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[Brass_Buckles]

I hadn't even heard the "ancient elf" theory yet. That would be amazing. I should have been following this thread more closely! Haha. 

 

I've been thinking he would probably end up being a Dalish that got separated from/left his tribe, or they were killed, right before he got the tattoos. I would LOVE the ancient elf background, though. That would make him like 100x more interesting to me. 

 

I'm not sure it eliminates him as a LI, though. I mean, the reason it does with Cole is that he's mentally incapable of consent and, in all likeliness, he has no sexual desire just because that's not something spirits actually do. If Solas is an immortal elf, that just means.. he's immortal. He'd probably still have a libido, because elves obviously sexually reproduce and they did when they were immortal, too. He'd be able to consent, the Inquisitor is mentally capable of consent. It's not like this would be the first media to have an immortal character hook up with a mortal character.

 

Well, the problem I pointed out with it before isn't that he couldn't consent, but that he'd be so much older and more experienced than the Inquisitor that at that point, the Inquisitor would become a child to him.  If you're 500+ years old, a 20-something is going to look like an infant to you.  The 20-something will have much less experience, will not have been through the things you went through, etc.  And the ancient elves who went into uthenara were very aware in the Fade, watching over the other elves, etc.  As I said earlier, the Veil Tear would have likely woken them up.

 

Of course... TME spoiler ahead...

Spoiler

When they went through the eluvians in Masked Empire, they ran across a sleeper who'd had his or her throat slit.  And some of them still required sustenance, so all of those died.  It's possible that the elves trapped in the passages murdered all of the sleepers.  And I wouldn't even really blame them for it, though with food still available you'd think they could have survived and even reproduced all the same, until the food ran out, unless there were a cultural reason that they couldn't/didn't.  It was quite interesting to me that Felassen knew where the food was, for that matter... or was it the Dalish girl Mheren?  I think it was Felassen.

 

Anyway, yeah.  The ancient elves might all have been murdered by the trapped servants.  I suspect that only the elven nobles were sleepers, and maybe only they were immortal.  The servants... not so much.  So, why would they want to be trapped in there for all eternity taking care of sleepers who cared nothing for them?  And if they were ALL murdered, and none of them survived, then this theory's destroyed regardless.

 

And that's just one of many reasons that while the idea is interesting, I don't think it's true--and I'm the one who thought it up.  But who knows?  Maybe someone will read it and it'll be implemented next game or so.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I hope they tell us the writer when they announce a Follower Friday character and, also, hope in vain that they tell us when a character is a LI. They didn't with Vivienne, but popular opinion is that it'll be Cassandra and Sera for female LIs. Probably wont happen, but I still hope. 

 

Solas is already interesting to me based on the "fade expert" commentary we'd heard. Character worth, to me, has a lot to do with how much new information they stand to give. Solas already seemed to have a lot to tell us about the fade, but as an ancient elf character, he'd be easily one of my favorite concepts. lol

[Brass_Buckles]

I hope they tell us the writer when they announce a Follower Friday character and, also, hope in vain that they tell us when a character is a LI. They didn't with Vivienne, but popular opinion is that it'll be Cassandra and Sera for female LIs. Probably wont happen, but I still hope. 

 

Solas is already interesting to me based on the "fade expert" commentary we'd heard. Character worth, to me, has a lot to do with how much new information they stand to give. Solas already seemed to have a lot to tell us about the fade, but as an ancient elf character, he'd be easily one of my favorite concepts. lol

 

Well, having read TME, I wonder if, were he an ancient elf, it would necessarily be a good thing.

 

Spoiler

Felassen did not paint the ancient elves with a pretty brush, even if Briala was envisioning the glory and beauty.  He pointed out there were still slums and still servants and clearly the servants weren't too happy about serving the sleepers... again, one of them had been murdered.  So if it were true, Solas might end up being a terribly callous person, or just an entirely too proud one, which would fit quite well with his name.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Well, the problem I pointed out with it before isn't that he couldn't consent, but that he'd be so much older and more experienced than the Inquisitor that at that point, the Inquisitor would become a child to him.  If you're 500+ years old, a 20-something is going to look like an infant to you.  The 20-something will have much less experience, will not have been through the things you went through, etc.  And the ancient elves who went into uthenara were very aware in the Fade, watching over the other elves, etc.  As I said earlier, the Veil Tear would have likely woken them up.

