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[SamanthaJ]

This just makes him that much more appealing to me personally, we'd get on so well irl lol.

I know what you mean. I do enjoy the rebel with a cause type. More than the rebel without a cause type. I've always thought they had some appeal too, though.

 

[sberna78]

Greetings! I'm actually mostly a lurker here...been around for quite some time tho'. I'm feeling compelled to join in on this thread because well...Solas

 

First off, I have to say that the Lavellan/Solas romance arc is one of the BEST and most compelling, most emotionally engaging that I've ever experienced in a game. Despite the somewhat limited amount of content, it was just...wow.

 

That being said, I admit that I likely won't be able to undergo it again, at least not for a long, long while. I will keep my Lavellan archer saved and will use her for any future DLCs/expansions that may occur. I would absolutely LOVE some sort of closure for things and a Solas themed DLC (similar to Witch Hunt) would be incomparably awesome, but I just don't think I can bring myself to romance him again...not for some time anyways.

 

This is not because I dislike anything about the character or his story (including the big "revelation" regarding him), I thought it was all wonderful and incredibly well done..Solas is just a phenomenal character and one that I am sure will be remembered for a very long time. My reasoning for avoiding his romance in most future elven playthroughs is due to some real life issues and how everything sorta meshed together and hit me like a two ton truck when experiencing the romance aspects with him in the game.

 

I won't bore y'all with the details, but suffice to say that in real life, recently (well, over the course of maybe 3-4 months in total) I've hit a bit of a rough patch...especially when it comes to my love life. There's been quite a lot of hurt and a fair amount of heartache and hours of brooding/stewing in my own thoughts (some of that aided by copious amounts of wine) and I'll be honest, I'd been looking forward to the release of Inquisition as a bright spot in all the relative chaos that I'd been experiencing as of late.

 

When it came, and I played..I was completely enthralled and I fell in love with the game and those who were in it...I'd avoided spoilers as much as I could beforehand so pretty much all of the events and plot points were new to me...I was blown away, totally and completely. Solas was just amazing (kudos to all of those behind his creation) and I really enjoyed how things went over the course of the game. BUT, when I experienced the outcome of 'things' with Solas, I wasn't prepared for the onslaught of tremendous, powerful FEELS that it elicited from me. I can look back on it now and I realize that a lot of the feels I experienced were in relation to things I'd experienced within my own life and well, I was a scary looking, blubbering mess after the Culmination sequence..I was both angry and deeply saddened.

 

I wasn't angry at the devs or the writers, or even Solas as a character...I was angry that my Lavellan had to experience that kind of heartbreak, all while she's out there busting her ass, genuinely trying to make the world a better place. The very fact such things/experiences/scenes can trigger so many feels and inspire so much discussion is IMO, an obvious indication of the genius behind the game's creative team. I love them, if I could build a shrine to them in my living room, I probably would.

 

I digress, and I'm sorry for this huge wall of text...but well, I'm basically trying to say that I love this game, I love Solas as a character and as a romance option, he's just damn brilliant in so many ways. But I just can't handle all those feels again, at least not for a while. In the future, I have no doubt that once things settle down and I'm feeling better, I can go back to him and do it all over again...because he's one of the sexiest Bioware characters EVER (well, I think so anyways)...yet in the subsequent playthroughs I've attempted, I find myself mostly avoiding him.

 

Also, I'm not writing this to elicit sympathy or anything, really I'm not...life is a giant pile of sh*t sometimes and we've all experienced that at various points. My pain is no greater or more deserving of respect/time/attention than that of any other. I'm just rambling here because I feel that of all places, you guys can probably understand how strongly one can find themselves affected by the events and characters in a Bioware game.

 

Thanks for reading my little mini novel here

[vertigomez]

Slightly offtopic, but I just realized, what was missing in solavellan playlist. It's Within Temptation, like every third song

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Winter has come for me, can't carry on.
The Chains to my life are strong but soon they'll be gone.
I'll spread my wings one more time.
Is it a dream?
All the ones I have loved calling out my name.
The sun warms my face.
All the days of my life, I see them passing me by.
In my heart I know I can let go.
In the end I will find some peace inside.
New wings are growing tonight.
Is it a dream?
All the ones I have loved calling out my name.
The sun warms my face.
All the days of my life, I see them passing me by.
As I am soaring I'm one with the wind.
I am longing to see you again, it's been so long.
We will be together again.
Is it a dream?
All the ones I have loved calling out my name.
The sun warms my face.
All the days of my life, I see them passing me by.

