As I've said before, Cerberus would have had a far harder time getting to it when the Asari were bunkered down, on high alert in preparation for a coming invasion (provided they actually were, instead of having an "Please remain calm! All is well! We now return you to 'Cooking with Blasto'" level of readiness); rather than actively being torn apart by one and thus unable to muster a response.
Pity Tevos was told about it too late, then.
Pity Tevos was told about it too late, then.
Pity the Asari thought they were so high and mighty that the Reapers wouldn't come after them.
I would've switched the coup mission with the Thessia mission that way it would make sense about the coup. Of course that leave Ashley/Kaidan to join very late in the game.
Pity the Asari thought they were so high and mighty that the Reapers wouldn't come after them.
Thankfully, Thessia got off relatively lightly.
Thankfully, Thessia got off relatively lightly.
I don't think they did. I think they got it just as bad as everyone else, if not worse. And they deserved it.
Thankfully, Thessia got off relatively lightly.
It really didn't, I'd say the only planet that got off lightly from the Reapers is Tuchanka because it's about as dangerous as a Reaper.
Thankfully, Thessia got off relatively lightly.
That would be Sur'Kesh
It really didn't, I'd say the only planet that got off lightly from the Reapers is Tuchanka because it's about as dangerous as a Reaper.
They didn't get off light either really. The only planet we see that really wasn't affected by the Reapers was Rannoch, and even then, they had to deal with the massive Geth threat.
I doubt Sur'Kesh got off easy either. It just went unstated, like so many other things in the game.
I don't think they did. I think they got it just as bad as everyone else, if not worse. And they deserved it.
Nah, the city's still intact from what we see in the EC. Thessia doesn't get hit until the war is almost over.
I don't think they did. I think they got it just as bad as everyone else, if not worse. And they deserved it.
Nah, the city's still intact from what we see in the EC. Thessia doesn't get hit until the war is almost over.
That didn't look too intact to me. I suppose you're going to say the same about London. I'd wager that with a combination of damage done, ill will towards the Asari due to them keeping themselves out of the fight and not helping until later, and the fact they had fore-knowledge of the Reapers via the beacon yet failed to act at all will likely see Thessia taking decades, possibly even centuries to recover from the war. And their political influence will never be the same again. None of the races will let them reach that level ever again.
Pity ingame dialogue directly contradicts this.
Seemed to me that dialogue only seemed to confirm that Thessia got hit harder than most.
That didn't look too intact to me. I suppose you're going to say the same about London. I'd wager that with a combination of damage done, ill will towards the Asari due to them keeping themselves out of the fight and not helping until later, and the fact they had fore-knowledge of the Reapers via the beacon yet failed to act at all will likely see Thessia taking decades, possibly even centuries to recover from the war. And their political influence will never be the same again. None of the races will let them reach that level ever again.
Aside from the fact that they joined the fight immediately after the coup, and the fact that it was flat-out impossible for them to have known about the Reapers due to not having the Cipher (in addition to the fact that Vendetta has clearly just woken up after being released from the statue, when it says "Post-Prothean cycle confirmed"). Again, I find it most peculiar, the tendency to focus furiously on and write fanfiction about that which you hate.
Seemed to me that dialogue only seemed to confirm that Thessia got hit harder than most.
Strange, as the dialogue only confirmed that Thessia got hit, period.
THERE WERE NO ARTIFACTS. The beacon was hidden inside a statue, and I'm almost certain it was never even used.
https://www.youtube....h?v=qcFANK15KSw
No artifacts?? Riiiight. 
btw, love Javik.
Happily, unlike you with Liara, I can ensure that Javik never appears in my game.
Seemed to me that dialogue only seemed to confirm that Thessia got hit harder than most.
Right, if Thessia got off easy then why the heck did Bioware have Liara crying like a baby, everyone proclaiming Thessia as lost, and Shep acting like his life was over?
Happily, unlike you with Liara, I can ensure that Javik never appears in my game.
Honestly, your replies are making even less sense.
Right, if Thessia got off easy then why the heck did Bioware have Liara crying like a baby, everyone proclaiming Thessia as lost, and Shep acting like his life was over?
Thessia was "lost" insofar as the Reapers successfully invaded it, like Earth. Everyone was particularly upset there because the mission didn't actually succeed and made everything else seems worse.
Thessia was "lost" insofar as the Reapers successfully invaded it, like Earth. Everyone was particularly upset there because the mission didn't actually succeed and made everything else seems worse.
Still no reason for Shepard to apologize to the Councillor when it should've been her apologizing to Shepard.
Aside from the fact that they joined the fight immediately after the coup, and the fact that it was flat-out impossible for them to have known about the Reapers due to not having the Cipher (in addition to the fact that Vendetta has clearly just woken up after being released from the statue, when it says "Post-Prothean cycle confirmed"). Again, I find it most peculiar, the tendency to focus furiously on and write fanfiction about that which you hate.
Strange, as the dialogue only confirmed that Thessia got hit, period.
If it was 'impossible' for the Asari to have used the Beacon without the Cipher, then the Asari wouldn't have been able to use the beacon to keep themselves perpetually ahead of the curve. The Asari had the information on their hands, they had access to it, and they did nothing. Nothing. I find it curious that you outright deny the Asari did any wrong at all, when they're more to blame than anyone else on lack of preparation. And they should have joined the fight immediately.
As Hazegurl said (and which you denied since you can't stand seeing your race of canon-sues slighted, even though the evidence is staunchly against you), the game makes it clear that Thessia got hammered. Badly. Very badly. Like 'Thessia will never be the same again' badly.
