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[wildannie]

Yeah,  I'm agreeing with the idea that Solas' time in the fade may have had a huge effect on his outlook.  Can you imagine being able to experience the memories of people through time, I can imagine it would be very exhausting, potentially confusing, and would give perspective beyond ones years.

[BlueFlame527]

I gotta say I'm so in love with the image of an elven apostate sleeping in ancient ruins and experiencing all that came to pass there through the eyes of others.

Me too. It would be pretty cool that if he was not an ancient elf he could at lesst have seen how they lived their lives.

 

Edit: @Brass_Buckles All speculation on Solas  whether positive or negative is welcomed as long as it's constructive. I did not see the posts involving the argument on LI probability (mainly because I do not like to see arguing) but you should not feel like you cannot post any thoughts you have on Solas even if they are negative as long as you are being civil about it. From what I have seen nobody should have problems with you. All opinions are welcomed. So let's not fight anybody. People should feel free to express their opinions here. After all this is the Solas thread.

[Brass_Buckles]

I like the idea of it, and given our history of getting theories right in this thread it wouldn't surprise me if Solas is indeed mentally ancient.  He may identify more with those ancient people than he does with modern ones.  He may live more in the past than in the present.

 

... Which makes me wonder if something horrible may have happened to cause him to seek refuge in the past, beyond just simple historical interest.  Or maybe he's looking for something specific?

 

And I wonder if he realizes he isn't as old as he feels mentally?  Will he be able to see the Inquisitor as an equal?

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I feel like, whether he's an LI or not, Solas will come to see the Inquisitor as more than just some kid. At least on any sort of decent path with him. There's always an option to get your companions to respect you. I don't think they would write Solas in a way that he couldn't respect you or see you as an equal, even if you were just platonic friends.

[Ispan]

I feel like, whether he's an LI or not, Solas will come to see the Inquisitor as more than just some kid. At least on any sort of decent path with him. There's always an option to get your companions to respect you. I don't think they would write Solas in a way that he couldn't respect you or see you as an equal, even if you were just platonic friends.

 

Yeah, I think that under the right circumstances Solas could come to respect the Inquisitor and  that a Quizzy who makes brash or selfish decisions might remain a child in his eyes throughout the story.

[BlueFlame527]

I think Solas will see the inquisitor as an equal. After all he/she is leading an effort to saving the world while others are either fighting each other or just not doing anything about it. There's got to be some respect and authority to be had there.

[Brass_Buckles]

Hm.  Do you think being marked by the Fade (or something within the Fade) might have an impact, other than the presumed scholarly interest, on how Solas might view the Inquisitor?  If Solas somehow might know where/how the Inquisitor got that mark, it might have some bearing on his respect or lack thereof for the Inquisitor. Just a thought...

 

There were all those Inquisitor-Is-actually-a-spirit/demon, and Inquisitor-is-possessed theories floating around for a while, after all.

 

Also, not sure if Solas would be terribly displeased with a selfish Inquisitor, as long as that Inquisitor is still working to close the Fade Tear.  Now that's the biggie.  There may be an implication that we can choose to keep it open, or completely merge the two realities, within that line of thought...

[RynJ]

Considering your Inquisitor can also be around 40, I'd be more than a little annoyed if Solas treated you like a kid. Especially because I doubt there are differences in dialogue depending on how old you decided to make your Inquisitor look. So I'm going to hope the "kids these days" comments do not include the Inquisitor because mine will certainly not be childish in the least!

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I'm actually very interested in what the implications of merging the two would be and who would support that. 

[Brass_Buckles]

Considering your Inquisitor can also be around 40, I'd be more than a little annoyed if Solas treated you like a kid. Especially because I doubt there are differences in dialogue depending on how old you decided to make your Inquisitor look. So I'm going to hope that comment does not include the Inquisitor because mine will certainly not be childish in the least!

 

I don't intend for my Inquisitor to be childish, but the discussion we're having centers on the idea that Solas may be mentally hundreds or even thousands of years old, due to his reliving people's memories/lives in the Fade, where time perception is skewed.  If he has 500 years of life experience via the Fade and your Inquisitor has 45, he may have a hard time perceiving the Inquisitor as an adult.  That doesn't mean it's impossible.  This is something I brought up long ago in the old thread when we were speculating he might be an ancient elf, as well.  I mentioned basically that such extreme age might make it hard for Solas to see others as anything but youngsters.

