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[Jasuke34]

I agree with Oohforf for the most part. Simply because what I want would never come about. I'm a libertarian IRL so I believe all people are equal. Arguing for mages to be treated differently is like...arguing for african americans in the US to all go to sports education for all their life. It's bigoted to act that way. I agree that mages possess the potential for great power, but they should be subjected to the same laws as every other human being.

[TheKomandorShepard]

You don't rise to power and become as powerful as the Divine being naïve. Lord-Seeker Lambert and Fiona/Adrian caused the war, the Divine wanted peace.

 

Also, I'm not so concerned about demonic possessions anymore. As we've seen, the veil has torn and demons are pouring in anyways, they have no need for a host now.

 

As Wynne said, Mages have always been pivotal in the battle against the Darkspawn. They are superior to Qunari technology. For every man a mage kills, some mage is healing or teaching somewhere else.

 

And if you don't want to fully explain yourself, atleast answer this; Why kill all of them? That solves nothing, other than forcing them to use the darkest magics to defend themselves. The mage will die, and anothing will be born across the world. Magic won't ever disappear, so killing every mage is impossible. What do you hope to gain from that, other than the deaths of thousands of mages and Templars and commonfolk?
 

Divine is face of the chantry it is like saying to become pope you need be godfather because you are in position of "power".And she perfectly showed that... Nope lambert was one who put down rebelion and mages divine send leliana that killed some templars and freed mages if she didn't intervened then (and it was only moment that lack of action would be good) war would never happened at least not in close time...

 

So? You will fix the veil and abomnations still are more powerful not mention that demons seek also human experience so mage= human experience and power for them. 

 

Yeah wynne and irving said that 7 mages are enough well they were crushed like almost in every battle that makes took part in...

 

How the hell killing them all solves nothing lets see...

1)abomnations? gone

2)Magical disasters? gone

3)demons apparence in real world reduced to critical minimum something about 90 % of demons comes because of mages.

4)insane blood mages and mages? gone

5)humanity will start advance technologically to fulfil their needs.

 

As i said mages can die and with proper policy we can have system that will remove mages (kill) systematically instead taking them to the circle where most mages end and now even with increased efficiency anti-mages will hunt them as instead most of anti-mages watching them will hunt them.

[StrangeStrategy]

Divine is face of the chantry it is like saying to become pope you need be godfather because you are in position of "power".And she perfectly showed that... Nope lambert was one who put down rebelion and mages divine send leliana that killed some templars and freed mages if she didn't intervened then (and it was only moment that lack of action would be good) war would never happened at least not in close time...

 

So? You will fix the veil and abomnations still are more powerful not mention that demons seek also human experience so mage= human experience and power for them. 

 

Yeah wynne and irving said that 7 mages are enough well they were crushed like almost in every battle that makes took part in...

 

How the hell killing them all solves nothing lets see...

1)abomnations? gone

2)Magical disasters? gone

3)demons apparence in real world reduced to critical minimum something about 90 % of demons comes because of mages.

4)insane blood mages and mages? gone

5)humanity will start advance technologically to fulfil their needs.

 

As i said mages can die and with proper policy we can have system that will remove mages (kill) systematically instead taking them to the circle where most mages end and now even with increased efficiency anti-mages will hunt them as instead most of anti-mages watching them will hunt them.

 

The Divine is the face of the Chantry? As in a figurehead? I assure you, she has real power. And Lambert certainly did not put down the rebellion; it started at the end of Asunder, not DA2. The Mages were asking for a split, which failed last time they voted, more were against it than for it. Then, before we have a chance to see if it will fail again, Lambert intervenes and killing starts. That forces the Aequitarians to choose to split off. Lambert started the rebellion with his actions. With help from Fiona and Adrian.

 

Demons can have human experiences without having to possess people. Remember the Demon and the charmed Templar in the Circle Tower?

 

1) Everytime you try to kill a mage, they panic and give into demonic possession to give them more strength. More abominations. Remember Olivia from DA2?
And another mage will be born after you kill this one.

2) Wrong. Mages will use everything they have to survive, and go out with a bang. You're creating fights by hunting them. And if you kill them, more mages will always be born.

3) The Veil can be thinned when many people are killed in one place, like the Brecilian Forest. Sometimes, Demons cross the veil unaided by mages, in their true form. Blackmarsh, Brecilian Forest, Dales, etc. So no, Demons will never be gone forever.

