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The Solas Thread - Speculation, Scotch Bonnets, and Long Johns


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thank you :) glad to see the info- am super excited about Solas (as I said elsewhere, I heart bald guys)- but I really loved reading about Cole in Asunder, so I'm excited about him possibly being a comp.  I've had to stay away from the Cole character thread though, too much LI spec (at least in the beginning, not sure what its evolved into), which skeeves me out a little

 

The Cole thread I made here in Story & Character Discussion is pretty safe.  Some people were saying he could be a romance.  I do not think so.  Even if he were mentally mature, I think he's asexual.  If he were to become mentally mature in a decade or so (which may not even be possible), I get the feeling he wouldn't really be into the physical aspect even then.

 

But, we were here to discuss a certain bald elf, not Cole.

 

But, speaking of Solas and Cole, if Cole's a companion, I wonder how Solas would react to him?  I mean he's an apostate, right?  He could even be a blood mage, or something.

 

And yet, I think we're going to get Cullen instead of Cole, so... sparks would fly between Solas and Cullen for sure!



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She's the amazingly beautiful warrior Seeker that takes no crap from anyone.  Sorry if that scares you.   :P

 

That's about how i view her you realize?

 

Hence my desire for her to be an LI and all ._.



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No way they'd make Cole a LI without breaking his personality. And that wouldn't be Cole anymore, just another ghost.



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That's about how i view her you realize?

 

Hence my desire for her to be an LI and all ._.

Calling her a scary lady in text isn't the best way to convey your interest in her as a LI, unless you add that you like it that way.   ;)



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The Cole thread I made here in Story & Character Discussion is pretty safe.  Some people were saying he could be a romance.  I do not think so.  Even if he were mentally mature, I think he's asexual.  If he were to become mentally mature in a decade or so (which may not even be possible), I get the feeling he wouldn't really be into the physical aspect even then.

 

But, we were here to discuss a certain bald elf, not Cole.

 

But, speaking of Solas and Cole, if Cole's a companion, I wonder how Solas would react to him?  I mean he's an apostate, right?  He could even be a blood mage, or something.

 

And yet, I think we're going to get Cullen instead of Cole, so... sparks would fly between Solas and Cullen for sure!

I think the interaction between Cullen and Solas might be a little... well, stale, TBH.  "What's that you say?  A templar comp who constatnly disagrees w/ the apostate mage?  How original..."  My feelings there probably stem from the general oversaturation of mage vs templar though, and the fact that I'm not real fond of Cullen in general, and definitely not really interested in getting to know him as a follower.

 

However, if Solas is our fade expert comp, I think the interaction and relationaship between the two would be really cool.  I mean, my own take on Cole is that he's a corrupted spirit who is powerful enough to manifest outside of the Fade without needing to posess a body, possibly with the help of blood magic.  I wonder what a Fade expert would make of that?  Rhys is something of a spirit savant himself, and he was totally confused by Cole for the whole book, what would Solas think?  And here's a thought... could Solas be a blood mage?  I don't get that from him, and we already Merrill, so that might feel a little redundant, but it would make for an interesting change in the dynamic, if Cole turns out to be a comp and is, indeed, a corrupted spirit



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No way they'd make Cole a LI without breaking his personality. And that wouldn't be Cole anymore, just another ghost.

 

Definitely not disagreeing with you there.

 

Again, I think he is asexual, as in, even if he understood sex he still wouldn't feel any drive to engage in it.  He may eventually mentally mature given a decade or so and proper socialization, but since his body is physically mature I don't foresee him suddenly becoming interested in carnal pleasure regardless.  And that's part of why I personally like Cole:  because he exists apart from all of the romantic entanglements that this forum is prone to.  But mostly I like him because he's a very interesting character.

 

But yes, I wonder how Solas would interact with Cole.  As a mage he's bound to realize that there's something up with that kid.  If he's a Fade expert, well, he might even be able to tell us what the heck Cole is--spirit, demon, or something else entirely.

 

And Cullen vs. Solas?  Oh come on, who doesn't want to see Solas interact with Cullen?  Templar and apostate.  Classic rivalry!  Classic enmity...



#1882
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Calling her a scary lady in text isn't the best way to convey your interest in her as a LI, unless you add that you like it that way.   ;)

He was referring to the picture having a speech bubble that says scary looking lady.



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He was referring to the picture having a speech bubble that says scary looking lady.

Ah, see I missed that.  Forgive me.  Despite the coffee, I'm fighting off being sick and I'm going to bed soon.  Mea culpa Z.  <bow>



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And Cullen vs. Solas?  Oh come on, who doesn't want to see Solas interact with Cullen?  Templar and apostate.  Classic rivalry!  Classic enmity...