OMG YES. Also "See Who I Am" on a Meta Elf Revolution level... lol.

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Is it true what they say?
Are we too blind to find a way?
Fear of the unknown
Clouds our hearts today.

Come into my world,
See through my eyes.
Try to understand,
Don't want to lose what we have.

We've been dreaming
But who can deny?
It's the best way of living
Between the truth and the lies.

[Chorus:]
See who I am,
Break through the surface.
Reach for my hand,
Let's show them that we can
Free our minds and find a way.
The world is in our hands,
This is not the end.

Fear is withering the soul
At the point of no return.
We must be the change we wish to see.

I'll come into your world,
See through your eyes.
I'll try to understand,
Before we lose what we have.

We just can't stop believing
Because we have to try.
We can rise above their truth and their lies.

[Chorus x2]
See who I am,
Break through the surface.
Reach for my hand,
Let's show them that we can
Free our minds and find a way.
The world is in our hands.

This is not the end.

I hear their silence
Preaching my blame.
Will our strength remain
If their power reigns?

[Chorus x2]
See who I am,
Break through the surface.
Reach for my hand,
And show them that we can
Free our minds and find a way.
The world is in our hands.

This is not the end.

[Miss This or That]

 @sberna78: I really hope your life will be better soon and you can look back at that time and see that you have grown into a stronger person. And don't you worry about not romancing him for a long while: Some others feel the same! We are just a bunch of Solas-fans in here, so do make yourself comfortable. Sadly, I cannot offer you tea, because I know that Solas does not like it.

[Kulyok]

I think we can drink tea and Solas would look at us and raise an eyebrow. He's adorable when he does that.

 

 

Just watched an Iron Bull romance scene on youtube, and they discussed, um, possible stop-words for party members, and turns out there was no option to discuss one for Solas. I guess Solas is so cool he doesn't need one! Hmm. Come to think of it, it might be time to start Chuck Norris-like list of anecdotes for him. Like "Solas does not sleep. He waits."

[Tielis]

Greetings! I'm actually mostly a lurker here...been around for quite some time tho'. I'm feeling compelled to join in on this thread because well...Solas

 

First off, I have to say that the Lavellan/Solas romance arc is one of the BEST and most compelling, most emotionally engaging that I've ever experienced in a game. Despite the somewhat limited amount of content, it was just...wow.

 

That being said, I admit that I likely won't be able to undergo it again, at least not for a long, long while. I will keep my Lavellan archer saved and will use her for any future DLCs/expansions that may occur. I would absolutely LOVE some sort of closure for things and a Solas themed DLC (similar to Witch Hunt) would be incomparably awesome, but I just don't think I can bring myself to romance him again...not for some time anyways.

 

This is not because I dislike anything about the character or his story (including the big "revelation" regarding him), I thought it was all wonderful and incredibly well done..Solas is just a phenomenal character and one that I am sure will be remembered for a very long time. My reasoning for avoiding his romance in most future elven playthroughs is due to some real life issues and how everything sorta meshed together and hit me like a two ton truck when experiencing the romance aspects with him in the game.

 

I won't bore y'all with the details, but suffice to say that in real life, recently (well, over the course of maybe 3-4 months in total) I've hit a bit of a rough patch...especially when it comes to my love life. There's been quite a lot of hurt and a fair amount of heartache and hours of brooding/stewing in my own thoughts (some of that aided by copious amounts of wine) and I'll be honest, I'd been looking forward to the release of Inquisition as a bright spot in all the relative chaos that I'd been experiencing as of late.

