The two Asari talking on Illium. "Sometimes you say these things, and I don't know... I wonder if it's because you had a Batarian father."
That second Asari turns the argument into a racial one in the first place, then has the gall to play the victim card over being a pureblood and starts making excuses for her past drug habit? Come on.
To be fair, Ilium's drug laws are pretty damned shady.
You're statement contracts itself by claiming that the Alliance blames the only group responding to the Attacks, while your premise cleary states the Alliance was acting in response to the attack. Also, the Alliance never officaly blamed Cerberus for the attack, Ash.Kaiden mentions that Cerberus might be connencted to missing colonies, we don't what conclusions they made as we're never told by an objective narrative source. That aside, you're still relying on the faulty generalisation fallacy in order to prove the assertion.
They never did anything officially because this was all off the record, but unofficially blaming someone and working on that assumption and ignoring contrary evidence is not comepetence
The VS says that the Alliance suspects Cerberus, they do not suspect the Collectors, then they say that Cerberus might be working with the Collectors, they never seem to guess that maybe the Collectors are doing it by themselves. That is the conclusion that the Alliance has reached, we know that because the VS tells us so.
"All the risks are printed on the label. It's legally required."To be fair, Ilium's drug laws are pretty damned shady.
Really now? Every single one?
Samara, Thane, Legion, Jack, and Liara definitely have. Zaeed, Wrex, and Garrus are likely. Miranda wouldn't surprise me. But the rest? Kaidan, Kasumi, even Grunt?
I wouldn't apply murder to Legion. Legion is a being not necessarily constrained by organic attitudes and logic. Miranda has likely killed in the line of her duty (as well as killing a defenseless Wilson in cold-blood), but whether or not you believe that constitutes murder is up to how you define murder. I believe Kasumi has killed (what would you call the Hock job)?
"All the risks are printed on the label. It's legally required."
Not saying I'm a fan of legalizing drugs, but frankly, she's forfiet all right to complain about the consequences of her stupidity.
she can go join racist asari who blames every other race for every conceivable bad thing that's ever happened in history
They never did anything officially because this was all off the record, but unofficially blaming someone and working on that assumption and ignoring contrary evidence is not comepetence
The VS says that the Alliance suspects Cerberus, they do not suspect the Collectors, then they say that Cerberus might be working with the Collectors, they never seem to guess that maybe the Collectors are doing it by themselves. That is the conclusion that the Alliance has reached, we know that because the VS tells us so.
The Alliance reached no conclusion, Ash/Kaidan does. you're somehow projecting that whatever Ash/Kaidan tells you applies to the Alliance as whole, which is as fallacious as reasoning can get.
"All the risks are printed on the label. It's legally required."
Not saying I'm a fan of legalizing drugs, but frankly, she's forfiet all right to complain about the consequences of her stupidity.
I disagree in this instance. Illium is a stark observation of why I think Libertarians are cranks. They are legally required to print something on the label. Yet legal terms are easy to finagle around and twist to your advantage, especially with narcotic products. I'm fine for legalizing drugs (as long as they're taxed), but they need to be regulated by a central authority, not left to words a corporate conglomeration of pharmaceutical companies invents and changes to suit their needs.
A heist. She and Shepard took down a gunship pouring fire in their direction.I wouldn't apply murder to Legion. Legion is a being not necessarily constrained by organic attitudes and logic. Miranda has likely killed in the line of her duty (as well as killing a defenseless Wilson in cold-blood), but whether or not you believe that constitutes murder is up to how you define murder. I believe Kasumi has killed (what would you call the Hock job)?
The Alliance reached no conclusion, Ash/Kaidan does. you're somehow projecting that whatever Ash/Kaidan tells you applies to the Alliance as whole, which is as fallacious as reasoning can get.
Anderson also hints that he agrees with them, but I'd need to replay that bit to post what he says exactly, but its along the lines of "Well Cerberus has a shady past so...."
The Alliance reached no conclusion, Ash/Kaidan does. you're somehow projecting that whatever Ash/Kaidan tells you applies to the Alliance as whole, which is as fallacious as reasoning can get.
Anderscum sort of paints a different picture, and it's only after the Horizon encounter that alliance reaches alert levels for the Collectors. This is a fallacy fallacy on your part, and improper usage of assuming a correlative.
Sounds like there is a central authority of some kind - the legally required labelling is indicative of some degree of regulation (which I absolutely agree needs to be there - I wonder if the libertarian "utopia" has building inspectors).I disagree in this instance. Illium is a stark observation of why I think Libertarians are cranks. They are legally required to print something on the label. Yet legal terms are easy to finagle around and twist to your advantage, especially with narcotic products. I'm fine for legalizing drugs (as long as they're taxed), but they need to be regulated by a central authority, not left to words a corporate conglomeration of pharmaceutical companies invents and changes to suit their needs.
Anderson also hints that he agrees with them, but I'd need to replay that bit to post what he says exactly, but its along the lines of "Well Cerberus has a shady past so...."
