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[DragonRacer]

Has anyone cracked the code regarding what Patrick Weeke's random jumbled character tweets are about? I feel like it's just a sentence with the letters re-arranged, but I'm not smart enough to crack it. Someone tweeted this at him and he understood completely:

 

"Jnf Fbynf nyjnlf Sra'unery be gung jnf fbzrguvat gung ur zbecurq vagb nf gur fgbel bs QNV ribyirq?"

 

He's using rot13 to talk about spoilers on Twitter without spoiling people. That says:

 

Spoiler

"Was Solas always Fen'harel or that was something that he morphed into as the story of DAI evolved?"

 

Copy-paste into http://www.rot13.com/index.php to either decipher a sentence or to encrypt one.

[scintilla]

This thread is a roller coaster guys! I love all the discussion - it keeps me on the fence about whether or not things are going to end "well" for our heroines. Also I just passed 200 posts in the BW forum and I'm pretty sure 95% of them are in this thread.

 

 

I really wonder what he was going for here. I can never decide if it's a wolf or a dragon or...wolf-dragon? Why would he start this and not finish it ahhhh...

 

The discussion here is really great.    I thiiiink it's two dragons. The one standing looks like it was going to be yellow, like the Guardian of Mythal, it also has a wing.

 

So, this was really sweet.

 

I've already done Iron Bull's personal quest and my result ended up parting him from the Qunari entirely. I was running around Crestwood last night with Bull, Solas, and Varric in the party and got this banter:

 

Solas: You are not Tal-Vashoth, Iron Bull, not really.

Iron Bull: Well that's a fuckin' relief.

Solas: You are no beast, snapping under the stress of the Qun's harsh discipline.

Solas: You are a man who made a choice... possibly the first of your life.

Iron Bull: I've always liked fighting. What if I turn savage, like the other Tal-Vashoth?

Solas: You have the Inquisition, you have the Inquisitor... and you have me.

Iron Bull: Thanks, Solas.

 

I thought that was really sweet of Solas. First time I think I've heard him offer any sort of personal comfort/hand-of-friendship to one of the other party members like that. 

 

I love that banter. It's part of the reason I started taking Team Weekes everywhere. That and Bull calling Cole his weird, squirrelly kid.

[Eivuwan]

Does anyone have a video of Solas speaking through Cole after the credits?

[Mims]

Spoiler

It is a code in rot13. The question was: Was Solas always Fen'harel or that was something that he morphed into as the story of DAI evolved?

 

I tracked down the question, his answer was: 'spoilers!' 

 

Looks like everything for Solas is still on lockdown. 

[hex0mega]

Spoiler

It is a code in rot13. The question was: Was Solas always Fen'harel or that was something that he morphed into as the story of DAI evolved?

 

HOW DID I FORGET ABOUT ROT13? 

 

Oh my god I feel so stupid. Thanks man, I haven't used ROT13 in ages. 

[Eivuwan]

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Perhaps what Solas regrets the most is not that the elves have lost their history/glory but that they have lost their connection to the spirit world? A connection that once allowed them to be more wise, peaceful and also to live much longer than "present" elves? Maybe what he means by "the people" is the sum : elves + spirits, as if the spirits where in fact a part of them that has been taken away since the creating of the veil? No wonder he disaprove if Cole become more "human", perhaps in his mind human nature is associated with selfishness and destruction?

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About the reason why Solas breaks up with Lavellan (my elven inquisitor didn't even start his romance arc yet but I like to speculate anyway), maybe that to achieve his goal he had to gain a power that he knew will change him forever. The sort of change that will make him care less (or not anymore) of the people he use to care for. A fate he would not wish even to his ennemies.

 

I don't think

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that the power would change him forever. He is motivated by his desire to help people, so he's not going to risk becoming a cold person because why would a cold person want to help people?

[Addai]

Solas is totally pro-Cassandra, too. That was a surprise. He tries to act like a guru with everyone, it's just that some people take it better (Cassandra, Cole) than others (Sera).

 

On a related note: Was I the only one who also found it strange how he acted at the

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Ball in Orlais? People who are responsible for other ("little") people go about it as if it's a game, even call it exactly that, have (preferably elven) servants... And he's enjoying it. I found it a little shocking    It would rather fit with the trickster god image of Fen'Harel, not much of a rebellion here. But then, the second you ask about it, everything trickster-ish vanishes into thin air and the only excuse he can come up with is "Err... FADE!" ...Huh?!?

