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[jellobell]

I doubt they would ever go this route, but...

 

Lavellan is in a key position to actually do something about her people. She has the ear of humans, many of them powerful. She has had experience now commanding armies. If she could secure support in exchange for her influence in the human world, she could potentially make life easier for the Dalish. She could make life easier for the city elves, coupled with the support of Briala. If she has Solas, she could possibly wrangle in the remains of some of the ancient elves if they aren't plotting world domination somewhere. 

 

What elf-kind needs is some leadership, with connections to get the job done and the capacity to stay alive long enough for human lords not to remove them. 

Out of likes, but this is what I envision my Inquisitor working towards after the story.

[Vylix]

I doubt they would ever go this route, but...

 

Lavellan is in a key position to actually do something about her people. She has the ear of humans, many of them powerful. She has had experience now commanding armies. If she could secure support in exchange for her influence in the human world, she could potentially make life easier for the Dalish. She could make life easier for the city elves, coupled with the support of Briala. If she has Solas, she could possibly wrangle in the remains of some of the ancient elves if they aren't plotting world domination somewhere. 

 

What elf-kind needs is some leadership, with connections to get the job done and the capacity to stay alive long enough for human lords not to remove them. 

 

Unfortunately, there's still the fact that many Dalish don't want to join larger clans, and might see her as a pariah at this point. And Solas seems to want to hit the reset button rather than play the long game. But there's such potential for unity with all the pieces on the map at the moment. Doubly so if the Warden was an elf. 

And so Lavellan sent out a message to every Dalish clan she could find.

To my people,

Our time to rise has come once more. I am creating an Army and I wish you to join me. Together we shall take back our homeland. Gather at Skyhold, I will provide weapons and armor and we will discuss future plans.

-Inquisitior, Lavellan of Clan Lavellan. 

 

(Yeah. no. My creative juices are still broken sooo....)

With the help of several clans Lavellan attacked Tevinter, reclaiming Arlathan. Dorian was placed as leader, much to his amusement, and a chunk of the Elven homeland was recovered. Arlathan was slowly rebuilt, but one of the elves found a foci and used it to go on a rampage, killing everyone that wasn't a "true" elf. blah blah blah, a blight happens and there's no wardens alive, blah blah blah, everyone dies.

[Mims]

 

What's "viva la revolucion" in Elven?

 

I'll get my flag ready. But, I absolutely agree. I just hope we can somehow get Solas on our side for this, rather than standing in opposition because he can't let go of the past. 

[RynJ]

I'll get my flag ready. But, I absolutely agree. I just hope we can somehow get Solas on our side for this, rather than standing in opposition because he can't let go of the past. 

 

If he really is the God of Rebellion, I'm laughing at the idea of him wanting to stand in opposition but getting sucked in anyways because he can't help himself. Revolution is his fetish. 

[Brass_Buckles]

You can potentially have Zevran, Fenris, and Merrill too. Sure they're not as big as the Champion or the Warden, but they're still pretty much considered heroes. There have recently been a lot of famous elves.

 

Re TME:

Spoiler

I don't think they introduced the HUGE NETWORK of Eluvians just for fun. It's Chekov's gun. Someone is going to make use of them, sometime. They're a huge asset to the elves, especially since elves (and for some strange reason, Morrigan) are the only people who seem to be able to use them correctly. If they used them well, it would make it very difficult for the nobility to fight them effectively.

 

What's "viva la revolucion" in Elven?

 

Well, it doesn't mean quite the same thing, but how about "Fen'harel anansal?" (Fen'harel's blessing)

 

... Worked in The Masked Empire, yes?

[nightwolf667]

My Lavellan accepted his offer. She got caught up in the moment and she'd grown to trust him, even if he couldn't provide anything to back up his claims. (Including the fact that she just saw vallaslin on the servants in Mythal's temple.) She doesn't know what it means, but she's in the process of changing and she has a knee jerk reaction to slavery. Plus, he looked so unhappy to tell her and then so damn happy when she accepted his offer.

She really regrets it now, of course. The vallaslin is an important part of her cultural identity and she let him take it from her, let him turn her into a child. Then, he broke up with her. She's not happy, especially since the reason she didn't drink from the Well was that she realized reclaiming the past was less important than the future. Her people might not need the knowledge there. She ended up agreeing with Sera. The Dalish have spent too long clinging to the past, it's time to move forward. She even admitted the big deal made about the vallaslin was stupid, had a cookie, then curled up in a small ball in her tower and wept bitter tears.

 

But seriously, she had difficulty saying no to this face.

 

Spoiler

 

He looks so proud. "I'm so glad you're letting me help you."

[zambixi]

Well, it doesn't mean quite the same thing, but how about "Fen'harel anansal?" (Fen'harel's blessing)

 

... Worked in The Masked Empire, yes?

 

This is how cultural change starts. That becomes the code-phrase for the entire revolution. Instead of saying "May the Dread Wolf Never Find You," it's "Fen'harel anansal" and eventually people start using Fen'Harel as an emblem of the revolution rather than a pariah.

 

Also I think Solas would get a kick out of it.

[BubbleDncr]

I love how some of us have very different opinons on Dalish culture and the vallaslin, and there's no animosity or arguing.  I see now why the Solas fan thread was regarded as a unicorn.  So rare nowadays in the age of the internet.  I stopped being active on forums and things like that years ago, because there was just far too many negatives.  

