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Did Hawke save Flemeth?


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Hawke delivers that amulet to Sundermount, where Flemeth shows up.

 

Was that Flemeth's method of escaping death at the hands of the Warden?

 

What was up with that, exactly?

 

I don't understand the necessity of having Hawke do that ritual when she can simply fly.



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Short Answer: Yes.

 

Long answer: http://i.imgur.com/1lKfjEP.jpg


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Goddamnit Hawke.

 

He revives Flemeth and lets Corypheus walk out.

 

He doesn't notice Anders is nuts and lets him start World War Mage.

 

He's a goddamn tool.


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lets Corypheus walk out.

Corypheus is dead.



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Corypheus is dead.

 

It is heavily implied that Corypheus' soul possesses either Larius or Janeka, depending on whom you side with.


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Well, I'm not sure how, but Morrigan must have found out that my Warden tricked her and then found a way to kill Flemeth again perhaps by hiring assassins, sometime during the events of Awakening. Otherwise the Amulet was a redundant backup plan, and there's actually two Flemeth's... or she merged with herself again after avoiding death by convincing my Warden to trick Morrigan... or the original Flemeth in the Wilds killed herself to cover the tracks of the copy in the amulet. I'm not sure. I just know she's not dead and Hawke helped with her plan in some way. Whether or not it was actually a required task to save Flemeth's life, idk.


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Goddamnit Hawke.
 
He revives Flemeth and lets Corypheus walk out.
 
He doesn't notice Anders is nuts and lets him start World War Mage.
 
He's a goddamn tool.


Smuggling Flemeth's amulet is neither good or bad since we really don't know what she's about. Hawke doesn't "let" Corypheus loose, since he/she has no way to know that he can transfer his consciousness (and it's not yet confirmed that he actually did). As for Anders, you can snitch on him and the Templars still do nothing. I guess you can fault Hawke for not murdering Anders preemptively, but if you kick him out of the party, you have no say to know what he'd do either.
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The amulet didn't make two Flemeth's, she gets teleported if Warden didn't kill Flemeth, or Flemeth is restored/revived if she was killed. It was a favor for rescuing Hawke. Hawke didn't know Cory can transfer life like Archdemon's can. Its not knowledgeable outside of the Warden's circle. The wardens probably have no clue themselves.


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Larius would probably have mentioned this if he knew.

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Was the amulet Flemeth's only security? I rather doubt it would be.

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Well, she does say Hawke saved her.



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It is heavily implied that Corypheus' soul possesses either Larius or Janeka, depending on whom you side with.

It is also implied that a monster inhabits Loch Ness, but I don't buy it either.

 

Besides, my genre savvy Hawkes kill the remaining part of the dynamic L&J duo just to be on the safe side.



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You're going to stop this when you see him again, right?



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He doesn't notice Anders is nuts and lets him start World War Mage.

 

In Hawke's defense, s/he can warn both Elthina and Cullen (possibly with Anders right there in the GALLOWS surrounded by back-up templars) about Anders.  It's not Hawke's fault that they're incompetent.



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Smuggling Flemeth's amulet is neither good or bad since we really don't know what she's about. Hawke doesn't "let" Corypheus loose, since he/she has no way to know that he can transfer his consciousness (and it's not yet confirmed that he actually did). As for Anders, you can snitch on him and the Templars still do nothing. I guess you can fault Hawke for not murdering Anders preemptively, but if you kick him out of the party, you have no say to know what he'd do either.

 

You know she only saved the Warden so he will do the Dark Ritual and she'd possess Morrigan and get the baby. So yeah, evil.

 

Corypheus was let loose from his prison by Hawke, the only one who could open it.



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You're going to stop this when you see him again, right?

If you refer to the Loch Ness monster, I have no plans to go to Scotland, so my chances of seeing him are slim. If you refer to Corypheus, I guess I'll have to find another franchise - one that actually lets me make a difference in their DLCs.



