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Birdy

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It's either a bug or an oversight. Either way, the "begging" Solas claims he did doesn't happen, and it makes the anger he shows over your choice feel very out of place. I don't think they could really fix it now, though. :(

Why not?  That's what patches are for.  And slipping a little dialogue in there wouldn't be too difficult.



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Lol, I think there was one reviewer that says that the rules of making the right decisions in dragon age involves not touching, not drinking, and not eating.


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Which, in my opinion, sounds like we might see the inquisitor again, whether it's the whole next game or a cameo like Hawke, or just dlc, who knows!
 

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This.

 

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I do see him coming back willingly to ask for help. Being all logical : this is important and you should help. But not really acknowledging how shitty it was to leave without a word (and the break up for Lavellan). 

 

He could use the geas to get the help he needs from an Inquisitor he hates, or just mention it as leverage so inquisitor would agree to help ('I could force you to but I wont'. See, im a good guy). 

 

 

But i also feel he isnt a Big Bad type character and could be talked down his tree if the Inquisitor took the time. (What ever his plan actually turns out to be). and I hope Bioware doesnt turn him into one.

 

If you show him its not his place to intervene and he should let people self-determinate instead of acting like a god (even if he is one),  I could see him going back to sleep/Fade forever in a non-romanced playthrough or giving Lavellan a chance. 

 

I also like the general idea of helping him but that could be very elf-centric and misguided so it might not make the cut.

 

So I think there are other possible outcomes then gloom and doom. Until we see that DLC at least. 


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Why not?  That's what patches are for.  And slipping a little dialogue in there wouldn't be too difficult.

I edited my post, but as I said in the edit, it would be a super low priority fix, if anything. They have a lot more major things that need patching and fixing, and I don't think one or two missing lines of dialogue is something they'd prioritize. It seems like all the missing dialogue has done so far is cause some moments of confusion for people. Maybe if the dialogue provided major plot points or something, it'd be a higher priority, but it seems like all it probably is is Solas saying he doesn't think ANYONE should drink from the Well (because he doesn't think highly of Morrigan, and he also doesn't want the Inquisitor to use it).



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If they ever fix it I hope it goes something like this

 

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I edited my post, but as I said in the edit, it would be a super low priority fix, if anything. They have a lot more major things that need patching and fixing, and I don't think one or two missing lines of dialogue is something they'd prioritize. It seems like all the missing dialogue has done so far is cause some moments of confusion for people. Maybe if the dialogue provided major plot points or something, it'd be a higher priority, but it seems like all it probably is is Solas saying he doesn't think ANYONE should drink from the Well (because he doesn't think highly of Morrigan, and he also doesn't want the Inquisitor to use it).

 

No, he also said that what's for sure is that the power should be used.



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+Lurks in+ 

 

I'm just going to drop this here for any Solasmancers on the prowl for new Solasmancing fic. 

 

https://www.fanficti...t/s/10873768/1/

The Complication of Little Feet and Little Hands

 

By: Sythe 

A slip of the mind during their torrid affair made for even further complications to an already difficult parting between Inquisitor Nimue Lavellan and a certain elven apostate. Pregnancy Fic. Because I've always wanted to try my hand at one. Warning: mature themes. This story is not for the young.

Rated: Fiction M - English - Romance/Fantasy - [Solas, Lavellan] Cole - Words: 3,673 - Published: 07/12/2014 - id: 10873768

 

Oooh, I enjoyed reading that.  Thanks for sharing.



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No, he also said that what's for sure is that the power should be used.

Oh, forgot about that.

 

So he gets mad at the Inquisitor for using it. But the entire time we're at the Temple he's like, "Ew, Morrigan." and doesn't seem to think she'd be best to use it either (even though he gets an approval increase if you let her use it). However, he still thinks someone should use the Well. Just not himself (we all know why)... or the Inquisitor... or Morrigan.

 

WHO IS SUPPOSED TO USE IT THEN, SOLAS? Pls make up ur mind.


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Because they would be a padding of blankets and a rock.  Lol.  The Dalish are constantly moving around, they wouldn't have a fancy bed or throne.

Then I don't think they would have fancy drapes or windows, either :P

I've been reading you guys for some days, and I've really enjoyed all the thoughtful posts and opinions. I just saw the second scene in the romance, and I'm happy I know how the third one plays out, for I'm sure it would have left me very sad if I wasn't prepared.

