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[Banxey]

Just because he's intelligent doesn't mean he'd just accept the plight of his people or an Inquisitor doing something uncalled for to a mage or elf, but I also hope that he realizes the bigger picture and doesn't get caught up in those causes. Which I expect a lot of our companions will do considering the severity of the main problem!

 

Morrigan just didn't really care about anyone, save for the Warden if you become her friend or her lover. I love Morrigan but I don't really want Solas to follow that same trope completely, though I hope he's more of a "we need to fix these Fade rifts" guy than a "MAGES. MAGE PLIGHT" guy.

 

I didn't mean I wanted him to be emotionally void. But I do want someone who is intelligent enough to know that there are good reasons to refuse to pander to everyone's causes and not launch into histrionics because we're not helping his brethren. I think it would be refreshing to have an elven mage character who wasn't as invested in those causes as most. But I also didn't mean that he should do nothing if I went and killed a bunch of mages/elves. Probably using Morrigan/Elthina as a mix of characters wasn't the best choice since you don't see them how I do. I just think that if he is isolated and focused, I would prefer he didn't have a cause. That doesn't have to mean he wouldn't care about it/them. It just means that I want someone to look at things from both sides despite being a mage or elf and understanding why it is necessary to do so without the PC having to persuade them to.

 

Also I like to think there were things that Morrigan could care about, she just didn't know it yet. 

[Dr. Doctor]

Varric: So any thoughts on the last draft?

Solas: I think you need a better villain. You know maniacal laughter plan to take over the world, that sort of thing.

Varric: Fair point, I can come up with something.

Solas: If you end up using me I'd at least like to have a nice cape. I've always fancied having a nice cape, maybe something in green.

Varric: You've put a bit of thought into this I take it?

Solas: It passes the time.

[Brass_Buckles]

I didn't mean I wanted him to be emotionally void. But I do want someone who is intelligent enough to know that there are good reasons to refuse to pander to everyone's causes and not launch into histrionics because we're not helping his brethren. I think it would be refreshing to have an elven mage character who wasn't as invested in those causes as most. But I also didn't mean that he should do nothing if I went and killed a bunch of mages/elves. Probably using Morrigan/Elthina as a mix of characters wasn't the best choice since you don't see them how I do. I just think that if he is isolated and focused, I would prefer he didn't have a cause. That doesn't have to mean he wouldn't care about it/them. It just means that I want someone to look at things from both sides despite being a mage or elf and understanding why it is necessary to do so without the PC having to persuade them to.

 

Also I like to think there were things that Morrigan could care about, she just didn't know it yet. 

 

Well, unless he's a Circle escapee, I don't see him having much of an argument in the ongoing mage/templar conflict.  However, he IS an elf and a mage, so I strongly suspect he'll be invested in those causes to some degree even if he's not personally a revolutionary.  For all we know, he may support the Circle because most mages aren't as capable as he is--sort of how mage Hawke was treated.  As for his take on other elves... that sort of depends where he's from.  If he's a city elf, his position is likely to be quite a bit different from the Dalish, who already live freely.  If he's former Dalish, that will color his opinion on the conflict.  Likewise if he turns out to be from Tevinter.

 

I think what I'm getting at is that, well, he has every right to be passionate about both the mages' cause and the elves', whether the Veil Tear takes precedence over that or not.  If he didn't care that much or worse yet didn't care at all, I would find that suspicious--as in, what kind of person doesn't care about their own plight and that of their family?  Could he be possessed by a demon?  Etc.

 

I don't want him to pull an Anders, and I didn't at all like Morrigan's hatred of doing anything nice for people who aren't Morrigan.  If he is, I'll probably leave him at camp as much as I can get away with.  But I suspect Vivienne will be the Morrigan of DA:I, with her cutting insults.  Not that there can't be more than one such character, but I think Solas will be something different.

 

I would like it if Solas were highly intelligent, maybe even a scholar.  He has to have some curiosity at the very least, to have become a Fade expert, and usually curious people are intelligent people.

