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[Morroian]

Mythal hasn't just returned though. She's always been present since her murder. At least since Flemeth was a young woman, That's a long time.

 

That kind of depends what Flemeth is. Is she someone possessed by Mythal's spirit? Is she perhaps like Cole? Or is she Mythal in hte flesh?

[Mims]

I noticed that, and I honestly prefer it this way.  The "flirts" in DA2 were kind of jarring, tbh.

 

Fenris: Danarius wishes to the rip the lyrium from my flesh!

Hawke: What a waste of a perfectly handsome elf   

 

Anders: ...and that's when I took a spirit of Justice into my body and he became Vengeance...

Hawke: At least he has a nice body 

 

The flirts for Sebastian were equally horrible. It felt more like sexual harassment than flirting. 

[Zaori]

After looking at Sola's Tarot card I realize he has 9 stars around him and there are 9 elven gods including fen harel

That's really interesting! Cool observation. The spheres are also interesting, the sun for Elgar'nan, and the moon for Mythal. Hmm.  

[Solas]

Completely random question: does anyone remember who was the first person in this thread to use the term "Wolf Hunt" / "Wolf Hunt DLC"? LOL

[scintilla]

 

That kind of depends what Flemeth is. Is she someone possessed by Mythal's spirit? Is she perhaps like Cole? Or is she Mythal in hte flesh?

 

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Flemeth answers that if you ask her. She's possessed by Mythal. The implication is that they're merged like Anders and Vengeance are/were.

[kalasaurus]

thank you!! sorry I missed it. this thread is fast moving

I'll update OP with this now

 

done. I like having all the cool little notes and stuff by or about Solas collected together there so if i missed something let me know

No problem, I guessed as much

[coldwetn0se]

Question: Does your journal show/mention anywhere, regarding the elven artifacts? I have activated that quest on all of my current quizzies, but not because Solas says anything, but because I just come upon Malhris (so getting her name wrong, I have no doubt ). And I don't get anything in my journal, the way I do with Blackwall's Warden bits, and Varric's red lyrium.

As per the question that @Chanda asked, I definitely think he is worth it. And this from someone who did NOT take the Thane romance well, in ME3. YMMV of course, but his content is definite quality. Oh Yes!

[myahele]

Mythal is associated with the moon? I thought Mythal created a bowl for the Sun (Elgar nan "dad") so he can rest at night and that bowl was more or less the moon or something like that

[Eivuwan]

Ok, I still can't find that fan art of Solas weeping. Where do you guys usually find fan art?

[TurtleTape]

Question: Does your journal show/mention anywhere, regarding the elven artifacts? I have activated that quest on all of my current quizzies, but not because Solas says anything, but because I just come upon Malhris (so getting her name wrong, I have no doubt ). And I don't get anything in my journal, the way I do with Blackwall's Warden bits, and Varric's red lyrium.

As per the question that @Chanda asked, I definitely think he is worth it. And this from someone who did NOT take the Thane romance well, in ME3. YMMV of course, but his content is definite quality. Oh Yes!

 

 

I keep staring at that gif and I can't help it, though maybe the fact that he isn't saying anything like "oh, yes" is part of it.

[jellobell]

Ok, I still can't find that fan art of Solas weeping. Where do you guys usually find fan art?

I found a bunch on Deviantart. Is this the one you're talking about?

 

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That veilfire rune is a nice touch.

[DragonRacer]

Question: Does your journal show/mention anywhere, regarding the elven artifacts? I have activated that quest on all of my current quizzies, but not because Solas says anything, but because I just come upon Malhris (so getting her name wrong, I have no doubt ). And I don't get anything in my journal, the way I do with Blackwall's Warden bits, and Varric's red lyrium.

As per the question that @Chanda asked, I definitely think he is worth it. And this from someone who did NOT take the Thane romance well, in ME3. YMMV of course, but his content is definite quality. Oh Yes!

Nope. Only marks that first one. Afterwards, you just listen for Solas to tell you one is near and off you go on an Easter egg hunt. LOL

[Eivuwan]

I FOUND IT!

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[coldwetn0se]

I keep staring at that gif and I can't help it, though maybe the fact that he isn't saying anything like "oh, yes" is part of it.

Heh! yeah....the gif maker grabbed the line right before the "Oh Yes!". So it does throw one, a bit.
But the "Oh yes!" is at the very end of the line.

[Chanda]

I have a question that I didn't see listed in the FAQ (or if it is there, I'm just blind.)

