And what would stop the Alliance from simply threatening to bomb their sites from orbit? In Hackett's position, I'd nuke one just to let them know that I'm serious.
Who can say? The point is that all of this can and will be avoided if Shepard just plays nice. It's not like that's particularly difficult.
You know, I didn't like particularly like Leng, but I certainly never felt any of the frustration towards him that is evidently behind players gleefully discussing various painful methods of his demise.
Would I be correct in guessing it boils down to little more than players' hysteria at the premise of 'their Shepard' losing an important fight? And that just doesn't happen, because, by golly, it's 'their Shepard' and they can do anything?
You know, I didn't like particularly like Leng, but I certainly never felt any of the frustration towards him that is evidently behind players gleefully discussing various painful methods of his demise.
Would I be correct in guessing it boils down to little more than players' hysteria at the premise of 'their Shepard' losing an important? And that just doesn't happen, because, by golly, it's 'their Shepard' and they can do anything?
If I had to guess, it's largely because he's not an interesting antagonist and doesn't measure up as some kind of anti-Shepard, as he was supposed to be.
That certainly justifies not liking him. I don't like him. But the murder fantasizes people seem to post whenever he comes up tell me that something else is probably going on.
Patrosky or whatever from Omega was an utterly boring, completely uninteresting antagonist. Worse than Leng. You don't see this kind of thing with him.
That certainly justifies not liking him. I don't like him. But the murder fantasizes people seem to post whenever he comes up tell me that something else is probably going on.
Perhaps one might say that he short-circuited some peoples' heroism.
Who can say? The point is that all of this can and will be avoided if Shepard just plays nice. It's not like that's particularly difficult.
Thing is, it's not actually playing nice that gets Shepard out of the port and onto Peak 15; it's pure dumb luck.
Let's say that Anoleis is either not actually getting greedy, or is simply not yet under investigation. Right there, that leaves us with no alternatives if we want to get out of there. It can be assumed in the beginning that Anoleis may be our one and only source of information, so it may have to come to any means necessary to get it out of him. If he had to be tortured and killed to get it, then I would consider that perfectly acceptable, because his life is worth nothing compared to billions, and he may be the one thing standing in our way, for the sake of trying to maintain investor confidentiality. Other than that, playing nice could easily just result in Shepard aimlessly wandering the port, hoping to find someone more cooperative. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Thing is, it's not actually playing nice that gets Shepard out of the port and onto Peak 15; it's pure dumb luck.
Let's say that Anoleis is either not actually getting greedy, or is simply not yet under investigation. Right there, that leaves us with no other recourse if we want to get out of there. It can be assumed in the beginning that Anoleis may be our one and only source of information, so it may have to come to any means necessary to get it out of him. If he had to be tortured and killed to get it, then I would consider that perfectly acceptable, because his life is worth nothing compared to billions, and he may be the one thing standing in our way, for the sake of trying to maintain investor confidentiality. Other than that, playing nice could easily just result in Shepard aimlessly wandering the port, hoping to find someone more cooperative. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Or, given that there are presumably more than three people who are allowed to use the garage, you start looking around for other favors you might be able to do for people in order to get outside. For instance, giving Anoleis Opold's package will have him give you a pass instantly, allowing you to skip the entire Qui'in questline.
That is a perfect example of aimless wandering. Beyond the metagame-y compulsion to go into every available market or kiosk at a hub, who would think to go to a shop? Not only is it aimless wandering though, it's also another example of dumb luck. Basically, all quests lead to the mountain, but from Shepard's point of view, there is no reason to believe that this is so.
Other than that, playing nice could easily just result in Shepard aimlessly wandering the port, hoping to find someone more cooperative. Ain't nobody got time for that.
That's quite often true. Both in fiction and real life.
How many times has a story presented a scenario of the protagonist trying to infiltrate some building? He looks around. Lo and behold, he always figures out a way. There's always a weakness to be exploited.
How many times has a protagonist been running to escape some a disaster of some kind - a fire, an explosion, a collapsing building, and lo and behold, he always figures out a way. There's always something he uses to his advantage.
So this is a rather silly complaint.