[RynJ]

I didn't mean I wanted him to be emotionally void. But I do want someone who is intelligent enough to know that there are good reasons to refuse to pander to everyone's causes and not launch into histrionics because we're not helping his brethren. I think it would be refreshing to have an elven mage character who wasn't as invested in those causes as most. But I also didn't mean that he should do nothing if I went and killed a bunch of mages/elves. Probably using Morrigan/Elthina as a mix of characters wasn't the best choice since you don't see them how I do. I just think that if he is isolated and focused, I would prefer he didn't have a cause. That doesn't have to mean he wouldn't care about it/them. It just means that I want someone to look at things from both sides despite being a mage or elf and understanding why it is necessary to do so without the PC having to persuade them to.

 

Also I like to think there were things that Morrigan could care about, she just didn't know it yet. 

 

Morrigan can definitely care and likely does a lot more by the time she's in DAI, she was just very much a "people can be expendable if it helps our quest" kind of character in DAO in that she approved of stepping over or disregarding others to fit your goals. Much of this was probably because she was raised so isolated, which Solas could be also, but I just hope he doesn't follow exactly in Morrigan's footsteps in that way for the sake of not repeating personalities. I didn't go nearly into how I overall see the character so our views of her could possibly be similar! We definitely differ on Elthina, though. 

 

As for Solas being that character who understands you not fully supporting his possible causes or possible connection to the plight of his people, I kind of like the idea but then I kind of don't. It'd be nice if everyone thought so logically about things but it's not really the way most people think and it comes off as slightly unrealistic. When you really care about something, you're going to be biased towards that and feel that it is at least partially a priority. However, all of the above only applies IF he feels connected and responsible for his people, which we don't know. He could easily not heavily identify with the mage cause or the Dalish/elf cause. That's all up in the air!

[sandalisthemaker]

It's probably a foregone conclusion that your beloved Solas will be the featured companion for the next Follower Friday. *grumbles* 

 

[RynJ]

I wonder if Solas will be Vivienne's foil, in a way. It seems a little like it's possible, if he's the mage Vivienne argues with a lot. I guess that also depends on whether we get another mage! DHMG, maybe.

 

 

It's probably a foregone conclusion that your beloved Solas will be the featured companion for the next Follower Friday. *grumbles* 

 

 

 

It seems as if he will be, unless BioWare REALLY throws us for a loop! Who would you prefer it to be?

[Hellion Rex]

Is it time to invade this thread yet, Sandybear?

[sandalisthemaker]

I wonder if Solas will be Vivienne's foil, in a way. It seems a little like it's possible, if he's the mage Vivienne argues with a lot. I guess that also depends on whether we get another mage! DHMG, maybe.

 

 

 

 

It seems as if he will be, unless BioWare REALLY throws us for a loop! Who would you prefer it to be?

 

I'm hoping Moustache guy is her foil. Actually no, I hope *both* Solas and Moustache guy are her foils. I could picture them both cowering in fear, trying to make nice with her, but they keep bungling things up. lol

 

I would love to see Grey Warden guy next, personally.

 

Regardless, these follower Fridays are way too damn slow. We won't know who's next until next Friday, and then we won't get new pics or info until the following week after that. *grumbles some more*

[Brass_Buckles]

Morrigan can definitely care and likely does a lot more by the time she's in DAI, she was just very much a "people can be expendable if it helps our quest" kind of character in DAO in that she approved of stepping over or disregarding others to fit your goals. Much of this was probably because she was raised so isolated, which Solas could be also, but I just hope he doesn't follow exactly in Morrigan's footsteps in that way for the sake of not repeating personalities. I didn't go nearly into how I overall see the character so our views of her could possibly be similar! We definitely differ on Elthina, though. 

