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[phyreblade74]

Popping in because I literally just saw this and thought it may be helpful to the Blight-dissection discussion (sorry if old!); 

 

source: http://irabelas.tumblr.com/

 

Also I'll be away for a few days! Have fun, maintain the blanketfort and be excellent to eachother Solasmancers! 

 

Leaving a previously withheld personal report of my Solas experience behind:

Spoiler

 

Last year my best friend died.

 

We were both kind of introverted, and video games have always been a hobby - so that is how we have spent the past 10 years or so together. Playing various mmos. I played healer, he played tank, every game. Stepping into each new fantasy world, hand in hand, the thrill of exploring them... eventually, we ruled each world together. We loved giving ourselves seemingly impossible tasks, and that high when we finally achieved them. We formed guilds together, grew them to be huge in size and success. The kind of trust we built for each other over the years... keeping each other alive in the most extreme circumstances... we knew none of it was "real", and ultimately we would have nothing physical to show for our efforts.... but I trusted him with my life, in game and out. 

 

In reality, we played together every evening; from the moment we got home from work to the moment we went to sleep. It was the waking world that wasn't "real" to us. The adventures we had... those were the experiences which shaped us. And when real life stuff was going down, I always knew that everything would be fine because I always had him waiting in game. And vice versa.

 

We were preparing to play that "ArchAge" game which was about to come out last year. He was able to play a week or so early. I had an invite to the beta too, but I told him I needed to finish a University assignment before I joined him, so I would be a few days late. 

 

Worst. Regret. Ever. A few days later, when I was about to join him, I got a message from his brother telling me that he had died on the way the work. A sudden death, related to his diabetes. 

 

It's not just the mourning that I have found difficult. I still literally have no idea what to do with myself. All of my spare time for the last 10 years has been with him. For him. I have no other purpose. 

I liked the Dragon Age series, I knew that much. So I focused on looking forward to the DA:I release. I hoped.... I needed.... to have a similar experience those I had in DA2 with Varric, and Mass Effect with Garrus. A replicated version of that bros-saving-the-world-together scenario. I... didn't process my best friend's death. I didn't know how. I hadn't even cried. All I could do was look forward to DA:I. 

 

In my first PT, I played the game blind - except for the happy knowledge that Varric was returning. But... soon after starting DA:I, it was clear that Varric was not the same person I remembered from DA2. Writing style? Or deliberately miserable being away from Kirkwall? I wasn't sure. 

 

But this bald elf had swooped in and stolen all of my attention! Where had he come from? How dare he be so interesting! And funny! And, as it seemed then, "safe". Playing a human I couldn't romance him, but, as with Varric, that didn't bother me so much. I never enter a game believing I am going to romance anyone. But... there was a vulnerability to my Inquisitor I couldn't shake. As a mage she had lived, from what I already knew of the lore, isolated in a circle tower her whole life. Everyone she knew at the conclave was killed... she wakes up a prisoner, gaps in her memory - unable to trust her own mind as well as her magic. She needed to trust someone, but no idea who it was safe to trust at the Inquisition. And... no doubt all of this was mixed in with my own, real life emotional vulnerability at this time too. 

 

So... there was Solas being a comforting, knowledgeable bro, slowly "doing a Garrus" on me. And, after the destruction of Haven, I was suddenly suprised by one line with Cullen. Something like, "I am never going to let that happen to you again". Swooon. He wants to protect me, I thought. It was exactly what my Quiz (and myself) needed. So that was the moment I decided my Quiz would be with Cullen in the first PT. 

 

Fast forward to the end of the game, and that stinger reveal. I sucked in and held my breath for the longest time. I guess reading between the lines of Solas deflecting all the time, him turning out to be hiding something wasn't the biggest suprise. What would eventually send me reeling was the realisation that this was the end of the game and oh what a dastardly way to get me to buy DLC. 

 

But... my reaction at the time was perhaps not a sensible one. I started... choke-crying? You know the blubbering that comes with panic and lack of control. It was not anger exactly, but it was directed at Cullen. I was so distraught that he had promised to protect my Quiz (me), and the whole time there was a frickin' old god beside me the whole time with questionable motives at best. You had one job Cullen. You failed so, so gloriously. 

 

As for Solas, that need from him is still there, as an ache. He ticked all the boxes... and then LEFT. Thanks for mimicking real life for me, dude. That is always what I look for in a video game. 

