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[Wheels]

Quizzy's room. On the wall behind the balcony overlooking her bed.

 

Ah, yeah. Just found it. Hm, sure it wasn't there before? I don't trust myself with things like that, and I was barely ever inside this room. :/

[DragonRacer]

One can only hope ;_;

 

One can always hope, little one.

 

There, there. *HUGS*

[InkQuest]

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I agree with scintilla on this! "Solas promises that "all will become clear." I think the word choice makes it sound like he's not actually going to stop and explain things but the results of whatever he planned with the orb would be self-evident. Then the orb breaks and he runs off in tears distraught." It's not an active "I promise to explain everything to you". It's a "things will make sense to you eventually".

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I definitely agree, too. I was just relaying what it was that he promised. I chose the dialogue option during the break up that resulted in "You'll see" so for me it really was just him reiterating that I'll see for myself later.

Idk if anyone is interested, but I did some art loosely based on Solas' tarot card   

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[Izzyl]

Also, I was running around Skyhold and has anybody else noticed this?

 

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It definitely wasn't there before I started upgrading Skyhold, and it looks to be in the same style as the elven fresco that Solas painted.

 

Isn't it a wolf hiding I see on the far right of the painting? 

[Tootles FTW]

Saw it discussed so I wanted to throw my two cents in on the final romance scene:

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Personally I think Solas was intending to end it with Lavellan almost as soon as the relationship started.  As Solas says, Lavellan was a completely unexpected influence in his life and not in "The Plan" and thus he keeps mentally throwing himself into a cold shower after every kiss.  However, Lavellan sweeps him off his feet and against all his better judgement he lets his heart trump his brain.  For a while I think he was genuinely happy with the situation and relatively angst-free (I imagine this period being the time between the balcony scene and up to the Well of Sorrows) because Corypheus wasn't a direct presence and he was allowed to put thoughts of the Orb aside for other concerns like the Wardens, the Fade, Orlesian politics, etc..

 

Then comes the Arbor Wilds which changes everything, as it re-establishes Corypheus as a threat to be dealt with sooner than later, and with Corypheus comes the Orb, and with the Orb returns Solas's self-imposed greater mission.  I personally think he took Lavellan to that secluded location to break up with her, and my reasoning is thus: It seems likely from his comments to Lavellan that he intended to tell her his plans once the Orb was in his possession, and I think he believed it a sufficient enough deception that it would break her in some way.  Now, as I said, we don't know what he intended to do with the Orb - but I think his "we can't be together...you'll see" line (sorry, paraphrasing) alludes that she would not like it.  Solas intends to protect her by snipping the relationship in the bud before it wounds her further, but as we all know...too little too late, dude.

 

Side-note: I also think he sincerely loves her and intended the vallaslin removal as an expression of that love.  To Solas, who is wounded by what the elves have become, he views the vallaslin as a chain connecting Lavellan to a bad memory.  He wanted to offer her the gift of freedom from the vallaslin, as well as from the false knowledge of the Dalish.  Freedom, as we know, is something Solas values above all else.  I find it very touching and sad in thinking that he was offering her physical freedom (from her face markings) as well as emotional freedom (from the pain his betrayal would inflict), only to have it explode in his face as a misguided gesture to cauterize a broken heart.

[DragonRacer]

Saw it discussed so I wanted to throw my two cents in on the final romance scene:

Spoiler

 

Personally I think Solas was intending to end it with Lavellan almost as soon as the relationship started.  As Solas says, Lavellan was a completely unexpected influence in his life and not in "The Plan" and thus he keeps mentally throwing himself into a cold shower after every kiss.  However, Lavellan sweeps him off his feet and against all his better judgement he lets his heart trump his brain.  For a while I think he was genuinely happy with the situation and relatively angst-free (I imagine this period being the time between the balcony scene and up to the Well of Sorrows) because Corypheus wasn't a direct presence and he was allowed to put thoughts of the Orb aside for other concerns like the Wardens, the Fade, Orlesian politics, etc..

 

Then comes the Arbor Wilds which changes everything, as it re-establishes Corypheus as a threat to be dealt with sooner than later, and with Corypheus comes the Orb, and with the Orb returns Solas's self-imposed greater mission.  I personally think he took Lavellan to that secluded location to break up with her, and my reasoning is thus: It seems likely from his comments to Lavellan that he intended to tell her his plans once the Orb was in his possession, and I think he believed it a sufficient enough deception that it would break her in some way.  Now, as I said, we don't know what he intended to do with the Orb - but I think his "we can't be together...you'll see" line (sorry, paraphrasing) alludes that she would not like it.  Solas intends to protect her by snipping the relationship in the bud before it wounds her further, but as we all know...too little too late, dude.

