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Even if he's not an LI I will go out of my way to ensure his...assets... on are display as much as possible :wub:

 

But damn, I'd be very interested in seeing Solas in plate just to see how they'd infuse it with his "style."  I also have a *thing* for lithe men in heavy armor.

 

It'd probably look a whole lot lighter on him, and that's assuming that he'd even be able to if you raised his stats for a proper mage.

 

I have a theory that with the even spread of mage/warrior/rogue and the 3 specializations for each class, we will not only be less likely to see new specializations via DLC, but each companion will have their own specialization that we can learn.  That means we've got an Arcane Enchanter, the other class I don't remember the name of, and the necromancer.

 

If you want me to share something creeptastic about Solas, I'd argue he's our most likely candidate for necromancer.  He's the only one with anything associated with death on his person (via the jawbone).  And it might just mean that he's got a serious evil streak.  That... might serve to turn me away from having my Inquisitor romance him pretty quickly.  He does not have the appearance of an Arcane Enchanter.  I would tend to assign that spec to Dorian/DHMG.  I wish I could remember the other spec, so I could say for sure if it sounded like something Vivienne would have.


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It'd probably look a whole lot lighter on him, and that's assuming that he'd even be able to if you raised his stats for a proper mage.

 

I have a theory that with the even spread of mage/warrior/rogue and the 3 specializations for each class, we will not only be less likely to see new specializations via DLC, but each companion will have their own specialization that we can learn.  That means we've got an Arcane Enchanter, the other class I don't remember the name of, and the necromancer.

 

If you want me to share something creeptastic about Solas, I'd argue he's our most likely candidate for necromancer.  He's the only one with anything associated with death on his person (via the jawbone).  And it might just mean that he's got a serious evil streak.  That... might serve to turn me away from having my Inquisitor romance him pretty quickly.  He does not have the appearance of an Arcane Enchanter.  I would tend to assign that spec to Dorian/DHMG.  I wish I could remember the other spec, so I could say for sure if it sounded like something Vivienne would have.

 

It's Rift Mage, which sounds very Solassian.  I don't usually go for "evil" characters, but it might be fun to go outside of my comfort zone to pursue a more evil romance.

 

Edit:  And I like your thoughts on the companion specializations.  I felt the companion specific specializations gave the DA2 characters more of a unique feel, but I understand that some people didn't like the limitations.



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It's Rift Mage, which sounds very Solassian.  I don't usually go for "evil" characters, but it might be fun to go outside of my comfort zone to pursue a more evil romance.

 

Edit:  And I like your thoughts on the companion specializations.  I felt the companion specific specializations gave the DA2 characters more of a unique feel, but I understand that some people didn't like the limitations.

 

Yeah, rift mage sounds like him, too, but I can't see Vivienne being a necromancer, somehow.  And Dorian/DHMG was shown in concept art with a sword-like staff, and a shortsword.  He seems to be the knight enchanter type, if they are like the arcane warrior (was mixing up the names, sorry).

 

But I could be wrong, and Dorian could be our necromancer, Vivienne the knight enchanter, and Solas the rift mage.  If I'm right, though, our apostate is the necromancer, Dorian is a dashing knight, and Vivienne does magic that has to do with a rift.  Or something.


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I thought Vivi would be the Knight Enchanter because of the description.

 

Among the Circles of Magi, only a few mages have the strength of will necessary to focus their energy inward. Wrapped in protective magics and wielding blades of arcane force, the Knight Enchanters are rare, but inspiring sights as they lead the charge into enemy ranks.

 

I guess "Dorian" could be from a circle, but the "strength of will" line makes me think of Vivienne.

 

Edit: Then again, we don't know if the companions will have these specialisations, do we? I'm sorry if someone already said that, I was reading while trying to stop my dog from itching his ear. :P

 

Edit 2: Never mind. I had a chance to reread everything. Oops.



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I thought Vivi would be the Knight Enchanter because of the description.

 

Among the Circles of Magi, only a few mages have the strength of will necessary to focus their energy inward. Wrapped in protective magics and wielding blades of arcane force, the Knight Enchanters are rare, but inspiring sights as they lead the charge into enemy ranks.

 

I guess "Dorian" could be from a circle, but the "strength of will" line makes me think of Vivienne.