 

But if he's able to view Blackwall as an adult, then there is surely hope yet.

[Solas]

I'm actually very interested in what the implications of merging the two would be and who would support that. 

See: Korra S3!

 

Doubt Solas sees Quiz as a kid. He seems to be on age-perception even terms with Blackwall so.

[Kov]

We have never had a companion who'd see us as kids. Even Loghain came to respect the Warden, and he was old enough to be his/her father. The closest was Wynne, who mentor towards everybody (and we lnow Solas will not, at least towards Blackwall), but if you ask me he's more like Mordin than like her. And if he is following the Inquisitor into battle I'm certain he'll see us like equals... Nah, having him seeing me as a child does not worry me. I could picture him thinking of Sera or Cole as kids though, seeing they're probably going to be the most immature companions.

And I don't think we'll be spirits/demons, but he seems the kind of person who doesn't put others into categories, so I doubt it'd change his views about us. Can't say the same about other characters though... Sera, Cullen or Vivienne could react badly to that.

 

About Cullen, since I've seen it now: he's... uglier than I expected, at least in the first picture. And his description seems to point towards him being even more against mages? I'm not really convinced... I really hope my only (hetero) options are not him and the IB. My character is a mage, someone who doesn't see her as a dangerous thing to be put in a cage would be nice.

[RynJ]

I don't intend for my Inquisitor to be childish, but the discussion we're having centers on the idea that Solas may be mentally hundreds or even thousands of years old, due to his reliving people's memories/lives in the Fade, where time perception is skewed.  If he has 500 years of life experience via the Fade and your Inquisitor has 45, he may have a hard time perceiving the Inquisitor as an adult.  That doesn't mean it's impossible.  This is something I brought up long ago in the old thread when we were speculating he might be an ancient elf, as well.  I mentioned basically that such extreme age might make it hard for Solas to see others as anything but youngsters.

 

But if he's able to view Blackwall as an adult, then there is surely hope yet.

 

That's an interesting idea. I'd be fine with it if Solas wasn't too heavy-handed with it or if it didn't make him take my Inquisitor less seriously. I don't tend to appreciate characters that look down on my protagonist so if I sense that with Solas, I'm not going to be too happy. 

[BlueFlame527]

@Brass_Buckles

Hm.  Do you think being marked by the Fade (or something within the Fade) might have an impact, other than the presumed scholarly interest, on how Solas might view the Inquisitor?  If Solas somehow might know where/how the Inquisitor got that mark, it might have some bearing on his respect or lack thereof for the Inquisitor. Just a thought...

 

There's the mark too. But Solas is said to be open minded as well as other things that makes up a person who has a calm personality and not think about anything in one close-minded way. I think he will see the Fade hand and be like "Now that I have to know about" but I think he will also see the Inquisitor as a person and say "Your trying to do something worthwile. I will stand by you so long as I know this is your goal and won't let it go to your head" by "letting it go to your head" I mean being very brutal and jnaccepting of others because of who they are. In an extreme case concerning this I think he'll be like "Screw you the world would be better off to be desteoyed than to let it live on with you making it a worse place". Of course he could stay based on a matter of survival but we were told that all but one of the companions could leave us so I don't know how or why Solas would leave.

 

Edit: had to quote you because my post came after several. Turns out I can only copy/paste quotes if I try to include them in an edited post because it is sent to the post box at the bottom.

[Solas]

compilation of what we know so far about solas from dev tweets 

[chrislynn]

@Cat Lance - you mentioned being wary of Cullen being even more hardened by the events in Kirkwall. David just posted a comment on a short fan fiction that you might find encouraging in that regard and I just wanted to share it for you (and anyone else who may feel the same). 

 

Spoiler

http://dgaider.tumbl...d-and-evil-come

 

I suspect that Solas will not treat your Inquisitor like a child as long as your inquisitor doesn't act like a child. And even then, it may make for some amusing banters in game! 

