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[JasmineRupert]

Is there a difference in how the Companions cards looks during the game? I romanced Solas but I haven't seen any big differences. But I think Dorian's changed since he's now my 'friend'.

[silksieve]

What options did you pick during the break up?
When I tried angry then sad option I never got the post break up dialogue. Almost all the others have it though.

 

I did confused then sad.  I think it might be bugged, then, because I tried a couple of other combos, and it seemed kind of random which ones had the follow up.

 

Also, I ended up sad! I want to be able to go yell at him a little at Skyhold, too!

[BubbleDncr]

im not bothering to catch up with this thread since it moves sooo fast so excuse me if this has been posted already but

 

Spoiler

Someone on Twitter asked PW if Flemeth and Solas are lovers and he replied, "Spoilers!"

 

Not a big thing, or answer that we haven't gotten before for that matter, but omg.

 

Can a DLC come out like. Tomorrow. LOL

 

Please nooooooo

 

I was just looking up when Legacy came out for DA2. 4 months after DA2. So I expect we have a bit of a wait...

[Brass_Buckles]

I know people were talking pages ago this morning about how quickly Solas succumbs to passion with the Inquisitor.

 

I thought about that, and actually... it makes a tremendous amount of sense, even if it's not actually how he normally behaves.

 

Here's my take on why:

 

Spoiler

Solas wakes up to find everything gone awry.  First thing he does is probably seek out other elves.  Great, the Dalish!  Except they hate the Dread Wolf, and they don't remember who and what they are, and hardly any of them have any ability at all with magic.  Oh yeah, and because he lacks their silly god-slave markings, they treat him like a pariah and call him derogatory terms like "Flat-Ear."  Do they even know who they are speaking to???

 

So, hoping to find things better elsewhere, Solas goes traveling.  He finds humans.  Lots of humans.  And they are jerks.

 

Not a single person or thing in the world reaches out to Solas with compassion, understanding, or friendship.  He's an elven apostate, endangered by the prevalent belief in some new upstart deity he doesn't believe even exists.  He is completely, utterly alone in a land so foreign it might as well be a different planet, not the same place that he went to sleep in.

 

And then Corypheus happens, and the Conclave, which Solas is watching with guarded interest.  He meets Varric, who's friends with, well, practically everyone. And Solas is open-minded, so he decides to wait on hating the world, just yet.  He finds the Inquisitor with her newly-marked hand, and, deciding not to take the mark off or let her die, he stabilizes it, works to make it a permanent part of the Inquisitor so that that traitor Corypheus (or thief?) can't take more of his power.  Perhaps this person will help him out of gratitude? Maybe they can fix his mistake?  And he remembers her... he's seen this Dalish elf from the Fade.  Noticed her, unlike others.  She's... interesting, somehow.

 

He learns that the future Inquisitor is a Dalish spy, and then Cassandra shows up, screaming at him and threatening him.  Fine; he'll just make sure she feels he is not a threat.  No one in this accursed world is going to be friendly, it seems, except for Varric.  Everything is just WRONG.  Where are his people?

 

And then the Inquisitor wakes.  She asks questions, she wants to LEARN.  She's nice to him.  And if she wants to flirt, well, that's fantastic as far as he's concerned.  Finally, a little social contact!  A little acknowledgement!  Someone with respect for him, rather than fear.  It's too bad she's one of those sad broken little Dalish, but he can work with that... she makes him a little less lonely.

 

Then when everything seems set to continue being a total disaster, when he's sure she has died and taken the Anchor with her... She survives.  And she manages to seek him out in the Fade, and susses out that he's feeling a bit... confused about her.  And she kisses him.  It's been so very, very long... he's been in the Fade, he's been deprived of this kind of contact, of friendship or romance or whatever this is, with real people and not just spirits.  It's almost as if he'd been rendered Tranquil and then cured of it... he's been asleep for so very, very long, observing but not interacting directly.  He shouldn't, but... she's just so interesting.  And she's reaching out to him, and no one else is...

 

TL;DR?

 

Basically it's because he's been in the Fade for so long, deprived of actual person-to-person social contact.  Spirits aren't quite the same.  And then when he wakes, everyone is unfriendly because flat-ear or elven apostate.  His culture is shattered; the remnant Dalish are just sad shadows of what once was.  The world isn't recognizeable.  But then Lavellan shows him curiosity, she shows him friendship, respect, affection.  It's like restoring a Tranquil; he can't help himself.  All that emotion, all the rush of being really HUMAN (or ELVEN in his case) and ALIVE and in the REAL WORLD has come back to him.

