Can you take a proper screenshot on xbox 360? Or, is everyone taking screenshots of their Lavallen on a PC? I have pictures of my Lavallen that I would like to share, but they are cruddy cell phone on an old tv quality.
Mine are screenshots from the PC. I don't know if the XBox 360 has an in-built screenshot function, though.
Can you take a proper screenshot on xbox 360? Or, is everyone taking screenshots of their Lavallen on a PC? I have pictures of my Lavallen that I would like to share, but they are cruddy cell phone on an old tv quality.
360 and PS3 don't have screenshot functions; I don't think the One does either, actually, but it does let you record video. I believe most people on the 360/PS3 have been taking pictures of their screens, which... might be difficult if you're trying to capture a specific moment instead of just a generic face.
I went back and made a save where I drank from the well, and Solas was furious with me afterwards. I knew he disapproved of it, but he said that he begged me not to drink from the well. I honestly do not remember him ever begging me not to. When I asked the group, he even said that someone needs to take the power from the well. But he even clearly stated that he didn't trust Morrigan with that power. Am I missing some dialog? Did he actually beg anyone else?
This is a great point,
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Solas never begged me to not drink from the Well, in fact, I thought drinking from the Well would end in approval since he didn't trust Morrigan, and I asked him him and he said no. So, who else could do it?
So my inquisitor drank from the Well and he was mad, but he got over it quickly because we agreed on pretty much on everything else. Except the wardens, he didn't approve of that.
But yeah, when he said he begged for her not to drink from the Well I was like, "what?" Because he didn't protest.
About Inquisitor drinking from the Well and Solas possibly absorbing Mythal in the post-credits scene:
I sometimes see people enjoying the idea that Lavellan will now be bound to Solas' will or be in some kind of servitude/slavery to him.
I'm not saying you can't enjoy an idea of course and there's certainly no harm in doing so. I'd just like to highlight though that this situation is the complete opposite of anything Solas would want. He places such a strong value on freedom and dislikes all kinds of slavery/servitude - he hates the Qun since it does not allow freethought, he hates the binding of spirits, he hates the slavery of elves in Tevinter, he hates that the Inquisitor drinks from the Well as it means they're now Mythal's creature, etc. The situation is not one that he would like or enjoy and I can see it causing him a lot of pain.
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I find the situation very interesting because Lavellan drank from the well and was bound to Mythal. My Lavellan didn't do it to be bound to Solas but instead she was trying to do the right thing in that situation and she did it even though Solas didn't want that. So now that she is bound to Solas is a result of what choices they both made. It's like destiny. Besides I think he is going to suffer a lot no matter what you did. I'm just hoping she can bring him some happiness to his life after all his suffering.
I'm not sure which one is better to drink from the well or not to drink because I want my Lavellan to be free but on the other hand somebody has to drink from the well and if I'm not drinking then Morrigan will drink from it and then she is bound to Solas. So I just feel that it's better to drink from the well and be bound to Solas so that Morrigan can be free.
Ok so I just finished the game, is it just me or is Solas reply to the "I´m sorry" option regarding the orb different if he´s romanced? Or maybe I´m just imagining things
Solas never begged me to not drink from the Well, in fact, I thought drinking from the Well would end in approval since he didn't trust Morrigan, and I asked him him and he said no. So, who else could do it?
So my inquisitor drank from the Well and he was mad, but he got over it quickly because we agreed on pretty much on everything else. Except the wardens, he didn't approve of that.
But yeah, when he said he begged for her not to drink from the Well I was like, "what?" Because he didn't protest.
Post in this thread about it, please (and maybe click "me too" on the EA Answers thing)! o: I'm trying to get someone from BioWare to notice and maybe let us know what happened here, because according to what I've learned he says he "warned" a non-romanced Inquisitor and "begged" a romanced Inquisitor. To me that makes it sound like there should have been two separate conversations at the Well with Solas depending on whether or not he was in a relationship with the Inquisitor, but unless a BioWare employee tells us what happened there, there's no way to know for sure.
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I find the situation very interesting because Lavellan drank from the well and was bound to Mythal. My Lavellan didn't do it to be bound to Solas but instead she was trying to do the right thing in that situation and she did it even though Solas didn't want that. So now that she is bound to Solas is a result of what choices they both made. It's like destiny. Besides I think he is going to suffer a lot no matter what you did. I'm just hoping she can bring him some happiness to his life after all his suffering.