 

Of course... TME spoiler ahead...

Spoiler

When they went through the eluvians in Masked Empire, they ran across a sleeper who'd had his or her throat slit.  And some of them still required sustenance, so all of those died.  It's possible that the elves trapped in the passages murdered all of the sleepers.  And I wouldn't even really blame them for it, though with food still available you'd think they could have survived and even reproduced all the same, until the food ran out, unless there were a cultural reason that they couldn't/didn't.  It was quite interesting to me that Felassen knew where the food was, for that matter... or was it the Dalish girl Mheren?  I think it was Felassen.

 

Anyway, yeah.  The ancient elves might all have been murdered by the trapped servants.  I suspect that only the elven nobles were sleepers, and maybe only they were immortal.  The servants... not so much.  So, why would they want to be trapped in there for all eternity taking care of sleepers who cared nothing for them?  And if they were ALL murdered, and none of them survived, then this theory's destroyed regardless.

 

And that's just one of many reasons that while the idea is interesting, I don't think it's true--and I'm the one who thought it up.  But who knows?  Maybe someone will read it and it'll be implemented next game or so.

I'm not sure a 20 year old would seem like an "infant" in this context. I mean, they're still physically mature and they're the leader of a powerful, internationally recognized organization. There might be a lot more life experience on Solas's side, if this is his concept, but I'm of the opinion that romance is all above board as long as it's adults involved, even if one is substantially older. 

 

I would be willing to sacrifice Solas as a LI for it, but then again, I wasn't heavily banking on Solas as a LI. Still, generally I look towards what there is for a character to add to the lore before anything else. This would be AMAZING in that capacity, so I'm with it before LI status. I'm sure he'll be interesting either way, but I would LOVE this concept, personally. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Well, having read TME, I wonder if, were he an ancient elf, it would necessarily be a good thing.

 

Spoiler

Felassen did not paint the ancient elves with a pretty brush, even if Briala was envisioning the glory and beauty.  He pointed out there were still slums and still servants and clearly the servants weren't too happy about serving the sleepers... again, one of them had been murdered.  So if it were true, Solas might end up being a terribly callous person, or just an entirely too proud one, which would fit quite well with his name.

Well, like I said before, my interest in characters tends towards what they have to add to the lore. This is an argument I see against Cole a lot, that they think he seems like a bad guy, for whatever reason. We've had a lot of companions that were jerks in one way or another. It wouldn't be anything new. lol

[Brass_Buckles]

Well, like I said before, my interest in characters tends towards what they have to add to the lore. This is an argument I see against Cole a lot, that they think he seems like a bad guy, for whatever reason. We've had a lot of companions that were jerks in one way or another. It wouldn't be anything new. lol

 

I don't really expect that little theory of mine to be true.  It'd be epic if it were, but... you know.  I doubt it.  But I wouldn't even have devised that theory if we had more information about Solas already available.  It's going to be hard to understand who he is without knowing where he comes from.  Personality is important, but personality often is affected by an individual's past experiences to some degree.  If he's former Dalish, he's going to have a different background and outlook than if he's an ex-Circle mage, or even someone who was never Dalish or a Circle mage, but raised in secret out in the wilds somewhere or something.

 

For now all we know is that he's an apostate and that he's awkward, sweet and spicy.  And the sweet and spicy really gives me the impression he was meant as a love interest, but, if he's not I won't be crushed.  I'll probably just not romance anyone (unless Dramatic Hands Mustache Guy turns out to be available, maybe).  Cullen's cute, but all the hype about him and the fact that he really hates mages/doesn't see them as people, turns me against him for romance purposes.

 

In any case, my point about "he might not be romanceable," which I've kept failing to mention, I think, is that... it won't matter to me, if he's interesting enough that I like him anyway.

 

Hmmm, and another TME spoiler...

 

Spoiler

The Masked Empire was written by Patrick Weekes.  If Felassen and Solas are one and the same, his writer will be Weekes, not Gaider--though we know that Gaider seems defensive of Solas.  Whether that means he will be a romance or not, I do not know.