 

So even if he normally would be reserved in a relationship, I think he doesn't quite have the restraint, given the circumstances.

[Birdy]

Arghh that's so annoying lol. I think they just want us to speculate. Whatevers, he likes my Lavellan more. Hmpf

How awesome would it be if they were lurking this thread taking out ideas.  XD

[mindoirs]

YEAH LIKE

 

FLEMETH WHEW

 

MY LAVELLAN/SOLAS PREVAILS ALL

 

........hopefully

.........maybe

 

Also yes, 4-6 months is usually the time frame for a DLC or at the very least an announcement.

[madrar]

Is there a difference in how the Companions cards looks during the game? I romanced Solas but I haven't seen any big differences. But I think Dorian's changed since he's now my 'friend'.

 

His should change quite a bit if you've done the committed relationship bit.  Does it look like this?

 

[RynJ]

I know people were talking pages ago this morning about how quickly Solas succumbs to passion with the Inquisitor.

 

I thought about that, and actually... it makes a tremendous amount of sense, even if it's not actually how he normally behaves.

 

Here's my take on why:

 

Spoiler

Solas wakes up to find everything gone awry.  First thing he does is probably seek out other elves.  Great, the Dalish!  Except they hate the Dread Wolf, and they don't remember who and what they are, and hardly any of them have any ability at all with magic.  Oh yeah, and because he lacks their silly god-slave markings, they treat him like a pariah and call him derogatory terms like "Flat-Ear."  Do they even know who they are speaking to???

 

So, hoping to find things better elsewhere, Solas goes traveling.  He finds humans.  Lots of humans.  And they are jerks.

 

Not a single person or thing in the world reaches out to Solas with compassion, understanding, or friendship.  He's an elven apostate, endangered by the prevalent belief in some new upstart deity he doesn't believe even exists.  He is completely, utterly alone in a land so foreign it might as well be a different planet, not the same place that he went to sleep in.

 

And then Corypheus happens, and the Conclave, which Solas is watching with guarded interest.  He meets Varric, who's friends with, well, practically everyone. And Solas is open-minded, so he decides to wait on hating the world, just yet.  He finds the Inquisitor with her newly-marked hand, and, deciding not to take the mark off or let her die, he stabilizes it, works to make it a permanent part of the Inquisitor so that that traitor Corypheus (or thief?) can't take more of his power.  Perhaps this person will help him out of gratitude? Maybe they can fix his mistake?  And he remembers her... he's seen this Dalish elf from the Fade.  Noticed her, unlike others.  She's... interesting, somehow.

 

He learns that the future Inquisitor is a Dalish spy, and then Cassandra shows up, screaming at him and threatening him.  Fine; he'll just make sure she feels he is not a threat.  No one in this accursed world is going to be friendly, it seems, except for Varric.  Everything is just WRONG.  Where are his people?

 

And then the Inquisitor wakes.  She asks questions, she wants to LEARN.  She's nice to him.  And if she wants to flirt, well, that's fantastic as far as he's concerned.  Finally, a little social contact!  A little acknowledgement!  Someone with respect for him, rather than fear.  It's too bad she's one of those sad broken little Dalish, but he can work with that... she makes him a little less lonely.

 

Then when everything seems set to continue being a total disaster, when he's sure she has died and taken the Anchor with her... She survives.  And she manages to seek him out in the Fade, and susses out that he's feeling a bit... confused about her.  And she kisses him.  It's been so very, very long... he's been in the Fade, he's been deprived of this kind of contact, of friendship or romance or whatever this is, with real people and not just spirits.  It's almost as if he'd been rendered Tranquil and then cured of it... he's been asleep for so very, very long, observing but not interacting directly.  He shouldn't, but... she's just so interesting.  And she's reaching out to him, and no one else is...

 

TL;DR?

 

Basically it's because he's been in the Fade for so long, deprived of actual person-to-person social contact.  Spirits aren't quite the same.  And then when he wakes, everyone is unfriendly because flat-ear or elven apostate.  His culture is shattered; the remnant Dalish are just sad shadows of what once was.  The world isn't recognizeable.  But then Lavellan shows him curiosity, she shows him friendship, respect, affection.  It's like restoring a Tranquil; he can't help himself.  All that emotion, all the rush of being really HUMAN (or ELVEN in his case) and ALIVE and in the REAL WORLD has come back to him.