 

When it came, and I played..I was completely enthralled and I fell in love with the game and those who were in it...I'd avoided spoilers as much as I could beforehand so pretty much all of the events and plot points were new to me...I was blown away, totally and completely. Solas was just amazing (kudos to all of those behind his creation) and I really enjoyed how things went over the course of the game. BUT, when I experienced the outcome of 'things' with Solas, I wasn't prepared for the onslaught of tremendous, powerful FEELS that it elicited from me. I can look back on it now and I realize that a lot of the feels I experienced were in relation to things I'd experienced within my own life and well, I was a scary looking, blubbering mess after the Culmination sequence..I was both angry and deeply saddened.

 

I wasn't angry at the devs or the writers, or even Solas as a character...I was angry that my Lavellan had to experience that kind of heartbreak, all while she's out there busting her ass, genuinely trying to make the world a better place. The very fact such things/experiences/scenes can trigger so many feels and inspire so much discussion is IMO, an obvious indication of the genius behind the game's creative team. I love them, if I could build a shrine to them in my living room, I probably would.

 

I digress, and I'm sorry for this huge wall of text...but well, I'm basically trying to say that I love this game, I love Solas as a character and as a romance option, he's just damn brilliant in so many ways. But I just can't handle all those feels again, at least not for a while. In the future, I have no doubt that once things settle down and I'm feeling better, I can go back to him and do it all over again...because he's one of the sexiest Bioware characters EVER (well, I think so anyways)...yet in the subsequent playthroughs I've attempted, I find myself mostly avoiding him.

 

Also, I'm not writing this to elicit sympathy or anything, really I'm not...life is a giant pile of sh*t sometimes and we've all experienced that at various points. My pain is no greater or more deserving of respect/time/attention than that of any other. I'm just rambling here because I feel that of all places, you guys can probably understand how strongly one can find themselves affected by the events and characters in a Bioware game.

 

Thanks for reading my little mini novel here

 

Yes.  It especially hits you like a two-ton truck if you've ever experienced that kind of romance in real life.

 

The Solas romance should have a trigger warning!

[Ajna]

Greetings! I'm actually mostly a lurker here...been around for quite some time tho'. I'm feeling compelled to join in on this thread because well...Solas

First off, I have to say that the Lavellan/Solas romance arc is one of the BEST and most compelling, most emotionally engaging that I've ever experienced in a game. Despite the somewhat limited amount of content, it was just...wow.

That being said, I admit that I likely won't be able to undergo it again, at least not for a long, long while. I will keep my Lavellan archer saved and will use her for any future DLCs/expansions that may occur. I would absolutely LOVE some sort of closure for things and a Solas themed DLC (similar to Witch Hunt) would be incomparably awesome, but I just don't think I can bring myself to romance him again...not for some time anyways.

This is not because I dislike anything about the character or his story (including the big "revelation" regarding him), I thought it was all wonderful and incredibly well done..Solas is just a phenomenal character and one that I am sure will be remembered for a very long time. My reasoning for avoiding his romance in most future elven playthroughs is due to some real life issues and how everything sorta meshed together and hit me like a two ton truck when experiencing the romance aspects with him in the game.

I won't bore y'all with the details, but suffice to say that in real life, recently (well, over the course of maybe 3-4 months in total) I've hit a bit of a rough patch...especially when it comes to my love life. There's been quite a lot of hurt and a fair amount of heartache and hours of brooding/stewing in my own thoughts (some of that aided by copious amounts of wine) and I'll be honest, I'd been looking forward to the release of Inquisition as a bright spot in all the relative chaos that I'd been experiencing as of late.

When it came, and I played..I was completely enthralled and I fell in love with the game and those who were in it...I'd avoided spoilers as much as I could beforehand so pretty much all of the events and plot points were new to me...I was blown away, totally and completely. Solas was just amazing (kudos to all of those behind his creation) and I really enjoyed how things went over the course of the game. BUT, when I experienced the outcome of 'things' with Solas, I wasn't prepared for the onslaught of tremendous, powerful FEELS that it elicited from me. I can look back on it now and I realize that a lot of the feels I experienced were in relation to things I'd experienced within my own life and well, I was a scary looking, blubbering mess after the Culmination sequence..I was both angry and deeply saddened.

