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[JasonPogo]

There was more to it than that but yeah whatever. No matter what I personally will be pissed if it turns out Alistair is Fiona's kid. If so Meric and Duncan are both idiots and owe Fiona some big apologies.

[Former_Fiend]

But Eamon didn't promise anything.

 

Damnit, Eamon; you had one job!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

There was more to it than that but yeah whatever. No matter what I personally will be pissed if it turns out Alistair is Fiona's kid. If so Meric and Duncan are both idiots and owe Fiona some big apologies.

Well, can't blame Maric since he was kind of captured and missing for a few years when all the oath-breaking happened.

[Former_Fiend]

I'm decently sure that Alistair knew he was Maric's kid well before Maric went missing. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm decently sure that Alistair knew he was Maric's kid well before Maric went missing. 

And if not by then, Eamon probably told him when Maric disappeared. 

[KC_Prototype]

We can assume so. We know that Leliana and Cassandra had plans to start the Inquisition at the end of DA2 but the veil tear just pushes that into full swing. And we know Cass rather be apart of the Inquisition then fine a new Divine so it looks like the Chantry took a big hit in personnel and I assume at least Rhys, Fiona and Evangeline are dead.

[KC_Prototype]

Please, Alistair isn't a knife ear's son. He is the son of a serving maid and King Maric.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Seems a bit silly for Wynne to die for her spirit to go into Evangeline so she die five minutes into the game....

 

But I won't cry about it.  While I liked the characters, I wouldn't be broken up over it too much.

You can save redcliff... doesn't matter they die anyway in Inquisition

You can kill leliana.... doesn't matter she is alive anyway

You can kill oghren... doesn't matter he is alive anyway

You can kill flemeth... Doesn't matter she is alive anyway

You can send anders on his execution and justice can die... doesn't matter they are alive and merged anyway oh and anders is grey warden as well no matter what.

Well and pretty much entire dragon age 2 main plot follows that rule...

 

I don't think that wynne sacrifice would stop her from being killed off-screen.

She still have greater chance of being alive than Rhys , divine or Fiona.

[Former_Fiend]

Anyway, as to the original topic, I think Evangeline might be safe. She isn't really part of the mage leadership and they might decide not to bring her so as to avoid inflaming the Templar's...tempers by bringing a traitor along. Sure, she and Rhys are in a relationship, but they're hardly attached at the hip.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Anyway, as to the original topic, I think Evangeline might be safe. She isn't really part of the mage leadership and they might decide not to bring her so as to avoid inflaming the Templar's...tempers by bringing a traitor along. Sure, she and Rhys are in a relationship, but they're hardly attached at the hip.

Well...

 

usually they aren't attached at the hip. 

[JasonPogo]

Anyway, as to the original topic, I think Evangeline might be safe. She isn't really part of the mage leadership and they might decide not to bring her so as to avoid inflaming the Templar's...tempers by bringing a traitor along. Sure, she and Rhys are in a relationship, but they're hardly attached at the hip.

 

Ah but the Templars prob won't even be at the summit.  They and the Chantry are not on good terms.

[Former_Fiend]

My impression was that the summit was between the templars and the mages with the chantry acting as a neutral party.

[AresKeith]

I can.

The Mages and Templars are fighting in Ferelden. Alistair if King shows up to try to talk both sides down or talk things over with the winning side after the war is dealt with. After the discussion she can say something like "he is definitely his father's son" or something.

That wouldn't really mean he's her son though, pretty much everyone knows he's Maric's son now and she personally knew him

[DarthLaxian]

So the storyline we know of is that the game opens with a summit of all the Chantry and Mage leaders getting killed off. So dose this mean that Rhys and the characters from Asunder will all be killed off in the games opening? Seeing as they would all be there for the summit.

 

Great...I would have loved to have Fiona on my team (even if she can't join the party...though that would have been really lovely, I love her character)

 

Though, it's not all bad:

 

At least that whiner (Rhys) gets the short end of the stick, too (I hated that character in "Asunder" -.- he knows something will be going down (you have to be dumb not to), but he still wants to talk instead of taking action -.-)...I am sad about the rest though (at least if that happens, we don't know any details...some might survive (maybe in critical condition, in order to show up later in the game - injuries would explain nicely while some characters only appear later)

 

mfg LAX

ps: No, you don't need to be a fanatic (and want to kill all templars) in order to chose Adrian over Rhys (she never said that wanted that, she just wanted to stand up for her believes and fight on her terms - not on the templars's terms like what did happen because all the other mages wanted to talk instead of taking action)...she is not a cold blooded killer (!)...extreme maybe, but if you look at it, are the templars any different? (at least their leader isn't -.-)

pps: Why would a dead Divine and a mage leader (Fiona) that is alive look like the mages are favoured? - The Divine was actually a bit biased in favour of the mages (not that she was entirely for them...she was between both groups and probably felt sorry for the underdog (mages))...what you are talking about would be if the templar leader (which is not the Divine anymore, the Nevarran Accords are broken, the Templars are no longer part of the chantry, remember!) would live and the mage one being dead (and vice versa...)

ppps: (yeah, many post scriptums ^^) I hope they only kill the Divine...because deciding between the head templar and the head mage (if you can't negotiate some sort of settlement or strong-arm them), with both offering you their arguments etc. (you being the arbiter in this dispute, like with the landsmeet)...and both being passionate etc. that would be a classic moment (and very emotional...with the one you decide against - note: i would want a third way here (like the Geth/Quarian thing in ME3) - yelling you betrayed them, you will be sorry, crying or even trying to kill you...man, that's quite something

[CapivaRasgor]

After all that pre-release talk about Commander Shepard being on trial in the beginning of ME 3 and what the beginning of the game was actually like, i.e no trial whatsoever, I'm a little skeptical about a summit will really be going on at the start of DA: Inquisition.. I know the writing staff is different from one franchise to the other but still.. I'm more on the "wait and see" stance on this.

