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[kamal_]

Put your stuff on both. It's not so hard. I copy over the descriptions, use the same pictures, etc.

[PJ156]

That's a fair point but may also lead to dilution and lack of focus. To have to search one place or another for something may equally stop someone from making the effort. A one stop shop is my preference but that is not to say I would not post to the Nexus and the vault. If I want people to see my work I would be foolish not to use all the resources available. In time the Nexus will develop a history of it's own.

 

I have often pondered why the NWN1 community did not migrate, perhaps your assessment is correct.

 

PJ

[Tchos]

I admit I'm a bit remiss in heeding my own advice, since I have not yet put my own mods on the new Vault, but I've always planned to.  When the old Vault was up, they were both there and on the Nexus.  In the past week I even posted something on the new Vault that I haven't gotten around to posting on the Nexus.    And if a third option emerges, I'd want to post there as well.

[Eguintir Eligard]

Vault ii gets my donation if the time comes. Nexus gets its own cash from other communities, Vault two would have zero without nwn donations

[MERP_UK]

It's always more legwork having to upload and manage multiple locations, but then it does help to get your work seen and hopefully in turn we can all benefit if we can get a few more people interested in NWN2 modules.

[Arkalezth]

I feel that the NWNII vault deserves our support since we have invested time and effort into it creation

 

So does the Nexus. There were no plans for a NWN section and it was created at our request. If that doesn't deserve our support (in a way, perhaps even more, since someone else was asked to do the job), I don't know what does. It's already disappointing that many authors haven't uploaded their work there - one of the conditions for its creation was that enough files would be uploaded in order to make it worth-wile, and there are far less than some of us were expecting.

 

BTW, I'm not getting any of those issues. Still no mention of the endorsements, nor ads (I use Adblock Plus, maybe that's why)... Everything looks as it used to do.

[Eguintir Eligard]

Nexus seems to have more than vault ii so far how can they say its not worth while.

[Eguintir Eligard]

It's not on my computer anymore in full, thought it was.

[kamal_]

I have often pondered why the NWN1 community did not migrate

PJ

When the old vault when down and we asked the Nexus owner if we could have a Nexus (and he came to this site and asked us we wanted in one), the request came from nwn2 people. We crossposted in the nwn1 bioware forums asking them to start submitting but got little response. So a bit of not invented here and stubbornness and change is bad and "i dont like x about nexus", plus the old vault came back fast enough that people could pretend that vault death wasnt an issue.

There is still pretending things will be ressurected on old vault death this time, but it finally seems to be starting to sink in for people and we're getting a steady flow of migration to new vault now thanks to people uploading from both communities. It helps that the new vault admins are mostly from the nwn1 community, so getting the nwn1 community on board was easier this time.

Even if old vault comes back, which I dont think will happen despite the statement on the old vault page, my content is no longer going there as I dont see them actually fixing many of the behind the curtains issues like pictures and malware filled admin pages. Only new vault and nexus for my stuff.

[Arkalezth]

Nexus seems to have more than vault ii so far how can they say its not worth while.

 

I'm referring to these posts by Dark0ne (the Nexus' admin):

 

http://forum.bioware...ypse/?p=7749287

 

http://forum.bioware...ypse/?p=7968047

 

Read the posts after the latter and you'll see how several of us replied with a: "Oh, definitely, a crapload of files will likely be uploaded in no time, given the sheer amount of modules and community creations out there."

 

That didn't happen.

[Tchos]

Yes, you can count me as one of the optimistic ones.

 

I must say at least that I'm glad the alternative of "some guy hosting a page of links to people's Dropbox/Sendspace/Rapidshare/Megaupload mods" didn't prevail.

[PJ156]

I may have misrepresented myself. I am not anti Nexus in any way but I am pro vault II. I am grateful for the inclusion of NWN2 into the Nexus and I will continue to upload to both as I want my mods to be seen. I hope the nexus people see enough value in our presence not to consider pulling the plug. 

 

My original proposition was that extra content on nexus had to to be paid for but that proved false (second log in, who saw that coming). With that aside the two sites are equivalent, however Vault II is ours and ours alone and that means a lot to me, enough to make it the sole recipient of any cash that I have spare to support the community.

 

Any optimism I had concerning the IGN vault is gone now. Even if it came back I would be unsure of it's longevity so that duck is dead in my opinion.

 

PJ

[rjshae]

I like the Nexus site, but I don't think it'll become the mass repository for NWN2 that the old Vault was. I just wouldn't be comfortable for migrating other people's content there, whereas the new Vault allows for ownership transfer and thus it seems okay for transferring content there.

[Tchos]

Correct -- you would need the original author to have stated at some point that it's okay to repost his/her work elsewhere in order to upload someone else's content onto the Nexus, and that is an inherent limitation to the amount of content that can be put on there. 

 

The only thing that makes me mostly okay with doing it on the new Vault is accepting Rolo's statement that his status as an affiliate of IGN gives his repository equivalent status to the Vault itself, and that it's not "really" uploading it "somewhere else" without the original authors' permission in that case.  I would not be okay with it otherwise, because I want to see the wishes of the individual uploaders to be respected, and confirmed before taking actions in their name. 

 

I may lean toward accepting this statement further because it aligns with my desire for work and resources to be preserved and maintained, and my own selfish desire to continue to have access to things.

[Eguintir Eligard]

Nexus seems to be peoples default when releasing. Or nexus plus vault one. I was concerned nexus was going to kill vault two. Of course all my work will go on both. But it's definitely worth their while we already have more mods there than some of their preexisting games and they didn't pull their plugs.

[rjshae]

The only thing that makes me mostly okay with doing it on the new Vault is accepting Rolo's statement that his status as an affiliate of IGN gives his repository equivalent status to the Vault itself, and that it's not "really" uploading it "somewhere else" without the original authors' permission in that case.  I would not be okay with it otherwise, because I want to see the wishes of the individual uploaders to be respected, and confirmed before taking actions in their name.

 

I try to respect the owners permissions as much as possible when transferring content by setting up the flags appropriately. But unless it explicitly states that we can't migrate it to a new repository (or the original owner is still around to ask) I don't see a need to hold off.

[rjshae]

I'm trying to get in the habit of transferring over a few entries from the ftp repository to the new Vault each day. It gets me familiar with all of the old, available material and over time I'll get quite a bit of content stood up. Right now I'm focusing on the Hall of Fame modules and hakpacks. If you have some specific requests, please let me know.

 

I do wish the other people transferring content would also try to pull the screen shots and spend a few moments cleaning up the format. That can add a lot to the attractiveness and draw of the material.

[Tchos]

I do wish the other people transferring content would also try to pull the screen shots

 

I have all screenshots for all modules that were on the Vault.  If you happen to need certain ones.

[rjshae]

I have all screenshots for all modules that were on the Vault.  If you happen to need certain ones.

 

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

 

Now that so many projects are being ported over, it does make the new Vault a more interesting place to visit. There's always additions showing up on the list. What's old is new again...

[4760]

I have all screenshots for all modules that were on the Vault.  If you happen to need certain ones.

 

In that case, I'd need the screenshots for the series "Les ombres de la toile" and "Le phylactere sombre" by Ambryum.

[Tchos]

A correction to my original statement -- I have screenshots for all NWN2 modules that were on the Vault.  I looked for the ones you specified, and was surprised not to find them even though I included the international modules, until I saw that they're NWN1 modules.  Sorry about that.