I wasn't angry at the devs or the writers, or even Solas as a character...I was angry that my Lavellan had to experience that kind of heartbreak, all while she's out there busting her ass, genuinely trying to make the world a better place. The very fact such things/experiences/scenes can trigger so many feels and inspire so much discussion is IMO, an obvious indication of the genius behind the game's creative team. I love them, if I could build a shrine to them in my living room, I probably would.

I digress, and I'm sorry for this huge wall of text...but well, I'm basically trying to say that I love this game, I love Solas as a character and as a romance option, he's just damn brilliant in so many ways. But I just can't handle all those feels again, at least not for a while. In the future, I have no doubt that once things settle down and I'm feeling better, I can go back to him and do it all over again...because he's one of the sexiest Bioware characters EVER (well, I think so anyways)...yet in the subsequent playthroughs I've attempted, I find myself mostly avoiding him.

Also, I'm not writing this to elicit sympathy or anything, really I'm not...life is a giant pile of sh*t sometimes and we've all experienced that at various points. My pain is no greater or more deserving of respect/time/attention than that of any other. I'm just rambling here because I feel that of all places, you guys can probably understand how strongly one can find themselves affected by the events and characters in a Bioware game.

Thanks for reading my little mini novel here

Spoiler

I understand completely hun. I connected very deeply with my Lavellan and as a result ended up feeling like I'd been dumped myself..something I'm no stranger to in reality, I'm 41 years old, I've even experienced the tragic, this helped me understand Solas in a way that I'm grateful for I think. I totally get how it would feel if some of those experiences were still fresh, it did drag up old feelings for me, but only for a few days so *bighugs* for you.

[caridounette]

So... 

 

Solas opposes the Grey Wardens because he feels that hunting sleeping gods is a barbaric way to prevent Blights ?

 

And he dislikes the Dalish because they are wrong about the history they pass down, not recognizing its the product of thousands of years of efforts to salvage scrapes?

 

 

That gets me thinking, in what missions did you guys choose outcomes Solas opposes and why?

 

Personaly I saved the Wardens because I want them to restart things on a better ground. Just like I took in the Templars. Solas approved of absorbing the templars but not doing the same with the wardens. so he probably has a more personal reason not to like them (like wanting to kill his kin)

[Tielis]

So... 

 

Solas opposes the Grey Wardens because he feels that hunting sleeping gods is a barbaric way to prevent Blights ?

 

And he dislikes the Dalish because they are wrong about the history they pass down, not recognizing its the product of thousands of years of efforts to salvage scrapes?

 

 

That gets me thinking, in what missions did you guys choose outcomes Solas opposes and why?

 

Personaly I saved the Wardens because I want them to restart things on a better ground. Just like I took in the Templars. Solas approved of absorbing the templars but not doing the same with the wardens. so he probably has a more personal reason not to like them (like wanting to kill his kin)

 

I think it's because he knows something about the darkspawn taint and the Blights that we don't.

[Miss This or That]

Guys, remember that first conversation with Mother Giselle? You can ask her if she is not against magic...and this is her answer. It's obviously not directly linked to Solas...but man! More under the spoiler tag.

 

Spoiler

It's just so interesting that she words it that way...and that Solas' name actually means 'Pride'. It fits so well with his whole persona, too. I truly do believe that his pride, which is certainly older than centuries, could be his downfall. He definitely holds onto his pride and can't seem to let go of the past. It's truly sad and could lead to trouble in the near/far future. (Hey look, a Titanic reference!) All the feelsuh.

 

[Addai]

It seems he does know something about Blights he's not telling. In a banter with Blackwall he asks about the GW belief that when the old gods are all dead, there will be no more Blights. Blackwall asks where he's going with it and he's evasive, saying "Nowhere. I hope they're right." < -- He totally doesn't think they're right.

 

It does seem he's just very agitated at the idea of them hunting down old gods and killing them willy nilly.

 

I took an approval hit there, and because I didn't let him kill the mages in All New Faded For Her. Solas' avenging angel side needs tempered sometimes.

[SamanthaJ]

Guys, remember that first conversation with Mother Giselle? You can ask her if she is not against magic...and this is her answer. It's obviously not directly linked to Solas...but man! More under the spoiler tag.