Happily, unlike you with Liara, I can ensure that Javik never appears in my game.
Your loss. He's a good character.
Happily, unlike you with Liara, I can ensure that Javik never appears in my game.
Yet Javik's appearance and content is canon regardless, and Javik confirms that the Asari are hoarding Prothean technology and have access to very critical information that could have ended the war a lot sooner.
Still no reason for Shepard to apologize to the Councillor when it should've been her apologizing to Shepard.
Well, in the end, Shepard was a better person than many of Shepard's players.
If it was 'impossible' for the Asari to have used the Beacon without the Cipher, then the Asari wouldn't have been able to use the beacon to keep themselves perpetually ahead of the curve. The Asari had the information on their hands, they had access to it, and they did nothing. Nothing. I find it curious that you outright deny the Asari did any wrong at all, when they're more to blame than anyone else on lack of preparation. And they should have joined the fight immediately.
As Hazegurl said (and which you denied since you can't stand seeing your race of canon-sues slighted, even though the evidence is staunchly against you), the game makes it clear that Thessia got hammered. Badly. Very badly. Like 'Thessia will never be the same again' badly.
That implies that the beacon was what was used to keep them ahead of the curve, which fails on two levels. First, there's other Prothean crap underneath the temple, and their data were stored in forms other than beacons, that could be read by those without the Cipher, like the Mars archives. Second, everyone based all of their mass effect technology on Prothean hand-me-downs, so the idea that the asari were staggering their advances periodically over time (which was only a conjecture and not stated as objective fact in-game) instead of just diving into it the instant they found it and building their entire society on it, before even meeting the salarians, makes little-to-no sense. Unless the Protheans wrote different examples of their technology using increasingly complex computing formats that it'd take steadily higher levels of technology to crack, which not only also makes no sense, but would require the asari to be technologically advancing on their own anyway.
Also, no one joins the fight immediately. And in the actual codex entry that relates the objective facts of the battle, Thessia isn't harmed particularly worse than anywhere except Palaven, thanks to its military not be quite so enormous. Certainly it's not hit worse than Earth.
Yet Javik's appearance and content is canon regardless, and Javik confirms that the Asari are hoarding Prothean technology and have access to very critical information that could have ended the war a lot sooner.
Funny, as that certainly isn't the case with any other DLC in the series. Do you have Bioware's confirmation on that?
Thessia was "lost" insofar as the Reapers successfully invaded it, like Earth. Everyone was particularly upset there because the mission didn't actually succeed and made everything else seems worse.
The Fall of Thessia-Codex, The Reaper War
"The assault on Thessia did not go as smoothly as the Reapers' strikes against other races. While other species met the Reapers head-on, the asari resorted to dangerous hit-and-run tactics to harass their attackers. By engaging in guerilla strategies--blasting a Reaper ship, then jumping to FTL where they could not be tracked--the asari forced the Reapers to remain on the defensive.
Unfortunately, the Reapers' greater numbers allowed them to accept certain losses, so they soon ignored the attacks against them and began orbital bombardment of Thessia. This in turn forced the asari to defend their homeworld with a more traditional stance, facing the Reaper forces directly. As soon as the Reapers landed on Thessia, the harvesting began.
A swift and brutal slaughter of the asari ground forces followed. Resistance from trained biotics barely slowed the attackers down. In the end, Thessia's minimal military forces, combined with unpreparedness in the face of an overwhelming enemy, resulted in the fall of the planet."
Yeah, the Reapers were bombing the entire planet from orbit. Thessia didn't stand a chance. If it makes you feel better, the reason why Humans held out on Earth was because the Reapers were not bombing them from orbit as humans were more important for the harvest. The only group who was shown no mercy but held out were the Turians with the help from the Krogan.
About Javik being canon. I can respect you not viewing him as canon in your game as I most certainly do not consider LOTSB or Liara saving my Shepard as canon. Bioware gave me a chance to skip it, complete with a different telling of how Liara got her Shadow Broker title. But, they still went to that Temple no matter what and those artifacts are still out in the open looking very Prothean like. I'm just sayin'
The Fall of Thessia-Codex, The Reaper War
"The assault on Thessia did not go as smoothly as the Reapers' strikes against other races. While other species met the Reapers head-on, the asari resorted to dangerous hit-and-run tactics to harass their attackers. By engaging in guerilla strategies--blasting a Reaper ship, then jumping to FTL where they could not be tracked--the asari forced the Reapers to remain on the defensive.
Unfortunately, the Reapers' greater numbers allowed them to accept certain losses, so they soon ignored the attacks against them and began orbital bombardment of Thessia. This in turn forced the asari to defend their homeworld with a more traditional stance, facing the Reaper forces directly. As soon as the Reapers landed on Thessia, the harvesting began.
A swift and brutal slaughter of the asari ground forces followed. Resistance from trained biotics barely slowed the attackers down. In the end, Thessia's minimal military forces, combined with unpreparedness in the face of an overwhelming enemy, resulted in the fall of the planet."
Yeah, the Reapers were bombing the entire planet from orbit. Thessia didn't stand a chance. If it makes you feel better, the reason why Humans held out on Earth was because the Reapers were not bombing them from orbit as humans were more important for the harvest. The only group who was shown no mercy but held out were the Turians with the help from the Krogan.
The orbital bombardment was a brief phase meant to dissuade the asari guerrilla tactics; the harvesting phase happened more or less as it did on Earth, except it ended sooner thanks to the end of the war.
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