[RynJ]

Well, having read TME, I wonder if, were he an ancient elf, it would necessarily be a good thing.

 

Spoiler

Felassen did not paint the ancient elves with a pretty brush, even if Briala was envisioning the glory and beauty.  He pointed out there were still slums and still servants and clearly the servants weren't too happy about serving the sleepers... again, one of them had been murdered.  So if it were true, Solas might end up being a terribly callous person, or just an entirely too proud one, which would fit quite well with his name.

 

Well, his defining food is candy. How terrible could he be? 

[Brass_Buckles]

Well, his defining food is candy. How terrible could he be? 

 

I guess that depends on whether or not you like hot pepper candies...

 

In any case, we're clearly starving for information here.  Anyone else have any wild theories to discuss?

 

And for that matter, what would it mean to the game if Solas WERE an ancient elf?  Maybe that would be how we find Arlathan, despite no one ever knowing precisely where to look before?

[RynJ]

I guess that depends on whether or not you like hot pepper candies...

 

In any case, we're clearly starving for information here.  Anyone else have any wild theories to discuss?

 

And for that matter, what would it mean to the game if Solas WERE an ancient elf?  Maybe that would be how we find Arlathan, despite no one ever knowing precisely where to look before?

 

Sweet is sweet is sweet! And spicy too, in this case. 

 

More theories? I think what would make Solas really interesting (other than your awesome ancient elf idea) is if he really is a Dreamer. Though he might be a bit overpowered that way.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Hmmm, and another TME spoiler...

 

Spoiler

The Masked Empire was written by Patrick Weekes.  If Felassen and Solas are one and the same, his writer will be Weekes, not Gaider--though we know that Gaider seems defensive of Solas.  Whether that means he will be a romance or not, I do not know.

As for this part, I never really thought that was enough evidence that Gaider was his writer. There are a lot of reasons why Gaider could be defensive of his character build. It's sort of weird to me how people automatically start assuming someone wrote a character based on things like the writer liking a post in the characters thread, like I saw with another character. Maybe Gaider is the writer, but I don't think we really have any strong evidence of it. With very likely NPC romances, it's possible that both of Gaider's companions wont even be LIs. It's possible he wrote one of the NPC romances.

[Brass_Buckles]

Sweet is sweet is sweet! And spicy too, in this case. 

 

More theories? I think what would make Solas really interesting (other than your awesome ancient elf idea) is if he really is a Dreamer. Though he might be a bit overpowered that way.

 

 

Inquisitor> So... Solas.  I understand you're a Fade expert.  Does that make you the man of my dreams?

Solas> Oh, I'm so much more than that.  I could make your dreams come true.  But I don't feel like it right now.  Come back and talk to me later.

Inquisitor>  This is about that herb-gathering incident, isn't it?  This is my punishment.

Solas> No, this is about your puns.  Still, I guess it is your "pun"-ishment.

 

Yeah.  Bad Brass.  No cookies.

 

It's an interesting idea.  With the Veil Tears, a Dreamer could definitely be useful.  Or then again, the fact that we can already enter the Fade at will might render him less useful than he might be otherwise.  Or more useful, if he can somehow directly manipulate reality due to the Fade bleeding into reality.

[Banxey]

 

 

Hmmm, and another TME spoiler...

 

Spoiler

The Masked Empire was written by Patrick Weekes.  If Felassen and Solas are one and the same, his writer will be Weekes, not Gaider--though we know that Gaider seems defensive of Solas.  Whether that means he will be a romance or not, I do not know.

 

Just finished TME about an hour ago so I no longer have to live in fear of quoting posts with spoiler tags.

 

TME spoiilers

Spoiler

Felassen died though didn't he? He was killed in the Fade, so if he's alive he is more or less a tranquil. But I didn't think he was real. I thought he was essentially the Choice spirit/demon. Or a tool of some sort. The demon/spirit referred to him as "Slow Arrow," water didn't touch him, and he left no tracks.

 

Anyway, as per Brass' theory, I had read earlier some speculation that Solas may have been an Arlathian elf. But reading Brass' theory, I have to say that I thought about it in terms of Solas and had a similar thought as she did but..