 

So even if he normally would be reserved in a relationship, I think he doesn't quite have the restraint, given the circumstances.

 

This makes the idea of a playthrough where Solas hates you even more depressing. At least he makes other friends in the Inquisition.

 

Edit: Also, I don't mind the idea of Flemeth and Solas being past lovers. That would be incredibly interesting. As long as they aren't still together in some weird way if he falls in love with Lavellan, I'm cool with it. Definitely makes for a good story.

[Eivuwan]

How awesome would it be if they were lurking this thread taking out ideas.  XD

 

I'm sure that one or more of us have speculated correctly the path they are going with. I would be surprised if they come out with something completely unexpected that still makes sense.

[SamanthaJ]

I know adult characters having past lovers is perfectly fine and normal, but I'd really their past lover not be someone they run to and act intimate with right after they dumped and ditched my Inquisitor. 

[BubbleDncr]

I know people were talking pages ago this morning about how quickly Solas succumbs to passion with the Inquisitor.

 

I thought about that, and actually... it makes a tremendous amount of sense, even if it's not actually how he normally behaves.

 

Here's my take on why:

 

Spoiler

Solas wakes up to find everything gone awry.  First thing he does is probably seek out other elves.  Great, the Dalish!  Except they hate the Dread Wolf, and they don't remember who and what they are, and hardly any of them have any ability at all with magic.  Oh yeah, and because he lacks their silly god-slave markings, they treat him like a pariah and call him derogatory terms like "Flat-Ear."  Do they even know who they are speaking to???

 

So, hoping to find things better elsewhere, Solas goes traveling.  He finds humans.  Lots of humans.  And they are jerks.

 

Not a single person or thing in the world reaches out to Solas with compassion, understanding, or friendship.  He's an elven apostate, endangered by the prevalent belief in some new upstart deity he doesn't believe even exists.  He is completely, utterly alone in a land so foreign it might as well be a different planet, not the same place that he went to sleep in.

 

And then Corypheus happens, and the Conclave, which Solas is watching with guarded interest.  He meets Varric, who's friends with, well, practically everyone. And Solas is open-minded, so he decides to wait on hating the world, just yet.  He finds the Inquisitor with her newly-marked hand, and, deciding not to take the mark off or let her die, he stabilizes it, works to make it a permanent part of the Inquisitor so that that traitor Corypheus (or thief?) can't take more of his power.  Perhaps this person will help him out of gratitude? Maybe they can fix his mistake?  And he remembers her... he's seen this Dalish elf from the Fade.  Noticed her, unlike others.  She's... interesting, somehow.

 

He learns that the future Inquisitor is a Dalish spy, and then Cassandra shows up, screaming at him and threatening him.  Fine; he'll just make sure she feels he is not a threat.  No one in this accursed world is going to be friendly, it seems, except for Varric.  Everything is just WRONG.  Where are his people?

 

And then the Inquisitor wakes.  She asks questions, she wants to LEARN.  She's nice to him.  And if she wants to flirt, well, that's fantastic as far as he's concerned.  Finally, a little social contact!  A little acknowledgement!  Someone with respect for him, rather than fear.  It's too bad she's one of those sad broken little Dalish, but he can work with that... she makes him a little less lonely.

 

Then when everything seems set to continue being a total disaster, when he's sure she has died and taken the Anchor with her... She survives.  And she manages to seek him out in the Fade, and susses out that he's feeling a bit... confused about her.  And she kisses him.  It's been so very, very long... he's been in the Fade, he's been deprived of this kind of contact, of friendship or romance or whatever this is, with real people and not just spirits.  It's almost as if he'd been rendered Tranquil and then cured of it... he's been asleep for so very, very long, observing but not interacting directly.  He shouldn't, but... she's just so interesting.  And she's reaching out to him, and no one else is...

 

TL;DR?

 

Basically it's because he's been in the Fade for so long, deprived of actual person-to-person social contact.  Spirits aren't quite the same.  And then when he wakes, everyone is unfriendly because flat-ear or elven apostate.  His culture is shattered; the remnant Dalish are just sad shadows of what once was.  The world isn't recognizeable.  But then Lavellan shows him curiosity, she shows him friendship, respect, affection.  It's like restoring a Tranquil; he can't help himself.  All that emotion, all the rush of being really HUMAN (or ELVEN in his case) and ALIVE and in the REAL WORLD has come back to him.

