 1000) shields plays almost exactly the same regardless of whether you're playing silver or platinum. Gotta avoid being shot, that's about it.

 

Save the tanky kits for fun relaxation games, as the tankier you are, the stupider you can act, and this will actually make you a worse player. I know that if I play as a krogan for very long, I end up dying more and more as the day goes on, compared to playing as a drell or an N7 shadow or something where I die progressively less and less.

 

Also, anyone saying TGI and AIU are 'the' overpowered classes have clearly never played as a drell assassin. I normally score roughly even with other players on gold, even with those classes, but hosting with a drellsassin with a Kishock got me something like 150000 points over the next closest competitor. Seriously, it's ridiculous. 

[robarcool]

I would have added you if you were on pc, but alas!

[q5tyhj]

You are advising the OP to learn the hardest way, which may not be the fastest. Sure if he learns it he will be ready with other kits as well, but this may not be the best way to learn.

 

Also, I find BSN's elite's aversion to certain weapons is a bit silly. What makes you into a good player is not playing this or that weapon but whether you are open minded and willing to learn.

 

To answer the OP IMO the best way is to get friends and ask them show kits and loadouts and learn how they move on the map.

 

Word. Blowing this elitist hot air about what kits or weapons are off-limits or dishonorable or whatever towards newer players trying to transition to higher difficulties is just silly. If anyone should use "crutch" kits or weapons, its newer players trying to move up. Better to branch out to the kits with a steeper learning curve (the "glass canons" and whatnot) once you're comfortable with the difficulty level. 

[the_last_krogan]

golds are a piece of p!ss bro

all you need is the right attitude 

just get out there and get stuck into them son

[TopTrog]

Here´s what worked for me. Take your best characters and weapon combos first (= the ones you like best and are most comfortable playing). Biggest difference to Silver imo is that mooks are much more dangerous on Gold, so concentrate on them first and always be aware of your surroundings. Don´t concern yourself with the scoreboard, it is unimportant. Things also go a bit faster on Gold - it does not seem like much but it does makes a difference. Put on good consumables, they do make a difference.

I also recommend to be picky which pug match you play. It is not failsafe at all, but I´m always looking for at least one other player who looks on paper like they could clutch a wave by themselves if I get downed. 

 

The resource library has been pointed out already, lots of good advice on game mechanics there.

[Computron2000]

Here's my own measurement on how to gauge if you're ready for gold. Solo gold waves 1 and 2 without having to use any medigel, missiles, ops packs or thermal clips. If you can do that, you will be okay up to wave 6. You can equip any stuff (eg weapon amps, cyclonic mods) you want as long as you know that you will need the same exact set when you actually start doing gold. That is why i would recommend not using anything when you do PRACTICE SOLO (actual team games require you to put something on or look like a cheapskate wanting to be carried) so you don't lose anything when you die.

 

Note what is causing you major issues, eg brutes or other armoured units, will point to where you are lacking, so think up or search for ways to patch your weakness there

 

Once in an actual gold game, equip stuff that will patch up your weaknesses that you discovered during your solos. Died in your solo practices too much? Put on a cyclonic mod or shield cell. Find yourself taking so long to kill a boss that it regenerated shields/barriers by the time you came back out from cover? Put on weapon amps or use an ammo power like disrupter or incendiary. Find your tech explosions being few? Put on a ammo power to improve the rate.

 

Make sure you have medigel and rockets. Use those when you think its necessary. Your timing on when to use those will change as you get better and increase in your consumable cap

 

The game can be handled if you know some stuff and as you know more, it gets easier. Some of it is very basic but you may never find out about it without reading about it or noticing it in game (mp or sp). Stuff like ammo powers priming for bursts, stacking of tech powers with biotic, etc

 

​The me3 mp resource library thread stickied right at the top of the forum is where you want to start. quick link here . Do be aware that some of the information there may be out of date but most of it is relevant

[bondiboy]

In nearly every pug I play there is at least one player with low level equipment who will get carried along with the rest of the team.

 

Thats not a bad thing . Most if not all players have been in a game at some stage where they were the least experienced in their early gold matches.

 

Really only need 2 experienced players to complete a game. As long as you help with objectives and dont run off by yourself making it hard for others to revive you then no one should care about the fact that you are new to playing Gold.

 

If you do get any grief just exit . Plenty of players are cool with helping you out as long as you try to be a team player.

 

edit : Also some practical advice from Computron above

[E1io]

A few tips I learned:

 

1. Weapons trump powers.
2. Leechers(guys with Avenger 1s for example) are rampant.
3. Connection is crucial. You probably are better off hosting if you can.
4. Not every class/setup works unless you got a really good gun.

[Excella Gionne]

A few tips I learned:

 

1. Weapons trump powers.
2. Leechers(guys with Avenger 1s for example) are rampant.
3. Connection is crucial. You probably are better off hosting if you can.
4. Not every class/setup works unless you got a really good gun.

1. Depends on the individual's LOLSkillz

2. You clearly have yet to see an Avenger I in action

3. Teleporting is fun and at least a Turian can now dodge.

4. Guns are overrated. 

[Catastrophy]

You're never ready if you don't do it. One of the things you cannot prepare for is the slightly faster change of pace. You need to adapt to it by playing it.

[Excella Gionne]

You're never ready if you don't do it. One of the things you cannot prepare for is the slightly faster change of pace. You need to adapt to it by playing it.

The OP must adapt like krogans do. "Survival is an honor."