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You know she only saved the Warden so he will do the Dark Ritual and she'd possess Morrigan and get the baby. So yeah, evil.

 

Corypheus was let loose from his prison by Hawke, the only one who could open it.

 

We don't know if anything particularly good or bad will become of Morrigan's child, so the Dark Ritual's only effect so far has been the continued existence of the Warden. As for possessing Morrigan, we don't know for certain if Morrigan as completely truthful or correct. In any case, Hawke has no way to know about any of this, but the Warden is complicit in this scheme if Morrigan gets her old god baby, so she/he and/or Alistair are not off the hook for that.

 

As for Corypheus, it seems like people are conveniently forgetting that the only reason Hawke and possibly sibling Hawke go down there is because Cory has been sending enthralled Carta dwarves to try and kill them to get their blood, and there seemed to be no chance of them being left alone until they investigated the problem. Then there's the issue of neither Larius or Janeka having any idea or any willingness to tell Hawke that maybe Corypheus can cheat death by transferring to someone with the taint, and that's assuming that he has this power in the first place. There's always the possibility that he's simply dead.



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As for possessing Morrigan, we don't know for certain if Morrigan as completely truthful or correct.

 

Considering Flemeth offers you her book in exchange for her life, goes away and intends to possess Morrigan, yeah you do.

 

the Warden is complicit in this scheme if Morrigan gets her old god baby, so she/he and/or Alistair are not off the hook for that.

 

Morrigan isn't evil, though.

 

Flemeth is.

 

There's always the possibility that he's simply dead.

 

You can clearly see he possesses the warden that's present.



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Considering Flemeth offers you her book in exchange for her life, goes away and intends to possess Morrigan, yeah you do.

 

What Flemeth says is not necessarily the entire truth either. In DA:O, she's not entirely forthcoming, and even hints that Morrigan may be manipulating the Warden as well, which we later learn to be correct, since she withheld vital information until the time was right.

 

 

Morrigan isn't evil, though.

 

Flemeth is.

 

And yet Morrigan, for whatever reason, continues to carry out this plan to get one of the Wardens to provide her with the soul of the old god in infant form. At least in this case, Morrigan makes it clear that this was Flemeth's plan all along, but if Flemeth is evil for her scheming involving the Wardens, wouldn't that automatically make Morrigan so for carrying it out?

 

 

You can clearly see he possesses the warden that's present.

 

This does not preclude the possibility that Corypheus is actually dead, but in any case, Hawke does not have the player's savvy to notice the weird imagery or hear the creepy, foreboding music that hints that something is wrong.



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My Warden already saved Flemeth by ignoring Morrigan.

 

Reviving her "fragment" was redundant...

 

Fighting a dragon for one woman... and a measly robe for loot. Won't do that again. This whole plot seems written for romancers. Not anyone else.


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I do like how Morrigan will correct the Warden if you choose the dialogue insisting that Flemeth is dead in Witch Hunt. Like "Wait, so I trekked all the way into the blighted wilds to fight a dragon, for nothing?"



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I think what I dislike the most is that if you agree to it, you're immediately seen as Morrigan's puppet. That's how Flemeth views it at least. "Dancing to her tune", in her words.

 

I'd rather compose my own tune. That would be the dignified thing.



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"Wait, so I trekked all the way into the blighted wilds to fight a dragon, for nothing?"

 

Not for nothing!

 

That Lyrium Potion I got off Flemeth's corpse was very helpful...


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Flemeth knew Morrigan would send the warden to kill her, Since Flemeth didn't know what the Warden would do when the time came, she took the necessary precaution.  Pretty smart if you ask me.

 



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Not for nothing!

 

That Lyrium Potion I got off Flemeth's corpse was very helpful...

 

Too bad I couldn't milk more gold out of Godwin for that lyrium too, but I did make a nice tidy profit from both him and Rogek.