On to the topic, I believe that all of them or if not the majority of the characters from Asunder will be at the summit but I don't believe that all of them will die. I don't think this whole will play out like "Here, lets discuss the ongoing hostilities betwee- WTF IS THAT GREEN LIG--*BOOM*". I believe that there will be some commotion that will interupt the talks at a critical point, and then the situation escalates and hell breaks loose, perhaps giving a window to some characters escape, and then comes the explosion.

That being said, I think that the one character that is likely to die is Justinia V, she seems to fill the same role Elthina filled in DA 2 during the ongoing tensions between mage and templar: that of compromiser, the middle-ground. Her death would symbolize the end of the chance at peace and escalate the Mage-Templar conflict throughout Thedas.

As for Fiona being Alistair mother, if she is than I hope we get a chance of confirming it and reuniting them (much like it was with Liara and Aethyta in ME), if he is not, well.. I would be disappointed if they didn't show this other bastard child at some point.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Devs said that inq is only 1 survivor so well if someone was at conference there very little i would say even none chance that they are alive.I doubt that they would escape that it looks like anders bomb but even on larger-scale.For sure there will be divine and she will die as we know that chantry lost leader/s and i can see mage leader so here we have fiona unless she went "fu** divine" again so she might have survive but then probably rhys will be one who will take her fate.

 

Well about fiona being alistair mother well i have feeling that she is but rly hope that they won't just meet or know that i don't won't more soap opera we already have ridiculous numbers of connections that characters in da universe have and it feels if universe was circled around them and that Thedas have only hundreds of peoples in it.  

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I thought the whole point of the explosion was that the Mage and Chantry leadership is eliminated so that both sides are thrown into chaos. If Fiona is alive that wouldn't be the case.

[VilhoDog13]

I'm curious to know if the inquisitor is a random soldier or someone of notable reputation.

OT: I just hope I have a chance to kill off Adrian. Please let her resort to blood magic resulting in her death. Her entire character was annoying.

But if I had to choose one character to be alive - it'd definitely be Evangeline. I actually wish she'd be a part of the inquisition instead of Blackwall or Cullen.

[Gervaise]

Strangely enough it is almost as if Anders' bomb was meant to have triggered the whole thing but then someone realised that killing Elthina wouldn't be enough to push everyone over the edge, nor even the annulment of the Kirkwall Circle.    It did seem very much a foreshadowing though.      The Grand Cleric died, the First enchanter died and the Knight Commander died - so the heads of all factions were suddenly removed as the result of a magical explosion.

 

Scroll on to the start of Inquisition.  There is an enormous magical explosion (hell it must be big for thousands to die in it).   The Chantry loses its leadership - so Justina is definitely gone.   I'm sure I heard (or read) that the other factions lost their leadership too at the same time.   Makes sense if this was a peace conference.    So by rights it should be Fiona and whoever replaced Lambert.      In Asunder, Adrian was practically joined at the hip to Fiona and always seems to want to get herself involved if anything big is going on, so there is a good chance she might have gone with Fiona.

 

However, I doubt Rhys and Evangeline would be there.   Fiona had said she would work to the majority decision.    If a peace conference has been called and Fiona is in attendance, it is because the heads of the Fraternities agreed to it.   But I very much doubt they would all go too in case it was a ploy to trap them.   They would stay back at Andoral's Reach or wherever they had moved on to, to await developments.     When news comes back it is going to be very fragmented and confused.   Both sides will probably end up blaming the other and thus it becomes a free for all.   

 

Note: May be Cole comes to the Inquisitor on behalf of Rhys to find out about the Inquisitor's intentions, or even without Rhys' knowledge but still with Rhys' interests at heart.  

[Gervaise]

I just had a look at the quote from Cole.   It sure looks as though something has happened to Rhys and Evangeline since he says he misses them and they were his friends (past tense).    However, it could just be that they have gone into hiding and he doesn't know where to find them.   He didn't go to Andoral's Reach and he might even assume that Rhys and Evangeline died at the peace summit, without actually knowing it for a fact.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I thought the whole point of the explosion was that the Mage and Chantry leadership is eliminated so that both sides are thrown into chaos. If Fiona is alive that wouldn't be the case.

Wasn't fiona one who wanted rebellion?

[General TSAR]

Rhys and that that traitor dying wouldn't upset me.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I think so, but isn't she the one holding the Mage Rebellion together as a single entity? If she was willing to attend a peace summit, it sounds like she'd need to be eliminated if someone wanted chaos. Or at least there would be more chaos with the Mage Rebellion decapitated than not.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I think so, but isn't she the one holding the Mage Rebellion together as a single entity? If she was willing to attend a peace summit, it sounds like she'd need to be eliminated if someone wanted chaos. Or at least there would be more chaos with the Mage Rebellion decapitated than not.

Well not necessarily it had to be her she isn't fan of the divine or chantry and is one who want separate from chantry while i can see her there it would be 50/50.After what i saw mages are so unstable i don't think that anyone can control them i can see more than few pulling that .Circle doesn't exist anymore i can see mages split on groups even by fraternites loyalists would say screw you to fiona and even perhaps they were one who went on negotiations. I rly can't see libertarians there.

[Mr.House]

Mages are not one faction people. There are going to be many leaders at this thing because Rhys and Fiona would not work together at all as they would clash nonstop. It makes sense there are many mage factions and their leaders along with the Divine are there and they all die.

 

If Fiona survives the blast....