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[scintilla]

It might be the reason he noticed her (how else would he ever have known you), but I don't think it's the reason he falls in love with her. Or the reason he grows to deeply respect a non female elf Inquisitor. There did seem to be an underlying element of "you're on a different level than others" but it seemed more of a mental thing to me.

 

I mean story wise, yes. He wouldn't have cared at all about someone without the anchor. The implication that she's beneath him without it - that she has to be changed to be good enough is what I don't like.

 

@Solas: He's incredibly tragic. I just. Wish he'd let other people help rather than trying to fix things again and potentially breaking things badly again. I sincerely hope he doesn't end up carrying around even more guilt and misery than he already does. It feels like he hasn't actually learned from that time when he thought he knew everything, in some ways.

[Birdy]

It might be the reason he noticed her (how else would he ever have known you), but I don't think it's the reason he falls in love with her. Or the reason he grows to deeply respect a non female elf Inquisitor. There did seem to be an underlying element of "you're on a different level than others" but it seemed more of a mental thing to me.

 

Edit: On that note, I'm now craving some fic where Lavellan never becomes the Inquisitor and still meets Solas and falls in love with him. 

I saw a prompt for that.  :'( Sadly no fill.

And I dodn't think he would have noticed her. The little he interacted with the Dalish, he really seemed to dislkie them.

[Abelas]

"You're real, and it means everyone could be real."

 

[snip]

 

That's precisely how I took it as well. 

 

Not as a literal real vs unreal. But as how he sees this whole present as something that’s not supposed to be. He distances himself from it, he falters through it: a lot of times he’s not even sure of what he believes.

 

But she’s real. She’s what was supposed to happen. How it was supposed to go. And it means this whole world could change. It means he got it wrong. It means everyone could be real.

 

And yet… it can’t. Can it?

[Shechinah]

That's what I took it to mean and that's why I think he had to distance himself towards the end because he started to doubt and maybe even re-consider his plans.  

[RynJ]

That's precisely how I took it as well. 

 

Not as a literal real vs unreal. But as how he sees this whole present as something that’s not supposed to be. He distances himself from it, he falters through it: a lot of times he’s not even sure of what he believes.

 

But she’s real. She’s what was supposed to happen. How it was supposed to go. And it means this whole world could change. It means he got it wrong. It means everyone could be real.

 

And yet… it can’t. Can it?

 

And this is why the idea of resolving the Solas issue in the next game with a different protagonist bothers me. I feel like it has to be the Inquisitor that gets him to back down, if we even can or if we're forced to kill him. 

 

I just don't imagine that Solas's plans will be allowed to happen in the game. It's potentially world-breaking.

 

@scintilla: I didn't get the impression that he thought she needed the mark to be on his level or that he'd only care for someone with it at all. I could be wrong, though. Just my personal feelings on the matter.

 

Edit: Also, does anybody get the impression that whatever Solas plans to do, he doesn't think he'll survive to see or enjoy the effects? 

[Tielis]

"You're real, and it means everyone could be real."

 

[the rest of the post]

 

...because he won't let it.  He doesn't think he's strong enough to handle it, so he just backs away from it, refusing to deal with it.

 

I hope we can bring him to witness truth and see it as a strength with new hope in the future.    Otherwise, it's going to devour him in the end.

[InkQuest]

Just giving my two cents on how Solas feels/what his plans are.

When first meeting Abelas, I took the option to ask Solas if he could say anything to sway him. His response was something to the effect of "What can I say? He's stuck in the past." (paraphrasing, of course.) This gives me the impression that Solas doesn't want to go back, but wants things to be like before but... better this time around. As I said before, I never really got the impression he hates the Dalish; he is just hurt and upset that whatever he did got them in such an unfortunate, scattered situation where they remember only fragments - and the wrong fragments, at that. He blames himself for it because whatever it was he did put them on this road.

As for what his plans in the future might be, I don't think he has any intention of bringing the other Elven gods back. At the end, he says "The People need me." I think if that's what he wanted - to bring the other gods into it - he'd probably say "The People need us."

This is another tell, imo, that he cares for the modern elves because he says "The People" as opposed to "My People". Whatever he is gonna do it's going effect them all - Ancient and modern alike.

Sorry this might not be super eloquent, I'm at work atm and can't type out a super well thought out post.

[scintilla]

And this is why the idea of resolving the Solas issue in the next game with a different protagonist bothers me. I feel like it has to be the Inquisitor that gets him to back down, if we even can or if we're forced to kill him. 

 

I just don't imagine that Solas's plans will be allowed to happen in the game. It's potentially world-breaking.

 

@scintilla: I didn't get the impression that he thought she needed the mark to be on his level or that he'd only care for someone with it at all. I could be wrong, though. Just my personal feelings on the matter.

 

Agreed about resolving the issue with the Inquisitor. I feel like... he was the Inquisitor's companion, it just wouldn't feel right solving the issue with another protagonist. Unless he does go all out and become the Big Bad, I guess.

