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[Xilizhra]

The best punishment for Kai Leng would be to make him face the Catalyst and to pick an ending

He'd pick Synthesis. Or possibly Control.

[Mordokai]

He'd pick Synthesis. Or possibly Control.

 

One more reason to hate his miserable guts.

[Xilizhra]

One more reason to hate his miserable guts.

Hey, those are the two I like marginally more as well. If Destroy didn't kill the geth, I might take it, but...

[von uber]

Petrovsky.... I actually sort of respected him... until he got all smug and superior 30 seconds after I stopped Aria from killing him. Then, I just shot him myself. Aria's reaction was priceless.

Wait what? You can do that?

[KaiserShep]

I think there are a few ways that this can go down. I haven't gone through the entire gamut of varied endings for this DLC, but in one, Aria hands over Petrovsky if you oppose her often enough, at which point Petrovsky will say some stuff, triggering the renegade interrupt, followed by a second one that has Shepard shoot him in the face. If you go renegade enough, there are 2 paragon interrupts that you have to do to finally pull Aria off of him, but in this case, there is no option to shoot Petrovsky.

[themikefest]

He'd pick Synthesis. Or possibly Control.

If that's the case then I'm glad I kill him on Chronos leaving me to pick the best ending, destroy.

[Steelcan]

Kai Leng wouldn't pick anything because he was indoctrinated

[zestalyn]

Ugh, Kai Leng. He is so gross. He looks like the kind of kid who doesn't wash his hair for days out of sheer brooding. shudder

[KaiserShep]

Kai Leng wouldn't pick anything because he was indoctrinated

 

I wonder. If he's indoctrinated, doesn't that mean that the Catalyst can essentially just use him to do whatever it wants? What if by some fluke of the Mass Effect Universe, Kai Leng was standing on that platform. Couldn't the Catalyst just use its mind-bending mojo to just make him take a long walk off a short runway and just send him into the Crucible beam? It's not like there's any really meaningful difference between him and Shepard physically.

[Jorji Costava]

I wouldn't call Kai Leng a character I love to hate; when I think "love to hate," I think of something more like Clarence Boddicker from the original Robocop. The dude was such a sleazy bastard that you couldn't wait for him to get his comeuppance. Kai Leng is more in the "hate to hate" category; I dislike him more in the way that I dislike Jar Jar Binks than in the way I dislike Boddicker. He's just not a well-written antagonist.

 

For the actual "love to hate" category, I'd probably go with characters like Ethan Jeong from Feros (ME's answer to Carter Burke from Aliens) or Anoleis from Noveria.

[Han Shot First]

Gavin Archer

 

The best paragon interrupt in the series was pistol-whipping him. 

[DeinonSlayer]

I wouldn't call Kai Leng a character I love to hate; when I think "love to hate," I think of something more like Clarence Boddicker from the original Robocop. The dude was such a sleazy bastard that you couldn't wait for him to get his comeuppance. Kai Leng is more in the "hate to hate" category; I dislike him more in the way that I dislike Jar Jar Binks than in the way I dislike Boddicker. He's just not a well-written antagonist.
 
For the actual "love to hate" category, I'd probably go with characters like Ethan Jeong from Feros (ME's answer to Carter Burke from Aliens) or Anoleis from Noveria.

Yep, I'd have loved the opportunity to strap the little weasel to the front bumper of the Mako and take him along for the ride back to Zhu's Hope.

[KaiserShep]

Yep, I'd have loved the opportunity to strap the little weasel to the front bumper of the Mako and take him along for the ride back to Zhu's Hope.

 

I wouldn't strap him onto the Mako. I'd make sure he got to the colony safely, so that he's guaranteed to tag along, unarmed, while dealing with the creepers and enthralled colonists.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I find it odd how I really don't hate characters like Jeong, Anoleis, or Gavin Archer. Honestly, If I was in a room with those three, plus Aria, Harken, and Fist, and also with Gerrel, Mikhailovitch, Nyreen, and Ashley, and I had a gun with 10 bullets, I'd shoot Gerrel and Mikhailovitch twice, and I'd shoot Nyreen and Ashley three times. And I might pistol-whip Anoleis. Otherwise, I'd let the rest go with a warning not to ****** me off or get in my way, but more or less let them go scot-free.

 

Then again, my Shepard is a rather selfish guy. The simple reason he doesn't give a damn about slavery? It doesn't affect him personally, and it doesn't affect his goals. Otherwise he'd dismantle it or propagate it according to his needs.

[KaiserShep]

I'd probably just shoot Fist and Harkin, for the same reason I don't allow roaches in my kitchen. I always thought it was weird how Shepard couldn't threaten Anoleis for not being more compliant, since, after all, the fate of all galactic civilization hinges on the success of this mission. It's not like his guards could make it there in time before Shepard puts a bullet between his eyes for being uncooperative.