 

Spoiler

It's just so interesting that she words it that way...and that Solas' name actually means 'Pride'. It fits so well with his whole persona, too. I truly do believe that his pride, which is certainly older than centuries, could be his downfall. He definitely holds onto his pride and can't seem to let go of the past. It's truly sad and could lead to trouble in the near/far future. (Hey look, a Titanic reference!) All the feelsuh.

 

I think being prideful is kind of his fatal flaw or something. Though, I do think he recognizes it. I think that's why he chose the name Solas...if he chose it. He's always going on about wisdom becoming pride when corrupted, too, and Vivienne said something about him being a pride demon. He does mention that he was a lot more brash when he was younger to Blackwall, though, and has that dialogue with Cole about a younger elf who thought he knew everything. Maybe his pride is something he can overcome.

 

[zambixi]

It seems he does know something about Blights he's not telling. In a banter with Blackwall he asks about the GW belief that when the old gods are all dead, there will be no more Blights. Blackwall asks where he's going with it and he's evasive, saying "Nowhere. I hope they're right." < -- He totally doesn't think they're right.
 
It does seem he's just very agitated at the idea of them hunting down old gods and killing them willy nilly.
 
I took an approval hit there, and because I didn't let him kill the mages in All New Faded For Her. Solas' avenging angel side needs tempered sometimes.

He gets a minor approval hit if you ask how to kill the "archdemon" at Haven too, which I found strange since it has no problem trying to kill the Inquisitor.

I tried absorbing the Wardens because

Spoiler

I thought it would keep Hawke from disappearing at Weisshaupt. It did not (Bioware why you keep disappearing my characters). And I didn't let him kill the mages. I think I'll switch both decisions in my completionist play through

[Miss This or That]

I think being prideful is kind of his fatal flaw or something. Though, I do think he recognizes it. I think that's why he chose the name Solas...if he chose it. He's always going on about wisdom becoming pride when corrupted, too, and Vivienne said something about him being a pride demon. He does mention that he was a lot more brash when he was younger to Blackwall, though, and has that dialogue with Cole about a younger elf who thought he knew everything. Maybe his pride is something he can overcome.

 

I truly believe that he can overcome his pride perhaps with the power of love. I still thought this screenshot was worth showing because it is worded so nicely and really fits Solas' character. I also think that he has a ton of pride up his little butt, but at least he is aware of it. And that's worth something. =) (Thank you for the Titanic gif, btw! )

[caridounette]

It seems he does know something about Blights he's not telling. In a banter with Blackwall he asks about the GW belief that when the old gods are all dead, there will be no more Blights. Blackwall asks where he's going with it and he's evasive, saying "Nowhere. I hope they're right." < -- He totally doesn't think they're right.

 

It does seem he's just very agitated at the idea of them hunting down old gods and killing them willy nilly.

 

I took an approval hit there, and because I didn't let him kill the mages in All New Faded For Her. Solas' avenging angel side needs tempered sometimes.

 

I made the same choices

 

I cant let Solas kill the mages because... I dunno. Its not like I dont let Garrus kill Sidonis. But that was a personal betrayal, Sidonis knew better.

 

The mages were just ignorant. And Solas is just so self-rightous sometimes.

 

Like his hatred of Dalish because they dont want to learn from him. The Dalish are certainly wrong, but how would they know about  it? They still are the only ones trying to understand old Elvhen history. I dont see any other group doing a better job (even if theirs is pretty flawed).

 

Maybe it turns out to be a hardening/softening quest? Like letting Leliana kill her spy in Haven. Or the DAO choices for alistair and Leliana.

[MWImexico]

.....

 

Personaly I saved the Wardens because I want them to restart things on a better ground. Just like I took in the Templars. Solas approved of absorbing the templars but not doing the same with the wardens. so he probably has a more personal reason not to like them (like wanting to kill his kin)

 

Spoiler

Maybe he knew that the wardens were creating an army of demons? He didn't seems to like that spirits could be enslaved/corrupted as if they were non-sentient "things".