I'm not sure which one is better to drink from the well or not to drink because I want my Lavellan to be free but on the other hand somebody has to drink from the well and if I'm not drinking then Morrigan will drink from it and then she is bound to Solas. So I just feel that it's better to drink from the well and be bound to Solas so that Morrigan can be free.
I would say, if you want any hope of an actual relationship continuing, do not drink from the Well.
Here's why:
If you drink from the Well, you become a slave to Mythal's will. We know what happened with that, yes? So if you drank from the Well, you have no choice but to do what Mythal tells you. You just lost your ability to consent to anything relationship-wise.
Considering how he reacts in the Fade scene, I think Solas would be highly uncomfortable with that idea, as well as hating having someone as his slave. Remember his "Especially not here" line? Yeah, because it's a bad idea to send someone to sleep or invade their dreams and then start sexing them up or smooching on them, because you'd act differently in a dream (presumably) than you would in reality--because you can't consent. (Note, if they consented to such beforehand, that's a little different. But you'd have to actually, you know, PLAN to meet in the Fade for sexytimes/smooches...)
If Lavellan has to do whatever he wants, that also compromises her ability to consent. I think Solas would be aware of this, and he would not use it... the relationship would be truly over, because what kind of relationship is it when you are completely incapable of being your own person in the relationship, or doing anything other than what the other person wants? We're not talking kinky dominant/submissive relationships here, we're talking literal incapacity to do anything other than what Solas wants you to do. I like to think Solas would not take advantage, but the only way to not take advantage would simply be to not try to pick back up any sort of relationship. Otherwise, how can you be sure? Lavellan might not even know that she was responding to a compulsion. And, let's face it, a relationship in which you can't do anything your partner wouldn't approve of, might be kind of boring over time. I think it would make Solas sad... Lavellan wouldn't be the person he had loved, she'd be whatever he wanted her to be. No more being surprised or impressed by her.
Edited to add: And that's even just if you ever meet again. Which you may not, because Solas does not want to get the Inquisitor tangled up in his personal quest. His will would, in that case, be: STAY AWAY.
Post in this thread about it, please (and maybe click "me too" on the EA Answers thing)! o: I'm trying to get someone from BioWare to notice and maybe let us know what happened here, because according to what I've learned he says he "warned" a non-romanced Inquisitor and "begged" a romance Inquisitor. To me that makes it sound like there should have been two separate conversations at the Well with Solas depending on whether or not he was in a relationship with the Inquisitor, but unless a BioWare employee tells us what happened there, there's no way to know for sure.
I would say, if you want any hope of an actual relationship continuing, do not drink from the Well.
Here's why:
If you drink from the Well, you become a slave to Mythal's will. We know what happened with that, yes? So if you drank from the Well, you have no choice but to do what Mythal tells you. You just lost your ability to consent to anything relationship-wise.
Considering how he reacts in the Fade scene, I think Solas would be highly uncomfortable with that idea, as well as hating having someone as his slave. Remember his "Especially not here" line? Yeah, because it's a bad idea to send someone to sleep or invade their dreams and then start sexing them up or smooching on them, because you'd act differently in a dream (presumably) than you would in reality--because you can't consent. (Note, if they consented to such beforehand, that's a little different. But you'd have to actually, you know, PLAN to meet in the Fade for sexytimes/smooches...)
If Lavellan has to do whatever he wants, that also compromises her ability to consent. I think Solas would be aware of this, and he would not use it... the relationship would be truly over, because what kind of relationship is it when you are completely incapable of being your own person in the relationship, or doing anything other than what the other person wants? We're not talking kinky dominant/submissive relationships here, we're talking literal incapacity to do anything other than what Solas wants you to do. I like to think Solas would not take advantage, but the only way to not take advantage would simply be to not try to pick back up any sort of relationship. Otherwise, how can you be sure? Lavellan might not even know that she was responding to a compulsion. And, let's face it, a relationship in which you can't do anything your partner wouldn't approve of, might be kind of boring over time. I think it would make Solas sad... Lavellan wouldn't be the person he had loved, she'd be whatever he wanted her to be. No more being surprised or impressed by her.
Edited to add: And that's even just if you ever meet again. Which you may not, because Solas does not want to get the Inquisitor tangled up in his personal quest. His will would, in that case, be: STAY AWAY.