[DeinonSlayer]

I find it odd how I really don't hate characters like Jeong, Anoleis, or Gavin Archer. Honestly, If I was in a room with those three, plus Aria, Harken, and Fist, and also with Gerrel, Mikhailovitch, Nyreen, and Ashley, and I had a gun with 10 bullets, I'd shoot Gerrel and Mikhailovitch twice, and I'd shoot Nyreen and Ashley three times. And I might pistol-whip Anoleis. Otherwise, I'd let the rest go with a warning not to ****** me off or get in my way, but more or less let them go scot-free.
 
Then again, my Shepard is a rather selfish guy. The simple reason he doesn't give a damn about slavery? It doesn't affect him personally, and it doesn't affect his goals. Otherwise he'd dismantle it or propagate it according to his needs.

Out of that list? Fist, and maybe Harkin. Don't really care about Anoleis, Mikhailovitch or Nyreen (well meaning yet painfully naive). Jeong survives my canon playthrough (intimidate), guy's really below my concern.

Didn't punch Archer. Took David away because the project was a failure (the concept of giving the Geth a new god to follow was flawed from the start IMO), but one has to bear in mind that often times the biggest difference between Shepard's atrocities (ie. Bahak, which the galaxy squandered) and those of certain people you encounter is that Shepard's atrocities work.

[KaiserShep]

If not for Gianna Parasini I wouldn't really have cared about Anoleis at all, but since she's there, I might as well get some amusement out of screwing him over, even though I don't really have a problem with corrupt business people trying to screw each other on some icy pit in Nowheresville, Milky Way.

[Remix-General Aetius]

I don't love to hate, I just HATE smartass volus NPCs who think they're smarter than everyone else. Pitne For, Din Korlack and that moron on the Citadel with the "stolen" credit chit..............chit.........what a stupid word.

 

Han Olar (the maddened volus on Peak 15), on the other hand, is adorable! and in Korlack's case I really wish Zaeed WOULD get to kick the crap out of him, not just threaten him.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Another plebian from this series who I randomly thought of today is Delan, that mechanic from Horizon.

 

And, I'm not exactly on the Alliances' jocks, but I hate people with that attitude where they hate and protest the government endlessly yet are so entitled they still expect things from them. I often tell him to join us, mainly as a joke, but the fact he never would also makes me feel like he has no right to complain. He's like...

 

"I don't need their help! Too many strings attached."

*dude goes into hiding while Shep & Co. fight the Collectors, push them out of the colony*

"No, don't let them get away! Do something!"

 

Don't need help my ass.

[KaiserShep]

It's even better how he's bitter that an Alliance soldier survives the ordeal, when there's still a matter of half the colony surviving as well, as opposed to all of them being taken instead.

[Xilizhra]

I wonder. If he's indoctrinated, doesn't that mean that the Catalyst can essentially just use him to do whatever it wants? What if by some fluke of the Mass Effect Universe, Kai Leng was standing on that platform. Couldn't the Catalyst just use its mind-bending mojo to just make him take a long walk off a short runway and just send him into the Crucible beam? It's not like there's any really meaningful difference between him and Shepard physically.

I don't think the Catalyst has the proper hardware for indoctrination, and in any case, Kai Leng would likely be unable to use any of them, so the Catalyst would probably just never introduce itself.

 

 

I'd probably just shoot Fist and Harkin, for the same reason I don't allow roaches in my kitchen. I always thought it was weird how Shepard couldn't threaten Anoleis for not being more compliant, since, after all, the fate of all galactic civilization hinges on the success of this mission. It's not like his guards could make it there in time before Shepard puts a bullet between his eyes for being uncooperative.

I think it's because Shepard doesn't want to cause a genuine incident with Noveria, perhaps?

[KaiserShep]

I'm rather curious to know why that would matter. It seems to me that an incident with Noveria is tantamount to a fart in a storm, considering the stakes of the mission. And even still, I killed a number of ERCS guards, killed one of their most notable investors, and released a deadly alien life form on their planet. What are they going to do, sue? They can wait in line after Harbinger when he files a grievance for killing Sovereign.

[Xilizhra]

I'm rather curious to know why that would matter. It seems to me that an incident with Noveria is tantamount to a fart in a storm, considering the stakes of the mission. And even still, I killed a number of ERCS guards, killed one of their most notable investors, and released a deadly alien life form on their planet. What are they going to do, sue? They can wait in line after Harbinger when he files a grievance for killing Sovereign.

They might be able to do something to the Normandy while Shepard was off of it.

[wolfhowwl]

Tallis.

 

My hatred transcends BioWare franchises.

[KaiserShep]

And what would stop the Alliance from simply threatening to bomb their sites from orbit? In Hackett's position, I'd take out one of their remote facilities just to give them a love tap. Despite their rinky-dink corporate laws, impounding a rather substantial investment on the part of an entire military organization should earn you a tungsten round hurled from orbit, not to mention that Port Hanshan would likely turn into a war zone if they tried to throw guards at Shepard and crew.