I know a lot has been said already; just wanted to add how I love that, throughout the romance and in spite of the few content, you can see the different layers of Solas and how it influences the romance buildup. (From now on there will be spoilers, sorry I don't know how to put the spoiler tags on the tablet format) I romanced Cullen on my first paythrough, and it is a slow and progressive buildup up until the first kiss that is kind of the milestone when Cullen finally opens up and gives in. However with Solas you share that first kiss pretty early, very passionately, like something that floods out of a gate that bursts open but Solas needs to close hastily. Then it is this battle between "ancient Solas", who is passionate in his love and fierce in his hate (glimpses are also seen at the Orlesian ball and on his personal quest); and the controlled, cold and logical Solas with his mind fixed in mending his wrongs. I really like this feeling I'm having through the romance of reaching out to that blazing flame that Lavellan feels inside him, and sometimes being let in when Solas can't fight his feelings, and sometimes being shut out when he remembers the weight he has put over his shoulders. I agree with other comments I read, that should Solas let his feelings for Lavellan pour out entirely, he would forget his missions.

And now after my long random thoughts, back to lurking! :D
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I've come to realize. Solas has ruined fanfiction for me.   :unsure:  Anything that's not him in it, I don't want to read anymore.


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I thought the well scene was weird. He very adamantly says that Morrigan can't be trusted with it.. But he also says not to even ask him to drink it.

 

I don't know if there's still a point to spoiler quotes or not, but..

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Hey guys.

 

I've been thinking a bit about Solas and spirits and gods and mages.  I have something I'd like to ask or rather postulate. 

 

Now Solas tells us that the gods weren't really gods and in the end it all comes down to people.  So starting from that point of view let us assume that the gods were mages.  What if Uthenera and Somniari were intrinsically connected?  Remember Feynriel?  In order to help him grow in strength and control the dream himself, we had to help him grow but with a gentle hand.  It is very similar to how Solas treats Cole.  So what if Somniari are not walking the Fade, but simply projecting their spirit bodily into it.  A "good" Somniari would need to have a strong sense of self to not get lost in the mix.

 

So, Uthenera could then be the purposeful severing of ties to the physical form and existing as a spirit.  I really think that we are misunderstanding the Elvhen Sleep.  I don't think they woke back up in their bodies.  I think they existed as spirits and could reenter the physical world like Solas clearly has and as Cole has. 

 

There is a Codex from the Temple of Mythal that appears to be Abelas' journal and there is a line about "the children do not understand why the elders weep when they enter Uthenera".  (damn that's not it exactly, but it's close)  I wonder if something happened to the veil presumably after Fen'harel locked them all away. 

 

One last thing.  If Solas is indeed a spirit and I truly think he is.  Then he is a spirit of a man.  Not a spirit of wisdom or purpose, but the spirit of the man who entered Uthenera.  However, I do think he is more akin to a Pride demon now.  The more I think about it.  The more similarities leap out at me.  Maybe he was forced into this world against his will and he twisted.  Or maybe Corypheus woke him up and some of that anger at what the world had become transferred to Solas.

 

That does not mean that I think he is a lost cause.  He could change again.  After all he is not one-dimensional like a spirit.


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One more thing. 

 

I have no idea how to hide spoilers. 

 

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Does anyone else feel like Fen'harel and Falon'din are connected?  Especially after that Faded for Her quest.  Solas literally guided a spirit into the beyond like it was natural.  Falon'din was all about spirits and the fade.  Well guess who we know like that?  I don't know.  I mean not all of the gods have to be connected, but it gave me a moments pause.



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One more thing. 

 

I have no idea how to hide spoilers. 

 

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Does anyone else feel like Fen'harel and Falon'din are connected?  Especially after that Faded for Her quest.  Solas literally guided a spirit into the beyond like it was natural.  Falon'din was all about spirits and the fade.  Well guess who we know like that?  I don't know.  I mean not all of the gods have to be connected, but it gave me a moments pause.

Did he guide the spirit?  I had the feeling he was apologizing before the spirit died/disintegrated.



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One more thing. 

 

I have no idea how to hide spoilers. 

 

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Does anyone else feel like Fen'harel and Falon'din are connected?  Especially after that Faded for Her quest.  Solas literally guided a spirit into the beyond like it was natural.  Falon'din was all about spirits and the fade.  Well guess who we know like that?  I don't know.  I mean not all of the gods have to be connected, but it gave me a moments pause.

 

 

It's [ spoilers] whatever you want to say [ /spoilers]. Just don't put the space between the letter and the bracket.



