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[DuskWanderer]

Probably a strong, high-ranked demon, like Gaxkang, just one we haven't met yet

[Feybrad]

Corypheus? I seriously think, the bits that are uncovered strongly reek of someone like him. He has everything down - breaching the Fade already one time, tevinter connections, grey warden connections, being very much an elder...

[EmperorSahlertz]

I doubt it is Corypheus. Thematically speaking Corypheus would not be connected to a story of demons, but one of Darkspawn. I think it is far more likely that this "Elder One" is an ancient Arlathan Elf who has awoken from Uthenera, or maybe it is just an extremely powerful Fade entity.

[Heimdall]

I doubt it is Corypheus. Thematically speaking Corypheus would not be connected to a story of demons, but one of Darkspawn. I think it is far more likely that this "Elder One" is an ancient Arlathan Elf who has awoken from Uthenera, or maybe it is just an extremely powerful Fade entity.

Dingdingding!  Ancient elf!

[Elhanan]

Based on some lore in DA2, as well as the events with Merrill, I am considering that this may be ref Fen'Harel; the Dread Wolf and one of the Forgotten Ones. And this Fade tear may be the result of the supposed Dalish gods returning to their legendary battles again.

Or another thought; the Inquisitor is Fen'Harel; the one that moves between the Dalish gods freely from side to side, and was responsible for imprisoning them all in the first place.

[The Ascendant]

I think it's Felassan's master an Ancient Elf who lived for millennium in Uthenera, reawakening and trying to remake the world.

[Gearwarden]

It could be Fen'Harel...http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Fen'Harel

[azarhal]

It could be Fen'Harel...http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Fen'Harel

 

You know, I find it amusing that everyone paint Fen'Harel as some "big bad" when his most well known action was done to stop a war between two groups of entities that wanted to destroy each others. Especially when you compare it to how Elgar'nan, the god of Vengeance, main myth is that he tried to destroy the whole freaking world...

[Elhanan]

Not everyone; only as a possibility. As mentioned, this supposed god is to have played both sides; my reason for believing that he could be the Inquisitor himself. It seems to fit the idea of savior or destroyer behind the Inquisitor motif.

[CapivaRasgor]

It may be an ancient demon as someone said. But after finishing Masked Empire I have the impression that the ancient elves and their "deities" are going to play an antagonistic role in this game.

[thats1evildude]

One of the corrupted Tevinter magister lords who invaded the Golden City. Not Corypheus. Maybe the Architect.

[KC_Prototype]

It's either Cory or Dumat.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I doubt it is Corypheus. Thematically speaking Corypheus would not be connected to a story of demons, but one of Darkspawn. I think it is far more likely that this "Elder One" is an ancient Arlathan Elf who has awoken from Uthenera, or maybe it is just an extremely powerful Fade entity.

 

Why would a Tevinter Cult be working for an Arlathan elf? I think it would be more likely to be a demon or something to that effect.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Why would a Tevinter Cult be working for an Arlathan elf? I think it would be more likely to be a demon or something to that effect.

Well i heard once or two that elves were one who taught humans blood/magic (?) i don't know if it is truth or not , of course there is also version with dumat and blood magic.I think that it is some kind super mega Evil demon just because tevinter is involved...  

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I thought the version of the story with humans learning magic from elves was from captured elven captives.

[azarhal]

I thought the version of the story with humans learning magic from elves was from captured elven captives.

 

There is a codex somewhere that mention humans learning magic in Arlathan or among the elves, I don't remember elven captives. Even Masked Empire support humans walking around elven cities copying and learning what they knew.

 

There is 3 lore supported origins for humans learning blood magics:

- Elves (current belief of the Tevinter Magisters scholar)

- Forbidden Ones (Gaxkang, Xebenkeck, Imsheal, Formless One)

- Old Gods (old belief)

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The reference in the wiki to the elves teaching humans blood magic is from the Prima Guide. So it's unclear how much of that still applies to current Dragon Age lore. There are a few things that are different. World of Thedas only mentions Thalsian learning from the Old Gods. Although I think Velanna angrily accuses humanity of stealing knowledge of magic from elves.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Why would a Tevinter Cult be working for an Arlathan elf? I think it would be more likely to be a demon or something to that effect.

It is a cult. I don't presume to know their motivations. It doesn't seem rational to work with the demons either, but they do so aswell. I don't think rationality and logic are particularly motivating factors for the Venatori.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Still, demons kind of seem to command a higher place of respect in Tevinter's world than their ancient rivals who they crushed and enslaved. Most of the modern anti-elven sentiment that people seem to like to attribute to the Chantry had roots in the Tevinter Imperium.

[Gervaise]

I think what has been made clear in the last two novels is that Fade Spirits are a lot more varied than the Circle Mages definitions of them.   This is hardly surprising seeing as how limited their research into the matter would be with the Templars watching them like hawks.    Tevinter has been around far longer and except for a brief period under the Chantry, a lot less inhibited about what they do.   It stands to reason that they may know about powerful spirits that have not appeared in any lore we have read up to now.   Felassen was hinting at something when he persuaded Imshael to abandon his possession of the elf girl.   Since Imshael is himself a powerful spirit/demon, it follows that whoever or whatever Felassen was hinting at would be something Imshael could not have achieved himself but would clearly want to be involved in.   So whoever the Elder One is, it seems likely it is very powerful indeed.   It could be a being that we are already familiar with under a different name or someone else entirely.   

 

My money is still on an untainted old god.   We have yet to encounter one that was not corrupted.   It is connected in some way to dragons and in the Silent Grove, Yvanna talks about a time before the Fade when dragons were commonplace.    Flemeth is interested in the old gods.   She is a shapeshifter who can turn into a dragon.   What if the old god is a shapeshifter who can turn into a dragon?     When corrupted they get stuck in their dragon form.    It seems to me that an old god would be the most likely candidate that a modern day Magister would be willing to serve.   If the Fade has not always existed in its present form, may be it was the formation of the Veil that trapped the old gods beneath the earth and the only way out before the darkspawn reach them is to breach the Veil entirely.   Last time it was tried, Dumat tried to get the Magisters to break in.    This time the Veil is being damaged so the old god can break out.

[KC_Prototype]

Well i heard once or two that elves were one who taught humans blood/magic (?) i don't know if it is truth or not , of course there is also version with dumat and blood magic.I think that it is some kind super mega Evil demon just because tevinter is involved...

Naw, the Old Gods teaching humans blood magic seems more likely.

[PsychoBlonde]

Could just be Flemeth you know.  Or the dude's older brother.

[Heimdall]

Why would a Tevinter Cult be working for an Arlathan elf? I think it would be more likely to be a demon or something to that effect.

It might be that they're working against him and we're unknowingly hindering their attempt