I think it's an indication that he's not the bumpkin "apostate hobo" that he appears to be. He's comfortable in circles of power. I liked that he waved off being called the "elven manservant," lol.

[herkles]

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I wonder how might elven society change following the revelations that solas gave and the temple of mythal? As I can imagine my lavellan at the very least writting to the lavellan keeper about this or going to meet the keeper about what she learned.

[Lulumi_Lumi]

I finally found that armor yesterday and of course Solas had to wear it. I never want to take it off now, it looks so good on him lol

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[MissMayhem96]

has anyone heard of a personal quest for Solas called "What Lies Dormant"?

 

I heard its bugged and can't be triggered. So has anyone heard of it?

[MissMayhem96]

I finally found that armor yesterday and of course Solas had to wear it. I never want to take it off now, it looks so good on him lol

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could you tell me where this armor is? I found the Keeper robe, but not the Ancient keeper robe.

[MWImexico]

I don't think

Spoiler

that the power would change him forever. He is motivated by his desire to help people, so he's not going to risk becoming a cold person because why would a cold person want to help people?

 

Spoiler

Maybe he knows/thinks that, cold or not, he will act in a way that will provide a collateral advantage to his "present" cause. Like destroying the veil, for exemple.

[scintilla]

 

Solas is totally pro-Cassandra, too. That was a surprise. He tries to act like a guru with everyone, it's just that some people take it better (Cassandra, Cole) than others (Sera).

 

I think it's an indication that he's not the bumpkin "apostate hobo" that he appears to be. He's comfortable in circles of power. I liked that he waved off being called the "elven manservant," lol.

 

Cassandra is really open minded. I wasn't expecting that from her but she's willing to give alternate ideas a fair chance, even if they conflict with what she believes. Cole probably needs the guidance. Vivienne is set in her ways and won't hear any alternate ideas, which makes for some interesting banter. The banters I've gotten between Solas and Viv have him sounding so weary. And he's pretty hostile to Dorian, even when Dorian is trying to smooth things over, which is interesting to me. Apparently the Tevinter slavery thing makes him completely unwilling to listen. Especially because Solas seems to think that just ending slavery is possible and that collapsing Tevinter's economy won't have more effects than just freeing slaves. He really doesn't seem to get ripple effects.

 

@Omni-tooo - What Lies Dormant is mentioned in the guide but no one has gotten it. It's bugged or the guide is wrong. I think the Ancient Keeper robe is in... one of the elven ruins you can discover in Exalted Plains or Emerald Graves. And the Keeper Robe schematic dropped off a dragon for me.

[DragonRacer]

 

I love that banter. It's part of the reason I started taking Team Weekes everywhere. That and Bull calling Cole his weird, squirrelly kid.

 

"Weird ass poison"

 

[MidgetNemo]

Solas is totally pro-Cassandra, too. That was a surprise. He tries to act like a guru with everyone, it's just that some people take it better (Cassandra, Cole) than others (Sera).

 

I think it's an indication that he's not the bumpkin "apostate hobo" that he appears to be. He's comfortable in circles of power. I liked that he waved off being called the "elven manservant," lol.

Remember when he tells a romanced Lavellan that nobles would mark their slaves in regards to the vallaslin? He probably lived the life of a noble

[jellobell]

All of this speculation about how we might have to kill Solas is making me feel kind of sick.   I...really don't know what I'd do in that situation. Probably put the game down and never play it again.

[Addai]

Cassandra is really open minded. I wasn't expecting that from her but she's willing to give alternate ideas a fair chance, even if they conflict with what she believes. Cole probably needs the guidance. Vivienne is set in her ways and won't hear any alternate ideas, which makes for some interesting banter. The banters I've gotten between Solas and Viv have him sounding so weary. And he's pretty hostile to Dorian, even when Dorian is trying to smooth things over, which is interesting to me. Apparently the Tevinter slavery thing makes him completely unwilling to listen. Especially because Solas seems to think that just ending slavery is possible and that collapsing Tevinter's economy won't have more effects than just freeing slaves. He really doesn't seem to get ripple effects.
 