 

I didn't get that impression either. Someone else brought up the idea and I've been trying to put words to why it makes me uncomfortable in a way that makes sense to other people for... it feels like awhile now.

[Jaderail]

Looking back now, it seems so strange a concept to me that I was so certain about a Cullen-mance. I was 100% certain Cullen would be my romance option first time around.

 

I play for about an hour as a human and decide to rerole as an elf mage because I felt elves seemed a bit more interesting and I figured Cullen's still interested in elves anyway. Besides I could not get a decent looking human, it wasn't happening. 

 

Anyway, fast forward to romance decisions and I find myself extremely conflicted on Cullen and Solas. It literally took me two days of thought to convince myself to go Solas since I went elf, and said "I'll just rerole human for Cullen."

 

Finished the game, finished my romance with Solas and now I can't see it any other way. It's going to take me a long time to "recover" from Solas, I can't bring myself to even create a new character to romance Cullen, even though Cullen was the original reason I bought the game. 

 

What a brilliantly written character.

[Shechinah]

I'm almost positive that there'll be some sort of dlc involving him and Quizzy (unromanced or not) maybe even similar to Witch Hunt even if it will not resolve whatever he is planning. There's some unfinished business especially emotionally.

[Birdy]

Looking back now, it seems so strange a concept to me that I was so certain about a Cullen-mance. I was 100% certain Cullen would be my romance option first time around.

 

I play for about an hour as a human and decide to rerole as an elf mage because I felt elves seemed a bit more interesting and I figured Cullen's still interested in elves anyway. Besides I could not get a decent looking human, it wasn't happening. 

 

Anyway, fast forward to romance decisions and I find myself extremely conflicted on Cullen and Solas. It literally took me two days of thought to convince myself to go Solas since I went elf, and said "I'll just rerole human for Cullen."

 

Finished the game, finished my romance with Solas and now I can't see it any other way. It's going to take me a long time to "recover" from Solas, I can't bring myself to even create a new character to romance Cullen, even though Cullen was the original reason I bought the game. 

 

What a brilliantly written character.

[Wheels]

That's precisely how I took it as well. 

 

Not as a literal real vs unreal. But as how he sees this whole present as something that’s not supposed to be. He distances himself from it, he falters through it: a lot of times he’s not even sure of what he believes.

 

But she’s real. She’s what was supposed to happen. How it was supposed to go. And it means this whole world could change. It means he got it wrong. It means everyone could be real.

 

And yet… it can’t. Can it?

 

So it is a little like the Alexius Quest for him. "Transported" into a hell future, but unlike Dorian and Quizzy, he can't just go back.

Just imagine that! 

[Fenlathe]

Okay I have a question, might be spoilery but I don't know. 

 

Okay I haven't romanced Solas, (and I don't really have any plans to) but I keep seeing people call him a wolf, or relate him to wolves. And I'm mighty confused as to why that is? Does he have a connection to Fen'Harel? I'm so lost. You can spoil me since I'm not planning on getting around to it myself. 

 

Edit: uh okay my spoiler tag didnt work that time hm wonder why

[Sarquindi]

And this is why the idea of resolving the Solas issue in the next game with a different protagonist bothers me. I feel like it has to be the Inquisitor that gets him to back down, if we even can or if we're forced to kill him. 

 

I just don't imagine that Solas's plans will be allowed to happen in the game. It's potentially world-breaking.

 

@scintilla: I didn't get the impression that he thought she needed the mark to be on his level or that he'd only care for someone with it at all. I could be wrong, though. Just my personal feelings on the matter.

 

Edit: Also, does anybody get the impression that whatever Solas plans to do, he doesn't think he'll survive to see or enjoy the effects? 

This is also why I feel like it has to be in an expansion.  Although, I believe they have already mentioned that there will be no expansion.  I would be pretty upset if they carry his story into the next game with a different protagonist.  Leaving the romance as it was just makes the ending feel.... incomplete.   I can't see them finishing it in DLC, either.  There are just too many questions to answer in a piece of DLC that may only last a couple hours.  I have a nasty feeling that they will just leave the romance as it is, with Levallan wondering if Solas will ever come back and explain things to her.  Hoping.  

[scintilla]

 

Okay I have a question, might be spoilery but I don't know. 

 

Okay I haven't romanced Solas, (and I don't really have any plans to) but I keep seeing people call him a wolf, or relate him to wolves. And I'm mighty confused as to why that is? Does he have a connection to Fen'Harel? I'm so lost. You can spoil me since I'm not planning on getting around to it myself. 

 

Edit: uh okay my spoiler tag didnt work that time hm wonder why

 

Spoiler

He is Fen'Harel.

[Birdy]

Okay I have a question, might be spoilery but I don't know. 

 

Okay I haven't romanced Solas, (and I don't really have any plans to) but I keep seeing people call him a wolf, or relate him to wolves. And I'm mighty confused as to why that is? Does he have a connection to Fen'Harel? I'm so lost. You can spoil me since I'm not planning on getting around to it myself. 