 

 

Lol, not my cup of tea, really.  Haven't ever really liked Cullen that much- felt sorry for him in DAO, and thought he definitely wasn't damaged enough for a trauma survivor and psycho murderer (if he is the version of Cullen who went nuts and killed a bunch of apprentices for no reason before running off, cackling into the night) in DA2.  On the other hand, the magical Bio-writers are SO good at characterization and story arc that if Cullen ends up as a comp I'll probably fall all over myself with d'awws, squees, and fan-girl enthusiasm for him before the game is half over.  I trust I'll love, or love to hate, whoever they provide us with for comps.

 

On the LI front, I think it might be neat if our major romance options weren't comps at all, but rather major NPC's.  Granted, I've been a dwarven fangirl from my first playthrough of DAO with my tough little casteless Brosca, and I'm pretty determined that my saucy dwarven, roguish inquisitor will pursue Varric to the end, even if she never gets past Bianca's stirrup, but I think it might be nice for a Bioware hero to have some sort of major connection that is outside her day-job, so to speak.

 

On the other other hand, I really, really love bald guys.  (I think it's probably got something to do with a Drill Sergeant I had in Basic, way back when...  Which is mildly disturbing to contemplate.)  I've been pretty ready to gush on about Solas since I first saw that character footage.  The fact that he's a mage also makes him tasty-licious in my opinion- power and beauty, an irresistable combo. 


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He was referring to the picture having a speech bubble that says scary looking lady.

Ha, i think it was Vivi btw.



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You know what, I don't want Cullen as a companion anymore.

 

I don't think I'd be able to stand the banter between him and Solas.

Templar and apostate... 

Maker no. Please, no.



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You know what, I don't want Cullen as a companion anymore.

 

I don't think I'd be able to stand the banter between him and Solas.

Templar and apostate... 

Maker no. Please, no.

 

I feel like they would try to make their relationship/banter unique and not just a rehash of the same old argument. The writers are likely just as aware as the fans of how predictable that dynamic is.



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The Cole thread I made here in Story & Character Discussion is pretty safe. Some people were saying he could be a romance. I do not think so. Even if he were mentally mature, I think he's asexual. If he were to become mentally mature in a decade or so (which may not even be possible), I get the feeling he wouldn't really be into the physical aspect even then.

But, we were here to discuss a certain bald elf, not Cole.

But, speaking of Solas and Cole, if Cole's a companion, I wonder how Solas would react to him? I mean he's an apostate, right? He could even be a blood mage, or something.


If Solas is Dalish, there could be issues of distrust with Cole, given how the People view all spirits as dangerous.

I'm wondering how the Inquisitor is going to come across Solas, since I imagine his expertise would be valuable for the crisis with the veil tears.

And yet, I think we're going to get Cullen instead of Cole, so... sparks would fly between Solas and Cullen for sure!


A Dalish or apostate of any variety (from hedge witch to runaway Circle mage) is likely to have philosophical conflicts with a templar.

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It's pretty funny that Solas' thread has become the hub of romance discussion considering it's history. I hope they throw in some non-follower romances though so they can lump Cullen in there and leave more slots open for female party members and dudes with fantastic shoulders as romances.

 

I also hope Cullen fans have bad eyesight.

 

It actually is pretty bad lol but I'm wearing my glasses :wizard:


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#1890
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I actually think Cullen's got better chances at being a companion than Cole does.  We haven't seen anything regarding Cole at all and the devs have no issue with the Cullen fans.

 

True but I really don't think that's how they make decisions as to which characters become romance options. It has to suit the story.

 

 

Not being a particular fan or detractor of Cullen, though, I think I'd prefer to romance Solas (if I like his personality) just because Solas is a new character.  I kind of feel like Cullen's going to be too, well, "Alistair."  Which is not bad; when DA:O came out I adored Alistair.  But replaying DA:O now, I don't know why I liked him so well.  I admit, I kinda dislike him, now, and I'm not 100% sure why.

 

I never got to romance Alistair because I just couldn't force myself to play a female character for some reason (though I have several female Hawke's).

 

I've seen this comparison before though and it always confuses me greatly; there's a large age gap between the two characters for one thing; Cullen is far, far more mature than Alistair ever was (and probably ever will be); I also think Cullen is more flawed. Cullen also stands very, very firm in his core beliefs, whereas Alistair is pretty much the definition of wishy-washy.

 

They are both attractive men who are of the warrior class; that's about the only similarities.

 

 

... I really have no idea, but somehow I suspect the devs are showing off Solas in tight trousers for a reason.

 

LOL Now that's a clue I hadn't really thought to count! :lol:



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Ehm...Solas!Solas seems to be a rather intriguing character so far...There are some who speculate that he originates from Tevinter which I kinda doubt for some reason although it is highly possible

 

It really saddens me that he isn't Dorian.  <_< I was super, super intrigued that an elf could be a former Tevinter magister. What an awesome perspective he would have. Ohhh weeell.  <_<

 

BUT I mean this is BioWare; Solas is guaranteed to be an interesting and well-written character. 


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But, speaking of Solas and Cole, if Cole's a companion, I wonder how Solas would react to him?  I mean he's an apostate, right?  He could even be a blood mage, or something.