 

One thing I have to thank the game for (if you can see it as a positive?) is that panic attack. Because... it released the flood gates. After my friend had died, I had become numb. Isolated myself, became awfully unhealthy, did the bare minimum each day. For.. over 6 months. And then Solas-angst. Which uh, I guess was feeling something. And then I found my way onto this forum, and started talking to all these wonderful people with the same appreciation for Solas; who were all raw and angsty and in need of blanketfort too. 

 

So I guess what I am meaning to say is, thank all of you for the distraction, and the healing. And... also, I apologise if at any point I have projected my grief onto Solas. 

 

Peace Out

 

There are no words.  Hug and hug some more.

[Colonelkillabee]

If this is the case, then shouldn't Solas be happy the wardens are trying to kill the old gods *before* they're corrupted?

 

I mean, sure the actual plan wasn't gonna work cus Cory was ultimately behind it. But Solas seems to object to the idea of killing Old Gods at all. Or at least killing them in their sleep while untainted. He implies it will lead to unforseen consequences. 

Good point. Unless killing them at all is enough to reach their goal.

 

The unforseen consequences likely goes back to this:

 

http://dragonage.wik...d_Elven_Writing

 

"In this place we prepare to hunt the pillars of the Earth. Their workers scurry, witless, soulless. This death will be a mercy. We will make the earth blossom with their passing." For one moment there is a vivid image of two overlapping spheres; unknown flowers bloom inside their centers. Then it fades.

 

Old gods being the pillars and workers being the darkspawn.

 

[Rabbitonfire]

If this is the case, then shouldn't Solas be happy the wardens are trying to kill the old gods *before* they're corrupted?

 

I mean, sure the actual plan wasn't gonna work cus Cory was ultimately behind it. But Solas seems to object to the idea of killing Old Gods at all. Or at least killing them in their sleep while untainted. He implies it will lead to unforseen consequences. 

 

It amuses me that no one in that crowd at the top of that pic looks happy. lol Solas is angst.

I tried my best to capture the essence of the thread. To be fair, there are some people on here who like Solas as a character and not as a romanced love interest. 

 

edit: and sometimes there are disagreements in various subjects.

[Colonelkillabee]

*blinks*

 

Wait.  You're saying you're starting from the assumption that the Archdemons and the Old Gods are not the same thing?

 

That's... ugh, a lot of back theory to have to write up to counter your foundation there.  Think I'm just going to leave it be.   

 

No, they are, lol, I'm just saying that in the text, they weren't tainted. A tainted old god is what humans call an archdemon. Looking too much into it

[Siha]

If this is the case, then shouldn't Solas be happy the wardens are trying to kill the old gods *before* they're corrupted?

Why would he approve of "mass" murder?

Besides, it would mean killing "his people" and leaving him all alone. I don't see how this would be appealing?

ALSO, so far I have seen no evidence that an old god could actually be killed. Killing the archdemon always only led to the old god soul leaving the body and finding another vessel. I don't yet see how the Wardens would kill souls anyway. Go there, yes. Have a demon army, yes. And then? What do you do? How do you kill a soul? I did not get the impression they had actually thought that plan through all too carefully.

[Colonelkillabee]

I'm getting closer to my answer, I suppose: Who says so where? Maybe that liquid lyrium is important, I do not want to have missed it.

Addai gave the text last time. The other one I'll see in a bit.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

I don't believe the wardens are trying to kill them before they are corrupted? They already know where the old gods are, but the area is always swarmed with Darkspawn. So they just wait until the corruption occurs.

 

[Regardless, I doubt killing the uncorrupted dragons would help much either unfortunately.] 

Normally, they aren't trying to do that, no. Cus its just too hard to get in there to do it to be worth it.  

 

But in Inquisition, that was Clarel's plan. Cus she thought that all the Wardens were gonna die out at once and she decided to try to end the threat of future blights by taking out the remaining old gods now, regardless of their current unblighted status. And they were gonna get past the obstacle of the teeming darkspawn around them via use of their own demon army.

[Siha]

Wait.  You're saying you're starting from the assumption that the Archdemons and the Old Gods are not the same thing?

Is he wrong? I always understood it that way. That the archdemon is just a corrupted dragon's body (I know, that is Dragon's Dogma terminology, but it fits) that harbors an old god soul. No?

[Colonelkillabee]

Why would he approve of "mass" murder?

Besides, it would mean killing "his people" and leaving him all alone. I don't see how this would be appealing?