 

Side-note: I also think he sincerely loves her and intended the vallaslin removal as an expression of that love.  To Solas, who is wounded by what the elves have become, he views the vallaslin as a chain connecting Lavellan to a bad memory.  He wanted to offer her the gift of freedom from the vallaslin, as well as from the false knowledge of the Dalish.  Freedom, as we know, is something Solas values above all else.  I find it very touching and sad in thinking that he was offering her physical freedom (from her face markings) as well as emotional freedom (from the pain his betrayal would inflict), only to have it explode in his face as a misguided gesture to cauterize a broken heart.

 

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Rather heartbreaking that his "You are free" held double meaning, IMO. Free from the slave markings... and free from him (at least, in his mind) and whatever it is he is about to do.

[Dr. Doctor]

Hah. Look at me, mind going straight to the frick frack snick snack. 
 
As others have answered, sadly, no.
 
Why does the phrase "This is why we can't have nice things..." rolling through my head?

Someone needs to be reminded of the Dalish saying "Take the Dread Wolf by the ear."

[jellobell]

Ah, yeah. Just found it. Hm, sure it wasn't there before? I don't trust myself with things like that, and I was barely ever inside this room. :/

Or maybe I just never noticed it before?   Regardless, it looks to be the same style, and it has the Inquisition symbol. No way it was there before the Inquisition took control of Skyhold.

 

Now I'm imagining Solas sneaking up there to paint something for the Inquisitor to make her room more homey.

[DragonRacer]

Someone needs to be reminded of the Dalish saying "Take the Dread Wolf by the ear."

 

 

That kills me every time now, you know?

 

I will never... ever... EVER be able to hear "Take the Dread Wolf by the ear if he comes" and NOT bust out giggling like a middle school girl hitting puberty.

[Zaori]

Saw it discussed so I wanted to throw my two cents in on the final romance scene:

Spoiler

 

Personally I think Solas was intending to end it with Lavellan almost as soon as the relationship started.  As Solas says, Lavellan was a completely unexpected influence in his life and not in "The Plan" and thus he keeps mentally throwing himself into a cold shower after every kiss.  However, Lavellan sweeps him off his feet and against all his better judgement he lets his heart trump his brain.  For a while I think he was genuinely happy with the situation and relatively angst-free (I imagine this period being the time between the balcony scene and up to the Well of Sorrows) because Corypheus wasn't a direct presence and he was allowed to put thoughts of the Orb aside for other concerns like the Wardens, the Fade, Orlesian politics, etc..

 

Then comes the Arbor Wilds which changes everything, as it re-establishes Corypheus as a threat to be dealt with sooner than later, and with Corypheus comes the Orb, and with the Orb returns Solas's self-imposed greater mission.  I personally think he took Lavellan to that secluded location to break up with her, and my reasoning is thus: It seems likely from his comments to Lavellan that he intended to tell her his plans once the Orb was in his possession, and I think he believed it a sufficient enough deception that it would break her in some way.  Now, as I said, we don't know what he intended to do with the Orb - but I think his "we can't be together...you'll see" line (sorry, paraphrasing) alludes that she would not like it.  Solas intends to protect her by snipping the relationship in the bud before it wounds her further, but as we all know...too little too late, dude.

 

Side-note: I also think he sincerely loves her and intended the vallaslin removal as an expression of that love.  To Solas, who is wounded by what the elves have become, he views the vallaslin as a chain connecting Lavellan to a bad memory.  He wanted to offer her the gift of freedom from the vallaslin, as well as from the false knowledge of the Dalish.  Freedom, as we know, is something Solas values above all else.  I find it very touching and sad in thinking that he was offering her physical freedom (from her face markings) as well as emotional freedom (from the pain his betrayal would inflict), only to have it explode in his face as a misguided gesture to cauterize a broken heart.

Hmm, the way he calls her "his heart" all throughout and before the scene doesn't suggest to me that his mind was made up. It seems to me that it's here he realizes that in taking things further, as he would want to, he would only make it really hard on Lavellan. It seems there is a constant battle between mind and heart in him, doing what he thinks is right, and doing what he feels and wants. He clearly loves you, but he thinks his duty is too much of a burden to be shared, perhaps?

From being excessively warm and passionate to turning stone cold, it suggests to me an immense inner conflict and battle, as he tries to hold himself back and "do the right thing".
The way he says "in another world..." also seems to suggest that he would see this possible in a world restored,

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as he feels responsible for the current state of the world (or at least current state of his "elvhen" kin)

So complicated. (and fascinating) >.<

 

[SamanthaJ]

 

That kills me every time now, you know?

