Did you know that Juggernaut can get a 27.5% weapon damage boost where as the GT can get only 22.5% from his passives?
Wish the GJ had hunter mode too and headshot bonus. :/
He'd then be a true 'weapon platform'.
Yep. Hunter mode is what blows it out of the water. HM instead of Geth Turret would've been awesome.
I just throw a PPR on him and go to town. Seems to work pretty well regardless of build.
Well he didn't say anything really stupid and he didn't insult anyone...
Heck i bet i could top you with my Geth engineer GPR
just kidding....or not
How about you try to "top" me with a GPR GE?
If there are two tops, who's the bottom?
Uh? I didn't see many derogatory or uninformed opinions... Maybe you were talking about yours? Because if you meant to say that people saying the Juggy is not a good weapon platform are being derogatory and misinformed... Then you are the misinformed one, it would seem to me
A weapon platform is a class that picks up a weapon, and then only uses that weapon to kill the enemies, and at most powers that enhance such weapon. A *good* weapon platform is a class that does that in an efficient way.
So no, the Juggernaut is *not* a good weapon platform. If you just slap a heavy weapon on it and get done with it, you might as well be slapping the same heavy weapon on any adept or engineer. If you want to get it to perform even vaguely close to decent, you have to spam siege pulse. And therefore you're not playing it as a weapon platform anymore. And even then, you won't kill much if you're with a good team.
1, I never said many, I said the "usual suspects". Somehow you immediatly recognized yourself
2, Where did you read that I said the Juggy is a good weapons platform? Please quote. I said it is a f***ng powerhouse which it is.
3, Why do you feel obliged to spam derogatory comments in every thread which is not about drells or claymore?
4, Why do you feel obliged to insist on something which totally irrelevant to the thread? (i.e. whether the Juggy is good weapons platform or not)
5, Where is your help, your build, your expertise on the subject?
That post was in fact a gem. Proceeds to tell everyone they are being obtuse and derogatory in explaining that Juggy isn't the best weapons platform and recommending SP spam over weapons, and then posts siege pulse spam builds.
How far did you read my post? Also, see point 2, above.
And a snide remark from an outlier who feels like they're above it all. Now the thread is complete.
It is an observation and you have very little to disprove it. Also, it is far from complete
I laughed at "expert."
Laugh as you will, you never played with him, did you? Ignorance is a bliss.
Eh, not really.
OT: I much prefer the Siege Pulse spamming build than a pure weapons build, hostaman. The shield is quite handy when you're caught out in the open against long range enemies like ravagers and scions while I find the benefits of the turret to be negligible at best. I like to use a stagger weapon (normally the Falcon but the Venom and GPS are great too) to prime groups for a tech burst/ fire explosion although you might find an anti-armour sidearm is required for the bullet sponge bosses.
This is all for gold of course. On plat I could well believe the weapons build is superior.
PS: His stability bonus could favour the Incisor too
LOL
I probably shouldn't have used the term "weapons platform" when I basically meant "NOT melee".
I fully intend to spam the hell out of SP, I was just wondering how people spec the turret.
I've been running him as a real soldier, basically the same way I would the HSol, just a bit slower
This seems to work pretty well, I'm surprised more players don't play him this way. I mostly just see stationary Jugs just spamming heavy melee.
I'll definitely try the Crusader, and maybe the Incisor too just for laughs 
I think you can profit on the Juggy's unavaliability to take cover, and use the Harrier. I think it's simply the best weapon for him.
Other alternatives (by order of preference) would be the Saber and the Typhoon. But for the love of the Goddess, never use the Spitfire. Nobody. EVER. Today I played a Gold bout with a Spitfire-wielding Juggy, and I was so tired of how long it took him to kill enemies that I began targetting myself the ones he was shooting. I killed about 98% of them with my Saber. I hope he got the point of "Get a f&%$# REAL rifle!" that I wanted to show him 
If you spec for flame turret you can get lvl 6/6 fire explosions on unshielded enemies with siege pulse. Can be helpful against bosses and groups of mooks, but only in you're good at keeping an eye on when/who it's flaming.
@mega, oh, so reeger is ok on juggy in your books, not surprised.
OT: he is the worst possible weapon handler, please do not use the word "weapon platform". Ofc you can go incendiary ppr+reeger, try to believe it's his "powerfullnes" and not incendiary glitched damage.
Reegar + Juggy's slowness = Against good and quick players/snipers, you won't kill a damn.
Reegar + Juggy's slowness = Against good and quick players/snipers, you won't kill a damn.
Just stop before you hurt yourself.
I don't play with an entire team of good players very often bc.. well.. that's boring. I play with 1 other good player usually and two pug scrubs. Also.. if you read my post on page 1 you'd see I recommended Reegar and PPR/Typhoon.
That's why I explicitly said "Reegar Juggys against good and quick players/snipers". Learn to read and to not contradict others using the exact opposite arguments of what they said.
How about you GOML..That's why I explicitly said "Reegar Juggys against good and quick players/snipers". Learn to read and to not contradict others using the exact opposite arguments of what they said.
How about you GOML..