ALSO, so far I have seen no evidence that an old god could actually be killed. Killing the archdemon always only led to the old god soul leaving the body and finding another vessel. I don't yet see how the Wardens would kill souls anyway. Go there, yes. Have a demon army, yes. And then? What do you do? How do you kill a soul? I did not get the impression they had actually thought that plan through all too carefully.

 

Personally I think the old gods without the taint are weak enough to be killed, like Solas and mythal are supposedly now, minus Mythal trickery like she did with the amulet. I think Corypheus shows that they gain power when tainted. He got his directly from the black city though, which made a human into a god, while the old gods are already. So just being tainted is enough.

[madrar]

Good point. Unless killing them at all is enough to reach their goal.

 

The unforseen consequences likely goes back to this:

 

http://dragonage.wik...d_Elven_Writing

 

 

 

Old gods being the pillars and workers being the darkspawn.

 

That's clearly what you're supposed to think, but it's not an entirely satisfying fit (what are the "flowers" in this scenario?) and should be discarded as obvious bait.

 

I believe the Titans are the intended reference to the "pillars of the world".  The workers are the dwarven race, their "mindlessness" a reference to their early hive mind connection to the Stone.  Spreading red lyrium in both the physical world and the fade (the overlapping circles) is the objective.  No immune system, disease spreads like wildfire.  Stone succumbs.  Sun wins.  Everyone else loses.  No?

[Little Mama]

I think it's a shame that Solas wasn't there during the Wicked Grace scene. I wonder..did they invite him to play and he declined or did they not even bother?  He looks like he's having so much fun in this picture.

 

http://mariagrantz.d...ullen-509009844

 

He was busy painting?

 

That's almost as possible as meeting the maker

 

 

And who says that's impossible/so unlikely? We've already been allowed to do that once in ME3

[Colonelkillabee]

That's clearly what you're supposed to think, but it's not an entirely satisfying fit (what are the "flowers" in this scenario?) and should be discarded as obvious bait.

 

I believe the Titans are the intended reference to the "pillars of the world".  The workers are the dwarven race, their "mindlessness" a reference to their early hive mind connection to the Stone.  Spreading red lyrium in both the physical world and the fade (the overlapping circles) is the objective.  No immune system, disease spreads like wildfire.  Stone succumbs.  Sun wins.  Everyone else loses.  No?

Personally I like to keep things simple until I have good enough reason to think otherwise. Solas' reaction combined with that's a good enough fit for me. The flowers blossoming to me is new life being born. The combination of magic with all living things creating what wasn't there after the fade was split from thedas.

 

In other words, immortality returns.

 

It's just a theory, you're all fine to dismiss or accept

[madrar]

Is he wrong? I always understood it that way. That the archdemon is just a corrupted dragon's body (I know, that is Dragon's Dogma terminology, but it fits) that harbors an old god soul. No?

 

No, that's completely correct- but it sounded like he thought one of the OGSes was hanging out bodiless.   Without its dragon vehicle.  It's not exactly impossible- as Mythal demonstrates several times over the course of history- but at the very least, it would be an extremely poor fit for what the Wardens encounter in the Deep Roads.  Souls trapped on the physical side of the world, even Pantheon OGS ones, have relatively very weak will, very weak Song.  Given what we think we know about Song and the DA universe, it doesn't seem possible a 'free' unblighted OGS could be that loud.  

[madrar]

It's just a theory, you're all fine to dismiss or accept

 

Yeah, think we're going to have to shake hands and walk away at this point.  ^w^   No worries.

[Siha]

No, that's completely correct- but it sounded like he thought one of the OGSes was hanging out bodiless.   Without its dragon vehicle.  It's not exactly impossible- as Mythal demonstrates several times over the course of history- but at the very least, it would be an extremely poor fit for what the Wardens encounter in the Deep Roads.  Souls trapped on the physical side of the world, even Pantheon OGS ones, have relatively very weak will, very weak Song.  Given what we think we know about Song and the DA universe, it doesn't seem possible a 'free' unblighted OGS could be that loud.  

To be honest, I've never thought about this. I had just taken it as given that "the song" is emitted by the old god souls.

[Pinax]

Personally I think the old gods without the taint are weak enough to be killed, like Solas and mythal are supposedly now, minus Mythal trickery like she did with the amulet. I think Corypheus shows that they gain power when tainted. He got his directly from the black city though, which made a human into a god, while the old gods are already. So just being tainted is enough.

 

I think Grey Wardens being able to kill the Archdemon has something to do with a tainted soul jumping into a non-darkspawn body. Maybe again this something to do with the blood, like tainted soul not able to suffer the non tainted warden's blood, effect for 2 parties: death.