 

I will never... ever... EVER be able to hear "Take the Dread Wolf by the ear if he comes" and NOT bust out giggling like a middle school girl hitting puberty.

It's funny because [CENSORED].

[Addai]

Hmm, the way he calls her "his heart" all throughout and before the scene doesn't suggest to me that his mind was made up. It seems to me that it's here he realizes that in taking things further, as he would want to, he would only make it really hard on Lavellan. It seems there is a constant battle between mind and heart in him, doing what he thinks is right, and doing what he feels and wants. He clearly loves you, but he thinks his duty is too much of a burden to be shared, perhaps?

From being excessively warm and passionate to turning stone cold, it suggests to me an immense inner conflict and battle, as he tries to hold himself back and "do the right thing".
The way he says "in another world..." also seems to suggest that he would see this possible in a world restored,

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as he feels responsible for the current state of the world (or at least current state of his "elvhen" kin)

Ahh Solas, why you so complicated? (and fascinating) >.<

Yeah I think he knew he'd have to eventually, but was putting it off, and

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his own words to her "all I can give you is the truth" got to him because of his own deceptions. Maybe then he was tempted to tell her the truth about himself, but realized that doing so would create a bondage for her more profound than any symbolic markings. So I think he made the final decision to break it off then and there.

[jellobell]

 

That kills me every time now, you know?

 

I will never... ever... EVER be able to hear "Take the Dread Wolf by the ear if he comes" and NOT bust out giggling like a middle school girl hitting puberty.

Poor Merrill.   I kinda want my Quizzy and Merrill to get together and talk sometime.

 

"So, wait, I don't think I heard that right. He was the Dread Wolf? The Dread Wolf?"

 

"It's...a long story."

 

"Ah. Well then.

 

...D'you think he hears whenever you swear by his name? Creators, I hope he doesn't."

 

And that made me go look up her explanation of the Betrayal again.

 

 

Y'know, endless godly warfare really doesn't sound like a good thing. Listening to this story again, Fen'harel seems a lot more benevolent, even in the Dalish's own lore.

[DragonRacer]

Poor Merrill.   I kinda want my Quizzy and Merrill to get together and talk sometime.

 

"So, wait, I don't think I heard that right. He was the Dread Wolf? The Dread Wolf?"

 

"It's...a long story."

 

"Ah. Well then.

 

...D'you think he hears whenever you swear by his name? Creators, I hope he doesn't."

 

And that made me go look up her explanation of the Betrayal again.

 

 

Y'know, endless godly warfare really doesn't sound like a good thing. Listening to this story again, Fen'harel seems a lot more benevolent, even in the Dalish's own lore.

 

He put them in eternal timeout.

 

Seems pretty reasonable to me, honestly, given how they were acting.

 

*shrugs*

[Wheels]

He put them in eternal timeout.

 

Seems pretty reasonable to me, honestly, given how they were acting.

 

*shrugs*

 

Good thing we're not the least bit biased...

But of course you're right ^^

[Tootles FTW]

Hmm, the way he calls her "his heart" all throughout and before the scene doesn't suggest to me that his mind was made up. It seems to me that it's here he realizes that in taking things further, as he would want to, he would only make it really hard on Lavellan. It seems there is a constant battle between mind and heart in him, doing what he thinks is right, and doing what he feels and wants. He clearly loves you, but he thinks his duty is too much of a burden to be shared, perhaps?

From being excessively warm and passionate to turning stone cold, it suggests to me an immense inner conflict and battle, as he tries to hold himself back and "do the right thing".
The way he says "in another world..." also seems to suggest that he would see this possible in a world restored,

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as he feels responsible for the current state of the world (or at least current state of his "elvhen" kin)

Ahh Solas, why you so complicated? (and fascinating) >.<

 

 

I didn't mean for it to sound like he was constantly brooding that he needs to end it, and in what way.  Just that he never intended it to start to begin with (as evident in the first two romance scenes, he keeps trying to snap himself out of it, haha).  I think from the balcony scene to the Well of Sorrows his mind was almost 100% off of where or how their relationship was going, just that it was going and he was happy.

 

I adore the "I love you" option, but the "Tell me you don't care!" line gets that great response of "I can't do that".  He is totally head over heels in love with this girl, that's why I'm not heartbroken over the romance.  Yet.  The Quizzie's story isn't over and Solas is now a Dragon Age VIP - we'll see them reunited!  /cheerleader rah rahs/

[DragonRacer]

Good thing we're not the least bit biased...

But of course you're right ^^

 

I'm never biased. I just simply choose the correct side every time.

