At some point the poor devs are going to tear their hair out and start frothing "Find out in game, dammit!"
Or at least, that's what I used to do when DMing and people kept asking stuff that they would have found out if they just played the damn game...
My team is gonna be Cass/Cole/Solas, so...
If Solas is unavailable to my male Dalish Quizzy, he'll be the uncle. Otherwise it's Aunt Cass. 
My team is gonna be Cass/Cole/Solas, so...
If Solas is unavailable to my male Dalish Quizzy, he'll be the uncle. Otherwise it's Aunt Cass.
I would have said Solas if he were an option. I'm half expecting him to be the fatherly figure to Cole whether you romance him or not.
Yea that's what I was thinking. Also in DA: 2 Varric also proves that he would make a good uncle. He watched out for some of the companions especially Merrill by paying off the guards and giving her the ball of twine for when she got lost.
My thoughts exactly! I keep going back and forth on whether I want to play as a rogue or a mage for my first playthrough though. Which means I'd probably have better party balance with Blackwall playing uncle...Hm.
I would have said Solas if he were an option.
Same. My party will definitely be Solas and Cole on my first playthrough, it's that coveted third spot I keep angsting over!! lol
I'd say either Blackwall or the IB, who's been said to think of him as a kid who needs to learn how to have fun. Blackwall would be the cool, nice uncle (and I think they'll share many points of view) and the IB a terrible (yet well-intended) influence. Varric... after Justice I'm not sure he'll be cool with having more spirits around, so who knows. And I hope Cassandra doesn't hate him, or the only positive femenine influence the guy will have around will be mine, given what Sera and Vivienne think of him.Also, yes, toss it into twitter, please. I'm kinda curious as well
Seeing as how Cass, Solas, and Cole together are team "Mutually Respectful Moral and Theological Debate' I think Cass might be alright with Cole. Her character thus far has been all about the truth, and the truth is that Cole's a rather complicated case (Solas battlecry ftw) and therefore can't be treated like an ordinary demon or spirit, even if he technically is one.
Okay, I couldn't contain my curiosity. Fired off a tweet, hopefully I don't get shot in the face!!
Seeing as how Cass, Solas, and Cole together are team "Mutually Respectful Moral and Theological Debate' then I think Cass might be alright with Cole. Her character thus far has been all about the truth, and the truth is that Cole's a rather complicated case (Solas battlecry ftw) and therefore can't be treated like an ordinary demon or spirit, even if he technically is one.
True, true... I think I'm going to take those three with me a lot 
I usually try to use everyone in my first playthrough, but... Three of my (most probably) favorite characters actually getting along like this will be hard to ignore.
Okay, I couldn't contain my curiosity. Fired off a tweet, hopefully I don't get shot in the face!!
I'm going to bed now but I'm gonna check this tomorrow. I'm too exited about this game, those next months will be terrible. And awesome.
Good night people!
Okay, I couldn't contain my curiosity. Fired off a tweet, hopefully I don't get shot in the face!!
Good luck! 
It will be interesting to see what his response is.
I would have said Solas if he were an option.
Cole can have two dads and a mom in that case then. 
I hope Solas has blue, grey or violet eyes like we thought he had before. 
As far as romance goes, here are my hopes for my various inquisitors:
Male Inquisitors: Solas (would be lovely) > Dorian > Cassandra
Female Inquisitors: Solas (obviously) > Cullen > Varric (I can dream) > Sera
They are in descending order of preference. lol
Edit: I just realized, but I'm really having a preference for the male companions announced so far over the female ones. I really don't like Vivienne at all. I'm meh about Cassandra. Sera is the only one I can really see myself coming to like more in time.
Just caught up with the last 8 pages of the thread. Awesome news that Solas is in his early to mid-forties, should give him a more mature perspective - although I obviously haven't grown up (fangirl squee at older Solas) and I'm in my early forties.
Romances, well, since we're speculating and they haven't ruled out anyone but Cole (which is fine because he's just a kid)
Solas> Varric> Cullen >Blackwall>>>>Iron Bull>Sera for my female Inquisitors
Dorian>Cassandra>>>>>>Vivienne for my male Inquisitors
These may change after I meet the companions, but for the first time I may have to do my second playthrough with a male PC just to play through Dorian's romance arc. And from the perspective of married with children, asexual romances do not cut it for me. I don't care if they fade to black for the actual scene (I would probably prefer it because the muchkins will no doubt want to sneak in to watch me play at that EXACT moment), but my Inquisitor is not going to run around pining for Solas without dragging him off to bed. The world might be ending - of course they are going to jump in the sack - there might not be a chance tomorrow.