 

Only choice to preserve the soul, but cure the taint => Morrigan and her ritual.

[jellobell]

Leaving a previously withheld personal report of my Solas experience behind:

Spoiler

 

Last year my best friend died.

 

We were both kind of introverted, and video games have always been a hobby - so that is how we have spent the past 10 years or so together. Playing various mmos. I played healer, he played tank, every game. Stepping into each new fantasy world, hand in hand, the thrill of exploring them... eventually, we ruled each world together. We loved giving ourselves seemingly impossible tasks, and that high when we finally achieved them. We formed guilds together, grew them to be huge in size and success. The kind of trust we built for each other over the years... keeping each other alive in the most extreme circumstances... we knew none of it was "real", and ultimately we would have nothing physical to show for our efforts.... but I trusted him with my life, in game and out. 

 

In reality, we played together every evening; from the moment we got home from work to the moment we went to sleep. It was the waking world that wasn't "real" to us. The adventures we had... those were the experiences which shaped us. And when real life stuff was going down, I always knew that everything would be fine because I always had him waiting in game. And vice versa.

 

We were preparing to play that "ArchAge" game which was about to come out last year. He was able to play a week or so early. I had an invite to the beta too, but I told him I needed to finish a University assignment before I joined him, so I would be a few days late. 

 

Worst. Regret. Ever. A few days later, when I was about to join him, I got a message from his brother telling me that he had died on the way the work. A sudden death, related to his diabetes. 

 

It's not just the mourning that I have found difficult. I still literally have no idea what to do with myself. All of my spare time for the last 10 years has been with him. For him. I have no other purpose. 

I liked the Dragon Age series, I knew that much. So I focused on looking forward to the DA:I release. I hoped.... I needed.... to have a similar experience those I had in DA2 with Varric, and Mass Effect with Garrus. A replicated version of that bros-saving-the-world-together scenario. I... didn't process my best friend's death. I didn't know how. I hadn't even cried. All I could do was look forward to DA:I. 

 

In my first PT, I played the game blind - except for the happy knowledge that Varric was returning. But... soon after starting DA:I, it was clear that Varric was not the same person I remembered from DA2. Writing style? Or deliberately miserable being away from Kirkwall? I wasn't sure. 

 

But this bald elf had swooped in and stolen all of my attention! Where had he come from? How dare he be so interesting! And funny! And, as it seemed then, "safe". Playing a human I couldn't romance him, but, as with Varric, that didn't bother me so much. I never enter a game believing I am going to romance anyone. But... there was a vulnerability to my Inquisitor I couldn't shake. As a mage she had lived, from what I already knew of the lore, isolated in a circle tower her whole life. Everyone she knew at the conclave was killed... she wakes up a prisoner, gaps in her memory - unable to trust her own mind as well as her magic. She needed to trust someone, but no idea who it was safe to trust at the Inquisition. And... no doubt all of this was mixed in with my own, real life emotional vulnerability at this time too. 

 

So... there was Solas being a comforting, knowledgeable bro, slowly "doing a Garrus" on me. And, after the destruction of Haven, I was suddenly suprised by one line with Cullen. Something like, "I am never going to let that happen to you again". Swooon. He wants to protect me, I thought. It was exactly what my Quiz (and myself) needed. So that was the moment I decided my Quiz would be with Cullen in the first PT. 

 

Fast forward to the end of the game, and that stinger reveal. I sucked in and held my breath for the longest time. I guess reading between the lines of Solas deflecting all the time, him turning out to be hiding something wasn't the biggest suprise. What would eventually send me reeling was the realisation that this was the end of the game and oh what a dastardly way to get me to buy DLC. 

 

But... my reaction at the time was perhaps not a sensible one. I started... choke-crying? You know the blubbering that comes with panic and lack of control. It was not anger exactly, but it was directed at Cullen. I was so distraught that he had promised to protect my Quiz (me), and the whole time there was a frickin' old god beside me the whole time with questionable motives at best. You had one job Cullen. You failed so, so gloriously. 

 

As for Solas, that need from him is still there, as an ache. He ticked all the boxes... and then LEFT. Thanks for mimicking real life for me, dude. That is always what I look for in a video game. 

