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[SwobyJ]

Okay, I'm not as much into Dragon Age as I am into Mass Effect, so I didn't know about this.

 

 

I'm doing a Origins playthrough as my definitive series canon.

 

I think I want to do Ultimate Sacrifice at the end of Origins. It might be good for the character I'm making. It is a major character choice and I thought it would be reflected with later content.

 

I looked it up, and it seems that Awakening has only the following options:

 

1)Import a non-Sacrifice world state, and have Awakening reflect it.

2)Import a Sacrifice world state, and have Awakening reflect everything except for the Sacrifice ("But you died!" "I got better" )

3)Do not import Origins, and play a stock story with Orlesian Warden.

 

 

What I wanted was:

 

4)Import a Sacrifice world state and have an Orlesian Warden to play as (level import etc)

 

Is that not possible? Even with mods? This looks incredibly dumb and is, I suppose, the first big problem I've seen with the series. It is a real mental roadblock . Why can't I play as Orlesian Warden and Sacrifice at the same time? It looks like the ideal solution, but I read that it isn't available by Bioware.

 

As a sidenote: how do you think Inquisition will treat this, if at all?

[StrangeStrategy]

Huh? I might be wrong since it was a while since I played DA:Awakening, but can't you import a DAO save, and if you get to character creation select the "Orlesian Warden' Origin?

[Reznore57]

I think it's possible to play an Orlesian Warden with an US warden , but you'd need to look up on the net.

And I guess you can only do it on pc.

 

About the Keep , I guess this save import massacre will be rectified.

 

Edit http://forum.bioware...igins-spoilers/

[SwobyJ]

I think it's possible to play an Orlesian Warden with an US warden , but you'd need to look up on the net.

And I guess you can only do it on pc.

 

About the Keep , I guess this save import massacre will be rectified.

 

Edit http://forum.bioware...igins-spoilers/

 

Yeah I'm PC (now) so I may try this!

 

I really hope that Keep regards all of this properly, instead of the shoddy-appearing Awakening approach.

 

 

EDIT: In a way, I'm even fine with the OW not having the same items as my GW. Story-wise, they really shouldn't be sharing items anyway. I just want the world state to recognize my sacrifice (or in this fix, at least not ignore that I died), while everything else also carries over.

[SwobyJ]

OK a question for people: Regardless of whether I use this 'fix' or not, should my overall Origins>Awakening>Golems>WitchHunt story continue the Ultimate Sacrifice, even though Awakening was all "Yeah your Warden is alive and playable even though he shouldn't be"?

 

I read an old dev post that suggests this. That they made the Awakening>Golems>WitchHunt 'Warden-Commander' stuff vague due to this story discrepancy. If so, I'm happy with that for DA2

[katerinafm]

It should have been possible to import a sacrificed Warden and continue with an Orlesian one, but unfortunately it's not the case. There is a way around it with console commands etc (there are vid guides too) for how to do it and then succesfully import it into Dragon age 2 as well. You should also be able to just continue with the modded awakening save after and use it for witch hunt, etc.

 

I personally couldn't be bothered and ended up having all wardens live (even though I wanted to sacrifice a couple for the sake of different saves).

 

The Keep that will come out before DAI comes out apparently will make you able to make a save that has a sacrificed warden and then an orlesian warden. So if you can't be bothered to mod just go through DAO with one warden and just change the choices with the Keep (you won't be able to directly import your save anyway).

[NoForgiveness]

I tried it after I did the us.... seeing my dead warden just annoyed the crap out of me.

[Zatche]

OK a question for people: Regardless of whether I use this 'fix' or not, should my overall Origins>Awakening>Golems>WitchHunt story continue the Ultimate Sacrifice, even though Awakening was all "Yeah your Warden is alive and playable even though he shouldn't be"?

I read an old dev post that suggests this. That they made the Awakening>Golems>WitchHunt 'Warden-Commander' stuff vague due to this story discrepancy. If so, I'm happy with that for DA2

Are you asking how you should import into DA2 if you want it to recognize your US? Cause I'm not sure. I might recommend just importing your pre Awakening save file. It's less buggy and weird that way. The only thing that I can think of that DA2 references from the Awakening/Golems/Witch hunt is Nathaniel Howe. So unless you have him killed or something during Awakening, I wouldn't bother importing your Awakening save file.

[Iakus]

OK a question for people: Regardless of whether I use this 'fix' or not, should my overall Origins>Awakening>Golems>WitchHunt story continue the Ultimate Sacrifice, even though Awakening was all "Yeah your Warden is alive and playable even though he shouldn't be"?