4) On the contrary, you must truly learn that hunting mages FORCES them to learn Blood Magic to defend themselves, because they want to live a peaceful life away from Templars. And what drives someone to insanity/desperate acts more than the threat of imminent death?

5) This has nothing to do with mages. The Mage's existence does not impede technology at all. The reason the Qunari have the most advanced tech is not because they bind their mages, it is because the Qun is extremely efficient and everyone performing their duties is very productive.

 

How will you find the new apostate? Parents will never send their children to the Circle now, since they know that means instant death. Now, instead of people willingly giving their children to the Circle for real education, you have parents hiding their apostate children away from the Templars. Soon, they'll mature and there will be an army of angry mages waiting for revenge. Also, some of those will turn into abominations because they never received the education the Circle could have provided.

Unless there is some test you can perform on a baby to see whether it has the gift or not and you can do this for every newborn in Thedas, your plan isn't even possible in the first place.

[TheKomandorShepard]

The Divine is the face of the Chantry? As in a figurehead? I assure you, she has real power. And Lambert certainly did not put down the rebellion; it started at the end of Asunder, not DA2. The Mages were asking for a split, which failed last time they voted, more were against it than for it. Then, before we have a chance to see if it will fail again, Lambert intervenes and killing starts. That forces the Aequitarians to choose to split off. Lambert started the rebellion with his actions. With help from Fiona and Adrian.

 

Demons can have human experiences without having to possess people. Remember the Demon and the charmed Templar in the Circle Tower?

 

1) Everytime you try to kill a mage, they panic and give into demonic possession to give them more strength. More abominations. Remember Olivia from DA2?
And another mage will be born after you kill this one.

2) Wrong. Mages will use everything they have to survive, and go out with a bang. You're creating fights by hunting them. And if you kill them, more mages will always be born.

3) The Veil can be thinned when many people are killed in one place, like the Brecilian Forest . Sometimes, Demons cross the veil unaided by mages, in their true form. Blackmarsh, Brecilian Forest, Dales, etc. So no, Demons will never be gone forever.

4) On the contrary, you must truly learn that hunting mages FORCES them to learn Blood Magic to defend themselves, because they want to live a peaceful life away from Templars. And what drives someone to insanity/desperate acts more than the threat of imminent death?

5) This has nothing to do with mages. The Mage's existence does not impede technology at all. The reason the Qunari have the most advanced tech is not because they bind their mages, it is because the Qun is extremely efficient and everyone performing their duties is very productive.

 

How will you find the new apostate? Parents will never send their children to the Circle now, since they know that means instant death. Now, instead of people willingly giving their children to the Circle for real education, you have parents hiding their apostate children away from the Templars. Soon, they'll mature and there will be an army of angry mages waiting for revenge.

Unless there is some test you can perform on a baby to see whether it has the gift or not and you can do this for every newborn in Thedas, your plan isn't even possible in the first place.

Haha and what is that real power she couldn't even do what she want to do she could only please others with her decision the moment she did something that chantry didn't liked was moment when she was left alone (not counting very few peoples who stayed loyal to her). Hell she couldn't even tell her opinion about elves publicly.Divine is pretty much figurehead she can make decisions as long that are decisions expected by chantry.Pretty much reason why she was sending her few peoples to search someone competent like the warden who will clean her mess. 

 

As i said mages wanted vote for freedom what divine allowed lambert interrupted and capture them what prevented war if divine didn't let mages escape there would be no war at all so well no...

 

1.And how they will do that when anti-mages will hunt them down and kill them especially childrens... lol it is templar job deal with mages and abomnations...

2.You keep repeating same thing that mages will be born so what most of mages still are captured despite most anti-mages is focused on watching them not hunting them so now instead sending them to the circle we kill them simple... 

3.Wrong very wrong Brecilian Forest was consequence of battles between tevinter and elves (both higly magical societes) so point for mages same for Blackmarsh.In fact only way for demon without mage to get to thedas is torned veil most examples of that we saw were because of mages well we have only one example when it was caused by non-mages and it is orphanage.And demon still isn't abomnation.

4.Eee so what? Blood mages are immortal we can kill them already before they cause damage before they will reach for blood magic for 1000 other reasons like sick mother , dead wife or power hunger... in fact very few mages we saw reached to blood magic because templars forced them... mostly reason is power hunger.

