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[Borschtbeet]

I pre-ordered the digital deluxe edition from Direct2drive.com. They didn't say anything about a limited number of installs.



Even so, who gives a crap? If you have so much crap on your hard drive that you contemplate having to delete Mass Effect 2 5 times over then perhaps it's time you invest in a new hard drive, or delete some other useless crap.

[Hulluliini]

I've reinstalled Windows in the past year AT LEAST 5 times.

[Syn.aptic]

Hulluliini wrote...

I've reinstalled Windows in the past year AT LEAST 5 times.

I think you should fix that

[Phinor]

Starfire013 wrote...

It's 5 activations per 24 hours, people. I don't see the problem. It's not 5 activations ever. I hardly think any sane person would be changing their system configuration 5 times in a day and reinstalling the game in between each time.

Could you confirm this with a link? The new system you describe has only been confirmed with the original Dragon Age.

[Jazharah]

Phinor wrote...

Starfire013 wrote...

It's 5 activations per 24 hours, people. I don't see the problem. It's not 5 activations ever. I hardly think any sane person would be changing their system configuration 5 times in a day and reinstalling the game in between each time.

Could you confirm this with a link? The new system you describe has only been confirmed with the original Dragon Age.

Indeed, it would be assuring if this could be confirmed for ME2 as well.

[DKnightPortela]

Starfire013 wrote...

It's 5 activations per 24 hours, people. I don't see the problem. It's not 5 activations ever. I hardly think any sane person would be changing their system configuration 5 times in a day and reinstalling the game in between each time.

While I don't like DRM in general, I don't think this system is one I'm going to complain about.

Not if its the old 5 install limitation crap, if its the 24 hours 5 installation max then fine, i have no problem with that, but EA is pulling their old bull then we got a problem, I'm not going to pay for extra installations after for some reason i pass the 5 limit instalations( my computer have been installed windows vista 3 times now because of the Squeal of death due to my Sound blaster live problem)  like the old DRM system.

[Syn.aptic]

ipwndk wrote...

Syn.aptic wrote...

Hulluliini wrote...

I've reinstalled Windows in the past year AT LEAST 5 times.

I think you should fix that

Why? People can choose themselves how frequently they want to reinstall. Also, many doesn't just let anything they install sit on their computer indefinitely. I got a few hundred gigabytes of games, don't want them to hog all the space.

Now I expect the limit to be sane, and be installs within a period of time. No problem then. Anything else, and customers will respond like they did with Spore.

All that thinks its fine with a limit of installs within an indefinite period, is not helping the issue at hand. It's fine and dandy that you never uninstall anything on your computers, and never reformats. Whatever makes your day. Does not change the fact that thousands others do reinstall and reformat their computers.

If you have to reformat your computer that much, then there is something seriously wrong or you are just neurotic. Windows isn't that unstable.

[DKnightPortela]

Syn.aptic wrote...

ipwndk wrote...

Syn.aptic wrote...

Hulluliini wrote...

I've reinstalled Windows in the past year AT LEAST 5 times.

I think you should fix that

Why? People can choose themselves how frequently they want to reinstall. Also, many doesn't just let anything they install sit on their computer indefinitely. I got a few hundred gigabytes of games, don't want them to hog all the space.

Now I expect the limit to be sane, and be installs within a period of time. No problem then. Anything else, and customers will respond like they did with Spore.

All that thinks its fine with a limit of installs within an indefinite period, is not helping the issue at hand. It's fine and dandy that you never uninstall anything on your computers, and never reformats. Whatever makes your day. Does not change the fact that thousands others do reinstall and reformat their computers.

If you have to reformat your computer that much, then there is something seriously wrong or you are just neurotic. Windows isn't that unstable.

You're counting with hardware incompatabilities? Software screw ups? As i said before i had my rig fine for a year until all of a sudden i had the Squeal of death problem still to resolve because of my Sound blaster Fatality pro, so the counts of install and reformats of my drive are at 3 now and still i havent resolved that issue. One thing i learned about computers since i was 12 is that NOTHING is stable.