 

Edit: Then again, we don't know if the companions will have these specialisations, do we? I'm sorry if someone already said that, I was reading while trying to stop my dog from itching his ear. :P

 

I don't think we know for sure they'll have those specializations, but I guess the name "Knight Enchanter" reminded me so much of the Circle titles we know already that I automatically associated it with Vivienne.  If they are companion specializations and DHMG is the necromancer, I wonder what that says about him.  He's against the corruption in Tevinter, but not against their use of "foul magics?"  Hmmm... I'm so interested to know what this Rift Mage business entails though.



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Somehow I find it hard to imagine Vivienne swinging a sword into battle.She always struck me as the type to rain pain down from afar. Otherwise, it would be all too easy to soil her silks with grime and gore. 

 

Personally, I'd guess:

 

Dorian - Knight Enchanter 

Vivienne - Rift Mage

Solas - Necromancer

 

Edit: Perhaps the Rift Mage specialization is only open to the Inquisitor? I find it hard to believe anyone else in Thedas would be able to draw from the rifts if that is what the skill entails. 


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I don't think we know for sure they'll have those specializations, but I guess the name "Knight Enchanter" reminded me so much of the Circle titles we know already that I automatically associated it with Vivienne.  If they are companion specializations and DHMG is the necromancer, I wonder what that says about him.  He's against the corruption in Tevinter, but not against their use of "foul magics?"  Hmmm... I'm so interested to know what this Rift Mage business entails though.

 

Didn't one of the devs say you could rip open the Fade and bring things forth to fight for you? That sounds like a Rift Mage to me. If I was going to commit to something, I'd say the followers will have follower specific specialisations. 


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Somehow I find it hard to imagine Vivienne swinging a sword into battle.She always struck me as the type to rain pain down from afar. Otherwise, it would be all too easy to soil her silks with grime and gore. 

 

Personally, I'd guess:

 

Dorian - Knight Enchanter 

Vivienne - Rift Mage

Solas - Necromancer

 

They don't use actual swords though. They use "blades of arcane force." 



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I don't think we know for sure they'll have those specializations, but I guess the name "Knight Enchanter" reminded me so much of the Circle titles we know already that I automatically associated it with Vivienne.  If they are companion specializations and DHMG is the necromancer, I wonder what that says about him.  He's against the corruption in Tevinter, but not against their use of "foul magics?"  Hmmm... I'm so interested to know what this Rift Mage business entails though.

 

Yeah, that's another reason I don't think Dorian is the necromancer.  That, and the design of his staves being inclined toward sword-blade in appearance.

 

But if you want to get really out-there...

 

 

Pic above has Solas with a very glowy stave.  Knight enchanter supposedly manifests blades etc.  Could it be that Solas is the knight enchanter?

 

And yet, of everyone, Solas's jawbone necklace is the most evocative of death, which would make me think he's the necromancer.  While Vivienne being a Circle mage is in agreement with the idea that she'd be the knight enchanter, Dorian could have learned it because he doesn't believe in the sort of magic used in Tevinter.  Or, he could still be the necromancer if he had gone to Nevarra at some point.  It's hard to say.

 

I guess ultimately it's all up in the air, because you could make a case for anyone being anything, and as long as we don't really know what a rift mage does, we have nothing to pin that specialization to anyone.  It does sound Fade-related, and Solas is our Fade expert.  And yet, that does not mean that Solas necessarily is the rift mage.  I suppose neither does the fact that he wears a jawbone around mean that he is necessarily a necromancer, but in my opinion, knowing that the designs were all created with the specific elements they have for a reason, it seems odd to me that he would randomly be wearing dead animal bits and it didn't have something to do with him as a character.



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They don't use actual swords though. They use "blades of arcane force." 

 

Whoops, I misconstrued that to mean "blades imbued with arcane force". Yet it still seems to imply close-range combat. 



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Mr Mustache has had an Arcane Warrior vibe in his concept art, so I lean towards him being the Knight Enchanter.  And if he's Dorian, who was supposed to be what you don't expect from a Tevinter magister, I don't think he'd be a Necromancer.  Solas could easily be either the Necromancer or Rift Mage, but I can't see someone as fancy and proper as Vivienne being a Necromancer, so I'd guess she's the Rift Mage.  That leaves Solas as the Necromancer...  Y'know, the Dales are supposed to be utterly infested with undead, and if that's where we find him...kinda makes sense.  