5.It does as hawke point to dwarf who want get qunari powder "why you need powder when you have magic" and he respond "you humans have magic we don't" it is no coincidence that qunari who hated mages and dwarves who don't have mages are most technologically advanced.

 

Do i have to say that most peoples hate mages? In fact many would kill mage themselves... There will be peoples who of course will do as you say but i have a lot ways to deal with such peoples and prevent it...

[KainD]

Sigh, people with different world views still insist on arguing who's opinion is better.

[themikefest]

Whenerver I played as a mage in DA2, I always sided with the templars. For the survey I checked that the restrictions should be lessened a bit.

[StrangeStrategy]

1.And how they will do that when anti-mages will hunt them down and kill them especially childrens... lol it is templar job deal with mages and abomnations...

2.You keep repeating same thing that mages will be born so what most of mages still are captured despite most anti-mages is focused on watching them not hunting them so now instead sending them to the circle we kill them simple... 

3.Wrong very wrong Brecilian Forest was consequence of battles between tevinter and elves (both higly magical societes) so point for mages same for Blackmarsh.In fact only way for demon without mage to get to thedas is torned veil most examples of that we saw were because of mages well we have only one example when it was caused by non-mages and it is orphanage.And demon still isn't abomnation.

4.Eee so what? Blood mages are immortal we can kill them already before they cause damage before they will reach for blood magic for 1000 other reasons like sick mother , dead wife or power hunger... in fact very few mages we saw reached to blood magic because templars forced them... mostly reason is power hunger.

5.It does as hawke point to dwarf who want get qunari powder "why you need powder when you have magic" and he respond "you humans have magic we don't" it is no coincidence that qunari who hated mages and dwarves who don't have mages are most technologically advanced.

 

Do i have to say that most peoples hate mages? In fact many would kill mage themselves... There will be peoples who of course will do as you say but i have a lot ways to deal with such peoples and prevent it...

1. Are you aware that a Templar being near a mage does not prevent the mage from turning into an abomination? Templars disrupt and resist magic, but its not 100% resistance. Nor can they interrupt powerful magic, like Blood or Demon magic. An Abomination is far stronger than a Templar; that's why Greagoir needed reinforcements from the Denerim Chantry. I also hope you realize that there is a cost to this, you cannot simply wage war on all mages without there being plenty of death from everyone, commonfolk included.

 

2. What do you mean, "watching them"? You can't watch every birthing. You never know who might be a mage. Killing one mage will deal with him/her, but another mage is being born. The problem never ends. Killing is not the solution.

 

3. I... couldn't exactly understand what you were trying to say here. No offense, is English your first language? I like the discussion we're having but I am having difficulty understanding. You are atleast correct in saying demons are not abominations; Demons are worse than abominations, they're actual demons. Same thing, different form. I'd rather fight mottled abominations in the shapes of humans rather than a fully materialized hulking Pride Demon, wouldn't you? As I said, death rips the fade open; the Orphanage is an even better example of that, thank you. And it was totally non-magical in origin.

 

4. Are you saying that mages don't resort to Blood Magic to defend themselves? That's simply not true. They do it because it will give them the power to fight the Templars. Some do it simply to have power (Mainly the Tevinter Magisters) but other mages like some in the Ferelden Circle and those we saw at the end of DA2 do it for self-defense. Playthrough DA2 again siding with the Templars, you'll see.

 

5. Of course it isn't. As I said, the Qunari are much more productive. Every member of their society works and has purpose. Magic has nothing to do with it, are you implying that the mere existence of mages means that humans are incapable of learning anything new?

You are correct in assuming that most people hate mages. You forget that one of the Templars duties is to protect mages from the common folk, just as they protect the common folk from mages. Its the reason why Mages are kept in towers with their own kind.

 

6. Couldn't help but notice that you did not mention how you would find every mage. As I said before, your plan isn't even possible if mages do not reveal themselves to you; children born mages will become apostates, hiding their magic until they are strong enough to fight. What then? You'll never be able to kill the mages. Please answer this, its core to your entire plan.

[StrangeStrategy]

Sigh, people with different world views still insist on arguing who's opinion is better.