I blame Zevran for this post
I keep telling everyone, looking forward to Solas as an LI is probably a mistake... I don't want to be negative, but I also don't want everyone here to go all squee and gleeee and then be crushed because they can't have him, or worse, they can have him and he turns out to be completely unenjoyable as a love interest when the game is actually released.
They did have Thane in ME2 as an LI who was in his 40s or so, but that was the Mass Effect team (of course... Patrick Weekes WAS on the Mass Effect team...). I have the impression that people in Thedas don't live as long as the people of the Mass Effect universe; if you're in the ME-verse, then you will probably live to around 120 or older (if human), so ten years is not that huge a difference if you're both adults. In Thedas, I'd guess most people don't live much past 70, if they even make it that long, considering what I'd guess at for Wynne's age (I'm guessing at this based on the supposed age of Rhys--probably in his mid-40s--and she considers herself old enough to be long-dead).
I wish he could be, don't get me wrong. His age doesn't bother me, though I'd most likely consider him too old for me if he were a real-world person; I prefer people closer to my own age, but this is a video game. With a certain degree of age differences, people tend to be at totally different places in their lives, wanting different things, at differing levels of maturity or lack thereof. It would be refreshing for BioWare to offer up some 40-somethings as romantic interests, but it seems likely to me that their romances will mostly be in the 20s-30s range, with maybe one or two being early-40s--because that's usually the age range of romances.
But, based on what little evidence we have... Solas is about 99% likely to not be a romance. He talks about "kids these days," for starters--which could include the Inquisitor; we don't know. That doesn't mean he's closed off to the idea, but if he sees the Inquisitor as a child, then being romanced by him/her would become automatically creepy. His age range also seems higher than usual for a Bioware romance--not that I'd object, but BioWare may be presuming a 20-something to 30-something range in their primary audience (since evidence indicates gamers are on average in or approaching their 30s now). We also know that Iron Bull will "sleep with anyone he doesn't think he will break." To me that suggests Iron Bull as the bisexual romance. Dorian is the gay romance. Cullen is the only remaining romance option.
To analyze this further... Solas is all alone, wandering. He's been this way for a long time. If he's in his 40s, maybe he's already had a family, or tried out romance, and it either ended (poorly or otherwise), or he learned it wasn't for him. Perhaps he's asexual and more inclined toward bromance than romance. Perhaps he is romantically involved with a spirit. We don't know. Either way, he's run across other people on his journey and yet he remains alone. You could argue he just hasn't found the right person yet, but you could also argue that he's just not looking for love.
Many have pointed out that Solas is dry, stoic, levelheaded, openminded, etc. and that these are all awesome traits of awesomeness that they'd want in their Inquisitor's LI. The devs, on the other hand, didn't make Varric a romance initially because he didn't really have conflicts etc. set up and they felt he'd be boring as a romance. If Solas is precisely what we want (not really extreme to any end, generally kind, intelligent, stoic, dry, etc. etc. etc.), the developers might have felt he'd be a bland, disinteresting romance because where are his personal dilemmas that will cause conflict to iron out in that relationship? Personally I'd be okay with a "boring" romance, without any angst or personal drama--a single source of stability in a chaotic and unstable world--but most people wouldn't be.
If all of that isn't enough, well... some of his concept art makes him look older, and that gives a more "mentor" or "wise old hermit" vibe, to me.
If Solas is a romance, he will likely be an "extra," or more likely it's Bull who's the extra, but you know what I mean. We do know that there is race gating, and we've been told everyone nevertheless has options. To me this says Iron Bull at least won't be available to any and all, likely he's only available to humans and qunari. So, Solas could be an extra option to make up for the lack thereof for those who can't romance Bull. Or those of us who don't want Iron Bull, or can't have him, may be assumed to have sufficient choice between him and, say, Cullen, or if male, then Dorian. If everyone has multiple options, then there probably are eight romances, with four most likely being bisexual. But the developers only said everyone will have options, not that everyone will have more than one option. I infer that we'll have six and only six until the chart/LI list/whatever is officially released.