 

As for Solas being that character who understands you not fully supporting his possible causes or possible connection to the plight of his people, I kind of like the idea but then I kind of don't. It'd be nice if everyone thought so logically about things but it's not really the way most people think and it comes off as slightly unrealistic. When you really care about something, you're going to be biased towards that and feel that it is at least partially a priority. However, all of the above only applies IF he feels connected and responsible for his people, which we don't know. He could easily not heavily identify with the mage cause or the Dalish/elf cause. That's all up in the air!

 

As I said above... whether or not he feels connected to anyone, he's already inherently involved by being an elf and a mage.  While I'm sure the Veil Tear will take precedence over most if not all of the Inquisitor's companions, I would find it suspect if he didn't care at all about mages or elves.  I could see it more if he were, for instance, a Tevinter human.  Why would they care about the mages of Orlais and Ferelden?  Granted, there would be reasons to care, but mostly it wouldn't be their fight.  And if he were human, even if he were elf-blooded, his main concern about the elves would be an uprising.

 

Since he is, however, an elf and an apostate mage, I'd think it would matter to him whether or not he should expect to continue to be hunted by templars, and also whether or not he might be expected to join some of the elven factions.  I don't know to what degree that is.  Fenris didn't really identify as an elf, for instance, and yet, he was an elf so he couldn't exactly get away from that.  And I think he knew it--knew that was part of the reason he'd been treated as he had.  If the character's an elf in Orlais or Ferelden, they definitely know that it matters.  Even the Dalish know (and are bitter about it, too), even though the oppression of the elves affects them differently.

 

The question is really, " to what degree do these issues matter to him?" And then you could go on to ask, "How do these issues matter to him?"  For instance, as an apostate, they could go the route of his being upset by the mage/templar conflict not because he doesn't like the oppression of mages, but because it means that templars are working harder to rout out any apostates, putting him in greater danger than he was before.  Even if he thinks most mages should be in Circles and strictly controlled, or even if he thinks all magi should be completely free, the templars' intensified searches would probably force him to react, unless he's actually Dalish--which is unlikely, what with his lack of tattoos.

 

And as an elf... TME spoilers ahead: 

Spoiler

Briala already made an ultimatum:  elves who aren't with the city elves are against them--especially the Dalish whom the city elves look up to, despite the fact that they don't seem to care about the city elves' plight for the most part.  So he will more than likely have to pick sides in that conflict and will more than likely feel he has to side with the city elves, even if he felt completely disconnected from other elves.  And I doubt that is the case.

[RynJ]

I'm hoping Moustache guy is her foil. Actually no, I hope *both* Solas and Moustache guy are her foils. I could picture them both cowering in fear, trying to make nice with her, but they keep bungling things up. lol

 

I would love to see Grey Warden guy next, personally.

 

Of course I want Solas to be next but if they threw a curve-ball in there and it was suddenly the Grey Warden revealed out of nowhere, I wouldn't be mad at all! I like surprises!

[RynJ]

As I said above... whether or not he feels connected to anyone, he's already inherently involved by being an elf and a mage.  While I'm sure the Veil Tear will take precedence over most if not all of the Inquisitor's companions, I would find it suspect if he didn't care at all about mages or elves.  I could see it more if he were, for instance, a Tevinter human.  Why would they care about the mages of Orlais and Ferelden?  Granted, there would be reasons to care, but mostly it wouldn't be their fight.  And if he were human, even if he were elf-blooded, his main concern about the elves would be an uprising.

 

Since he is, however, an elf and an apostate mage, I'd think it would matter to him whether or not he should expect to continue to be hunted by templars, and also whether or not he might be expected to join some of the elven factions.  I don't know to what degree that is.  Fenris didn't really identify as an elf, for instance, and yet, he was an elf so he couldn't exactly get away from that.  And I think he knew it--knew that was part of the reason he'd been treated as he had.  If the character's an elf in Orlais or Ferelden, they definitely know that it matters.  Even the Dalish know (and are bitter about it, too), even though the oppression of the elves affects them differently.