@Omni-tooo - What Lies Dormant is mentioned in the guide but no one has gotten it. It's bugged or the guide is wrong. I think the Ancient Keeper robe is in... one of the elven ruins you can discover in Exalted Plains or Emerald Graves. And the Keeper Robe schematic dropped off a dragon for me.

Really? I haven't gotten any hostile banter with Dorian and Solas yet. They had an interesting one on the orbs. Yeah okay, Solas did get a barb in there- "the humans took a lot of things from the elves."
 
Viv and Solas, definitely. Especially when Cole is there. To me he doesn't sound weary, though- in fact I think he likes a good fight now and again, especially when he's so sure he's right.

could you tell me where this armor is? I found the Keeper robe, but not the Ancient keeper robe.

It's in the Shrine of Sylaise in the Enchanted Plains. I put him in that set as soon as I get it and he wears it the rest of the game.

[zambixi]

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I wonder how might elven society change following the revelations that solas gave and the temple of mythal? As I can imagine my lavellan at the very least writting to the lavellan keeper about this or going to meet the keeper about what she learned.

 

I am (trying to) write this very encounter!

 

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I imagine that very little will change. The Dalish are reluctant to send their people to explore ancient ruins because it very often goes poorly; however, they may send a team to the Temple of Mythal. They may or may not find it. There is probably very little they will be able to understand without the help of the Well, Solas, or the guardians, and I see them mostly acting like Morrigan - trying to fit what they see into their existing narrative rather than learning from it. So if they notice all the Fen'Harel statues in the Temple, they will think either it a warding, a later addition, or something from before the betrayal. It won't occur to them that the Dread Wolf would be friends with the Mother goddess he supposedly locked away.

 

And I think they are very unlikely to believe the Quizzie - especially if she removes her Vallaslin. She's a Dalish, but she's been running around with shemlen and a flat-ear for almost a year. Then she shows up bare-faced and...I don't see it working out. She has to earn the respect of the Dalish in the Exalted Plains just to get them to trade with her or allow one of them to join the cause. Imagine trying to convince them that so much of their culture is wrong. Imagine trying to tell them that Mythal is free but that she is unwilling and unable to help them (though she had no problem getting their help in DA:2). It would seem blasphemous.

 

But my headcannon is that she tries anyway. And that maybe the resistance leads her to be a little more sympathetic to Solas (not that she needed a lot of convincing)

 

Re his plans & Quizzie's reaction to them: I wonder how far out there they'd have to be for Quizzie to be unequivocally non-supportive. I could definitely roleplay to the mindset that she thinks it's a great idea to turn things back to the way they once were. Especially if Solas manages to rationalize how it may/may not hurt non-elves.

 

 

 

 

 

Cassandra is really open minded. I wasn't expecting that from her but she's willing to give alternate ideas a fair chance, even if they conflict with what she believes. Cole probably needs the guidance. Vivienne is set in her ways and won't hear any alternate ideas, which makes for some interesting banter. The banters I've gotten between Solas and Viv have him sounding so weary. And he's pretty hostile to Dorian, even when Dorian is trying to smooth things over, which is interesting to me. Apparently the Tevinter slavery thing makes him completely unwilling to listen. Especially because Solas seems to think that just ending slavery is possible and that collapsing Tevinter's economy won't have more effects than just freeing slaves. He really doesn't seem to get ripple effects.

 

@Omni-tooo - What Lies Dormant is mentioned in the guide but no one has gotten it. It's bugged or the guide is wrong. I think the Ancient Keeper robe is in... one of the elven ruins you can discover in Exalted Plains or Emerald Graves. And the Keeper Robe schematic dropped off a dragon for me.

 

 

There's a Keeper schematic?! I need this.

[Ajna]

All of this speculation about how we might have to kill Solas is making me feel kind of sick.   I...really don't know what I'd do in that situation. Probably put the game down and never play it again.

*nods* very much this, I'm afraid.  I'm glad it's not just me feeling physically sick at the thought.

[kalasaurus]

All of this speculation about how we might have to kill Solas is making me feel kind of sick.   I...really don't know what I'd do in that situation. Probably put the game down and never play it again.