 

So even if he normally would be reserved in a relationship, I think he doesn't quite have the restraint, given the circumstances.

 

You made me tear up inside. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

TL;DR?

 

Basically it's because he's been in the Fade for so long, deprived of actual person-to-person social contact.  Spirits aren't quite the same.  And then when he wakes, everyone is unfriendly because flat-ear or elven apostate.  His culture is shattered; the remnant Dalish are just sad shadows of what once was.  The world isn't recognizeable.  But then Lavellan shows him curiosity, she shows him friendship, respect, affection.  It's like restoring a Tranquil; he can't help himself.  All that emotion, all the rush of being really HUMAN (or ELVEN in his case) and ALIVE and in the REAL WORLD has come back to him.

 

So even if he normally would be reserved in a relationship, I think he doesn't quite have the restraint, given the circumstances.

 

Out of likes, but 100% agreed.  He seems so astonished at every turn of the romance to find the Inquisitor there, loving him, being with him.

[RynJ]

I'm sure that one or more of us have speculated correctly the path they are going with. I would be surprised if they come out with something completely unexpected that still makes sense.

 

I mean, we guessed at least once or twice in the past that Solas wasn't just connected to Fen'Harel but WAS Fen'Harel. We dismissed it with some laughs but it's pretty likely that somebody on here hit the nail on the head already about where they plan to go with Solas.

[madrar]

im not bothering to catch up with this thread since it moves sooo fast so excuse me if this has been posted already but

 

Spoiler

Someone on Twitter asked PW if Flemeth and Solas are lovers and he replied, "Spoilers!"

 

Not a big thing, or answer that we haven't gotten before for that matter, but omg.

 

Can a DLC come out like. Tomorrow. LOL

 

Ugh.  Hopefully just a red herring for the whole nutbag-crazy Flemythal = Andraste / Solas = Shartan = Andraste's lover theory.  Ugggh.

[BubbleDncr]

I know adult characters having past lovers is perfectly fine and normal, but I'd really their past lover not be someone they run to and act intimate with right after they dumped and ditched my Inquisitor. 

 

Spoiler

Especially if he's now merged with his ex-girlfriend. That's like the whole, Anders/Justice thing times a million.

 

edit - I can see it now, Hawke and Lavellan comparing their threesomes. 

[Sarquindi]

This song came on and it reminded me of how Levellan must be feeling.  Sad face!

 

[nightwolf667]

Argh, that theory is just unfair.

[GloriousDame]

I know people were talking pages ago this morning about how quickly Solas succumbs to passion with the Inquisitor.

 

I thought about that, and actually... it makes a tremendous amount of sense, even if it's not actually how he normally behaves.

 

Here's my take on why:

 

Spoiler

Solas wakes up to find everything gone awry.  First thing he does is probably seek out other elves.  Great, the Dalish!  Except they hate the Dread Wolf, and they don't remember who and what they are, and hardly any of them have any ability at all with magic.  Oh yeah, and because he lacks their silly god-slave markings, they treat him like a pariah and call him derogatory terms like "Flat-Ear."  Do they even know who they are speaking to???

 

So, hoping to find things better elsewhere, Solas goes traveling.  He finds humans.  Lots of humans.  And they are jerks.

 

Not a single person or thing in the world reaches out to Solas with compassion, understanding, or friendship.  He's an elven apostate, endangered by the prevalent belief in some new upstart deity he doesn't believe even exists.  He is completely, utterly alone in a land so foreign it might as well be a different planet, not the same place that he went to sleep in.

 

And then Corypheus happens, and the Conclave, which Solas is watching with guarded interest.  He meets Varric, who's friends with, well, practically everyone. And Solas is open-minded, so he decides to wait on hating the world, just yet.  He finds the Inquisitor with her newly-marked hand, and, deciding not to take the mark off or let her die, he stabilizes it, works to make it a permanent part of the Inquisitor so that that traitor Corypheus (or thief?) can't take more of his power.  Perhaps this person will help him out of gratitude? Maybe they can fix his mistake?  And he remembers her... he's seen this Dalish elf from the Fade.  Noticed her, unlike others.  She's... interesting, somehow.

 

He learns that the future Inquisitor is a Dalish spy, and then Cassandra shows up, screaming at him and threatening him.  Fine; he'll just make sure she feels he is not a threat.  No one in this accursed world is going to be friendly, it seems, except for Varric.  Everything is just WRONG.  Where are his people?