Have no taste for neckbeards. So I'll pass 
Reegar is ok on anyone.. I don't have issues with my 30fps console Reegar performance. I use the AP Reegar from time to time.. but I don't ever use the Incendiary Reegar.
It's the Hurricane, Acolyte+SMG combo and Talon I hate..
I think you can profit on the Juggy's unavaliability to take cover, and use the Harrier. I think it's simply the best weapon for him.
Other alternatives (by order of preference) would be the Saber and the Typhoon. But for the love of the Goddess, never use the Spitfire. Nobody. EVER. Today I played a Gold bout with a Spitfire-wielding Juggy, and I was so tired of how long it took him to kill enemies that I began targetting myself the ones he was shooting. I killed about 98% of them with my Saber. I hope he got the point of "Get a f&%$# REAL rifle!" that I wanted to show him
I strongly advise against the Harrier albeit a wonderfull weapon its not the weapon you want UNLESS your planning to camp near an ammo box when opting for the Geth Juggy. Your encounter with that Spitfire wielding Juggy is one of many who fail to crasp how to actually play him succesfully. And the spitfire doesnt take long to kill enemies. Puting emphasis on sustained fire this type of playstyle is perfectly suited for the Juggy and Geth trooper (flamerless) since they have way more shields then their relatives specially with a cyclonic you can take hits like a tank this will enable you to proceed and keep supressive fire without the direct need to seek cover. Hence the Spitfire is a definate recommended weapon for the Juggy and GT since it doesnt need frequent reloading your clip. Giving you enough time to take down enemies quickly. However Spitfire 1 is lacking one should atleast have level 5 or up. Generally when facing a large crowd of enemies say for example 3 centurions, 2 goons one phantom at medium distance the Spitfire can take them all out in one clip most of the times. A centurion and goon will most of the times dodge your barage of bullets this nets you easy time to take them out before they pose any danger to you if you toss in a turret beforehand makes it all easier.
The spitfire is NOT a weapon for BURST fires this is the main mistake it is suposses to be used as supressive fire without the need for reloading obviously to take advantage of this attribute one needs a class who can take a fair amount of incomming enemy fire imo these are the Juggy, GT and the destroyer. Try it you will see that most mooks WILL dodge your fire, after dodge its easy pie to go for headshots another easy task for the Spitfire. I cannot kill/destroy a Atlas phantoms and 2 or 3 mooks with just one clip with the harrier heck not even all clips BUT i will with the Spitfire.
It is if you amp it out to be. What I see is this:You really don't think the Reegar is OP?
Also, I seem to recall a thread a couple of weeks ago where you had to admit to trying the incendiary Reegar on the Krogan Soldier
I strongly advise against the Harrier albeit a wonderfull weapon its not the weapon you want UNLESS your planning to camp near an ammo box when opting for the Geth Juggy. Your encounter with that Spitfire wielding Juggy is one of many who fail to crasp how to actually play him succesfully. And the spitfire doesnt take long to kill enemies. Puting emphasis on sustained fire this type of playstyle is perfectly suited for the Juggy and Geth trooper (flamerless) since they have way more shields then their relatives specially with a cyclonic you can take hits like a tank this will enable you to proceed and keep supressive fire without the direct need to seek cover. Hence the Spitfire is a definate recommended weapon for the Juggy and GT since it doesnt need frequent reloading your clip. Giving you enough time to take down enemies quickly. However Spitfire 1 is lacking one should atleast have level 5 or up. Generally when facing a large crowd of enemies say for example 3 centurions, 2 goons one phantom at medium distance the Spitfire can take them all out in one clip most of the times. A centurion and goon will most of the times dodge your barage of bullets this nets you easy time to take them out before they pose any danger to you if you toss in a turret beforehand makes it all easier.
The spitfire is NOT a weapon for BURST fires this is the main mistake it is suposses to be used as supressive fire without the need for reloading obviously to take advantage of this attribute one needs a class who can take a fair amount of incomming enemy fire imo these are the Juggy, GT and the destroyer. Try it you will see that most mooks WILL dodge your fire, after dodge its easy pie to go for headshots another easy task for the Spitfire. I cannot kill/destroy a Atlas phantoms and 2 or 3 mooks with just one clip with the harrier heck not even all clips BUT i will with the Spitfire.
Let's see...the Juggy in question was playing exactly as you describe it's "best": no cover, and with a constant barrage of fire (no burst). I already told you the results.
Also, with good ammo management, headshots, and the Thermal clip mod, the Harrier has nearly 0 issues regarding ammo. And if so...well, that's what ammo clips are for. Also, it's reloading time is pitiful. If you think that "no-reloading" is an advantage the Spitfire has over the Harrier....oh, well...
And anyways I also think the Typhoon is a way better suppresive weapon. It's more accurate, causes more damage, and it's even better than the Harrier against boss-level enemies.
1, I never said many, I said the "usual suspects". Somehow you immediatly recognized yourself
2, Where did you read that I said the Juggy is a good weapons platform? Please quote. I said it is a f***ng powerhouse which it is.