 

Too often on the internet I assume every discussion is an argument; they usually aren't, people are perfectly capable of being civil even while anonymous on the internet

[KainD]

Too often on the internet I assume every discussion is an argument; they usually aren't, people are perfectly capable of being civil even while anonymous on the internet

 

The thing is a lot of these ( by all means not all, but a lot ) discussions are completely pointless. Person 1 likes oranges, Person 2 likes apples, only oranges and apples represent different sets of morals. 

[StrangeStrategy]

The thing is a lot of these ( by all means not all, but a lot ) discussions are completely pointless. Person 1 likes oranges, Person 2 likes apples, only oranges and apples represent different sets of morals. 

 

Well, oranges do taste way better. Just saying. Your sig is oddly appropriate for these threads, isn't it? xD

[BlueMagitek]

A reformat of the Circle system is in order. 

 

I think keeping the Apprentice in the Tower as they learn to control themselves, the Enchanter should have greater privileges (such as the ability to go out with Templars, perhaps for magical work elsewhere), and Senior Enchanters should have the capability to leave without escort; only needing to check in to the nearest Chantry/Circle and return.

 

Something like that would work better, I think.

[TheKomandorShepard]

1. Are you aware that a Templar being near a mage does not prevent the mage from turning into an abomination? Templars disrupt and resist magic, but its not 100% resistance. Nor can they interrupt powerful magic, like Blood or Demon magic. An Abomination is far stronger than a Templar; that's why Greagoir needed reinforcements from the Denerim Chantry. I also hope you realize that there is a cost to this, you cannot simply wage war on all mages without there being plenty of death from everyone, commonfolk included.

 

2. What do you mean, "watching them"? You can't watch every birthing. You never know who might be a mage. Killing one mage will deal with him/her, but another mage is being born. The problem never ends. Killing is not the solution.

 

3. I... couldn't exactly understand what you were trying to say here. No offense, is English your first language? I like the discussion we're having but I am having difficulty understanding. You are atleast correct in saying demons are not abominations; Demons are worse than abominations, they're actual demons. Same thing, different form. I'd rather fight mottled abominations in the shapes of humans rather than a fully materialized hulking Pride Demon, wouldn't you? As I said, death rips the fade open; the Orphanage is an even better example of that, thank you. And it was totally non-magical in origin.

 

4. Are you saying that mages don't resort to Blood Magic to defend themselves? That's simply not true. They do it because it will give them the power to fight the Templars. Some do it simply to have power (Mainly the Tevinter Magisters) but other mages like some in the Ferelden Circle and those we saw at the end of DA2 do it for self-defense. Playthrough DA2 again siding with the Templars, you'll see.

 

5. Of course it isn't. As I said, the Qunari are much more productive. Every member of their society works and has purpose. Magic has nothing to do with it, are you implying that the mere existence of mages means that humans are incapable of learning anything new?

You are correct in assuming that most people hate mages. You forget that one of the Templars duties is to protect mages from the common folk, just as they protect the common folk from mages. Its the reason why Mages are kept in towers with their own kind.

 

6. Couldn't help but notice that you did not mention how you would find every mage. As I said before, your plan isn't even possible if mages do not reveal themselves to you; children born mages will become apostates, hiding their magic until they are strong enough to fight. What then? You'll never be able to kill the mages. Please answer this, its core to your entire plan.

 

1.LoL it is not about prevention is is about killing them before or after they turn into one it is part of their job to hunt as well mages and abomnations it happened before and templars dealth with such situation even in codex entry one is described... Gregoir needed support because there were many abominations and attack was suprise and by that they were unprepared.When templars hunt mage they prepare themselves and have advantage.

 

2.By watching them i mean circle most templars is focused on watching mages in the circles and rest on hunting them and yet most mages is captured and draged to the circle.Without circle there won't be need for watching part so anti-mages will be focused 100 % on hunt part what will increase efficiency add to that other measures that i plan use.

 

3.Nope as it is said abomnation is more powerful it because it delivers power both for mage and demon pretty much reason why mage power adds to abomnation power as well demon power does. Orphanage is single example in fact only one as far not caused by mages with many examples of veil being torn by mages.And it is 1 of 3 ways that demon go through the veil and is rarest way for demon still almost dominated by mages.Other 2 way are only possible for mage to cause first is demonic possession and second is being summoned by blood mage and those are most often reasons why demons is there.Kill mages and it will as i said reduce so critical minimum and even then if demon pass it will be much weaker as it won't have mage as host at worst it will be human mostly rock/tree.  