 

And then the Inquisitor wakes.  She asks questions, she wants to LEARN.  She's nice to him.  And if she wants to flirt, well, that's fantastic as far as he's concerned.  Finally, a little social contact!  A little acknowledgement!  Someone with respect for him, rather than fear.  It's too bad she's one of those sad broken little Dalish, but he can work with that... she makes him a little less lonely.

 

Then when everything seems set to continue being a total disaster, when he's sure she has died and taken the Anchor with her... She survives.  And she manages to seek him out in the Fade, and susses out that he's feeling a bit... confused about her.  And she kisses him.  It's been so very, very long... he's been in the Fade, he's been deprived of this kind of contact, of friendship or romance or whatever this is, with real people and not just spirits.  It's almost as if he'd been rendered Tranquil and then cured of it... he's been asleep for so very, very long, observing but not interacting directly.  He shouldn't, but... she's just so interesting.  And she's reaching out to him, and no one else is...

 

TL;DR?

 

Basically it's because he's been in the Fade for so long, deprived of actual person-to-person social contact.  Spirits aren't quite the same.  And then when he wakes, everyone is unfriendly because flat-ear or elven apostate.  His culture is shattered; the remnant Dalish are just sad shadows of what once was.  The world isn't recognizeable.  But then Lavellan shows him curiosity, she shows him friendship, respect, affection.  It's like restoring a Tranquil; he can't help himself.  All that emotion, all the rush of being really HUMAN (or ELVEN in his case) and ALIVE and in the REAL WORLD has come back to him.

 

So even if he normally would be reserved in a relationship, I think he doesn't quite have the restraint, given the circumstances.

I wish I had more likes! : (

But I definitely agree. I also think that at one point, he sees her as something else, not just someone who was kind to him when hardly anyone else was, but something special (like he says so).


Edit--
@Nightwolf- about Flemeth/mythar and Solas? Yeah, and I also don't see it as likely. I think we caught a glimpse of friendship, if not a motherly/son type of thing (not just because of the way Flemeth looks, but because of how they each behave).

[NeverlandHunter]

Quick question guys. Can you copy and paste images onto your post like you do with YouTube video URLs or is there some type of process to posting pictures?

[Brass_Buckles]

You made me tear up inside. 

 

Weekes owes me one for the fan tears.

[Mims]

I'm still siding with Mythal being his mother, or at least a mother figure. [But I won't mind either way.] 

 

Also, she can bond with Flemeth over how their children are always trying to kill them. 

[JasmineRupert]

His should change quite a bit if you've done the committed relationship bit.  Does it look like this?

 

No. Mine doesnt look like that. Guess I get it after the Final Scene with Solas?

[vertigomez]

http://pandaspwnz.tu...y-uploaded-this

BLESS. We totally need links to all these delicious soundclips in the OP.

I love that lil swagger he does. It's the best.
 

[Brass_Buckles]

I wish I had more likes! : (

But I definitely agree. I also think that at one point, he sees her as something else, not just someone who was kind to him when hardly anyone else was, but something special (like he says so).


Edit--
@Nightwolf- about Flemeth/mythar and Solas? Yeah, and I also don't see it as likely. I think we caught a glimpse of friendship, if not a motherly/son type of thing (not just because of the way Flemeth looks, but because of how they each behave).

 

I think there's already interest there, on his part.  He does mention noticing her from the Fade.  How long was he watching, exactly?  What were his thoughts?  We don't know, other than that he feels she's special and unique.  Maybe he feels like she's more akin to his people than anyone else, but who can say?  What's clear is that through the romance she's offering him something familiar, an "Anchor" of another sort, as it were, and much as he knows it's a bad idea, because he hates the world he's woken up to and wants to change it and that means losing her anyway... he can't help himself.  She's like a life float in the middle of a stormy sea, and as far as he can see there isn't any other flotsam around to grab hold of.

[nightwolf667]

Edit--
@Nightwolf- about Flemeth/mythar and Solas? Yeah, and I also don't see it as likely. I think we caught a glimpse of friendship, if not a motherly/son type of thing (not just because of the way Flemeth looks, but because of how they each behave).

 

Well, it would be awkward since Flemythal and Fen'harel predate Andraste by a significant period of time. So unless they fought the Tevinter Imperium to free the slaves, I'm inclined to go with no. However, it does kick my brain into "nope!" territory. Solas has enough to make up for without using the Inquisitor as a replacement for a previous relationship.