3, Why do you feel obliged to spam derogatory comments in every thread which is not about drells or claymore?
4, Why do you feel obliged to insist on something which totally irrelevant to the thread? (i.e. whether the Juggy is good weapons platform or not)
5, Where is your help, your build, your expertise on the subject?
1.
Lots of uninformed opinions
It is if you amp it out to be. What I see is this:
I shoot a Possessed Scion in the face with my AP IV Reegar, the whole mag.. it does about half his armor worth of damage. I shoot the same enemy in the face with an AP IV Claymore.. it does just a hair less damage, but has a whole slew of other advantages.
No point in comparing mooks bc they both pretty much instakill mooks.
I also feel the AP IV Wraith performs about as well as the AP IV Reegar. It's really Incendiary ammo that makes Reegar so redonkulous.
Dafuq Mega? What kind of claymore do you have!?
Cause mine certainly doesn't bring a gold possessed scion down to half armour with one shot. Hell maybe on a GI, not even sure if you don't double hit it. On anything else... Just no.
To clarify: I didn't mean to join the discussion, but... Let's keep facts closer to reality, uh?
1.
Are you for real?
Well, for one yours is clearly uninformed so I do not see why are you upset so much?
2. You implied, by saying that the opinion of those saying it's not is uninformed. I might not be the smartest guy on the planet, but I still know how to do 2+2.
And indeed it turns out that your opinion is uninformed. What is the problem?
3. I don't. I sometimes do just to have some fun with people with a better sense of humour than you have. This time, for example, I didn't. I didn't argue that the Juggernaut is a shitty character although I think so, I just said that it's a bad weapon platform, which is not derogatory to anything or anyone in any form.
I have an excellent sense of humour and I enjoy our discussion very much
Also claiming that the Juggy is not a good weapon platfom is derogatory towards the Juggy. I do not want to go into the silly discussion of what is "good" and what is not but the Juggy is definitely a capable weapons platform, easily gold/plat viable without relying on the fire explosions/tech burst from ammo aplication + SP spam, in fact it is pefectly gold/plat viable without SP spamming at all.
4. ... Maybe because it's in the title? Learn to read before posting much?
I have read the title very carefully and the word "good" is not in that, around which your whole argument revolves.
5. Nowhere to be found.
I have no expertise whatsoever with the Juggy, and I'll be the first to admit it. If you ever see me giving advice on how to play that kit, know that I either just went insane, or someone just hacked into my account.
Yet, you still insist to show something on which you have no experience at all.
6. Happy now?
Let's just say I am amused.
Let's see...the Juggy in question was playing exactly as you describe it's "best": no cover, and with a constant barrage of fire (no burst). I already told you the results.
Also, with good ammo management, headshots, and the Thermal clip mod, the Harrier has nearly 0 issues regarding ammo. And if so...well, that's what ammo clips are for. Also, it's reloading time is pitiful. If you think that "no-reloading" is an advantage the Spitfire has over the Harrier....oh, well...
And anyways I also think the Typhoon is a way better suppresive weapon. It's more accurate, causes more damage, and it's even better than the Harrier against boss-level enemies.
Discribing someone and actually see some one playing are two different things i just had to take your description as true for that juggy player...
What level Spitfire did he use?
What experience did he had?
What N7 level did he had specialy that yellow points...
That dude could just be playing for diversity and fun.
Ive tried the harrier my self on the Juggy even tho its a wonderfull weapon on most other classes i regret to equiped it on the juggy and i tried a couple of times.
I also tried the Thypoon which is also a great weapon but there is a huge difference between the Spitfire and the Thypoon the ammo size is far less then that of the Spitfire. In my experience with both weapons the spitfire is both more effective and more accurate imo or its due to the massive amount of bullets in order to hit targets from close to medium to long range either way i like the Spitfire better then the harrier or thypoon on the juggy.
Here is me playing the GT with the spitfire on platinum just to give people an idea that the Spitfire is actually a great weapon and some pointers to the OP in regards of suppresive fire, that one can use with the juggy
Part 1 (skip to 1:13)
Part 2
And this is over a year ago (with an already max manifest in that video) i improved my style and effectiveness the juggy can play "like" that albeit you cant run so taking a good spot is a plus.
But all the above is personal preference if one likes the harrier or thypoon on the juggy then thats his good right to do so.
Krogan warlord is a good weapon platform, slap PPR and reeger on him.
Saboturian is a good weapon platform, slap a PPR/harrier and Talon on him
BatSent is a good weapon platform, slap Harrier on him
Errything can be claimed to be a good weapon platform. Good gun doesn't equal good kit. RTK, you clearly don't understand what does weapon platform mean.
And where is your help, your build, your expertise on the subject?
Krogan warlord is a good weapon platform, slap PPR and reeger on him.
Saboturian is a good weapon platform, slap a PPR/harrier and Talon on him
BatSent is a good weapon platform, slap Harrier on him
Errything can be claimed to be a good weapon platform. Good gun doesn't equal good kit. RTK, you clearly don't understand what does weapon platform mean.
Did you...did you just take a stab at the saboteur? I'll let you go this one time.
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