It's quite evident that Anderson, among other alliance personel, mistrust, if not outright detest Cerberus. I do too, the forced cooperation in Mass Effect 2 is one of the most flawed an contrived pieces of writing present in the trillogy and it's quite logical that it creates further inconsistancies an contrivances.
Anderscum sort of paints a different picture, and it's only after the Horizon encounter that alliance reaches alert levels for the Collectors. This is a fallacy fallacy on your part, and improper usage of assuming a correlative.
I Do not know Anderscum. There's no fallacy on my part, you can't assume that the statements of Ash/Kaidan on Horizon are respresnative for the Alliance as a whole with proper evidence.
A heist. She and Shepard took down a gunship pouring fire in their direction.
Now, with the guards in the security station towards the start of the mission, you may have a point.
I don't buy the "Legion didn't think it was murder, so it wasn't" line of argument. Likewise, the Morning War-era Quarians thought they were decommissioning malfunctioning machines - their perception doesn't change the fact that they weren't, and that it was genocide. Batarians may see slavery as no big deal, that doesn't mean we're compelled to concede to their perspective when they raid human colonies.
A heist that was technically illegal and the man they killed was legally defending his home and property (regardless of past suspected crimes). By standard legal definition, they committed breaking and entering, destruction of property, vandalism, who knows how many assaults, and at least one count of second-degree murder.
That's still an anthropocentric position you're taking as well in regards to all those arguments. The issue is that just because you don't buy into other species arguments does not mean they are bound by your logic as well. It's why I do not judge them for their actions, only react to them for my own needs. Only when it's a conceded type of rule that has been tuned to be of a similar logic to our own would I then defer judgement. It's why I'm so critical of Ashley and the Asari while I am silent on other matters.
Speaking of Elnora.
The first time I started that mission I brought Zaeed along. When I first encountered Elnora I was kinda sympathetic and I thought the Volus was trying to manipulate me, so I was going to let her go; however, Zaeed noticed her uniform and told her to line up against the wall. That's what sealed her fate. If a veteran mercenary warlord and co-founder of the Blue Suns condemns a surrendering mercenary, that mercenary is a body bag.
Sounds like there is a central authority of some kind - the legally required labelling is indicative of some degree of regulation (which I absolutely agree needs to be there - I wonder if the libertarian "utopia" has building inspectors).
According to Libertarian views of Somalia, no there aren't.
Seriously, people actually espoused that Somalia during the mid-1970's to the late-1990's was the place to live.
A heist that was technically illegal and the man they killed was legally defending his home and property (regardless of past suspected crimes). By standard legal definition, they committed breaking and entering, destruction of property, vandalism, who knows how many assaults, and at least one count of second-degree murder.
That's still an anthropocentric position you're taking as well in regards to all those arguments. The issue is that just because you don't buy into other species arguments does not mean they are bound by your logic as well. It's why I do not judge them for their actions, only react to them for my own needs. Only when it's a conceded type of rule that has been tuned to be of a similar logic to our own would I then defer judgement. It's why I'm so critical of Ashley and the Asari while I am silent on other matters.
It's technically not illegal if Shepard is a Spectre. While the Council did say that they wanted Shepard to stick to the Terminus, they don't revoke Shepard's status for doing otherwise, so it's still covered.
It's technically not illegal if Shepard is a Spectre. While the Council did say that they wanted Shepard to stick to the Terminus, they don't revoke Shepard's status for doing otherwise, so it's still covered.
but it is for Kasumi
Conceded.A heist that was technically illegal and the man they killed was legally defending his home and property (regardless of past suspected crimes). By standard legal definition, they committed breaking and entering, destruction of property, vandalism, who knows how many assaults, and at least one count of second-degree murder.
I'm not saying they're bound by my logic. I'm saying I'm not bound by theirs. They raid our colonies, we're allowed to be angry about it. We're allowed to fight back. They act in accordance with their perceptions in pursuit of their own ends; it's no sin for humanity to do the same - we're not compelled to roll with it.That's still an anthropocentric position you're taking as well in regards to all those arguments. The issue is that just because you don't buy into other species arguments does not mean they are bound by your logic as well. It's why I do not judge them for their actions, only react to them for my own needs. Only when it's a conceded type of rule that has been tuned to be of a similar logic to our own would I then defer judgement. It's why I'm so critical of Ashley and the Asari while I am silent on other matters.
but it is for Kasumi
Members of a Spectre's retinue seem to be covered.
Members of a Spectre's retinue seem to be covered.
"seem" is not a very powerful legal argument.
Hence why I'm not a member of the Libertarian party.According to Libertarian views of Somalia, no there aren't.
Seriously, people actually espoused that Somalia during the mid-1970's to the late-1990's was the place to live.
Members of a Spectre's retinue seem to be covered.
but he is not official Council business, this is a personal matter and I doubt the COuncil would allow this to be covered
but he is not official Council business, this is a personal matter and I doubt the COuncil would allow this to be covered
Well, if anyone bothered to charge Kasumi with it, it might be a problem, but that doesn't seem to have happened.
Well, if anyone bothered to charge Kasumi with it, it might be a problem, but that doesn't seem to have happened.
true, but the legal defense would probably be very shaky if charges were brought
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