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For all my fellow sci-fi fans out there: The Fermi paradox.


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http://www.iflscienc...-climate-change

 

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By David Waltham, Royal Holloway

Enrico Fermi, when asked about intelligent life on other planets, famously replied, “Where are they?” Any civilisation advanced enough to undertake interstellar travel would, he argued, in a brief period of cosmic time, populate its entire galaxy. Yet, we haven’t made any contact with such life. This has become the famous "Fermi Paradox”.

Various explanations for why we don’t see aliens have been proposed – perhaps interstellar travel is impossible or maybe civilisations are always self-destructive. But with every new discovery of a potentially habitable planet, the Fermi Paradox becomes increasingly mysterious. There could be hundreds of millions of potentially habitable worlds in the Milky Way alone.

This impression is only reinforced by the recent discovery of a “Mega-Earth”, a rocky planet 17 times more massive than the Earth but with only a thin atmosphere. Previously, it was thought that worlds this large would hold onto an atmosphere so thick that their surfaces would experience uninhabitable temperatures and pressures. But if this isn’t true, there is a whole new category of potentially habitable real estate in the cosmos.

Finding ET

So why don’t we see advanced civilisations swarming across the universe? One problem may be climate change. It is not that advanced civilisations always destroy themselves by over-heating their biospheres (although that is a possibility). Instead, because stars become brighter as they age, most planets with an initially life-friendly climate will become uninhabitably hot long before intelligent life emerges.

The Earth has had 4 billion years of good weather despite our sun burning a lot more fuel than when Earth was formed. We can estimate the amount of warming this should have produced thanks to the scientific effort to predict the consequences of man-made greenhouse-gas emissions.

These models predict that our planet should warm by a few degrees centigrade for each percentage increase in heating at Earth’s surface. This is roughly the increased heating produced by carbon dioxide at the levels expected for the end of the 21st century. (Incidentally, that is where the IPCC prediction of global warming of around 3°C centigrade comes from.)

Over the past half-billion years, a time period for which we have reasonable records of Earth’s climate, the sun’s surface temperature increased by 4% and terrestrial temperatures should have risen by roughly 10°C. But the geological record shows that, if anything, on average temperatures fell.

Simple extrapolations show that over the whole history of life, temperatures should have risen by almost 100°C. If that were true, early life must have emerged upon a completely frozen planet. Yet, the young Earth had liquid water on its surface. So what’s going on?

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The answer is that it us not just the sun that has changed. The Earth also evolved, with the appearance of land plants around 400m years ago changing atmospheric composition and the amount of heat Earth reflects back into space. There has also been geological change with the continental area steadily growing through time as volcanic activity added to the land-mass and this, too, had an effect on the atmosphere and Earth’s reflectivity.

Remarkably, biological and geological evolution have generally produced cooling and this has compensated for the warming effect of our ageing sun. There have been times when compensation was too slow or too fast, and the Earth warmed or cooled, but not once since life first emerged has liquid water completely disappeared from the surface.

Our planet has therefore miraculously moderated climate change for four billion years. This observation led to the development of the Gaia hypothesis that a complex biosphere automatically regulates the environment in its own interests. However, Gaia lacks a credible mechanism and has probably confused cause and effect: a reasonably stable environment is a precondition for a complex biosphere not the other way around.

Other inhabited planets in the universe must also have found ways to prevent global warming. Watery worlds suitable for life will have climates that, like the Earth, are highly sensitive to changing circumstances. The repeated cancelling of star-induced warming by “geobiological” cooling, required to keep such planets habitable, will have needed many coincidences and the vast majority of such planets will have run out of luck long before sentient beings evolved.

However, the universe is immense and a few rare worlds will have had the necessary good fortune. It may just be that Earth is one of those lucky planets – a precious, fragile jewel in space. So, perhaps inevitably, climate change will remain a bane of the continued existence of life on such planets.

 

David Waltham is the author of Lucky Planet (http://davidwaltham.com/lucky-planet/).

This article was originally published on The Conversation. Read the original article."

 

It's an interesting hypothesis. It's high time mankind made a real effort to get out into space and solve the Fermi paradox.