[HurricaneGinger]

Eternal time-out. I like that. XD

[Solas]

^ And yet many of you say you'd help Solas undo what he did, if he only gave you the option to help

 

I've thought about it some and I've come to the conclusion that I don't think unleashing the gods on the world is a good idea.

 

Side note: I think Solas broke it off with Lavellan for a combination of several different reasons, not one single reason alone. "It's more complicated than that" after all.

[DragonRacer]

^ And yet many of you say you'd help Solas undo what he did, if he only gave you the option to help

 

I've thought about it some and I've come to the conclusion that I don't think unleashing the gods on the world is a good idea.

 

Side note: I think Solas broke it off with Lavellan for a combination of several different reasons, not one single reason alone. "It's more complicated than that" after all.

 

Love is a helluva drug. It can make you do some pretty crazy things.

 

I would have to say I agree with you. My gut instinct is that opening the old elvhen floodgates is a bad idea for all of Thedas in general.

 

My *hope* is that my Lavellan will be able to talk him down from the ledge. Through measured, calm logic since I'm pretty sure that's going to be the only reasonable way to get him to abandon such a goal, if that's his true mission at the moment.

[Zaori]

I didn't mean for it to sound like he was constantly brooding that he needs to end it, and in what way.  Just that he never intended it to start to begin with (as evident in the first two romance scenes, he keeps trying to snap himself out of it, haha).  I think from the balcony scene to the Well of Sorrows his mind was almost 100% off of where or how their relationship was going, just that it was going and he was happy.

 

I adore the "I love you" option, but the "Tell me you don't care!" line gets that great response of "I can't do that".  He is totally head over heels in love with this girl, that's why I'm not heartbroken over the romance.  Yet.  The Quizzie's story isn't over and Solas is now a Dragon Age VIP - we'll see them reunited!  /cheerleader rah rahs/

Haha, heck yes. I'm reaaaaally hoping Bioware gives us the option to reunite them ;_;

[Solas]

I think the way forward for the elves of Thedas is something they'll have to create for themselves in the present. The ancient elves and their gods were douchebags. Advanced powerful douchebags, but douchebags. Time for elves to look to the future instead of grubbing around blindly in the ashes of the past. Time for Dalish clans to unite and work together with City Elves to improve their collective lot. Time for elves in leadership positions - Briala, Lavellan, even Solas, if he pulled his egghead out his ass - to use their power for the betterment of the elven people. #realtalk

 

If she can't talk him down, I hope she can at least defeat him and then have the option of sparing his life.

[Tootles FTW]

^ And yet many of you say you'd help Solas undo what he did, if he only gave you the option to help

 

I've thought about it some and I've come to the conclusion that I don't think unleashing the gods on the world is a good idea.

 

Side note: I think Solas broke it off with Lavellan for a combination of several different reasons, not one single reason alone. "It's more complicated than that" after all.

 

My thing is that I'm now completely uncertain as to their nature.  We only have Solas and Flemeth to go off of in judging the "gods", and I don't consider either to be a power-level that would concern me in waking their peers.  Sure, Flemeth can become a dragon and split her soul into pieces...but she's a person with goals, wants, and desires that can be reasoned with.  

[HurricaneGinger]

^ And yet many of you say you'd help Solas undo what he did, if he only gave you the option to help

 

I've thought about it some and I've come to the conclusion that I don't think unleashing the gods on the world is a good idea.

 

Side note: I think Solas broke it off with Lavellan for a combination of several different reasons, not one single reason alone. "It's more complicated than that" after all.

 

It is, indeed, more complicated than what we believe and see. I go back and forth from "ELVEN GLORY FTW" to "he put them away for a reason, what if they start ******-slapping each other as soon as they wake up?" He did not think sealing them away would impact his culture so dramatically, but bringing them all back, all at once...all that power they hold? It's...frightening to think about. What would happen? Would they finally listen to him, and even my Lavellan, or would they go out and conquer and raise yet another empire under their "godhood"? 

 

NOW I'M BACK TO "KEEP THEM LOCKED UP". 8[

[SamanthaJ]

I think the way forward for the elves of Thedas is something they'll have to create for themselves in the present. Time for them to look to the future instead of grubbing around blindly in the ashes of the past. Time for Dalish clans to unite and work together with City Elves to improve their collective lot. Time for elves in leadership positions - Briala, Lavellan, even Solas, if he pulled his head out his ass - to use their power for the betterment of the elven people.

 

If she can't talk him down, I hope she can at least defeat him and then have the option of sparing his life.

I would be totally happy if we could at least have a DILF husbando that never was Loghain or Anders type scenario if nothing else should the thing Solas is planning call for it.