[BlueFlame527]

compilation of what we know so far about solas from dev tweets 

Just realized. What if Team "Crushed Expectations" Sera/Cole/Solas is actually Solas being disappointed  in not getting to know who Cole is because Cole and Sera might be too busy arguing?

[Banxey]

@Cat Lance - you mentioned being wary of Cullen being even more hardened by the events in Kirkwall. David just posted a comment on a short fan fiction that you might find encouraging in that regard and I just wanted to share it for you (and anyone else who may feel the same). 

 

Spoiler

http://dgaider.tumbl...d-and-evil-come

 

I suspect that Solas will not treat your Inquisitor like a child as long as your inquisitor doesn't act like a child. And even then, it may make for some amusing banters in game! 

 

Thanks for that. I'm still out of likes after yesterday (and I've read a lot I've liked here today - sigh), but I'm glad to hear that. Even if Cullen looks like my father.

[Brass_Buckles]

@Cat Lance - you mentioned being wary of Cullen being even more hardened by the events in Kirkwall. David just posted a comment on a short fan fiction that you might find encouraging in that regard and I just wanted to share it for you (and anyone else who may feel the same). 

 

Spoiler

http://dgaider.tumbl...d-and-evil-come

 

I suspect that Solas will not treat your Inquisitor like a child as long as your inquisitor doesn't act like a child. And even then, it may make for some amusing banters in game! 

 

Inquisitor> I thought you said Arlathan was close!  How close is close?  Are we there yet?

Solas> Pipe down, Inquisitor, and I'll give you some of this venison jerky to snack on.

Inquisitor> Oooh, snack time?  Can I have a cookie too?

Solas> Only if you behave.

Cassandra> Maybe we should look for a campsite.  I think it may be past the Inquisitor's bedtime soon.

[Dr. Doctor]

I'm kind of getting the impression/hoping that Solas is kind of like Uncle Iroh from Avatar. He's wise and somewhat stoic...until he starts nerding out over seemingly trivial things.

[nanami92]

Hm... with the way this conversation is going. I'm being reminded of Raine from Tales of Symphonia.

 

Like she's pretty serious, super intelligent and looks after the younger party members. But if there are ruins and magitechnology, she'll get super obsessed and nerdy aka "Ruin-Mode"

 

And not only that she's the main healer and a half-elf in the game

[Onecrazymonkey1]

eh I don't really think that Solas will think of our inquisitor as kid from that comment. Especially if we can make our inquisitor roughly close to the same age as him and Blackwall. I'm getting the vibe that the kids these days comment is him referring to Sera, (after all isn't she the youngest most carefree one of the group?) I see them clashing honestly. I also don't really get the feeling he's an ancient elf  because then I couldn't picture him relating to Blackwall about age (would he not also be thought of as a kid? Maybe he doesn't even base those feelings off of chronological age but mental maturity instead? If we play the part of a selfish bratty inquisitor, he'll think of as as childish, but if we're selfless and mature he'll treat us with respect. I'm horrible at speculating so please forgive if I sound dumb. I haven't read the novels to get any back story on this whole ancient elf thing either, so I'm kind of taking a shot in the dark.

 

 

 

Edit: I don't really know why I feel he is talking about Sera with that line, but something in my gut tells me it's so...maybe just hope

Modifié par Onecrazymonkey1, 04 juillet 2014 - 11:51 .

[Milan92]

I'm kind of getting the impression/hoping that Solas is kind of like Uncle Iroh from Avatar. He's wise and somewhat stoic...until he starts nerding out over seemingly trivial things.

 

Maybe his secret passion is making tea!

[Uirebhiril]

Just realized. What if Team "Crushed Expectations" Sera/Cole/Solas is actually Solas being disappointed  in not getting to know who Cole is because Cole and Sera might be too busy arguing?

 

I think they said that Sera refuses to speak to Cole? That'd be one hell of a one-sided argument.

[BlueFlame527]

I think they said that Sera refuses to speak to Cole? That'd be one hell of a one-sided argument.

  Cole to Sera. "Sera stop looking at me." 2 seconds later "Sera stop being so quiet."

or he argues to himself in the third person. "Cole why are you here?" "I don't know Cole why are you here?"  Would be funny at first, but too much after a while though.