 

TME spoilers

Spoiler

I thought Solas might be an elf Bria finds amongst the mazes of the Eluvians. And that would explain how he dresses. If Bria is helping the city Elves, finds Solas and he agrees to help her cause, he wouldn't be wearing fancy clothes if he wanted to blend in amongst the CEs. They said someone from TME would be in the game and perhaps it's Bria with a connection to Solas.

 

EDIT: Needed to fix a few things because I'm a bit unfocused.

 

TME spoilers.

Spoiler

Due to being mopey and distracted because of what happened between Celene and Briala.

[Ispan]

Inquisitor> So... Solas.  I understand you're a Fade expert.  Does that make you the man of my dreams?

Solas> Oh, I'm so much more than that.  I could make your dreams come true.  But I don't feel like it right now.  Come back and talk to me later.

Inquisitor>  This is about that herb-gathering incident, isn't it?  This is my punishment.

Solas> No, this is about your puns.  Still, I guess it is your "pun"-ishment.

 

Yeah.  Bad Brass.  No cookies.

 

Good Brass!  You keep us supplied with pun-tastic banter and I will shower you with cookies.

 

Also, I really need to read TME

[Banxey]

Good Brass!  You keep us supplied with pun-tastic banter and I will shower you with cookies.

 

Also, I really need to read TME

 

Yes you do. Holy **** it was good.

[Brass_Buckles]

Just finished TME about an hour ago so I no longer have to live in fear of quoting posts with spoiler tags.

 

TME spoiilers

Spoiler

Felassen died though didn't he? He was killed in the Fade, so if he's alive he is more or less a tranquil. But I didn't think he was real. I thought he was essentially the Choice spirit/demon. Or a tool of some sort. The demon/spirit referred to him as "Slow Arrow," water didn't touch him, and he left no tracks.

 

Anyway, as per Brass' theory, I had read earlier some speculation that Solas may have been an Arlathian elf. But reading Brass' theory, I have to say that I thought about it in terms of Solas and had a similar thought as she did but..

 

TME spoilers

Spoiler

I thought Solas might be an elf Bria finds amongst the mazes of the Eluvians. And that would explain how he dresses. If Bria is helping the city Elves, finds Solas and he agrees to help her cause, he wouldn't be wearing fancy clothes if he wanted to blend in amongst the CEs. They said someone from TME would be in the game and perhaps it's Bria with a connection to Solas.

 

EDIT: Needed to fix a few things because I'm a bit unfocused.

 

TME spoilers.

Spoiler

Due to being mopey and distracted because of what happened between Celene and Briala.

 

 

Spoiler

Well... Felassen did apparently die.  Apparently.  What we don't know is if he might have been an abomination, or, as you said, a spirit, or, as I have theorized, an ancient Arlathan elf himself--or even Fen'Harel, which I actually came to suspect because literally no other Dalish we've ever heard of actually honored Fen'Harel the way Felassen did.  And something struck me about the way he kissed Briala's forehead and then vanished, and then we learned the password for the eluvians--which meant Fen'Harel's blessing.  Almost like Felassen gave Briala Fen'Harel's blessing.  It makes more sense if you think that Felassen might be either a Dreamer or an Arlathan elf--particularly given all the stuff he knows that he has literally no way of knowing because the Dalish do not have that knowledge.  He's downright suspicious.

 

And yet, what little we know about Solas--the awkwardness, particularly... fits pretty well with Felassen.  I had plenty of reasons to think it's not so, though--the ages don't seem to match, Solas has no tattoos, and, well, really we know nothing about Solas yet so he may actually be totally different.  Not to mention, Felassen is presumably dead.  But, I am not the only one who's had this theory, either--and I think it's partly just wishful thinking because Felassen was fascinating and I'd have liked to know more about him, rather than have him die.  And, given that he's encountering the other person in the Fade, it's also possible that he has not died, but been possessed or something similar.