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The line is actually "not even here," which I felt was more like saying "if it would be OK anywhere it would be here in the Fade." Solas doesn't seem to see a huge difference between the Fade and the physical world, so I don't think that particular situation would raise questions of consent in his mind.
I agree with the rest - there's pretty much no chance he's going to get with Lavellan while there's that Mythal thing going on. But...I wonder if that wouldn't have more to do with his state than hers? I imagine regardless of what Lavellan does with the well, he's not going to want to be with her when he's got the mother-of-vengeance goddess in his head. Even if he's not possessed by her, I imagine her will exerts some influence over his actions. Lavellan's inability to consent is the nail in the already-built coffin.
Now that would be a beautiful end! Just imagine them cuddling together in eternal sleep...
Eternal spooning!
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I've been rummaging through different cues and info, and I think this is what Fen'harel is.
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We know from Solas that spirits embody a purpose, and that purpose denied is what turns them into demons. We also know that spirits of Pride are corrupted spirits of Wisdom.
Analyzing how Flemeth carries the ancient being/spirit of Mythal within her, I think it's interesting to consider that the elven "gods" were immortal mages, very attuned to the Fade, and joined with a certain spirit. For example, Mythal is the "goddess of justice"(and assuming that the theory is correct, that she was an elvhen joined with a spirit of justice), now, betrayed, she has become vengeful/a spirit of vengeance. (I also think this corruption can be undone and the spirit returned to its original purpose)
My theory is that Solas is Solas(probably had a different name in the past, since Solas means pride, he probably took it to remind himself of his past mistake), an ancient immortal elf who traveled the Fade, encountered ancient Fen'harel, and absorbed his essence voluntarily, thus carrying withing him a spirit of Wisdom. This is probably why he is so fascinated in considering Lavellan is probably herself a "rare and marvelous" spirit of wisdom.
Something happened, they got betrayed, he made a decision, now the whole world suffers the consequences. He can't help but go fix it. But I think our influence on him will affect how exactly he goes about this.
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I think the biggest hints, beautifully and subtly done, are on Solas' tarot cards. On the romanced tarot card, we see the spirit of Fen'harel beside him, white and uncorrupted, whereas in his other card, Fen'harel is a corrupted pride demon(multiple eyes and all).
I've been rummaging through different cues and info, and I think this is what Fen'harel is.
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We know from Solas that spirits embody a purpose, and that purpose denied is what turns them into demons. We also know that spirits of Pride are corrupted spirits of Wisdom.
Analyzing how Flemeth carries the ancient being/spirit of Mythal within her, I think it's interesting to consider that the elven "gods" were immortal mages, very attuned to the Fade, and joined with a certain spirit. For example, Mythal is the "goddess of justice"(and assuming that the theory is correct, that she was an elvhen joined with a spirit of justice), now, betrayed, she has become vengeful/a spirit of vengeance. (I also think this corruption can be undone and the spirit returned to its original purpose)
My theory is that Solas is Solas(probably had a different name in the past, since Solas means pride, he probably took it to remind himself of his past mistake), an ancient immortal elf who traveled the Fade, encountered ancient Fen'harel, and absorbed his essence voluntarily, thus carrying withing him a spirit of Wisdom. This is probably why he is so fascinated in considering Lavellan is probably herself a "rare and marvelous" spirit of wisdom.
Something happened, they got betrayed, he made a decision, now the whole world suffers the consequences. He can't help but go fix it. But I think our influence on him will affect how exactly he goes about this.
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I think the biggest hints, beautifully and subtly done, are on Solas' tarot cards. On the romanced tarot card, we see the spirit of Fen'harel beside him, white and uncorrupted, whereas in his other card, Fen'harel is a corrupted pride demon(multiple eyes and all).
Yeah, I keep going back to the cards and thinking that they MUST mean something... but then I remember that The Hierophant is romance only, how can it make that much of a difference?
The image on The Hierophant does make me feel warm and fuzzy and at ease though...
The line is actually "not even here," which I felt was more like saying "if it would be OK anywhere it would be here in the Fade." Solas doesn't seem to see a huge difference between the Fade and the physical world, so I don't think that particular situation would raise questions of consent in his mind.
I agree with the rest - there's pretty much no chance he's going to get with Lavellan while there's that Mythal thing going on. But...I wonder if that wouldn't have more to do with his state than hers? I imagine regardless of what Lavellan does with the well, he's not going to want to be with her when he's got the mother-of-vengeance goddess in his head. Even if he's not possessed by her, I imagine her will exerts some influence over his actions. Lavellan's inability to consent is the nail in the already-built coffin.
