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CSMG has to be terrible against the Collectors, right?


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#51
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With all respect, OP, I don´t think this has anything to do with csmg. The weapon is just fine. Though Rio can be b...ch and Collectors are very hard pushing.

I suck at clutching waves too.



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The lancer is better than the Csmg


Only from hard cover..

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Only from hard cover..


Ignore him. He's a scrub.
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Get someone to show you how to use the thing properly if you think it sucks.

 

I nominate Hoochie to take one for the team. :lol:  He loves the damn thing.

 

Never said it sucks in this whole topic I started. Just said it has to be bad against Collectors if you have a pretty low dps setup & kit, you powers & team go bye-bye, stage is Rio or worse,. and you can't shoot them Pretorians from a distance because of the bubble since you need powers you get a lot of bullets from this weapon.

 

In all honesty this was a very serious and very honest opinion I ran into. Posts I personally enjoy myself to read on BSN. But I somehow knew folks would still find a way to make it into a joke, why I was almost going to entirely avoid reading the replies in this topic until... for some reason this morning I felt extra bored?

 

 

But yes. I finally got this weapon at level 10, and refused to try it anymore since level 5 (though that was only like a week break from it), and I have to say this weapon is a lot better and too bad it was the last one to max out. As I'm a big fan of all charge weapons. Namely Lancer and CSMG. The fact that I prefer the Lancer over this one does not mean I still don't love the heck out of it, cause these two have to be my fave weapons now. Especially at level 10 and even with no consumables or gear on. Because charge weapon. So if any of you can actually give me some proper advice with my second fave weapon against Collectors (my fave faction), that would be great. Otherwise I will just ignore like I normally enjoy doing.

 

 

 

Anyways, I noticed some normal replies on page 2, so maybe I'll read some more? If not, I got better things to do like playing ME3mp on X-Box with a decent controller that also fits my hand perfectly. Feel free to join me,  :) cause todays specialty is CSMG a la FQE & level 1 consumables.



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CSMG is one of the best weapons in the game IMO.

 

 

Well being fun sure helps too.

 

EDIT - and in case you didn't read  my previous post due to length, the CSMG is my second gave weapon after Lancer. Though now that both are at 10, maybe a turnover could even happen? Who knows? But that's not how it is now.

 

 

EDIT 2 - wow, the capn iceman sure makes some awesome posts too. ... nice to see Dimbagho see my point too.



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Sinful, your OP doesn't make any sense. I drank a couple beers last night and read it and it didn't make sense. I wake up this morning and read it sober, it still doesn't make sense...

If you've got a question to ask then ask it, tell us what consumables you're using and where you're struggling, but cut down on the rambling man...

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Sinful, your OP doesn't make any sense. I drank a couple beers last night and read it and it didn't make sense. I wake up this morning and read it sober, it still doesn't make sense...
If you've got a question to ask then ask it, tell us what consumables you're using and where you're struggling, but cut down on the rambling man...

Consumables are cheating...Sinful would never stoop that low
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no no no Ribo, he'll use level 1 consumables. But anything higher than that is cheating.
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If someone is not headshotting with any gun.. then that person is doing it wrong.

FTFY

Edit: ok, Sinful very well. Maybe you can change...

Whether or not your powers are nullified just shoot the csmg in short bursts rather than full auto. The recharge is so quick it'll take a while to run out this way. It should also have a chance to recharge when you change positions, and you'll need to be doing that a lot against collectors.

Other than that, it's standard clutch procedure- wear down the wave budget by killing mooks and ignore the praetorians until the waves almost done. By the time you're having to fight the praetorians there shouldn't be many captains left, so fewer swarms to interrupt your powers. Scions are the biggest threat on rio, but stay off the walkways and you shouldn't be an easy target.
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Sinful, your OP doesn't make any sense. I drank a couple beers last night and read it and it didn't make sense. I wake up this morning and read it sober, it still doesn't make sense...

If you've got a question to ask then ask it, tell us what consumables you're using and where you're struggling, but cut down on the rambling man...

 

Some got it, but you didn't. .... Don't know what else to say....



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Some got it, but you didn't. .... Don't know what else to say....


No they didn't. You're trolling aren't you?

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Some got it, but you didn't. .... Don't know what else to say....

 

Your syntax makes anything you're trying to say very hard to understand.

Yoda speaks better than this.


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Some got it, but you didn't. .... Don't know what else to say....



...You .... need ... take it easy... with the .... ellipses ...

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Talking about armor here genius.  The nice 2x headshot bonus on a Praetorian is not something you are guaranteed, especially in a team game since most CSMG setups don't have the penetration for it when the bubble is up.

Remind me isn't there a glitch with ammo usage on it? 



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Not everyone is dumb enough to proc the crab bubble. The wasted time you're referring to is usually one cast cooldown.. not exactly a long period of time.

 

This is pretty simple.  You don't get to use the standard fire->hitscan power shenanigans that is the typical CSMG style against a Praetorian because the bubble will go up.  If you aren't using powers against it then you get to wait for recharge without power use.  When you do that the CSMG dps tanks.

 

The Praetorian is the worst enemy in the game to have to use a CSMG against because the HP pools are so large and you don't get to supplement damage from the CSMG with powers except with a few special case powers.  It has absolutely nothing to do with how well you can press a button for Incinerate.

 

Remind me isn't there a glitch with ammo usage on it? 

 

CSMG is inconsistent and as such the total value of damage I posted per your 72 shot capacity is a bit inflated.  It uses double ammo for a random 10-11 shots (on average) depending on if you have the extended mag or not.  With ROF bonuses it uses double ammo for more shots.  In the test w/ 50% ROF from TSol, corlist got 37 hits out of 54 shots.



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This is the ONLY SMG I use, like others have stated; it's better than the over analyzed, over hyped lancer

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Just found another strike against the CSMG against the Collectors. It's one of those guys that take a larger hit in accuracy when you have those bugs around you.

 

No they didn't. You're trolling aren't you?

 

Everything I had to say is all in the title. It's really that simple to figure out, regardless of how bad my English may be. So no, I'm not the one trolling. I not into that sort of thing.



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This is the ONLY SMG I use, like others have stated; it's better than the over analyzed, over hyped lancer

 

It's my favourite SMG by far too, but that's not the topic.



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If it is your favorite SMG and you think it is awful versus the Collectors, then use a pistol or shotgun.



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Just found another strike against the CSMG against the Collectors. It's one of those guys that take a larger hit in accuracy when you have those bugs around you.

 

 

Everything I had to say is all in the title. It's really that simple to figure out, regardless of how bad my English may be. So no, I'm not the one trolling. I not into that sort of thing.

The CSMG works against every faction. So no, it isn't bad against Collectors, you are.



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This is how I imagine Sinful in the process of crafting his intellectually-stimulating and well thought-out posts. 

 

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The Shuriken works against every faction, too.



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The Shuriken works against every faction, too.

Everything works against everything in some fashion or other. 



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Everything works against everything in some fashion or other. 

 

Yep.  I think this should be the basis of a new guide.



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Yep.  I think this should be the basis of a new guide.

Get that HI guide dude here right now...


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