[Banxey]

Spoiler

Well... Felassen did apparently die.  Apparently.  What we don't know is if he might have been an abomination, or, as you said, a spirit, or, as I have theorized, an ancient Arlathan elf himself--or even Fen'Harel, which I actually came to suspect because literally no other Dalish we've ever heard of actually honored Fen'Harel the way Felassen did.  And something struck me about the way he kissed Briala's forehead and then vanished, and then we learned the password for the eluvians--which meant Fen'Harel's blessing.  Almost like Felassen gave Briala Fen'Harel's blessing.  It makes more sense if you think that Felassen might be either a Dreamer or an Arlathan elf--particularly given all the stuff he knows that he has literally no way of knowing because the Dalish do not have that knowledge.  He's downright suspicious.

 

And yet, what little we know about Solas--the awkwardness, particularly... fits pretty well with Felassen.  I had plenty of reasons to think it's not so, though--the ages don't seem to match, Solas has no tattoos, and, well, really we know nothing about Solas yet so he may actually be totally different.  Not to mention, Felassen is presumably dead.  But, I am not the only one who's had this theory, either--and I think it's partly just wishful thinking because Felassen was fascinating and I'd have liked to know more about him, rather than have him die.  And, given that he's encountering the other person in the Fade, it's also possible that he has not died, but been possessed or something similar.

 

Spoiler

I wondered if he was Fen'Harel too, but I think he was just a tool. But yes, it's not too clear what he was exactly. I don't think he was a Dailish dreamer which is what he appeared to be for most of the book. And I don't think he was Dalish at all. Bria asks him herself and he doesn't answer. I think he looked Dalish because Bria had always thought of the Dalish as magical saviors. But Felassan manipulated her. Their entire relationship was him manipulating her to get her to the point where she would activate the Eluvians. Like the story. Perhaps he was Fen'Harel's slow arrow (which is what Felassan means) so maybe the one who killed Felassan is Fen'Harel. But if he was a spirit they can die in the Fade in a way. They just become infinitely less powerful and have to start over with little to no consciousness. So I don't think we'll see him again. He seemed to have accepted his death, he felt like he had given Bria a choice and it was worth it to him. 

 

Anyway, I can understand not wanting him dead. He was interesting. But I don't see him being Solas. But argh my head is spinning with all the new info. I don't know what to think. Maybe I need to lay down.

[salzgurken]

Karm's "Solas in Wonderland" (     )  gave me so many feels that I decided to also make one. You know, for science?

It was better in my head I swear! Can I at least get a YOU TRIED sticker?

[RynJ]

Karm's "Solas in Wonderland" (     )  gave me so many feels that I decided to also make one. You know, for science?

It was better in my head I swear! Can I at least get a YOU TRIED sticker?

 

Is that a Flemeth Cheshire cat? That is absolutely brilliant! And the Allan bees and the dress and Solas's FACE, I'm laughing so hard! You get more than a "you tried" sticker! You deserve a "you're awesome" sticker 

[salzgurken]

Is that a Flemeth Cheshire cat? That is absolutely brilliant! And the Allan bees and the dress and Solas's FACE, I'm laughing so hard! You get more than a "you tried" sticker! You deserve a "you're awesome" sticker 

Thank you ! And yes, it is Flemeth I wanted to embrace all the feels this thread gives me, hence the Allan bees, dem herbs and a staff with dem THIGHS carved in it.

[coldwetn0se]

@salzgurken - Absolutely love the white/black striped hosiery. This is a must have, and BW must make it so.

[salzgurken]

@salzgurken - Absolutely love the white/black striped hosiery. This is a must have, and BW must make it so.

white/black striped hosiery as a new inquisition iconic look - semi-confirmed rumour

[RynJ]

What if it turned out that Solas wasn't a companion and we were wrong all along? I would probably just start laughing, to be honest!

 

Sometimes I consider all of the stuff we could be so incredibly wrong about 

[salzgurken]

What if it turned out that Solas wasn't a companion and we were wrong all along? I would probably just start laughing, to be honest!

 

Sometimes I consider all of the stuff we could be so incredibly wrong about 

[Karm]

Karm's "Solas in Wonderland" (     )  gave me so many feels that I decided to also make one. You know, for science?

 

*awesomesauce snip*

 

It was better in my head I swear! Can I at least get a YOU TRIED sticker?

 

Oh, sure, as long as "YOU TRIED" means "THIS IS GORRAM AMAZING". Seriously, I love your style, it's shiny. The bees, and the Cheshire Flemeth and the hoisery.

 

Just