 

Regarding Cole: 

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In Cole's quest, Solas insists that he remain a spirit, but Varric insists that he needs to be more humanized. I want to do the right thing for Cole, but I also want Solas's approval. So... What's the right thing for Cole? And is Solas going to hate me if I make him more human? And what happens if I make him more a spirit?

[TurtleTape]

I found a bunch on Deviantart. Is this the one you're talking about?

 

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That veilfire rune is a nice touch.

 

 

Aaaand that's saved to my computer. Holy eff that's awesome.

[Eivuwan]

I found a bunch on Deviantart. Is this the one you're talking about?

 

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That veilfire rune is a nice touch.

 

This one's cool, but I like mine a bit more because of the cute angle.

[BubbleDncr]

I noticed that, and I honestly prefer it this way.  The "flirts" in DA2 were kind of jarring, tbh.

 

Fenris: Danarius wishes to the rip the lyrium from my flesh!

Hawke: What a waste of a perfectly handsome elf   

 

Anders: ...and that's when I took a spirit of Justice into my body and he became Vengeance...

Hawke: At least he has a nice body 

 

I actually just eventually started to interpret the heart icon to mean "caring" dialog option instead of "flirting" dialog option.

[jellobell]

Can I just say how much I love that first flirt option? The one where you tell him that you'll protect him. And not in an innuendo-y way either. It fit my Inquisitor so much. Because he was the one who showed her that she could make a difference by closing the rifts, when before she had been confused and uncertain if she could do anything to help. And his "Thank you" seemed both surprised and heartfelt.

 

And it makes me hope that we will the opportunity to protect him later on, perhaps from himself. I don't think he's had someone to look out for him in a long time.

[scintilla]

I have a question that I didn't see listed in the FAQ (or if it is there, I'm just blind.)

 

Regarding Cole: 

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In Cole's quest, Solas insists that he remain a spirit, but Varric insists that he needs to be more humanized. I want to do the right thing for Cole, but I also want Solas's approval. So... What's the right thing for Cole? And is Solas going to hate me if I make him more human? And what happens if I make him more a spirit?

 

They're both good for him.

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He has more potential to understand, to learn and grow as a human. He's... happier as a spirit? Maybe less confused is a better way to say it. He has better access to his abilities and thanks you for accepting him and believing in him. Solas doesn't hate you if you make him more human. He comes around to it but his approval does drop for going that way.

[coldwetn0se]

I have a question that I didn't see listed in the FAQ (or if it is there, I'm just blind.)
 
Regarding Cole: 

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In Cole's quest, Solas insists that he remain a spirit, but Varric insists that he needs to be more humanized. I want to do the right thing for Cole, but I also want Solas's approval. So... What's the right thing for Cole? And is Solas going to hate me if I make him more human? And what happens if I make him more a spirit?

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I haven't actually gotten to that part yet, but I am spoiled "somewhat" on it. I rather view the choice as neither good vs. bad, but more, just different. Either can be viewed as the right choice, depending on how you are role playing your character. I know that my Freya will definitely encourage Cole to stay "true to his nature", so to speak. But I am unsure how Ulee will react. She is a wait and see. One of the very first lines that Cole can say to the inquisitor, is in regards to the Inquisitor asking if he would rather go someplace more comfortable (since his empathy is so fine tuned to the dying soldiers). He initially says "Yes", but he goes on further to explain that he is better off where he is, since he can do the most good there. It is where "he can help". This to me is very telling. It basically means, that he does like the idea of being happy/comfortable, BUT he also knows that what he is right now, is how he can be of the most use. In a sense.

Anyway, that is my take on all of that. Not sure that is helpful. lol!

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[Uirebhiril]

Can I just say how much I love that first flirt option? The one where you tell him that you'll protect him. And not in an innuendo-y way either. It fit my Inquisitor so much. Because he was the one who showed her that she could make a difference by closing the rifts, when before she had been confused and uncertain if she could do anything to help. And his "Thank you" seemed both surprised and heartfelt.

 

 

What I liked about that is how much sense it makes in my Lavellan's mind. The rest of the clan protects the Keeper, yes? He might not be that to her, but he is clearly someone with a lot of knowledge and worthy of respect, at least for trying to help with the breach. It's all the same to her in that regard.

 

I did appreciate how the flirts were not overt. They didn't need to be. It was quite refreshing.

[Brass_Buckles]

I'm not sure I hold the truth though...

 

But didn't one mention that Fen'Harel was "waking up" and too weak to use the Orb and that would explain why he gave the Orb to Corypheus? 