 

I read an old dev post that suggests this. That they made the Awakening>Golems>WitchHunt 'Warden-Commander' stuff vague due to this story discrepancy. If so, I'm happy with that for DA2

 

There are no references to Witch Hunt or Golems at all in DA2, if I recall correctly.  And very few to DA2 (just a couple of side quests, really)

 

The Orlesian Warden has a specific DAO backstory to it, which might or might not align with how you want to do your game.  I think it assumes Alistair is made king, for example.

 

The Keep, from what I understand, will allow you to customise  both an US Warden and Orlesian Warden Commander stories for DAI.

[SwobyJ]

Are you asking how you should import into DA2 if you want it to recognize your US? Cause I'm not sure. I might recommend just importing your pre Awakening save file. It's less buggy and weird that way. The only thing that I can think of that DA2 references from the Awakening/Golems/Witch hunt is Nathaniel Howe. So unless you have him killed or something during Awakening, I wouldn't bother importing your Awakening save file.

 

Yeah I might do that, but I'd still prefer to import it all!

[Iakus]

Are you asking how you should import into DA2 if you want it to recognize your US? Cause I'm not sure. I might recommend just importing your pre Awakening save file. It's less buggy and weird that way. The only thing that I can think of that DA2 references from the Awakening/Golems/Witch hunt is Nathaniel Howe. So unless you have him killed or something during Awakening, I wouldn't bother importing your Awakening save file.

 

There's also a quest which is only available if you saved Amaranthine (the one where you listen in on those raider captains)

 

Also, I think the Grey Warden documents quest in Act 1 is only available if you spared the Architect (not 100% certain of that)

 

The Nathaniel Howe one is also buggy, since the import flags everyone left behind at the Vigil as dead if you save Amaranthine.  So if you save the city, take Nate with you!

[DarkKnightHolmes]

With the Ultimate sacrifice Warden, I think it's best to go straight to DA2 unless you're fine with Zombie Warden walking around and the story not making sense.

[Illyria]

There's also a quest which is only available if you saved Amaranthine (the one where you listen in on those raider captains)

 

Also, I think the Grey Warden documents quest in Act 1 is only available if you spared the Architect (not 100% certain of that)

 

The Nathaniel Howe one is also buggy, since the import flags everyone left behind at the Vigil as dead if you save Amaranthine.  So if you save the city, take Nate with you!

 

The Grey Warden documents quest is for completing the Warden's Keep (or whatever it's call, name escapes me at the moment) and allowing Averus to keep researching.

 

As for the question raised by the OP - since imports are going to be handled via the Keep it shouldn't be issue having zombie!Warden running around in the DLCs.  Just import, enjoy the story and rebuild your save the way it's meant to be in the Keep.

[Uirebhiril]

I just saw a video of how someone was able to use console commands to import their US Warden but switch to playing the Orlesian Warden...

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=bbv80vJrLwA There we go.

[SwobyJ]

With the Ultimate sacrifice Warden, I think it's best to go straight to DA2 unless you're fine with Zombie Warden walking around and the story not making sense.

 

I think I'll use the 'fix'.

 

This is assuming that I do Ultimate Sacrifice. If I make enough characters, at least one will do it.

[Ailith Tycane]

This is why they made the Keep. 

[KC_Prototype]

Yeah Bioware dropped the ball with this one. I've never did the US but once with my Dwarf so this hasn't been a problem for me because I always do the deed with Morrigan. But, they should of had this fixed so players can continue with their canon and I have no idea they hadn't had it fixed until a month ago. Luckily the Keep will honor a dead Warden.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I always found it incredibly weird that this wasn't an option. 

 

One would think people who did the Ultimate Sacrifice would be the reason the 'Orlesian Warden' exists in the first place...

[Wolfen09]

oh well, that all goes out the window with dragon age keep being our import to inquisition.

[Maria Caliban]

As a sidenote: how do you think Inquisition will treat this, if at all?

Saved games for Inquisition will be handled with the Dragon Age Keep. That lets you build a world state, so it probably allows you to have a dead inquisitor, Orlesean WC.

I always found it incredibly weird that this wasn't an option.

One would think people who did the Ultimate Sacrifice would be the reason the 'Orlesian Warden' exists in the first place...

I pitched a fit over this when I learned about it (not my finest moment) and was informed that there was a problem with the DA:O saved games that meant the US wasn't properly tagged in the vanilla game.

[SwobyJ]

Oh I know about Keep. Was more meaning the treatment of the Awakening Warden (Ferelden or Orlesian), if they do anything at all.

 

I saw your old angry thread, when I looked this up!

[Eveangaline]

Yeah, I'd like to pick what happened in awakenings without my wardens having to zombify or retroactively do the ritual.