 

4.Sometimes yes however as it shown it is rarely reason why they reach for blood magic mostly it is power hunger.As i said as far series goes we have only few Individuals that reached for blood mage because of templars and we have a lot blood mages.Simple not true uldred rebelion was because of his power hunger and desire for not being punished for his sinister researches.You mean that power hungry and insane mages in da 2? 

 

 

5.It is pretty much shows that if i can blow that with magic i don't have reason to found way to do that in another way simple example.Major reason behind technology is to fulfil human desires and needs.Pretty much you if you didn't need to eat or you could just create food with thoughts there would be no reason for technological progress in that matter.As cultures that despise mages or don't have them are more technologically advanced than those who have mages.In fact those cultures are only shown any intrest in technology humans and elves suck in that matter as far we are shown only dwarves and qunari are shown doing something in that matter. 

   

So what im pretty sure that part about protecting mages is there only to look pretty like ban on blood magic in tevinter.As far pretty much only Evangeline have such desire and that was rather because her naiviety.Pretty much that entire order went mage hunt shows that.To be honest i don't care about duty as long they are effective they aren't.True goal of templars was always to protect world from mages not mages from the world. 

 

6.As i said templars have to ways to found mage if they didn't they wouldn't have majority locked up in circles (an as i said that is when most of templars sit in tower and watches mages now we have 100 % focused on hunt part). Sooner or later mage powers manifest when they are young and they can't control that so pretty much to find such person isn't big problem and that most of society hates mages only helps.If spread proper propaganda and tell that things like that mages are evil or maker hates mages it will only help with that.Also laws that will punish those who protect or help mage so it will bring fear for those.Another part is that also offer reward for those who will help capture mage and a lot peoples need money.So we have hate ,religion ,fear and greed on our side and those are most powerful factors that you can use to maintain control.    

[Urazz]

First thing that needs to happen is that the anti-mage dogma the Chantry and Templars fed the populace at large needs to be broken and refuted and changed to a more moderate tone where not all mages are about to use blood magic or become abominations on the populace at large.  Some of them follows the saying of Andraste that magic is meant to serve man and want to use their powers to help their fellow man.  Others would rather not have their powers.

 

What also needs to happen is that the Circle needs to become more of a school than a prison like it currently is.  After a mage graduates, he/she will be allowed to leave the Circle but will have to send the Circle messages on their status updates like where they live, if anything of import happened to them, if they are going to go on a journey, etc.  One thing I think should remain is that mages should not be allowed to hold positions of power such as being king or lord for example.

 

Templars should be emphasized that they are to both protect and watch over the mages and protect the normal people from the mages abusing their power.  They won't be all stuck in a tower but will become a separate military branch of each kingdom.  I'm thinking something like a quasi military anti-mage City Guard that is better trained and geared than the regular City Guard that quartered in cities and in Circle Towers.

[Maria Caliban]

I agree with Oohforf for the most part. Simply because what I want would never come about. I'm a libertarian IRL so I believe all people are equal. Arguing for mages to be treated differently is like...arguing for african americans in the US to all go to sports education for all their life. It's bigoted to act that way. I agree that mages possess the potential for great power, but they should be subjected to the same laws as every other human being.

Because black people attract demons and are constantly in danger of losing their mind, gaining incredible powers, and slaughtering a couple hundred people before they're put down.

Oh wait...

[cjones91]

A reformed Circle is the best compromise.

[cjones91]

Because black people attract demons and are constantly in danger of losing their mind, gaining incredible powers, and slaughtering a couple hundred people before they're put down.

Oh wait...

So because one group of people may or may  not present a danger to themselves or others is justification for them being discriminated against?

[Eveangaline]

Massively reform the circles, get the chantry out of involvement with it, make it run by the countries it's in instead, allow much more freedoms to mages after they've reached adulthood, allow freedom to write and for families to visit. Maybe have multiple little circles across the country so it's easier for families to visit their kids since the kids would be taken to circles closer to where they live. Dissolve the Templars because they're too involved with the chantry, start a new type of policing mages that's state run instead of chantry, and has mages in the order as well as non-mages.