 

Ok I have a headache now lol! XD   

 

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I don't remember his dialogue suggesting he GAVE the orb to Corypheus, but I may be misremembering what I heard.  I was under the impression that it was stolen from him because he was too weak to defend it at the time.  Perhaps it was Corypheus who woke him while searching elven ruins?

 

 

I agree with this. 

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You can see it in his eyes when he pulls away.  His eyes are wide, like he just realized that he is making a terrible mistake.  I think he realized that he intends to do go places where she cannot (or he believes she will not) follow him and doesn't want to cause her worse pain in the future.  I got that from the little conversation he had with Cole, after the credits.  Either that, or he realized he was just thinking about throwing away all he was working for to be with her, and that he needs to do what the people need (I'm guessing the ancient elves), not what he wants. 

 

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I don't believe he set out with the intent to break up with her.  He took her someplace private and special to tell her how special she was to him, and he might have planned to tell her something more than just about the meaning of vallaslin.  But, he obviously felt from the beginning that romance was a bad idea (forever reluctant).  I wonder if he broke it off because he happened to realize that if he kept going, he was going to have to explain things to her.  If she took it well, that wouldn't have been a bad thing, but then it also might endanger her.  But the problem is, once he explained, "My heart, I am actually Fen'Harel," how well do you think that's going to go over with a Dalish elf?  It doesn't matter what lore she'd uncovered, her gut reaction would probably be unpleasant to say the least--assuming she managed to believe him at all.  And, others are right--at that point it may have been a matter of continuing the relationship or moving forward with his plans, either due to danger to Lavellan or simply because he didn't feel she'd be able to help.  And then there's the whole "he's immortal, and Lavellan isn't" deal.  I do wonder what would have happened if he'd gotten his orb back, but considering it appeared to be corrupted by Corypheus at that point, it might be for the best that he didn't.  And yet, perhaps, if he had, it would not have been the end of their relationship either.

 

Here's another thought for you, though... Solas is Fen'Harel, an ancient elven god.  Even assuming Lavellan can handle his being Fen'Harel, how is she going to take his being a god?  If she's faithful to her people's religion, then that puts him into a position unimaginably higher than hers.  What right does she have to be with a god?  Solas might have had to consider that, too.  It would have complicated things, and, given the Inquisition's Chantry ties (like it or not), might have automatically put him at odds with the Inquisition and definitely with the Chantry, regardless of Lavellan's personal wishes.

 

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From what we know of clan Lavellan, they are quite open and diplomatic as opposed to the isolationist "jerkbag" brand of Dalish. I don't think she would be an outcast; I think they would welcome her back with open arms regardless of her vallaslin.

 

iirc Solas doesn't promise an explanation exactly.

 

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He does promise clarification, and says they'll discuss it later post-battle.  And then he leaves, without even a note with a fake reason for leaving.  My Lavellan will undoubtedly wait out her years hoping he'll finally make good on his word--and not daring to trust anyone else enough to fall in love.  The game gave her dialogue saying she'd never done "anything like this" before after that first kiss in the Fade.  I inferred from that that she's meant to be a romantically inexperienced virgin.  That makes Solas's breakup all the more heartbreaking... for a first love to go THAT badly.

 

Saw it discussed so I wanted to throw my two cents in on the final romance scene:

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Personally I think Solas was intending to end it with Lavellan almost as soon as the relationship started.  As Solas says, Lavellan was a completely unexpected influence in his life and not in "The Plan" and thus he keeps mentally throwing himself into a cold shower after every kiss.  However, Lavellan sweeps him off his feet and against all his better judgement he lets his heart trump his brain.  For a while I think he was genuinely happy with the situation and relatively angst-free (I imagine this period being the time between the balcony scene and up to the Well of Sorrows) because Corypheus wasn't a direct presence and he was allowed to put thoughts of the Orb aside for other concerns like the Wardens, the Fade, Orlesian politics, etc..

 

Then comes the Arbor Wilds which changes everything, as it re-establishes Corypheus as a threat to be dealt with sooner than later, and with Corypheus comes the Orb, and with the Orb returns Solas's self-imposed greater mission.  I personally think he took Lavellan to that secluded location to break up with her, and my reasoning is thus: It seems likely from his comments to Lavellan that he intended to tell her his plans once the Orb was in his possession, and I think he believed it a sufficient enough deception that it would break her in some way.  Now, as I said, we don't know what he intended to do with the Orb - but I think his "we can't be together...you'll see" line (sorry, paraphrasing) alludes that she would not like it.  Solas intends to protect her by snipping the relationship in the bud before it wounds her further, but as we all know...too little too late, dude.