 

Yeah... me too.

 

If the situation came between killing Solas or having my Lavellan die (and/or lose the game)... call me dramatic, but I'd pick the latter  .  I just don't like the idea of killing any companion (let alone a love interest).  I couldn't kill Anders, either.

[BubbleDncr]

I am (trying to) write this very encounter!

 

Spoiler

I imagine that very little will change. The Dalish are reluctant to send their people to explore ancient ruins because it very often goes poorly; however, they may send a team to the Temple of Mythal. They may or may not find it. There is probably very little they will be able to understand without the help of the Well, Solas, or the guardians, and I see them mostly acting like Morrigan - trying to fit what they see into their existing narrative rather than learning from it. So if they notice all the Fen'Harel statues in the Temple, they will think either it a warding, a later addition, or something from before the betrayal. It won't occur to them that the Dread Wolf would be friends with the Mother goddess he supposedly locked away.

 

And I think they are very unlikely to believe the Quizzie - especially if she removes her Vallaslin. She's a Dalish, but she's been running around with shemlen and a flat-ear for almost a year. Then she shows up bare-faced and...I don't see it working out. She has to earn the respect of the Dalish in the Exalted Plains just to get them to trade with her or allow one of them to join the cause. Imagine trying to convince them that so much of their culture is wrong. Imagine trying to tell them that Mythal is free but that she is unwilling and unable to help them (though she had no problem getting their help in DA:2). It would seem blasphemous.

 

But my headcannon is that she tries anyway. And that maybe the resistance leads her to be a little more sympathetic to Solas (not that she needed a lot of convincing)

 

Re his plans & Quizzie's reaction to them: I wonder how far out there they'd have to be for Quizzie to be unequivocally non-supportive. I could definitely roleplay to the mindset that she thinks it's a great idea to turn things back to the way they once were. Especially if Solas manages to rationalize how it may/may not hurt non-elves.

 

 

 

There's a Keeper schematic?! I need this.

 

OMG I've been trying to find this forever. I love my Keeper robes, but they could have better stats. I think I still have 5 more dragons to kill....

[DragonRacer]

could you tell me where this armor is? I found the Keeper robe, but not the Ancient keeper robe.

 

In the Shrine to Sylaise here:

 

[jellobell]

I dunno, I feel like they've made him too sympathetic to be a villain. Even an anti-villain. Killing someone who's helped you so much over a 100+ hour adventure, regardless of whether you romanced him or not, feels kinda gross. Especially if you largely agree with the way he views the world.

 

YMMV, of course. You always have the option of killing them. Like Anders and Blackwall. You can even stab Morrigan. But it's always one option among many.

[zambixi]

All of this speculation about how we might have to kill Solas is making me feel kind of sick.   I...really don't know what I'd do in that situation. Probably put the game down and never play it again.

 

Yeah... me too.

 

If the situation came between killing Solas or having my Lavellan die (and/or lose the game)... call me dramatic, but I'd pick the latter  .  I just don't like the idea of killing any companion (let alone a love interest).  I couldn't kill Anders, either.

 

 

I'm with ya'll. I didn't even like Anders, and I couldn't bring myself to kill him. I can't even just kick Sera out of the Inquisition and she drives me nuts. I feel like I'm incapable of allowing misfortune to fall on companions/player characters (sorry Stroud). With the Keep system you can't even pretend the DLC didn't happen - it fills it in for you in future games. I hope they take a softer approach...

 

 

Remember when he tells a romanced Lavellan that nobles would mark their slaves in regards to the vallaslin? He probably lived the life of a noble

 

Is the consensus that he was a noble powerful mage? I know he said he believed the ancient gods were "mages, or spirits, or something else you've never seen.." I like the idea that they're not *just* mages and are something more interesting than that. What do you all think?

 

 

EDIT General PSA: In a live Twitch interview/broadcast they announced that they have THREE patches in the works. One is in the final phase of testing, one is in QA, and one is in development. So if you're like me, and have been waiting for playthrough #2 until the companion quests and such are fixed...there may be hope soon.

[Lulumi_Lumi]

could you tell me where this armor is? I found the Keeper robe, but not the Ancient keeper robe.

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You have to take this route otherwise you won't reach it