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So, just going to reiterate my thoughts on Solas from much, much earlier in this thread;
I don't think Solas is going to be tied into the elf rebellion subplot for the game much at all. He'll likely have an opinion on it, but I see that subplot being Sera's. I think Solas is going to be tied heavily to the mage subplot as a counter to Vivienne, and that DHMG will be the odd mage out on that one.
^ yeah fiend :] I get the feeling that Viv will support the whole circle tower mage thing and Solas will be against it. of course she'll shoot insults at his clothing XD but that's to be expected from someone who's orlesian xD
Everything points to him being Vivienne's counter; all you have to do is look at the clothes they wear; but it's somewhat difficult to picture a Dalish elf being concerned with the Circles. Probably because Vellana's and Merril's interests lay with the elves.
I imagine he'll disagree with her on philosophical principles rather than him being a mage freedom figther.
It's hard to guess what Solas will be focused on right now. What I'm hoping for is that Sera is related to Briala and the city elves, with Solas being related to whatever Felessan was up to. I don't know if there's enough evidence to suggest it will happen, but that seems like the most interesting configuration, to me. I don't really need multiple characters just to represent mage freedom vs the circle again. I think it's gotten more focus than it needed already. Solas and Dorian can represent free mages while doing other things, anyway. I'm pretty sure Vivienne is already there to represent the circle and Celene, since she's the court mage, as well as being pro-circle.
As far as I'm aware there is no evidence of Solas being dalish and a little evidence against it; lack of facial tattoos and preference for wearing shoes.
It does seem interesting to me that both of the elven companions would be city elves when the elven inquisitor has to be dalish.
Solas could be for a greater proximity between the material world and the Fade; he was described as a Fade expert.
Of course, that would go against the Inquisition's goals.
I put absolutely zero weight into the Solas/Felassan connection. Is it possible? Sure. But it's just wild speculation.
So, just going to reiterate my thoughts on Solas from much, much earlier in this thread;
I don't think Solas is going to be tied into the elf rebellion subplot for the game much at all. He'll likely have an opinion on it, but I see that subplot being Sera's. I think Solas is going to be tied heavily to the mage subplot as a counter to Vivienne, and that DHMG will be the odd mage out on that one.
You're probably right. But I kind of hope Solas is the odd one out. A loner of sorts who lives off the land and doesn't interact with anyone often. But that's not very likely.
I think The Masked Empire will have a decent amount of impact on the story. Asunder is shaping up to have a decent amount and I think The Masked Empire could be comparable. It's possible that Felassan's plot will just never come up again, but I think it likely will have an influence on DA:I, which is what makes it seem likely to me that Solas could be tied into it. Of course, it might not happen, but I think there's decent validity to it being possible.
To be honest, I also think the warden might turn out to be related to The Last Flight in some way.
For me, it's always come down to the fact that Solas and Vivienne are complete opposites, visually. I've taken that, perhaps mistakenly, as visual shorthand that they'll be complete opposites in terms of goals and personality, as well. Given that we know Vivienne's primary concern is the circle system, I have to assume that Solas is going to be diametrically opposed to her on it.
I could well be wrong and reading into the design choices a bit too much. It may even be complete coincidence that the two look so different. But this is the theory I'm going with.
I think The Masked Empire will have a decent amount of impact on the story. Asunder is shaping up to have a decent amount and I think The Masked Empire could be comparable. It's possible that Felassan's plot will just never come up again, but I think it likely will have an influence on DA:I, which is what makes it seem likely to me that Solas could be tied into it. Of course, it might not happen, but I think there's decent validity to it being possible.
To be honest, I also think the warden might turn out to be related to The Last Flight in some way.
I don't doubt that The Masked Empire's plot will come up. I don't even doubt that whatever the entity that Felassan was working for is, it may well be the big bad of the game.
I just see Solas being lumped as the one with the connection to that as being based entirely off "He's a bald elf mage." The whole "fade expert" description is so vague it's essentially meaningless without further explanation so I don't think that's enough to hang this theory on.
Personally, I don't think any companion has to be connected to Felassan's story for it to be a major part of the game. Especially if his boss turns out to be the big bad, then the person directly connected to that plot is going to be the Inquisitor.
his features are so sharp they could chop veg and drop bad guys along with inquisitorial pants. i dig it
For me, it's always come down to the fact that Solas and Vivienne are complete opposites, visually. I've taken that, perhaps mistakenly, as visual shorthand that they'll be complete opposites in terms of goals and personality, as well. Given that we know Vivienne's primary concern is the circle system, I have to assume that Solas is going to be diametrically opposed to her on it.
I could well be wrong and reading into the design choices a bit too much. It may even be complete coincidence that the two look so different. But this is the theory I'm going with.