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First we can just about get out of Earth’s atmosphere so how are going to meet all these alien races?
Why would another alien race come to speak with primitives? Do we speak with animals or do we use them for food?

How do you know there is intelligent life in our galaxy? There could be intelligent life in other galaxies so why would they come to our galaxy?

Have no idea what this Fermi Paradox is but it sound like a silly idea to me.

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Do we speak with animals or do we use them for food?

 

We're capable of calculus.



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Fermi states from an assumption that intelligent life would fast and easily populate the entire galaxy.

The galaxy is HUUUUUGE.



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First we can just about get out of Earth’s atmosphere so how are going to meet all these alien races?
Why would another alien race come to speak with primitives? Do we speak with animals or do we use them for food?

How do you know there is intelligent life in our galaxy? There could be intelligent life in other galaxies so why would they come to our galaxy?

Have no idea what this Fermi Paradox is but it sound like a silly idea to me.

 

It's quite possible any aliens out there are so advanced that we can't detect them, and they have no interest in talking to us, but we can't be sure of that. That's why we have the Fermi paradox. Until we can get out into space and find out what the deal really is, the hypothesis discussed in this article is every bit as plausible as the "aliens are hyper advanced and uninterested" one.

 

Distance is also a possible explanation, but again, in the absence of evidence, it's no more or less plausible than this one. 



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Would be pretty cool if we were Protheans. Centuries in the future, other civilizations find remnants of our civilization.



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I'd like the Human race to survive myself. Not sure if we will the way things are going though. There are a lot of hurdles we have to overcome.



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Do we speak with animals or do we use them for food?


You know what biologists do? They catch animals, drug them, tag them with radio trackers, measure them, take biological samples. The latest thing they do is take a stool sample, straight from the source - that's right, it's an anal probe. Then they track them for years and do it again. Sound familiar? ;)

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You know what biologists do? They catch animals, drug them, tag them with radio trackers, measure them, take biological samples. The latest thing they do is take a stool sample, straight from the source - that's right, it's an anal probe. Then they track them for years and do it again. Sound familiar? ;)


And how do you know that Aliens are not doing the same to us?

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What a coincidence, I was reading about this yesterday. For the curious here is a bit more information on the paradox: https://en.wikipedia...i/Fermi_paradox

 

In line with the fact we still don't know 100% about our homeworld, I like the line of reasoning under the heading "They are here unobserved".

 

Beyond that, I think it's still too early to draw conclusions. I'd be surprised, though, if Earth was the only planet in the vast universe capable of supporting life as we understand it.



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Fermi states from an assumption that intelligent life would fast and easily populate the entire galaxy.

The galaxy is HUUUUUGE.

 

And according to Fermi... very horny.



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Does the Fermi paradox take into account the possibility that, while theoretically possible, most alien civilizations ultimately decide that interstellar travel is not worth the cost in lives and resources?

 

I say "cost in lives" because, unless you're able to travel at a significant fraction of the speed of light, you probably can't go very far without "generational ships" and distant colonies that would have little or no meaningful contact with the presumably more developed homeworld. As intrigued as I am by space travel and the possibility of alien life, I don't think I would willingly sign up for such a mission when, in all likelihood, I wouldn't even live long enough to be there when we actually reach other solar systems. I suppose some sort of cryostasis is another theoretical possibility, but again, that means saying goodbye for good to anyone left behind, even if we're talking about species with longer life spans.

 

Or does the Fermi paradox posit that, whatever the obstacles, *somebody* would eventually take the leap if it's possible to do so?



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One possibility I've occasionally wondered about is whether an alien race with a more assertive version of Star Trek's "Prime Directive" might be not only avoiding contact with us, but intercepting any possible communications and other direct evidence of alien life and preventing them from reaching Earth because they do know about us but don't think we're ready to be part of whatever interstellar society currently exists.