[Merchant2006]

For people who fret about D2D/Steam versions, I highly doubt it will apply. You have purchased the game via Steam, so it is tied to your account. I'm sure you can download/remove it infinite times... but hey, I don't think many of us will want that baby removed from our PC's

[Loerwyn]

Steam does sometimes implement additional DRM at the developer/publisher's say-so, but it's always mentioned.



And the ME2 store page says nothing on the subject, so it'll be DRM free. I would honestly only expect EA's DRM to apply only to the EA store, as BioWare have repeatedly said ME2 will be DRM free.

[aries1001]

It's 5 activations....(of course, you'll have to install the game first in order to active it ).

not installations.



The retail disc for Mass Effect 2 will be drm free since it will only have a simple disc check - as with Dragon Age, Mass Effect 2 will feature DLC to that'll get people interested in buying the game.



Steam, the EA digital store etc. will use whatever copy protection schemes they're normally using.

[Jazharah]

aries1001 wrote...

It's 5 activations....(of course, you'll have to install the game first in order to active it ).
not installations.

The retail disc for Mass Effect 2 will be drm free since it will only have a simple disc check - as with Dragon Age, Mass Effect 2 will feature DLC to that'll get people interested in buying the game.

Steam, the EA digital store etc. will use whatever copy protection schemes they're normally using.

Assumption or Fact?
If fact, source/proof please?

[Unknown924]

Impulse has the EULA up on the ME2 store page.



(ii) For Software delivered via digital download: This Software uses EA Shared Game Component: Activation digital rights management technology. An EA Account, including the acceptance of EA?s online Terms of Service and Privacy Policy (http://terms.ea.com), and an Internet connection are required to authenticate the Software and verify your license upon the initial launch of the Software on any unique machine (?Authenticate? or ?Authentication?). The serial code provided with this Software will be verified during Authentication. Authentication is limited to one EA Account per serial code. EA reserves the right to validate your license through subsequent online Authentication. While there is no limit on the total number of machines on which the Software can be Authenticated, you may launch and access the Software on no more than five (5) unique machines in any rolling 24-hour period. If you disable or otherwise tamper with the technical protection measures, the Software may not function properly and you will have materially breached this License.

[Tobebech1307]

Can someone from Bioware talk about this?

[Duckduden]

If they go spore on us, i will return the game. And may or may not visit Ea with a crowbar.

[gstommylee]

Guy CHILL the hell OUT.



If it says basic disc check for pc retail then its exactly that.

[gstommylee]

Jazharah



That's always been the case for digital copies for Steam, the EA digital store etc. will use whatever copy protection schemes they're normally using.

[DKnightPortela]

Still no word from BW interesting... in a side not Tommy steam is still blocked i think you may be right all along and its going to be a free for all sunday, mehh...

[gstommylee]

You guys are complaining over 5 in a 24 hour period?  Who installs it in that many machines in a day? 

Again Chill out.  ME 2 has been stated for pc for retial to be DRM free with only serial and basic disc check. 

DKnightPortela wrote...

Still no word from BW interesting... in a side not Tommy steam is still blocked i think you may be right all along and its going to be a free for all sunday, mehh...

Actually if you read a new recent thread on it there was a issue in getting me2 preload which i believe was suppose to be yesterday.

Modifié par gstommylee, 23 janvier 2010 - 04:21 .

[GenericPlayer2]

I got the game on Steam - I guess I will have to wait a few extra days before playing it. The disc version is already out?



I don't see an issue with 5 installations per 24 hours - thats fine. But if it is 5 installations/activations total I will be angry. What makes it more frustrating is that I heard that trivial hardware changes like a keyboard or mouse can trigger a new activation be required. No clue if its true or simply an urban legend. I really hope that BW sheds some light on this since there seem to be conflicting reports.

[Phinor]

gstommylee wrote...

You guys are complaining over 5 in a 24 hour period?  Who installs it in that many machines in a day? 

If you had actually read the thread.. but you didn't. No one has said anything bad about 5 activations in 24 hour period because that's not the protection this game has according to the official site. Many people have said that if it is indeed the same DRM as in Dragon Age, that would be great but based on the official FAQ, it's 5 activations total, ever, and that's it. Which is why we are hoping for official confirmation either way.

[gstommylee]

Bioware already said its the same as dragon age when they announced it.