Solas could be the living, breathing embodiment of the ideals that directly oppose Vivienne without him having to actively play an anti-Circle role. I don't think he has to be a vocal advocate for mage freedom or be some revolutionary figure, he could provide an opposing perspective just by existing and being an example of what a free mage actually is. Instead of being some radical or victimized mage, he could just be a person practicing his craft, researching and learning cautiously, and existing peacefully in the world. It'd be interesting to see what a Chantry/Circle sympathizer would make of someone who is living proof that mages can exist without Templar watchdogs. Obviously someone who wants to live free would be opposed the Circles, but maybe Solas focuses on goals and problems that are larger than the mage/templar war so he's sort of an outsider in the conflict.
If his freedom was threatened I think he'd resist, but there's always the possibility that he's lived in isolation so long that the issue hasn't come up in a while.
Edit: Vivienne and Solas could also be opposites in how they express their views. Vivi could be a vocal supporter of the Circle system while Solas passively expresses his anti-Circle ideals through the way he lives and practices magic.
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I could see Solas being very dismissive with Vivienne, like if she tried to criticize his apostate lifestyle I could see him shooing her away like an irritating insect. His wardrobe actually tells me that he finds himself to be above insignificant worldly distractions like fashion, so maybe his understanding of the Fade and the danger the thinning Veil poses makes the mage/templar war seem like children squabbling over something petty while the world collapses around them.
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While I could easily see Solas not having much to do with either the plight of the elves or the mages and being a loner (in fact this is my gut impression), what gives me pause is how Sera is described in the survey. She doesn't identify with City Elf culture, and she isn't Dalish either. Her main concern is gaining treasure. Maybe that's changed or maybe she changes her mind at some point in the plot, but I dunno. Having *both* elven companions with no major association with the elven plot would be a little strange. Solas' apostate description does give more weight to his involvement with the mages if anything, but that doesn't mean he'll have nothing to do with the elven plot. If nothing else, I default suspicion onto him because Sera feels unlikely and he's the only other elf *and* he's a mage.
Just all this mystery.
It's an interesting analysis. I just have a hard time believing the marketing people who made the trailer put that much work into matching the members of the Inquisition to biblical figures. They'd have been much better off devoting that time to helping whoever was supposed to do the dev diaries, or follower friday. Though it's nice to see Solas isn't made Judas for once.
I agree with you, but I couldn't help but chuckle at the fact that Varric's biblical counterpart is a storyteller. 
As for Solas being related to Felassan, I think that'd be interesting, but I don't know how likely it is. Some argue that his violet eyes might be a clue (since Felassan had violet eyes as well), but I wouldn't put too much stock into that because, like Varric's hair, the color could change.
While I could easily see Solas not having much to do with either the plight of the elves or the mages and being a loner (in fact this is my gut impression), what gives me pause is how Sera is described in the survey. She doesn't identify with City Elf culture, and she isn't Dalish either. Her main concern is gaining treasure. Maybe that's changed or maybe she changes her mind at some point in the plot, but I dunno. Having *both* elven companions with no major association with the elven plot would be a little strange. Solas' apostate description does give more weight to his involvement with the mages if anything, but that doesn't mean he'll have nothing to do with the elven plot. If nothing else, I default suspicion onto him because Sera feels unlikely and he's the only other elf *and* he's a mage.
Just all this mystery.
Maybe they're setting it up so we're on the outer. People were so put off by being forced to side one way or the other in DA2, perhaps this time they are giving us less internal (as in the group) pressure and more external pressure (Briala, etc). Having an elf who doesn't care about CEs despite being one, and another who is so removed from them that they don't know much about them might be a more interesting starting point. Especially since neither are Dalish, so there is no pressure from that group internally either (unless you roll Dalish). What it comes down to is, do we really need an advocate for the elves in the group?
Another interesting question might be, does Vivienne really need a foil? She's not exactly the best representative of the circle. She's flawed and could potentially turn people off of the idea if the PC doesn't like her. All indications thus far have been that she is strictly a love her or hate her type of character.
As for Solas being related to Felassan, I think that'd be interesting, but I don't know how likely it is. Some argue that his violet eyes might be a clue (since Felassan had violet eyes as well), but I wouldn't put too much stock into that because, like Varric's hair, the color could change.
I'm still confused on where it was said Solas has violet eyes. 
But also, I could have sworn Cassandra had black hair before. Now it looks auburn. What gives?
I could not unsee it, so I did a thing. I give you... Solas Eastwood.
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Yes! Solas has the perfect face for a badass. There's no reason why this can't be, Bioware.
It was never officially confirmed, but in one of the screenshots, his eyes look violet to some. I can't really see what his exact eye color is at all, but I'm not good at distinguishing shades of color anyway. x.xI'm still confused on where it was said Solas has violet eyes.
But also, I could have sworn Cassandra had black hair before. Now it looks auburn. What gives?
I'm still confused on where it was said Solas has violet eyes.
Close-up of one of the more recent screenshots of him.
Maybe they're setting it up so we're on the outer. People were so put off by being forced to side one way or the other in DA2, perhaps this time they are giving us less internal (as in the group) pressure and more external pressure (Briala, etc). Having an elf who doesn't care about CEs despite being one, and another who is so removed from them that they don't know much about them might be a more interesting starting point. Especially since neither are Dalish, so there is no pressure from that group internally either (unless you roll Dalish). What it comes down to is, do we really need an advocate for the elves in the group?