 

Edit: uh okay my spoiler tag didnt work that time hm wonder why

Are you sure? It's end game spoilers?  Really better off going to the end and finding out.

[arelenriel]

Re Flemeth:

Spoiler

In DAO it is clearly stated the Flemeth herself possesses others bodies .. she will give birth to a daughter (some argue that Morrigan was fathered by Marric or Loghain during their encounter with her during "Stolen Throne") and then raise and train that daughter as a mage. When the daughter is finished training Flemeth will perform a ritual in which she possesses their body. I do not think this has been retconned by the Devs. Though given the new knowledge from DAI - it is Mythal-possessing Flemeth-possessing Flemeth's daughters... weirdly enough. The only two daughters to have escaped this ritual are Yavana and Morrigan. Morrigan's escape from this may ultimately be why Mythal gives herself/her power to Solas in the epilogue. Though this would lead to question that if Morrigan drinks from the Well of Sorrows if Flemythal could possess her again.

[Fenlathe]

 

 

 

Spoiler

He is Fen'Harel.

 

WELL NOW I HAVE TO PLAY FOR MYSELF.

 

Does it only come up if you Romance him? Or did I just miss opportunities to talk to him. 

[Ajna]

Just giving my two cents on how Solas feels/what his plans are.

When first meeting Abelas, I took the option to ask Solas if he could say anything to sway him. His response was something to the effect of "What can I say? He's stuck in the past." (paraphrasing, of course.) This gives me the impression that Solas doesn't want to go back, but wants things to be like before but... better this time around. As I said before, I never really got the impression he hates the Dalish; he is just hurt and upset that whatever he did got them in such an unfortunate, scattered situation where they remember only fragments - and the wrong fragments, at that. He blames himself for it because whatever it was he did put them on this road.

As for what his plans in the future might be, I don't think he has any intention of bringing the other Elven gods back. At the end, he says "The People need me." I think if that's what he wanted - to bring the other gods into it - he'd probably say "The People need us."

This is another tell, imo, that he cares for the modern elves because he says "The People" as opposed to "My People". Whatever he is gonna do it's going effect them all - Ancient and modern alike.

Sorry this might not be super eloquent, I'm at work atm and can't type out a super well thought out post.

This.  Also how many times were you able to say to relevant people (Flemythal, Abelas etc) "The Elves needed you"?  I want to believe that this went in...but I'm a fluffy idealist, so, ya know..

[RynJ]

WELL NOW I HAVE TO PLAY FOR MYSELF.

 

Does it only come up if you Romance him? Or did I just miss opportunities to talk to him. 

 

Nope, it's for everyone. It's the big finale spoiler after the credits.

[scintilla]

WELL NOW I HAVE TO PLAY FOR MYSELF.

 

Does it only come up if you Romance him? Or did I just miss opportunities to talk to him. 

 

Watch after the credits have finished for the reveal.

[arelenriel]

WELL NOW I HAVE TO PLAY FOR MYSELF.

 

Does it only come up if you Romance him? Or did I just miss opportunities to talk to him. 

He never tells you directly- it is in the epilogue -- in a scene with Flemeth who is also not what she seems

[Birdy]

Re Flemeth:

Spoiler

In DAO it is clearly stated the Flemeth herself possesses others bodies .. she will give birth to a daughter (some argue that Morrigan was fathered by Marric or Loghain during their encounter with her during "Stolen Throne") and then raise and train that daughter as a mage. When the daughter is finished training Flemeth will perform a ritual in which she possesses their body. I do not think this has been retconned by the Devs. Though given the new knowledge from DAI - it is Mythal-possessing Flemeth-possessing Flemeth's daughters... weirdly enough. The only two daughters to have escaped this ritual are Yavana and Morrigan. Morrigan's escape from this may ultimately be why Mythal gives herself/her power to Solas in the epilogue. Though this would lead to question that if Morrigan drinks from the Well of Sorrows if Flemythal could possess her again.

I've never once seen it stated "She will give birth" anywhere, and Wiki really doesn't count.  It was stated quite clearly by Flemeth in DAI that she needed them to freely give their bodies, that was something Morrigan got wrong.  And I personally think Solas stole her power  "I should be the one punished. But the people need me"  

[Shechinah]

(to Sarquindi) I can't seem them doing that unless something happened they didn't anticipate that prevented them from doing so.

 

Even if whatever Solas is doing is left for another protagonist to solve, there's no harm in a dlc of short, medium or long length in which it can be established how an Inquisitor considers Solas to help keep characterization consistent if they appear in the next game.

 

It is something that cannot really be established through the keep as the way things are currently, they only suspect something at best but have no real idea of the scope of things so a dlc in which they gain clues and maybe even a revelation would only benefit. 

[Hedinve]

If you ask Cole to focus on Levellan he says she is bright, not just the anchor but behind it too. I'm not sure if that means her as she is or if she is special in any way. Command in Crestwood also thinks she is something different, but you can explain that as the anchor and she accepts that.