 

Messing around with necromancy is apostate-y and would be Fade related.  And I can imagine that a guy who doesn't usually have much company other than dead people might be socially awkward...  ;)

 

Then again, the companions might not have one of these designated to them...


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Whoops, I misconstrued that to mean "blades imbued with arcane force". Yet it still seems to imply close-range combat. 

 

It's OK. I'm not convinced it sounds entirely like her either. But I don't think it sounds like Dorian. Of Vivienne and Dorian, Vivi has more actual armor on her so I don't see him as this tanky-sounding mage. Which is why I am going to believe none of them are those things. :P

 

Edit: I said either three times. It made me sad.


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I'm actually hoping that I'm wrong, since I don't want Solas to turn out to be some evil necromancer type who deals with demons.  But, at the same time, with the designs saying specific things about the characters, I can't help but think that the jawbone is telling us "NECROMANCERNECROMANCERNECROMANCER."  I'd much rather he be the Rift Mage, and maybe summon spirits to keep him company--which would be why he became a Fade expert, since he could speak with them.

 

Dragondreamer might be right, though, and no one actually has these specializations, but instead each has their own companion specialization to make them feel more unique.  And yet, I remember DA:O and learning the specializations (most of them anyway) from the companions you picked up along the way, if you made friends with them.



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I'm actually hoping that I'm wrong, since I don't want Solas to turn out to be some evil necromancer type who deals with demons.  But, at the same time, with the designs saying specific things about the characters, I can't help but think that the jawbone is telling us "NECROMANCERNECROMANCERNECROMANCER."  I'd much rather he be the Rift Mage, and maybe summon spirits to keep him company--which would be why he became a Fade expert, since he could speak with them.

 

Dragondreamer might be right, though, and no one actually has these specializations, but instead each has their own companion specialization to make them feel more unique.  And yet, I remember DA:O and learning the specializations (most of them anyway) from the companions you picked up along the way, if you made friends with them.

 

The more I think about it.. 

 

People have been saying that the way Solas looks makes him seem like a survivalist. He carries all his worldly possessions around in his backpack. He uses what he can find to get by. Well, if you are someone who happens to make use of whatever you can find just laying around, why wouldn't you use the corpses of dead people to fight for you? I mean, you're not technically hurting anyone. It's efficient. It's the kind of fighting style a loner might have, because he has nobody to watch his back.

 

The only things watching Solas' back are the hollow eyesockets of his fallen foes! Mwahahahaha! Sorry, but I love this now.

 

It even fits in with the crazy theories surrounding Solas and Falon'Din. 


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The more I think about it.. 

 

People have been saying that the way Solas looks makes him seem like a survivalist. He carries all his worldly possessions around in his backpack. He uses what he can find to get by. Well, if you are someone who happens to make use of whatever you can find just laying around, why wouldn't you use the corpses of dead people to fight for you? I mean, you're not technically hurting anyone. It's efficient. It's the kind of fighting style a loner might have, because he has nobody to watch his back.

 

The only things watching Solas' back are the hollow eyesockets of his fallen foes! Mwahahahaha! Sorry, but I love this now.

 

It even fits in with the crazy theories surrounding Solas and Falon'Din. 

 

Maybe... but, I also have to think that a necromancer would be unlikely to be a romance option.  Kind of like if I'm right about the ancient elf theory.  And then Carpool might be right and we'd get the Warden instead.  Which is great for some people, but my Dalish Inquisitor would be very, very lonely.



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Maybe... but, I also have to think that a necromancer would be unlikely to be a romance option.  Kind of like if I'm right about the ancient elf theory.  And then Carpool might be right and we'd get the Warden instead.  Which is great for some people, but my Dalish Inquisitor would be very, very lonely.

 

Morrigan was romancable, and she could turn into a spider.

 

As for your quizzy, there's always (potentially) Sera if you're set on an elf. You may not be attracted to women, but it seems you are restricting yourself a lot by making your Inquisitor racist.



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Discussion of Solace makes want him in my main party. Thinking about it...  I imagine he be would a great asset or... an excellent rival. 



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Morrigan was romancable, and she could turn into a spider.

 

As for your quizzy, there's always (potentially) Sera if you're set on an elf. You may not be attracted to women, but it seems you are restricting yourself a lot by making your Inquisitor racist.