Long story short, the more info we have, the less I expect Solas to end up being on the list of LIs. On the one hand, that's sad because no male elf romance (and my Dalish Inquisitor will be celibate)... but it would also be refreshing because really, do all elven companions need to be LIs?
Also, while I took the "just the average elven apostate" line from Patrick Weekes to mean that, well, most elven apostates would not go to the Inquisition during a mage/templar, elf/human conflict, I wouldn't take being told his age to necessarily discount him as potentially an ancient elf. While I think it's more likely he's a standard apostate and exactly what he appears to be, the early-to-mid-40s age might only be his physical/intended apparent age. If he were an ancient elf, the developers would not spoil that for us by telling us he's, say, 3,000 years old or so (I know that's not right but I'm not sure how long ago Arlathan/the Dales fell in the current Thedas timeline).
I keep telling everyone, looking forward to Solas as an LI is probably a mistake... I don't want to be negative, but I also don't want everyone here to go all squee and gleeee and then be crushed because they can't have him, or worse, they can have him and he turns out to be completely unenjoyable as a love interest when the game is actually released.
*snip*
You can't tell people how to feel. Just let everyone have their fun while they can have it..
I'm not super worried about it tbh. If he isn't a romance option I'll be sad for a few minutes but I'll get over it quickly. He'll still be an integral part of my party regardless.
I'm an eternal optimist (masochist?) and will keep my hopes up to the bitter end.
Yeah, I don't want to depress people but his odds are looking really bad, and I'm pointing it out so we can all cheer if I turn out to be wrong. I really want to be wrong in this case... but the current evidence makes it seem like I'm right. If I'm right, there's always fanfiction, of course, but obviously I get that it just isn't the same. So I'm basically in your shoes, not expecting, but hoping. Or in my case, hoping but bracing for the worst and warning everyone else not to get TOO far ahead of themselves. I've written some little goofy romance banters myself, but the more info we have the more people I see churning out romance speculation, romance banters, etc. in this thread... So I don't want to see the misery if (when?) it turns out he's not even available.
You can't tell people how to feel. Just let everyone have their fun while they can have it..
My problem isn't that people are having fun, it's that a few are gonna end up depressed if it turns out he's not a romance option. Honestly he's the only potential LI I'd have any interest in hooking my Inquisitor up with. If I hated him or hated all of you, I wouldn't care enough to point out the evidence against Solas-as-romance.
That said, to brighten everyone's hopes, one of the devs said the Inquisitor could be anywhere from mid-20s to mid-40s. So Solas has some hope still, as long as he doesn't see the Inquisitor as a child. If the Inquisitor can be mid-40s, then it makes sense that at least one or two LIs would also be in their 40s (or 50s!). And I repeat I'd totally be okay with that (pleased even--and more so if Solas were an option).
Also, edited to add: Ispan, you don't have to agree with me, but you also don't have to be rude about disagreeing. As long as I've been in this thread I'd think that all of you would comprehend I do not have hateful/mean intentions.
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I understand what your saying but all I got to say is this stop being a Debbie downer...I think we are old enough to know that it's a 50/50 chance of Solas being an LI or not. I think most of us have prepared ourselves for the heartbreak but I don't see anything wrong with having a little hope and faith also with excitement to think that there is a chance for him to be an LI because there is a chance. *shrug*
I think you are over- reacting and over-analyzing too much on this...you need to calm down a bit. 
My problem isn't that people are having fun, it's that a few are gonna end up depressed if it turns out he's not a romance option. Honestly he's the only potential LI I'd have any interest in hooking my Inquisitor up with. If I hated him or hated all of you, I wouldn't care enough to point out the evidence against Solas-as-romance.
That said, to brighten everyone's hopes, one of the devs said the Inquisitor could be anywhere from mid-20s to mid-40s. So Solas has some hope still, as long as he doesn't see the Inquisitor as a child. If the Inquisitor can be mid-40s, then it makes sense that at least one or two LIs would also be in their 40s (or 50s!). And I repeat I'd totally be okay with that (pleased even--and more so if Solas were an option).
Also, edited to add: Ispan, you don't have to agree with me, but you also don't have to be rude about disagreeing. As long as I've been in this thread I'd think that all of you would comprehend I do not have hateful/mean intentions.