 

The question is really, " to what degree do these issues matter to him?" And then you could go on to ask, "How do these issues matter to him?"  For instance, as an apostate, they could go the route of his being upset by the mage/templar conflict not because he doesn't like the oppression of mages, but because it means that templars are working harder to rout out any apostates, putting him in greater danger than he was before.  Even if he thinks most mages should be in Circles and strictly controlled, or even if he thinks all magi should be completely free, the templars' intensified searches would probably force him to react, unless he's actually Dalish--which is unlikely, what with his lack of tattoos.

 

And as an elf... TME spoilers ahead: 

Spoiler

Briala already made an ultimatum:  elves who aren't with the city elves are against them--especially the Dalish whom the city elves look up to, despite the fact that they don't seem to care about the city elves' plight for the most part.  So he will more than likely have to pick sides in that conflict and will more than likely feel he has to side with the city elves, even if he felt completely disconnected from other elves.  And I doubt that is the case.

 

You and I are pretty much in agreement! As for those spoilers, that's veeeeery interesting. I'll spoiler warning just in case:

Spoiler

I guess where Solas falls in might depend on his origins, which we know nothing about. Or it'd be interesting if he really is a Circle escapee and identifies with neither of them and perhaps both of them to an extent, considering he's an elf. Would he eventually be wanting to pick a side or would he want to stay out of it?

[Nefla]

It's probably a foregone conclusion that your beloved Solas will be the featured companion for the next Follower Friday. *grumbles* 

 

My markers stand ready for this coming day. For great justice and Solas fanart!

[sandalisthemaker]

My markers stand ready for this coming day. For great justice and Solas fanart!

 

Solas possessed by Justice if Anders was killed. Semi-confirmed rumor.

 

There *is* a hell of a lot of fan art in this thread, I must say. And I can't decide if Solas is Allan's fav or if Flaily Moustache guy is.

[Tamyn]

Solas possessed by Justice if Anders was killed. Semi-confirmed rumor.

 

 

[Brass_Buckles]

You and I are pretty much in agreement! As for those spoilers, that's veeeeery interesting. I'll spoiler warning just in case:

Spoiler

I guess where Solas falls in might depend on his origins, which we know nothing about. Or it'd be interesting if he really is a Circle escapee and identifies with neither of them and perhaps both of them to an extent, considering he's an elf. Would he eventually be wanting to pick a side or would he want to stay out of it?

 

Spoiler

The way I see it, he pretty much has to pick a side if he's going to be wandering around in public with the Inquisitor.  Although I will grant you that maybe the parties involved in the conflict might accept a truce with him for the time being.  I would guess in his case, picking a side is safer than not picking a side in some ways.  I doubt the templars, now that they've been stirred up like a hive of killer bees, would just pass an apostate by.  So either he has to hide the fact that he's a mage, pretend he's a Circle mage, or he has to join forces with the other ex-Circle magi--of which he may already be one.  It may be that he is with Rhys and Adrian when we find him.  We don't know yet.

 

As for the elves... they are angry enough at this point that I think if he doesn't at least pay lip service to the city elves, it will be dangerous for him.  Again, Briala made her ultimatum:  either the Dalish (and other elves) are with the city elves, or against them.  If he isn't part of the uprising, that effectively cuts him off from his people for all time, assuming he considers them his people.  It could be that he identifies more with magi.  Or it could be that he identifies more with elves and has left the Circle/remained an apostate/left the Dalish/etc. while seeking more information and a deeper connection with his elven heritage.  Again, we don't know.  To me, with his outdoorsy look, he strikes me as two things:  Fereldan, for starters, and very woodsy for the second.  He's woodsy in a way that doesn't indicate Dalish, but we don't know for sure that he hasn't decided to go it on his own because he doesn't agree with something the Dalish are doing. For instance, maybe he's wanted to support the city elves, whereas the rest of his clan didn't, and thus he had to leave or was exiled before he came of age.

 

I could come up with a lot more stances he could take but frankly I don't have anything to go by.  Hopefully he will be the Follower Friday reveal, and we can figure out a bit more about him.  Though we still won't really know him fully until the game is out.

[Nefla]

That's what I was thinking!