Another interesting question might be, does Vivienne really need a foil? She's not exactly the best representative of the circle. She's flawed and could potentially turn people off of the idea if the PC doesn't like her. All indications thus far have been that she is strictly a love her or hate her type of character.
It's possible, but while we've been told the companions are less extreme in their viewpoints than DA2, they still need to be relevant somehow. When it comes to Solas in particular, we know too little about him to really begin to determine what he may or may not be involved in. And Masked Empire implies that what's going on with the elves isn't going to be insignificant, and if so, it's likely one of the elves in our party is going to touch on that. Solas is simply most likely all considered. Maybe not necessarily as an "advocate" for anything, but he may end up significant in that storyline. Or maybe he's trying to help the mages. Or both.
Or maybe he's just a hermit-y elf mage fascinated by your glowy fade hand and it doesn't go further than that.
It's easier to come up with theories than to disprove things right now. 
And I don't know that Vivienne *needs* a foil, but we know there's some other mage in the party she doesn't get along with. It might just be severe fashion disagreements, but given her personal politics, I suspect it isn't that simple... Might not even be Solas, but...
Theories are all we have.It's possible, but while we've been told the companions are less extreme in their viewpoints than DA2, they still need to be relevant somehow. When it comes to Solas in particular, we know too little about him to really begin to determine what he may or may not be involved in. And Masked Empire implies that what's going on with the elves isn't going to be insignificant, and if so, it's likely one of the elves in our party is going to touch on that. Solas is simply most likely all considered. Maybe not necessarily as an "advocate" for anything, but he may end up significant in that storyline. Or maybe he's trying to help the mages. Or both.
Or maybe he's just a hermit-y elf mage fascinated by your glowy fade hand and it doesn't go further than that.
It's easier to come up with theories than to disprove things right now.
And I don't know that Vivienne *needs* a foil, but we know there's some other mage in the party she doesn't get along with. It might just be severe fashion disagreements, but given her personal politics, I suspect it isn't that simple... Might not even be Solas, but...
Theories are all we have.
It just seems to me that apart from everyone expecting companions to represent factions, there is really no reason they need to support any cause in particular from the outset. They just need a reason for being in the Inquisition. Solas and Sera can play a part in the elven rebellion story without a reason other than they happen to be elves and if their character growth is linked to that storyline it will feel more organic. Solas is relevant to the story by virtue of being a Fade expert. Sera has access to a network of thieves. My point was do they really need to come to us wanting to help X group? I don't think there is any reason they need to, other than that story is easier to write. Which means Sera can not care, and Solas can be oblivious and the rebellion can still play a large part.
As for Vivienne, regardless of her political views I'd be surprised if there weren't companions who didn't like her based on what we've seen of her personality. To me she comes across as too self-interested to be presented as a fair representative of the Circle, which I take to mean she doesn't need an anti-circle apostate as a counter. She is already telling players that the system isn't perfect just by existing.
This exactly, and I really hope this is how it pans out. I'd rather return to the Origins style of companions, where each offered a unique perspective because of who and what they were, but they weren't beating you over the head with their allegiances like, well, Fenris and Anders. The presence of an actual "big bad" in this game makes me more confident that this won't be a situation where you just have diametrically opposed companions shouting at one another all the time for the sake of illustrating a specific position. So I guess I see Vivienne and Solas as characters who probably won't get along just because they're different sorts of people, rather than characters who are going to be at each other's throats because of a political dispute in which you'll have to take a side. I'm hoping, anyway. I enjoy the character interaction a lot more when there's some nuance, as well as the more organic character growth you talked about, Banxey, and I know the BioWare writers can do it well.
As for Vivienne, she strikes me as someone who's going to do what's best for Vivienne. A pragmatist. This is not a woman who'd blow up a building to prove a point.
I'm so excited to meet her, even though I expect I may pull the occasional "Disapprove -20" from her. Probably for some egregious sin like choosing the wrong boots for my armor. Or sleeping with bald elves who have odd taste in outerwear.
Theories are all we have.
Yep, I totally agree!
And that's pretty much how it's going to be till we get some more info on Solas and the other companions.
Even though it's speculation I don't like this "Who's Judas?" that everybody is talking about,just like the past 2 games we have had companions who we can either friend and get their loyalty to where they stick with you no matter what or not meaning we had a choice to friend them or not...I liked those choices and hope that's what it will be on DA:I, I really hope they don't pull another Anders that's for sure and maybe they won't. I loved Anders and I still do! ♥
I wonder if we will be able to give them gifts like the past 2 games...hmmmm wonder what Solas would go for? A Dragons claw or tooth,a blanket..or a sweater with love in every stitch! 
Oh my GOD have ya'll seen the collectors edition?
http://forum.bioware.../#entry16587157
I want to buy it but I want to wait to see if Solas can be romanceable for my female inquisitor...I know that sounds silly but I want to know more about the companions and this game before I cut off my arm and leg to pay for one lol!
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