 

One thing I have to thank the game for (if you can see it as a positive?) is that panic attack. Because... it released the flood gates. After my friend had died, I had become numb. Isolated myself, became awfully unhealthy, did the bare minimum each day. For.. over 6 months. And then Solas-angst. Which uh, I guess was feeling something. And then I found my way onto this forum, and started talking to all these wonderful people with the same appreciation for Solas; who were all raw and angsty and in need of blanketfort too. 

 

So I guess what I am meaning to say is, thank all of you for the distraction, and the healing. And... also, I apologise if at any point I have projected my grief onto Solas. 

 

Peace Out

 

 

And if we're still doing Solavellan dances, the chemistry and passion in this one is absolutely perfect. That kiss~

 

[Colonelkillabee]

To be honest, I've never thought about this. I had just taken it as given that "the song" is emitted by the old god souls.

That's what I figured. While they're asleep, their minds are the only things active. The wardens said the song was that loud. No longer just in their head on their search as they approached the old god.

 

I'll have to find the text.

[madrar]

I think Grey Wardens being able to kill the Archdemon has something to do with a tainted soul jumping into a non-darkspawn body. Maybe again this something to do with the blood, like tainted soul not able to suffer the non tainted warden's blood, effect for 2 parties: death.

 

Only choice to preserve the soul, but cure the taint => Morrigan and her ritual.

 

I think we're well past the point of believing that OGSes get obliterated by Warden death, though. ...assuming you're on board with Andruil = Sera and June = Sandal?  

 

The Dark Ritual was a way to avoid the song/memory-cleansing effect of a soul passing through the veil, preserving Ghil's "self" as well as her core OGS.  That's the key difference between the two.  (Further underscored via its connection to Mythal's unbroken sense of self as she passes from daughter to daughter- she doesn't get redirected via the Fade.  No loss of Song, no loss of self.)  Make sense?

[LliiraAnna]

That's what I figured. While they're asleep, their minds are the only things active. The wardens said the song was that loud. No longer just in their head on their search as they approached the old god.

 

I'll have to find the text.

 

 

This one?

[Ser_Lurk]

I have been wondering about Loranil's comment. Since the Dalish, and I quote, "Dalish clans rarely encounter each other in order to protect themselves; their diaspora is as much of a blessing as is a curse. Since Dalish don't—if ever—keep in contact between other clans...", does his comment mean that the Dalish have recently hold a Arlathvhen after the Breach opened? 

 

There are Dalish agents and emissaries at Skyhold, such as Cillian and Neria. They likely send news back to their clans.

 

It's not unprecedented for clans to be in contact with each other during a crisis. During the Fifth Blight, Zathrian's clan sent runners to contact the other clans in Ferelden. They banded together to help fight the Archdemon. The Breach is an extraordinary circumstance. It would make sense that the Dalish are contacting each other for information, and discussing what (if anything) they should be doing about the Breach and the Inquisition.

[madrar]

<snip>

 

This one?

 

That's probably the reference killabee is looking for.  I hate to underscore the Wardens' ignorance here, but they have no idea what they're dealing with and are trying to fit what they're encountering into a context that makes sense given how they think the world works.  Unfortunately for them and their whole plan to save the world by killing off Archdemons, they're very much mistaken.  

 

*rubs her temples* 

 

ugh, this requires multi-page theory to get into, and I'm still in bed with flu.   I promised we'd shake and go our separate ways.   Sticking to it.    

[drake2511]

Popping in because I literally just saw this and thought it may be helpful to the Blight-dissection discussion (sorry if old!);


source: http://irabelas.tumblr.com/

Also I'll be away for a few days! Have fun, maintain the blanketfort and be excellent to eachother Solasmancers!

Leaving a previously withheld personal report of my Solas experience behind:

Spoiler

Last year my best friend died.

We were both kind of introverted, and video games have always been a hobby - so that is how we have spent the past 10 years or so together. Playing various mmos. I played healer, he played tank, every game. Stepping into each new fantasy world, hand in hand, the thrill of exploring them... eventually, we ruled each world together. We loved giving ourselves seemingly impossible tasks, and that high when we finally achieved them. We formed guilds together, grew them to be huge in size and success. The kind of trust we built for each other over the years... keeping each other alive in the most extreme circumstances... we knew none of it was "real", and ultimately we would have nothing physical to show for our efforts.... but I trusted him with my life, in game and out.

In reality, we played together every evening; from the moment we got home from work to the moment we went to sleep. It was the waking world that wasn't "real" to us. The adventures we had... those were the experiences which shaped us. And when real life stuff was going down, I always knew that everything would be fine because I always had him waiting in game. And vice versa.