 

It's certainly conceivable that the galaxy is fairly "lawless" - not in the sense of chaos or danger, but just that there are species exploring and contacting other species as they see fit without any real system governing what they can and can't do. If that were the case, and the question of lives and resources has been addressed to their satisfaction, then "why haven't they gotten here yet?" is a more compelling quandary. But it's also conceivable that a fairly cohesive interstellar society developed at some point and that they have enacted well-enforced laws about contacting non-spacefaring species, just like how humans have designated certain areas of Earth as conservation areas and enforce laws against disrupting the animals that live there. In that scenario, "why haven't they gotten here yet?" has a pretty clear answer: they have, they know we're here, and they're doing their best to keep us isolated for now.

 

Also, how well have we actually scanned and mapped, for example, moons of some of the more distant planets? What if aliens *did* come to the solar system and established a small base on, say, one of Neptune's moons, but eventually abandoned it or died out? Would we necessarily have discovered this in the course of the exploration of the solar system that we've carried out so far?



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My theory is that E.T.s are humans from the distant future who are sent back in time to observe mankind & try to avoid thier (our) fate (natural disaster/destruction of Earth or other planet). This explains why the craft disappear, why they often have humaniod characteristics & why they have yet to make contact. Statistically it is more likely than beings from across the galaxy... except the time-travel paradox..



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We might also just happen to be the first sapient species in existence. Someone has to be first. 

 

In general, people have a tendency to assume that just because something is improbable, it means it is impossible. But lots of improbable things can happen. Probability is just useful as a predictive tool. Sometimes, the actual explanation for why it seems like something really likely didn't happen is that something unlikely happened. 



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Fermi states from an assumption that intelligent life would fast and easily populate the entire galaxy.
The galaxy is HUUUUUGE.


And there very well could be a "Do Not Disturb" policy around civilizations that have not developed interstellar travel.

Or, perhaps, life is so common and widespread, we don't warrant attention. Perhaps we are, after all, just "Mostly Harmless" in the scheme of the entire galaxy.

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We might also just happen to be the first sapient species in existence. Someone has to be first. 
 
In general, people have a tendency to assume that just because something is improbable, it means it is impossible. But lots of improbable things can happen. Probability is just useful as a predictive tool. Sometimes, the actual explanation for why it seems like something really likely didn't happen is that something unlikely happened.


That seems highly unlikely.

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That seems highly unlikely.

 

It's totally unlikely. 

 

... I can't tell if we're having a serious conversation or you made a clever joke without more cues. :P



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It's totally unlikely. 
 
... I can't tell if we're having a serious conversation or you made a clever joke without more cues. :P


I'd err on the side of caution and assume about 99% of what I say has at least a little of my tongue in the cheekal area.
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I'd err on the side of caution and assume about 99% of what I say has at least a little of my tongue in the cheekal area.

 

I'll just mentally add sarcasm tags, then. Also, "cheekal" area?



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I'll just mentally add sarcasm tags, then. Also, "cheekal" area?


Yep. That's science.

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My theory is that E.T.s are humans from the distant future who are sent back in time to observe mankind & try to avoid thier (our) fate (natural disaster/destruction of Earth or other planet). This explains why the craft disappear, why they often have humaniod characteristics & why they have yet to make contact. Statistically it is more likely than beings from across the galaxy... except the time-travel paradox..

 

Well, even if aliens do exist, that doesn't mean that the contemporary reports of unidentified aircraft, alien abduction, crop circles, and the like are legitimate examples of alien activity. I am of the opinion that aliens probably do exist but probably have not visited Earth.



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It's totally unlikely. 

 

... I can't tell if we're having a serious conversation or you made a clever joke without more cues. :P

If you analyze a situation and the only answer you have left is totally unlikely but nothing else fits then the totally unlikely answer is the one until something better comes along.



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On a more serious note, this may be an indictment of FTL travel more than anything else. Or, perhaps, that if it is possible, the difficulty in either discovering it or, perhaps more likely, the massive amount of resources it may take.


Either way, we won't know until we travel to the closest star. That's when the fun starts.

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The universe is very big, a lot of species probably enjoy our hobbies of killing each other and being morons. It takes a lot of effort to get even a very short distance in space. I doubt global warming is killing everything off everywhere.

 

And maybe other intelligent species have looked at us and decided "we want nothing to do with those freaks".