 

It's not that my Inquisitor will be racist.  It is that she is Dalish, and the Dalish are dying out.  Therefore, it's as much duty as anything else that she'd want to be with another elf... to increase the elven population.  If she wound up with any other race, her children would not be elves.  And if she were to take up with a woman, she wouldn't have children at all.  So while her ultimate goal in life is not "have babies," if she's going to indulge in romance at all, it will be with an elf.  Specifically it will be with a male elf.  Otherwise, she will be alone, and it will not really be an issue in the end, except that I will be a bit disappointed for missing out on the romance in the story.

 

My qunari will be much less selective.


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If he's a Fade expert he might be a Rift Mage, poking holes in the fabric of reality for fun and profit.

Dorian or whoever the Magister character is might be a necromancer. Maevrais Tillani talks about how she's heard rumors of a Magister exiled to the Anderfels who's figured a way to restore life to a person by grafting a spirit to their physical body. Sounds necromancer-y to me.

Considering that specs are apparently more "narrative-focused" in Inquisition we might be picking up new tricks from our companions. Rift Mage could be Solas' attempt to have a mage Inquisitor use the green glow as something other than a supernatural garage door opener.
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It's not that my Inquisitor will be racist.  It is that she is Dalish, and the Dalish are dying out.  Therefore, it's as much duty as anything else that she'd want to be with another elf... to increase the elven population.  If she wound up with any other race, her children would not be elves.  And if she were to take up with a woman, she wouldn't have children at all.  So while her ultimate goal in life is not "have babies," if she's going to indulge in romance at all, it will be with an elf.  Specifically it will be with a male elf.  Otherwise, she will be alone, and it will not really be an issue in the end, except that I will be a bit disappointed for missing out on the romance in the story.

 

My qunari will be much less selective.

 

I get that. But if Solas is a City Elf, wouldn't she think him beneath her? It's a bit like an arranged marriage where you don't know the other person. 

 

OK I'm just going to cut out everything I was going to say as far as "What ifs" and go with "the heart wants what it wants". But I would (and did) overthink that sort of decision into oblivion, it's just difficult for me to understand I guess. :)

 

If he's a Fade expert he might be a Rift Mage, poking holes in the fabric of reality for fun and profit.

Dorian or whoever the Magister character is might be a necromancer. Maevrais Tillani talks about how she's heard rumors of a Magister exiled to the Anderfels who's figured a way to restore life to a person by grafting a spirit to their physical body. Sounds necromancer-y to me.

Considering that specs are apparently more "narrative-focused" in Inquisition we might be picking up new tricks from our companions. Rift Mage could be Solas' attempt to have a mage Inquisitor use the green glow as something other than a supernatural garage door opener.

 

I'd forgotten about that part of the comics. Thanks, Doc.



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If he's a Fade expert he might be a Rift Mage, poking holes in the fabric of reality for fun and profit.

Dorian or whoever the Magister character is might be a necromancer. Maevrais Tillani talks about how she's heard rumors of a Magister exiled to the Anderfels who's figured a way to restore life to a person by grafting a spirit to their physical body. Sounds necromancer-y to me.

Considering that specs are apparently more "narrative-focused" in Inquisition we might be picking up new tricks from our companions. Rift Mage could be Solas' attempt to have a mage Inquisitor use the green glow as something other than a supernatural garage door opener.

 

Forgot about that bit from the comics, and I never thought about it that way, very interesting... 

 

Hmm...  So in this scenario, if Mr Mustache is the Necromancer and Solas is the Rift Mage, I guess that makes Vivienne the Knight Enchanter.   :wizard:


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I get that. But if Solas is a City Elf, wouldn't she think him beneath her? It's a bit like an arranged marriage where you don't know the other person. 

 

OK I'm just going to cut out everything I was going to say as far as "What ifs" and go with "the heart wants what it wants". But I would (and did) overthink that sort of decision into oblivion, it's just difficult for me to understand I guess. :)

 

 

I'd forgotten about that part of the comics. Thanks, Doc.

 

 

Not all Dalish look at things that way.  And, if Solas ends up not being "her type," she'll pass him by anyway.