Unless there's some way to separate them, the best we can probably hope for out of an encounter between Solas and Lavellan is that she gets her answers. I very much doubt there will be anything more to the relationship, given Solas's current state. They'd have to devote a lot of story, probably too much for a DLC, to finding out and correcting whatever it is he's done.
I would say, if you want any hope of an actual relationship continuing, do not drink from the Well.
Here's why:
If you drink from the Well, you become a slave to Mythal's will. We know what happened with that, yes? So if you drank from the Well, you have no choice but to do what Mythal tells you. You just lost your ability to consent to anything relationship-wise.
Considering how he reacts in the Fade scene, I think Solas would be highly uncomfortable with that idea, as well as hating having someone as his slave. Remember his "Especially not here" line? Yeah, because it's a bad idea to send someone to sleep or invade their dreams and then start sexing them up or smooching on them, because you'd act differently in a dream (presumably) than you would in reality--because you can't consent. (Note, if they consented to such beforehand, that's a little different. But you'd have to actually, you know, PLAN to meet in the Fade for sexytimes/smooches...)
If Lavellan has to do whatever he wants, that also compromises her ability to consent. I think Solas would be aware of this, and he would not use it... the relationship would be truly over, because what kind of relationship is it when you are completely incapable of being your own person in the relationship, or doing anything other than what the other person wants? We're not talking kinky dominant/submissive relationships here, we're talking literal incapacity to do anything other than what Solas wants you to do. I like to think Solas would not take advantage, but the only way to not take advantage would simply be to not try to pick back up any sort of relationship. Otherwise, how can you be sure? Lavellan might not even know that she was responding to a compulsion. And, let's face it, a relationship in which you can't do anything your partner wouldn't approve of, might be kind of boring over time. I think it would make Solas sad... Lavellan wouldn't be the person he had loved, she'd be whatever he wanted her to be. No more being surprised or impressed by her.
Edited to add: And that's even just if you ever meet again. Which you may not, because Solas does not want to get the Inquisitor tangled up in his personal quest. His will would, in that case, be: STAY AWAY.
Yeah but,
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Lavellan doesn't know anything about the Solas' identity when she decided to drink from the well. Also, I'm sure Solas has the ability to release her from the slave binding should he choose to. He was mad about it at first, but if you keep talking, he stops being mad depending on dialogue options. I think it's more interesting for me to see what Solas plans to do with Lavellan if she drank from the well. Also Lavellan is very strong-willed and now has some of the power of the Dread Wolf (the mark). I think that complicates matter and it's uncertain how much control he really has over her.
About Inquisitor drinking from the Well and Solas possibly absorbing Mythal in the post-credits scene:
I sometimes see people enjoying the idea that Lavellan will now be bound to Solas' will or be in some kind of servitude/slavery to him.
I'm not saying you can't enjoy an idea of course and there's certainly no harm in doing so. I'd just like to highlight though that this situation is the complete opposite of anything Solas would want. He places such a strong value on freedom and dislikes all kinds of slavery/servitude - he hates the Qun since it does not allow freethought, he hates the binding of spirits, he hates the slavery of elves in Tevinter, he hates that the Inquisitor drinks from the Well as it means they're now Mythal's creature, etc. The situation is not one that he would like or enjoy and I can see it causing him a lot of pain.
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That's an excellent point.
On that note, maybe that's part of the reason why Solas seemingly kills and absorbs Asha'bellanar into his essence - perhaps it frees Lavellan from servitude if she or he drank from the well? Allowing him to liberate someone he loves and cares about, or a good friend who he trusts as a confidant. Just a thought.
Yeah, I keep going back to the cards and thinking that they MUST mean something... but then I remember that The Hierophant is romance only, how can it make that much of a difference?
The image on The Hierophant does make me feel warm and fuzzy and at ease though...
Unless there's someway to separate them, the best we can probably hope for out of an encounter between Solas and Lavellan is that she gets her answers. I very much doubt there will be anything more to the relationship, given Solas's current state. They'd have to devote a lot of story, probably too much for a DLC, to finding out and correcting whatever it is he's done.
I think there's a reason why he calls her "my heart". It might be more close to literal than we know, considering the mark is his "key".
Man, that sounds almost dirty. In any case, maybe he runs from her because he knows that she has the power to totally mess up his plans.