[Banxey]

As I said above... whether or not he feels connected to anyone, he's already inherently involved by being an elf and a mage.  While I'm sure the Veil Tear will take precedence over most if not all of the Inquisitor's companions, I would find it suspect if he didn't care at all about mages or elves.  I could see it more if he were, for instance, a Tevinter human.  Why would they care about the mages of Orlais and Ferelden?  Granted, there would be reasons to care, but mostly it wouldn't be their fight.  And if he were human, even if he were elf-blooded, his main concern about the elves would be an uprising.

 

Since he is, however, an elf and an apostate mage, I'd think it would matter to him whether or not he should expect to continue to be hunted by templars, and also whether or not he might be expected to join some of the elven factions.  I don't know to what degree that is.  Fenris didn't really identify as an elf, for instance, and yet, he was an elf so he couldn't exactly get away from that.  And I think he knew it--knew that was part of the reason he'd been treated as he had.  If the character's an elf in Orlais or Ferelden, they definitely know that it matters.  Even the Dalish know (and are bitter about it, too), even though the oppression of the elves affects them differently.

 

The question is really, " to what degree do these issues matter to him?" And then you could go on to ask, "How do these issues matter to him?"  For instance, as an apostate, they could go the route of his being upset by the mage/templar conflict not because he doesn't like the oppression of mages, but because it means that templars are working harder to rout out any apostates, putting him in greater danger than he was before.  Even if he thinks most mages should be in Circles and strictly controlled, or even if he thinks all magi should be completely free, the templars' intensified searches would probably force him to react, unless he's actually Dalish--which is unlikely, what with his lack of tattoos.

 

I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it's unrealistic for someone who is isolated not to be overly invested in the cause being put forth by a group of people they don't know. There are many people who are subject to "isms" who don't make the cause against them the focus of their lives, it doesn't mean they don't care. It may be in their interest to help that cause, but that doesn't mean it's in their best interest to go about it in the way the majority demands.

 

I would like a companion who is smart enough to look at what is going on and understand that it's all well and good to want to make things better for their people, but that it wont happen if the world ends. Someone who despite being a mage/elf/templar/etc wants what is best for everyone over what is best for their group. And I would like them to arrive at that conclusion without having to persuade them. An isolated person is my best chance at this. Don't kill my dream. I don't want to be the only one in the game who tries to do the fair thing for everyone, while everyone else is dividing themselves amongst their causes and races.

 

Anyway, I think I'm just going in circles here so I'll drop it and wait for more fan art.

[RynJ]

What if Solas really DID end up having hair in his finished form....

 

but it was a mullet?

[Mes]

What if Solas really DID end up having hair in his finished form....

 

but it was a mullet?

 

Or a toupee!! 

 

Oh dear what if his backpack isn't filled with attack rodents but with toupees and wigs to cover up his baldness??

[Lorien19]

Or a toupee!! 

 

Oh dear what if his backpack isn't filled with attack rodents but with toupees and wigs to cover up his baldness??

LMAO!

[sandalisthemaker]

What if Solas really DID end up having hair in his finished form....

 

but it was a mullet?

 

A reverse mohawk or an "Emile de Launcet" would be splendid.

[Banxey]

Or a toupee!! 

 

Oh dear what if his backpack isn't filled with attack rodents but with toupees and wigs to cover up his baldness??

 

I would pay for some armour DLC that gave him a powdered wig for a helmet. 

[sandalisthemaker]

I would pay for some armour DLC that gave him a powdered wig for a helmet. 

 

If Solas was in possession of a two foot tall, white powdered wig, his fabulous levels would skyrocket. He would rival Vivienne if so.

[Rusty Sandusky]

What if Solas really DID end up having hair in his finished form....
 
but it was a mullet?

Billy Ray Solas

[Allan Schumacher]

I wanted to make some fanart too :|

*snip*

 

I really hope he's going to be the next companion revealed on the Follower Friday 

 

I really must say, again, you all are totally nailing the mouth