 

Side-note: I also think he sincerely loves her and intended the vallaslin removal as an expression of that love.  To Solas, who is wounded by what the elves have become, he views the vallaslin as a chain connecting Lavellan to a bad memory.  He wanted to offer her the gift of freedom from the vallaslin, as well as from the false knowledge of the Dalish.  Freedom, as we know, is something Solas values above all else.  I find it very touching and sad in thinking that he was offering her physical freedom (from her face markings) as well as emotional freedom (from the pain his betrayal would inflict), only to have it explode in his face as a misguided gesture to cauterize a broken heart.

 

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I think he was continually hedging on whether or not he should end the relationship.  He knew it was a bad idea, knew he'd have to leave her sooner or later, but obviously he did want to keep going.  Lavellan was just so tempting--he wanted her, and remarkably enough she seemed to want him back.  That made it hard to exercise the restraint he probably would have preferred.  But I think by that final scene, he didn't want to break things off.  I think even Solas is aware that it would be terrible to take your loved one somewhere special and share a tender moment, only to break up with them.   He was enjoying being in love.  What happened, or what he was thinking, that caused him to need to do break away, we can't be sure--other than we know he had other plans.  Any other motivations, we can only speculate about.  The only thing we do have some evidence for is that he never thought it was going to last--but the last scene provides evidence that he wanted it to, very badly.

 

Did not realize that. Wow.

 

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Jealous Wolf God is jealous. LMAO

 

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Amusing, but I was wondering if you flirted with someone else whether he might say something to you.  Actually I'd say he's NOT jealous, if he simply refuses to be with you if you're flirting.  To me, jealousy is a lot uglier of an emotion--so, no, I'd say it's more that he just wants to be an exclusive lover.  Makes sense in the context of wolves mating for life.

 

... Which thought makes me wonder whether Solas will ever move on from Lavellan.  We know it won't happen in the course of the Dragon Age games, because they have a policy of not making past romances available in new games.  (So please please please let us resolve the romance somehow in a DLC or expansion, BioWare?)

 

I love Hawke's outrageous flirts. They're hilarious. I might kind of wish that we had a couple still. Just a little. It's like a guilty pleasure.

 

I love the subtle flirts in Inquisition too. They're more emotional responses than the others, and it really makes the voice acting shine. I especially loved the sidequest for Cassandra to get the book.

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Varric's romance novel. If you flirt with her in it, you say something about how you should read the book too. And she looks scandalized that the Inquisitor would read smut. It's hilarious.

 

I noticed that sometimes, Solas's responses to the early minor flirts were either seemingly nonromantic or romantic in subtle ways.  Like he was amused by the flirting, and liked it, but wanted to deflect it.

[Chanda]

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I haven't actually gotten to that part yet, but I am spoiled "somewhat" on it. I rather view the choice as neither good vs. bad, but more, just different. Either can be viewed as the right choice, depending on how you are role playing your character. I know that my Freya will definitely encourage Cole to stay "true to his nature", so to speak. But I am unsure how Ulee will react. She is a wait and see. One of the very first lines that Cole can say to the inquisitor, is in regards to the Inquisitor asking if he would rather go someplace more comfortable (since his empathy is so fine tuned to the dying soldiers). He initially says "Yes", but he goes on further to explain that he is better off where he is, since he can do the most good there. It is where "he can help". This to me is very telling. It basically means, that he does like the idea of being happy/comfortable, BUT he also knows that what he is right now, is how he can be of the most use. In a sense.

Anyway, that is my take on all of that. Not sure that is helpful. lol!

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Sorry...put in spoiler tags.

 

 

I just watched two videos, one goes one way, the other the opposite... And in one, Solas drops a little approval, and in the other, he greatly approves, so I think I know my answer. Thanks!

[InkQuest]

I have a question that I didn't see listed in the FAQ (or if it is there, I'm just blind.)

 

Regarding Cole: 

Spoiler

In Cole's quest, Solas insists that he remain a spirit, but Varric insists that he needs to be more humanized. I want to do the right thing for Cole, but I also want Solas's approval. So... What's the right thing for Cole? And is Solas going to hate me if I make him more human? And what happens if I make him more a spirit?

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I don't know exactly how it plays out in the long run with making him more of a spirit, but if you choose to make him more human it causes him to lose the ability to make people forget. But, he says he gets a better understanding of how to help people now that he can learn and grow as a person. It really isn't a "this option is good, this one is bad" sort of deal, because both options are good in their own way! I, personally, enjoy the human route.

I may have also made him more human to spite Solas 

 

Edit: Whoops, didn't see you made your choice!