 

And yet, I think we're going to get Cullen instead of Cole, so... sparks would fly between Solas and Cullen for sure!

 

I bet Solas would be EXTREMELY intrigued by Cole; I mean, he's a Fade expert, right? He might actually drive Cole crazy with all his questions! I can see Cole putting his hands over his ears and making a face at Solas :lol:

 

I don't see sparks flying between Cullen and Solas just yet since we know nothing about Solas... I'm really getting a very mature and cunning sort of feel from him, not necessarily wreckless, and there doesn't seem to be indication that he's a blood mage (but then again, looking at Merrill, would you think...?)


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It really saddens me that he isn't Dorian.

 

Maybe he is Dorian and they just changed his name. I kinda hope so, I really liked what I read in the survey.



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Definitely not disagreeing with you there.

 

Again, I think he is asexual, as in, even if he understood sex he still wouldn't feel any drive to engage in it.  He may eventually mentally mature given a decade or so and proper socialization, but since his body is physically mature I don't foresee him suddenly becoming interested in carnal pleasure regardless. 

 

And Cullen vs. Solas?  Oh come on, who doesn't want to see Solas interact with Cullen?  Templar and apostate.  Classic rivalry!  Classic enmity...

 

With Cole, everything is speculation at this point though. I was one of those who wanted to romance him  ^_^ ... I took it at face value that he was as old as he looked, and then that final chapter, he seemed to come into his own. But then DG was shocked that people wanted to romance Cole and said he had the mind of a child, and I was like,  :o ... Who wants to romance a child?!?! It killed all my cute little fantasies. Ah well.

 

I don't think Cullen will be a classic templar in DA:I, so I don't anticipate him complaining about apostates. His character's far too complex to get stuck in that same old rut. So, again, I think his interaction with Solas will be fairly sedate... unless Solas is a blood mage lol



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I bet Solas would be EXTREMELY intrigued by Cole; I mean, he's a Fade expert, right? He might actually drive Cole crazy with all his questions! I can see Cole putting his hands over his ears and making a face Solas :lol:

 

I don't see sparks flying between Cullen and Solas just yet since we know nothing about Solas... I'm really getting a very mature and cunning sort of feel from him, not necessarily wreckless, and there doesn't seem to be indication that he's a blood mage (but then again, looking at Merrill, would you think...?)

Speaking of Merril,in origins she didn't give me the naive/innocent vibe she had in DA2...She seemed like a whole different person although we did have limited interaction with her...(And voice acting can do miracles in shaping a character)



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Maybe he is Dorian and they just changed his name. I kinda hope so, I really liked what I read in the survey.

 

Me, too. That's definitely a possibility. 



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Speaking of Merril,in origins she didn't give me the naive/innocent vibe she had in DA2...She seemed like a whole different person although we did have limited interaction with her...(And voice acting can do miracles in shaping a character)

 

Oh man, she's a totally different character! All the moaning and groaning that gets done about Anders, and it's Merrill people should be beotching about. I played DA2 first, then went back and play DA:O and DA:A. Anders seemed like the exact same character, especially when I factored Justice into the equation. But Merrill? Totally. Different.

 

I'm pretty sure she and my Mahariel did not get along lol She was kinda stuck up. 



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Maybe he is Dorian and they just changed his name. I kinda hope so, I really liked what I read in the survey.

 

And, since this seems to be a persistent notion: Solas is not the "Dorian" from the survey. He was never that character. As to who Solas is... well, I suppose you'll all have to wait and see.

 

He squished our hopes on that subject pretty thoroughly :(  I just hope this Dorian fellow is in the game in some way, he sounds exciting!



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Oh man, she's a totally different character! All the moaning and groaning that gets done about Anders, and it's Merrill people should be beotching about. I played DA2 first, then went back and play DA:O and DA:A. Anders seemed like the exact same character, especially when I factored Justice into the equation. But Merrill? Totally. Different.

 

I'm pretty sure she and my Mahariel did not get along lol She was kinda stuck up. 

Yes she did seem rather snooty in DAO although I liked her much better in DA2(Eve Myles is just awesome!)...That' the main reason I'm not that much against the concept of npc's becoming companions,since we know nothing about them...

About Solas and possible companion interaction,one person I expect Solas to have a hard time getting along with is Vivienne...For Cullen I can't really say yet since I don't know where his loyalties lie  at the  moment, or what kind of mindset he towards the order has after realising that they're far from incorruptible.Cassandra might be slightly hostile as well,although she doesn't seem to hate mages any more,I expect her to be less friendly towards an apostate.As for Varric,well he get's along with almost everyone,if the have the same moral compass I can see them getting along well.



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I remember D.Gaider saying on his tumblr, that he was very fond of Cole and wanted to explore his character further, if possible. I'd assume he would want to write Cole himself, if there was a chance. That's the reason i doubt Cole will be in DAI as a companion.