[Addai]

Someone mentioned Myers Briggs at one point. Solas is a "T." To him it's the principle of the thing, and he's not good at seeing mitigating circumstances or letting those sway him. INFP and INTP can both seem like phlegmatic, easy-going people until a value of theirs is violated and then they react in a way that seems extreme, because no one around them suspected they had that deep a well of feeling.
 
I'm pretty sure Solas is an INTP.

Maybe he knew that the wardens were creating an army of demons? He didn't seems to like that spirits could be enslaved/corrupted as if they were non-sentient "things".

Yeah, that's probably part of it, too.

[Nika]

Haha, made this back when we were still hoping for Solas to be a romance option

Never thought it would be so accurate

I gotta put my Lavellans face on there now lol

[RynJ]

I didn't let him kill the mages because it was completely pointless vengeance which is against my character's personality to allow lying down. I was tempted to let him, though! And I chose not to exile the Grey Wardens because hey, I still have a soft spot in my heart for them. BioWare will never be able to make me hate the Grey Warden order because of my love of DAO. He was mad about it but he got the heck over it. It was tempting to just do whatever Solas approved of but I decided that I wasn't going to let him bully me against doing what I want to do. He ended up still liking Cari just fine, if those kisses were any indication. 

[zambixi]

I made the same choices
 
I cant let Solas kill the mages because... I dunno. Its not like I dont let Garrus kill Sidonis. But that was a personal betrayal, Sidonis knew better.
 
The mages were just ignorant. And Solas is just so self-rightous sometimes.
 
Like his hatred of Dalish because they dont want to learn from him. The Dalish are certainly wrong, but how would they know about  it? They still are the only ones trying to understand old Elvhen history. I dont see any other group doing a better job (even if theirs is pretty flawed).
 
Maybe it turns out to be a hardening/softening quest? Like letting Leliana kill her spy in Haven. Or the DAO choices for alistair and Leliana.

I can't wait until the Inquisition section of the Keep opens up and we get to see what decisions "matter". If the Mage killing thing is in there then we' have confirmation that it's an important choice!

I get the feeling that part of his dislike of the Dalish stems from the fact that they reject anything that doesn't agree with their current beliefs. I don't want to bash them because I think they're awesome for trying to preserve the past, but there are several examples in the game where they just sort of bury their heads in the sand (Merrill's personal quests come to mind). He says that the clans he talked to drove him off; I think that probably hurt his pride a little and caused him to think they're willfully deceiving themselves rather than being ignorant by circumstance.

[Dr. Doctor]

Speaking of Blackwall banter:

[Mims]

About the blight ending when all archdemons are dead...perhaps it is something like blizzard's scourge. Essentially, there has to be an archdemon to control them, otherwise they would simply attack and destroy at random. So killing all of them might ultimately be a bad thing for the world. 

[slmisfit]

Just listened to the Cole/Solas banters and oh, Solas. GAH, I love his character so much.

[Arahnea]

I can't wait until the Inquisition section of the Keep opens up and we get to see what decisions "matter". If the Mage killing thing is in there then we' have confirmation that it's an important choice!

I get the feeling that part of his dislike of the Dalish stems from the fact that they reject anything that doesn't agree with their current beliefs. I don't want to bash them because I think they're awesome for trying to preserve the past, but there are several examples in the game where they just sort of bury their heads in the sand (Merrill's personal quests come to mind). He says that the clans he talked to drove him off; I think that probably hurt his pride a little and caused him to think they're willfully deceiving themselves rather than being ignorant by circumstance.

I couldn't help laughing when Sera

 

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starts laughing when you tell her about the vallaslin after that scene.. It's so highly inappropriate but it is very ironic that the Dalish act so snooty towards city elfs when it comes to elfy stuff, only to get it so wrong

[Prince of Keys]

I couldn't help laughing when Sera

 

Spoiler

starts laughing when you tell her about the vallaslin after that scene.. It's so highly inappropriate but it is very ironic that the Dalish act so snooty towards city elfs when it comes to elfy stuff, only to get it so wrong

 

I think it's really sad. They try so hard to get things right, but it's been so long and so much has been lost that they have no idea what the truth is anymore. And then people go and mock them for even trying, despite the fact that not every Dalish elf is the "snooty" kind.