I apologize for choosing the rude path. What I wanted to say was:
No one needs to be protected from disappointment. A decent number of your posts have told us that there's almost no chance of Solas being an LI and that we shouldn't get our hopes up, so by now most people have read your sentiment and have already chosen to think and feel the way they do. You have made quite a few great points and brought interesting speculation to the topic in the past, but I probably won't get to enjoy those aspects anymore because I've stopped reading posts that begin with the "This is why you shouldn't think that Solas will be an LI" thing.
Modifié par Ispanius, 04 juillet 2014 - 07:01 .
I understand what your saying but all I got to say is this stop being a Debbie downer...I think we are old enough to know that it's a 50/50 chance of Solas being an LI or not. I think most of us have prepared ourselves for the heartbreak but I don't see anything wrong with having a little hope and faith also with excitement to think that there is a chance for him to be an LI. *shrug*
I think you are over- reacting and over-analyzing too much on this...you need to calm down a bit.
Overreacting? I'm actually not upset at all. It seems to be the others who are upset, by me pointing out that there's a lot of potential--POTENTIAL--evidence against Solas being an LI.
I'm finding, romance-wise, I increasingly just don't care that much in regard to DA:I. Maybe it's because I'm older. Maybe it's because I'm grumpier. Maybe it's because the game's not out yet and I don't know enough to keep me hyped about a romance that is currently hypothetical (I tend to get very hyped and gushy about romances after playing/reading about them). It might even be because I don't find any of the confirmed romances to my liking at present (really we have only the bare bones of info, so traits I think I'll dislike I might find less offputting in the actual game). It could even be because of how ME3 ended, and I don't feel like investing that much interest in the romantic aspect of the story in case it ends horribly. Could be a combination of several of these things.
I enjoy playing the romance arcs, but they are only pixels, not real people. I'm going to enjoy the game even if my character is completely loveless. If my character has a romance available that I enjoy, well, that's the icing on the cake. But cake is still tasty without icing.
Now, if you want evidence in favor of Solas being a romance, I can give a little tiny bit of that... just as I said his supposed age might not be his ACTUAL age because if he's ancient (or if he's somehow Felassan--which I doubt but Weekes IS his writer) the devs would not tell us so before we found out in-game (or the info got leaked).
So, here are the things that keep me HOPING Solas is available romantically (while I bear in mind there's plenty of evidence against it, but even if cake's good without icing I still want icing--Solas without romance is like red velvet cake without buttercream frosting on top):
Yeah that's pretty much all I've got. Anyone else wants to add to the list, feel free.
Edited to add: It also seems to me that whether or not he's a romance, Solas is apparently going to be plot-important. He may be the one who leads us to Arlathan, perhaps. His plot-importance may make it more likely to be a romantic interest, but it also may make it less likely... remember that Varric was always around in DA2 but not romantically available.
I still think Solas has an alright chance of being an LI. Personally, with race gating, I think there will be 4 LIs of each gender. It would be extremely difficult to make the 2/2/2 stretch for race gating.
Confirmed male options are;
Cullen
Dorian
Suspected;
Iron Bull
Remaining;
Solas
Varric
Blackwall
Cole
So, really, I think Solas's real competition is Varric, Blackwall and Cole. We know Cole is extremely unlikely based on David Gaider's reaction. Blackwall is even older than Solas and he's a warden that's probably near his calling. Varric has his thing with Bianca, which they've talked about in interviews (that he may not be ready to let go, or something like that) and it's been hinted Bianca's story might not be done, as if she might still appear at some point. So, out of the remaining males, Solas actually has no more, or even less, argument against him being an LI.
I still think Solas has an alright chance of being an LI. Personally, with race gating, I think there will be 4 LIs of each gender. It would be extremely difficult to make the 2/2/2 stretch for race gating.
Confirmed male options are;
Cullen
Dorian
Suspected;
Iron Bull
Remaining;
Solas
Varric
Blackwall
Cole
So, really, I think Solas's real competition is Varric, Blackwall and Cole. We know Cole is extremely unlikely based on David Gaider's reaction. Blackwall is even older than Solas and he's a warden that's probably near his calling. Varric has his thing with Bianca, which they've talked about in interviews (that he may not be ready to let go, or something like that) and it's been hinted Bianca's story might not be done, as if she might still appear at some point. So, out of the remaining males, Solas actually has no more, or even less, argument against him being an LI.
I like Blackwall well enough but if it's going to be one of the four remaining options I hope for either Varric or Solas, if only to increase the number of non-human LIs.
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