 

Think of my Dalish as being mostly asexual, and you'll probably have hit the nail on the head.  Or, if she isn't mostly asexual, it's more that she nevertheless doesn't follow through, most of the time.  She might want a piece of Cullen (or DHMG if he's available, or Warden if it's him instead of Solas), but then the Dalish wouldn't be too pleased if she had a human child.  She might not be able to go back to her people.  It's more acceptable to have a child with a city elf than with a human.

 

And, let's be honest.  Solas is a mage.  Dalish are more likely to make exceptions for "flat-ears" who are mages, and as I see it, my Inquisitor won't be particularly snooty in the first place.  Just choosy about who she reproduces with, if anyone.  So she'd be open to the possibility, but again, if he turns out to be someone she wouldn't care for, she'd pass him by along with everyone else.  Repopulating the Dalish is not her life goal, any more than having children at all is.  It's just a bonus.  Her primary focus will be closing the Breach.  And she might be interested in helping out the city elves.  (Read:  She probably will be.  She's not like SOME Dalish...)

 

But enough about my Dalish mage Inquisitor...

 

I will be disappointed if Solas is unavailable to my Inquisitors, but, I'll live.  More so if Warden is chosen over Solas.  Iron Bull I could live with, even though I'm not wild about him, because a qunari romance would definitely be unique and new.  DHMG is not my top pick, but he's cute, so if he's available I can't complain much--but I won't be able to pursue him as the Dalish due to my notion of how she'd look at relationships with humans.  And yet I fully expect a firestorm when everyone learns they can't have who they wanted in their playthrough.


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Forgot about that bit from the comics, and I never thought about it that way, very interesting... 

 

Hmm...  So in this scenario, if Mr Mustache is the Necromancer and Solas is the Rift Mage, I guess that makes Vivienne the Knight Enchanter.    :wizard:

 

 

If she is, it will just make her more awesome and I don't know if I can deal with that. :D

 

Not all Dalish look at things that way.  And, if Solas ends up not being "her type," she'll pass him by anyway.

 

Think of my Dalish as being mostly asexual, and you'll probably have hit the nail on the head.  Or, if she isn't mostly asexual, it's more that she nevertheless doesn't follow through, most of the time.  She might want a piece of Cullen (or DHMG if he's available, or Warden if it's him instead of Solas), but then the Dalish wouldn't be too pleased if she had a human child.  She might not be able to go back to her people.  It's more acceptable to have a child with a city elf than with a human.

 

And, let's be honest.  Solas is a mage.  Dalish are more likely to make exceptions for "flat-ears" who are mages, and as I see it, my Inquisitor won't be particularly snooty in the first place.  Just choosy about who she reproduces with, if anyone.  So she'd be open to the possibility, but again, if he turns out to be someone she wouldn't care for, she'd pass him by along with everyone else.  Repopulating the Dalish is not her life goal, any more than having children at all is.  It's just a bonus.  Her primary focus will be closing the Breach.  And she might be interested in helping out the city elves.  (Read:  She probably will be.  She's not like SOME Dalish...)

 

But enough about my Dalish mage Inquisitor...

 

I will be disappointed if Solas is unavailable to my Inquisitors, but, I'll live.  More so if Warden is chosen over Solas.  Iron Bull I could live with, even though I'm not wild about him, because a qunari romance would definitely be unique and new.  DHMG is not my top pick, but he's cute, so if he's available I can't complain much--but I won't be able to pursue him as the Dalish due to my notion of how she'd look at relationships with humans.  And yet I fully expect a firestorm when everyone learns they can't have who they wanted in their playthrough.

 

OK. I see what you mean. I think how many exceptions the Dalish would make might depend on which clan Lavellan comes from though. But I would completely fail if I attempted to play like that on my first playthrough. I would just fall for someone against my will anyway. With my record I'll end up with Cullen (who I kind of hate).


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Well, in any event...
/waits for Friday/

And I didn't know Solas was in that dragon fighting picture. Look at that tiny!Solas and tiny!Varric and tiny!Cassandra. I feel like I'm playing 'where is Waldo' with him and screenshots. (that and Varric, especially when he was hidden behind Cassandra in one of the screenshots)


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I can't remember if anyone posted this already but I came across this older picture by accident, and I noticed someone standing in the background.

 

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There's a mysterious, shadowy Solas figure for you (with his furry shoulder outfit :P)

Dear god I don't have anything to do, Maker help me...


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