[cjones91]

Massively reform the circles, get the chantry out of involvement with it, make it run by the countries it's in instead, allow much more freedoms to mages after they've reached adulthood, allow freedom to write and for families to visit. Maybe have multiple little circles across the country so it's easier for families to visit their kids since the kids would be taken to circles closer to where they live. Dissolve the Templars because they're too involved with the chantry, start a new type of policing mages that's state run instead of chantry, and has mages in the order as well as non-mages.

This sounds like what I had in mind but I would reform the Templar order by getting rid of the zealots and extremists.

[Kimarous]

TheKommanderShepard fails to recognize that people will probably become a lot more sympathetic to mages if you start butchering them where they stand. Child exhibits magical prowess, Templar promptly runs him through - I think the reaction is more likely to be "You monster! You murdered that boy in cold blood!" instead of your perceived "Yay! Another potential mage dead!" What happens when your dread regime inevitably starts killing people - killing children - on the mere suspicion of being magical? People will grow more and more protective, and inevitably rise up. What happens when whole nations go to war against your religious organization killing people willy-nilly? What if they outright turn to the Qunari for help, because the notion of having their children live as weapons of war seems like the better option of watching them hacked down before their eyes?

[Maria Caliban]

So because one group of people may or may  not present a danger to themselves or others is justification for them being discriminated against?

Yes.

Do you know why people with automatic guns aren't allowed into most places of business or even in public depending on the location? Because they may present a danger to others. Do you know why people with some diseases are quarantined, whether they want to be or not? Because they may present a danger to others.

Racial, sexual, and religious minorities are no more inherently dangerous than racial, sexual, and religious majorities. Mages are more inherently dangerous than non-mages.

[TheKomandorShepard]

TheKommanderShepard fails to recognize that people will probably become a lot more sympathetic to mages if you start butchering them where they stand. Child exhibits magical prowess, Templar promptly runs him through - I think the reaction is more likely to be "You monster! You murdered that boy in cold blood!" instead of your perceived "Yay! Another potential mage dead!" What happens when your dread regime inevitably starts killing people - killing children - on the mere suspicion of being magical? People will grow more and more protective, and inevitably rise up. What happens when whole nations go to war against your religious organization killing people willy-nilly? What if they outright turn to the Qunari for help, because the notion of having their children live as weapons of war seems like the better option of watching them hacked down before their eyes?

Eh you made everything look so dramatic if i intend tie peoples to the chair and force them to watch.Simple take child away and then chop it head in discrete place.As long peoples won't see that they won't care.Besides i doubt that they don't have way to check if child is a mage pretty much im sure that templars have one without it they could say who is mage and who not.I mean that didn't stop peoples from killing city elves well because they can...  

[cjones91]

Yes.

Do you know why people with automatic guns aren't allowed into most places of business or even in public depending on the location? Because they may present a danger to others. Do you know why people with some diseases are quarantined, whether they want to be or not? Because they may present a danger to others.

Racial, sexual, and religious minorities are no more inherently dangerous than racial, sexual, and religious majorities. Mages are more inherently dangerous than non-mages.

 

Some are more inherently dangerous than others,that is why mages need training to control their power.Discrimination is what caused this mess to begin with,until mages are treated like people instead of potential disasters then nothing will change.

 

What's the point in mistreating a group of people who can rain fire and lightning on you instead of teaching them to control their gift?It's quite stupid if you ask me

[TheKomandorShepard]

LoL i have to give you point CJ kinda remind me how peoples are pri*** toward host that have inside superpowerful monster in naruto always laughed because of this.

[Ilidsor]

I agree that mages need some form of supervision but what goes on in the circles is just insane. Especially the way things were for the mages in Kirkwall before they rebelled. You can't treat people like that and expect them not to rebel. And of course it just drives more people to blood magic out of desperation.

 

I would keep the circles basically the same except I would give mages the ability to get templars that are far too bigoted or zealous fired. Some sort of board made up of mages and members of the chantry. You can't give one group complete control over another (while telling the controlling group that the others are all monsters to boot) without abuse happening.

 

Also mages should be allowed much more personal freedom, perhaps the ability to wander around the city until a curfew or really anything to make them not feel like they live in a prison. And tranquility should be banished for good. That ****'s just messed up.

 

Just my two cents.

[Joe25]

What would I do with the mages? First, I would ask if my slip was showing. Then, I would mage dance the night away.