You should learn a bit about Narrative Causality. Then perhaps you'd have a better understanding of these situations.
That is a perfect example of aimless wandering. Beyond the metagame-y compulsion to go into every available market or kiosk at a hub, who would think to go to a shop?
Well, if it pleases you, just chalk it up as an example of dodgy quest design. It's not like Bioware used that again in ME.
Well, if it pleases you, just chalk it up as an example of dodgy quest design. It's not like Bioware used that again in ME.
It's not dodgy quest design at all.
It's not dodgy quest design at all.
I have no stake in this fight either way.
I don't actually have any real complaint on the quest design. I was simply remarking on how it was weird that you couldn't threaten Anoleis. He didn't strike me as being particularly more important than the other people you can threaten in the series. Besides, the fact that he's under investigation by an internal affairs agent indicates to me that the board might just approve of him being rubbed out anyway.
That Eclipse girl who murdered the volus in Samara's recruitment mission. I fell for her act because of being able to overhear her whimpering through a closed door. Totally gonna kill her next time.
I don't actually have any real complaint on the quest design. I was simply remarking on how it was weird that you couldn't threaten Anoleis. He didn't strike me as being particularly more important than the other people you can threaten in the series. Besides, the fact that he's under investigation by an internal affairs agent indicates to me that the board might just approve of him being rubbed out anyway.
That's probably because the renegade option is to work with him.
Would I be correct in guessing it boils down to little more than players' hysteria at the premise of 'their Shepard' losing an important fight?
No, not correct. The fact that BW made Shep lose the fight in Thessia makes no difference for me. Even if Shep would have won or even is she would have been able to save Thane, I still would hate Kai Leng with passion. It's the whole character; not some possible blow on Shepard's ego.
That Eclipse girl who murdered the volus in Samara's recruitment mission. I fell for her act because of being able to overhear her whimpering through a closed door. Totally gonna kill her next time.
Me too, first time.
That Eclipse girl who murdered the volus in Samara's recruitment mission. I fell for her act because of being able to overhear her whimpering through a closed door. Totally gonna kill her next time.
I would have arrested her if possible, but I never kill her. The volus was a criminal who sold a dangerous drug to her (and her friends), without informing them of its toxicity. I don’t think that she deserves to die for shooting him.
Considering the circumstance killing her can only be seen as a perfectly justified act of self-defence, no competent military officer would risk their lives and the lives of their men for the possibility that an armed criminal may or may not pull the trigger.
I shoot Elnora as well. She seems to enjoy the fact she killed the Volus according to the audio log. So, I enjoy killing her
Considering the circumstance killing her can only be seen as a perfectly justified act of self-defence, no competent military officer would risk their lives and the lives of their men for the possibility that an armed criminal may or may not pull the trigger.
Indeed. A weapon is trained on anyone with a brain, you shoot, and you shoot to kill. Doesn't matter who it is.
I would have arrested her if possible, but I never kill her. The volus was a criminal who sold a dangerous drug to her (and her friends), without informing them of its toxicity. I don’t think that she deserves to die for shooting him.
I shot her because she pulled a gun on me after trying to fool me with her little act. She reaches for her gun before the renegade interrupt appears. I always take it.
I hit the renegade interrupt when the camera showed her drawing her weapon. Not gonna use meta-knowledge about the recording to justify it, it was as simple as self-defense.That Eclipse girl who murdered the volus in Samara's recruitment mission. I fell for her act because of being able to overhear her whimpering through a closed door. Totally gonna kill her next time.
No, not correct. The fact that BW made Shep lose the fight in Thessia makes no difference for me. Even if Shep would have won or even is she would have been able to save Thane, I still would hate Kai Leng with passion. It's the whole character; not some possible blow on Shepard's ego.
Don't tell that to Blob. He's convinced that he alone holds all the heroic answers and understands the art of narrative video game design and storytelling. His answers here have been nothing short of lolworthy.
Considering the circumstance killing her can only be seen as a perfectly justified act of self-defence, no competent military officer would risk their lives and the lives of their men for the possibility that an armed criminal may or may not pull the trigger.
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