We were preparing to play that "ArchAge" game which was about to come out last year. He was able to play a week or so early. I had an invite to the beta too, but I told him I needed to finish a University assignment before I joined him, so I would be a few days late.

Worst. Regret. Ever. A few days later, when I was about to join him, I got a message from his brother telling me that he had died on the way the work. A sudden death, related to his diabetes.

It's not just the mourning that I have found difficult. I still literally have no idea what to do with myself. All of my spare time for the last 10 years has been with him. For him. I have no other purpose.

I liked the Dragon Age series, I knew that much. So I focused on looking forward to the DA:I release. I hoped.... I needed.... to have a similar experience those I had in DA2 with Varric, and Mass Effect with Garrus. A replicated version of that bros-saving-the-world-together scenario. I... didn't process my best friend's death. I didn't know how. I hadn't even cried. All I could do was look forward to DA:I.

In my first PT, I played the game blind - except for the happy knowledge that Varric was returning. But... soon after starting DA:I, it was clear that Varric was not the same person I remembered from DA2. Writing style? Or deliberately miserable being away from Kirkwall? I wasn't sure.

But this bald elf had swooped in and stolen all of my attention! Where had he come from? How dare he be so interesting! And funny! And, as it seemed then, "safe". Playing a human I couldn't romance him, but, as with Varric, that didn't bother me so much. I never enter a game believing I am going to romance anyone. But... there was a vulnerability to my Inquisitor I couldn't shake. As a mage she had lived, from what I already knew of the lore, isolated in a circle tower her whole life. Everyone she knew at the conclave was killed... she wakes up a prisoner, gaps in her memory - unable to trust her own mind as well as her magic. She needed to trust someone, but no idea who it was safe to trust at the Inquisition. And... no doubt all of this was mixed in with my own, real life emotional vulnerability at this time too.

So... there was Solas being a comforting, knowledgeable bro, slowly "doing a Garrus" on me. And, after the destruction of Haven, I was suddenly suprised by one line with Cullen. Something like, "I am never going to let that happen to you again". Swooon. He wants to protect me, I thought. It was exactly what my Quiz (and myself) needed. So that was the moment I decided my Quiz would be with Cullen in the first PT.

Fast forward to the end of the game, and that stinger reveal. I sucked in and held my breath for the longest time. I guess reading between the lines of Solas deflecting all the time, him turning out to be hiding something wasn't the biggest suprise. What would eventually send me reeling was the realisation that this was the end of the game and oh what a dastardly way to get me to buy DLC.

But... my reaction at the time was perhaps not a sensible one. I started... choke-crying? You know the blubbering that comes with panic and lack of control. It was not anger exactly, but it was directed at Cullen. I was so distraught that he had promised to protect my Quiz (me), and the whole time there was a frickin' old god beside me the whole time with questionable motives at best. You had one job Cullen. You failed so, so gloriously.

As for Solas, that need from him is still there, as an ache. He ticked all the boxes... and then LEFT. Thanks for mimicking real life for me, dude. That is always what I look for in a video game.

One thing I have to thank the game for (if you can see it as a positive?) is that panic attack. Because... it released the flood gates. After my friend had died, I had become numb. Isolated myself, became awfully unhealthy, did the bare minimum each day. For.. over 6 months. And then Solas-angst. Which uh, I guess was feeling something. And then I found my way onto this forum, and started talking to all these wonderful people with the same appreciation for Solas; who were all raw and angsty and in need of blanketfort too.

So I guess what I am meaning to say is, thank all of you for the distraction, and the healing. And... also, I apologise if at any point I have projected my grief onto Solas.

Peace Out

I'm so glad you found some comfort here. *hugs*

[slmisfit]

Where would one find such a backup? Because I'll probably not read all of it till next Friday.

http://www.reddit.co..._download_here/

[Pinax]

I think we're well past the point of believing that OGSes get obliterated by Warden death, though. ...assuming you're on board with Andruil = Sera and June = Sandal?  

 

The Dark Ritual was a way to avoid the song/memory-cleansing effect of a soul passing through the veil, preserving Ghil's "self" as well as her core OGS.  That's the key difference between the two.  (Further underscored via its connection to Mythal's unbroken sense of self as she passes from daughter to daughter- she doesn't get redirected via the Fade.  No loss of Song, no loss of self.)  Make sense?

 

To be honest, I do believe the gaming world allows to have things "lost forever", OGS as one of them.

 

Makes sense though, even if not too in line with my headcanon.