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I've decided that my Lavellan fell for Solas is because she senses his power, even of it's without even realizing it. Men who are like Solas fairly ooze power, confidence, control, dominance. That is wildly attractive. Women are drawn to that, even if they don't want to admit it. I am, anyway. That's why I pretend my human quizzie finds herself weirdly intoxicated.

I've also been spending more time paying attention to Solas during my human completionist I'm working on now. You know if you take him during the In Hushed Whispers- his body isn't thrown into the room after "dying" when the two companions sacrifice themselves to give you and Dorian time. I've played it a couple ways and you always see both companion bodies thrown into the room, limp. Except Solas. I checked it because I thought it silly that they would so easily off a God, even if it wasn't a future that actually transpired.

My husband dragged me to BW3 to watch the Browns play and instead of watching the football I'm on my phone reading Solas theories.

I need help.
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I've decided that my Lavellan fell for Solas is because she senses his power, even of it's without even realizing it. Men who are like Solas fairly ooze power, confidence, control, dominance. That is wildly attractive. Women are drawn to that, even if they don't want to admit it. I am, anyway. That's why I pretend my human quizzie finds herself weirdly intoxicated.

I've also been spending more time paying attention to Solas during my human completionist I'm working on now. You know if you take him during the In Hushed Whispers- his body isn't thrown into the room after "dying" when the two companions sacrifice themselves to give you and Dorian time. I've played it a couple ways and you always see both companion bodies thrown into the room, limp. Except Solas. I checked it because I thought it silly that they would so easily off a God, even if it wasn't a future that actually transpired.

My husband dragged me to BW3 to watch the Browns play and instead of watching the football I'm on my phone reading Solas theories.

I need help.

Very nice. I was gonna bring him this playthrough.

I've been reading the Solas Recovery Wing instead of doing my second playthrough.
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I've decided that my Lavellan fell for Solas is because she senses his power, even of it's without even realizing it. Men who are like Solas fairly ooze power, confidence, control, dominance. That is wildly attractive. Women are drawn to that, even if they don't want to admit it. I am, anyway. That's why I pretend my human quizzie finds herself weirdly intoxicated.

I've also been spending more time paying attention to Solas during my human completionist I'm working on now. You know if you take him during the In Hushed Whispers- his body isn't thrown into the room after "dying" when the two companions sacrifice themselves to give you and Dorian time. I've played it a couple ways and you always see both companion bodies thrown into the room, limp. Except Solas. I checked it because I thought it silly that they would so easily off a God, even if it wasn't a future that actually transpired.

My husband dragged me to BW3 to watch the Browns play and instead of watching the football I'm on my phone reading Solas theories.

I need help.

 

I played with Varric and Iron Bull, and I only saw iron Bull's body get thrown in the room. Unless Varric was just too short and got obscured or something...



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Did he guide the spirit?  I had the feeling he was apologizing before the spirit died/disintegrated.

 

 

[spoilers]Yeah, I think he did.  He passed his hands in front of him like he was assisting the spirit to move on.  It was odd and beautiful.[/spoilers]

 

Did I ... Did I do the thing?

 

Edit:  Damn it I didn't.

 

Edit: Edit:  I'm going to get this.

 

[spoilers] Solas will be the death of us. [/spoilers]

 

*sigh*  I think I need help.  I'm so dumb all of the time.  This is what I get for being a lurker.

 

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[spoilers]  Yeah, I think he did.  He passed his hands in front of him like he was assisting the spirit to move on.  It was odd and beautiful.  [/spoilers]

 

Did I ... Did I do the thing?

It's spoiler lol, not spoilers... ;)



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I've decided that my Lavellan fell for Solas is because she senses his power, even of it's without even realizing it. Men who are like Solas fairly ooze power, confidence, control, dominance. That is wildly attractive. Women are drawn to that, even if they don't want to admit it. I am, anyway. That's why I pretend my human quizzie finds herself weirdly intoxicated.

I've also been spending more time paying attention to Solas during my human completionist I'm working on now. You know if you take him during the In Hushed Whispers- his body isn't thrown into the room after "dying" when the two companions sacrifice themselves to give you and Dorian time. I've played it a couple ways and you always see both companion bodies thrown into the room, limp. Except Solas. I checked it because I thought it silly that they would so easily off a God, even if it wasn't a future that actually transpired.

My husband dragged me to BW3 to watch the Browns play and instead of watching the football I'm on my phone reading Solas theories.

I need help.

 

I think it's that mix of aggressiveness and sweetness.

 

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Did I ... Did I do the thing?

 

Edit:  Damn it I didn't.

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