Thanks Solas Recovery Wing for getting me back into conversing with people that share my interests.  This thread has been a joy.

 

One could say, it's probably reflective of the sorts of people attracted to Solas. He liked people with open minds - so, unless everyone on this thread was roleplaying out of character, it makes sense that everyone on this thread has an open mind in real life as well. 

[nightwolf667]

I doubt they would ever go this route, but...

 

Lavellan is in a key position to actually do something about her people. She has the ear of humans, many of them powerful. She has had experience now commanding armies. If she could secure support in exchange for her influence in the human world, she could potentially make life easier for the Dalish. She could make life easier for the city elves, coupled with the support of Briala. If she has Solas, she could possibly wrangle in the remains of some of the ancient elves if they aren't plotting world domination somewhere. 

 

What elf-kind needs is some leadership, with connections to get the job done and the capacity to stay alive long enough for human lords not to remove them. 

 

Unfortunately, there's still the fact that many Dalish don't want to join larger clans, and might see her as a pariah at this point. And Solas seems to want to hit the reset button rather than play the long game. But there's such potential for unity with all the pieces on the map at the moment. Doubly so if the Warden was an elf. 

 

I'd like to see it. The elves need a homeland to call their own and the Inquisition (with the backing of Leliana as Divine) is in the perfect position to secure it for them. Florianne and Gaspard both had lands, a Bannorn becomes available on the war table, potentially the Dalish are running the teyrnir of Gwarren (sp?). I wish there was an opportunity to make more movements toward progress. Or even some time spent on the city elves in Orlais instead of leaving it all up to whether or not the player is even aware of the events of Masked Empire.

The Inquisition is linked to the Chantry, but with power comes influence.

[Eivuwan]

And so Lavellan sent out a message to every Dalish clan she could find.

To my people,

Our time to rise has come once more. I am creating an Army and I wish you to join me. Together we shall take back our homeland. Gather at Skyhold, I will provide weapons and armor and we will discuss future plans.

-Inquisitior, Lavellan of Clan Lavellan. 

 

(Yeah. no. My creative juices are still broken sooo....)

With the help of several clans Lavellan attacked Tevinter, reclaiming Arlathan. Dorian was placed as leader, much to his amusement, and a chunk of the Elven homeland was recovered. Arlathan was slowly rebuilt, but one of the elves found a foci and used it to go on a rampage, killing everyone that wasn't a "true" elf. blah blah blah, a blight happens and there's no wardens alive, blah blah blah, everyone dies.

 

Retake the homeland from who though? I would rather every race learn to get along peacefully. Not sure if that's what Solas wants.

[Viki Who]

Could you provide a link to the source?

http://ruxandralache.tumblr.com/

[caridounette]

My Lavellan accepted his offer. She got caught up in the moment and she'd grown to trust him, even if he couldn't provide anything to back up his claims. (Including the fact that she just saw vallaslin on the servants in Mythal's temple.) She doesn't know what it means, but she's in the process of changing and she has a knee jerk reaction to slavery. Plus, he looked so unhappy to tell her and then so damn happy when she accepted his offer.

She really regrets it now, of course. The vallaslin is an important part of her cultural identity and she let him take it from her, let him turn her into a child. Then, he broke up with her. She's not happy, especially since the reason she didn't drink from the Well was that she realized reclaiming the past was less important than the future. Her people might not need the knowledge there. She ended up agreeing with Sera. The Dalish have spent too long clinging to the past, it's time to move forward. She even admitted the big deal made about the vallaslin was stupid, had a cookie, then curled up in a small ball in her tower and wept bitter tears.

 

But seriously, she had difficulty saying no to this face.

 

He looks so proud. "I'm so glad you're letting me help you."

 

 

Thats the thing, it is very very clear that it all comes from a good place with Solas. He isnt trying to hurt her, he is trying to help but with his big 'god fingers' instead of a deft touch ( i dunno how to illustrate that). 

 

He is jsut as wrong as the Dalish. Or jsut as right. My Lavellan loves them both and eventually she may be able to reconcilliate.

 

Like some of you guys said, the time apart for them both might jsut be exactly what they needed. A god/mortal relationship needs some more maturity so they dont lose themselves

[Cheerios789]

If he really is the God of Rebellion, I'm laughing at the idea of him wanting to stand in opposition but getting sucked in anyways because he can't help himself. Revolution is his fetish. 

 

Hahaha.  Lavellan is huddled over the war table planning troop movements and coordinating with Dalish clans and underground mage resistance.  She should not have been surprised when Fiona came to her with the idea to unite the Elvhen and Mage factions.  After all magic was intrinsically tied to the Elves.  She felt more than heard Solas' quiet presence behind her standing the doorway. 

 

"I know what you're going to say."  She started in an attempt to cut off whatever disapproving lecture was forthcoming.  "We are not ready and the Dalish are like children.  To force a full-scale conflict would only exacerbate the issue and more lives will be lost."  She stared up at him forcing him to meet her glare.  If she could not take rebuke from him, Lavellan would surely falter before her mission was complete.  "But I do not care.  We will not submit and hiding in our forests to play woodland sprite is submitting.  I can not reclaim Ancient Arlathan, but I can make something new, something better."

 

His face was impassive as it ever was with only the slightest twitch of his auburn brow.  She was amusing him, Lavellan realized.  Not for the first time, she considered striking that look off of his face.  But their game was subtle and it was much sweeter to surprise him with words versus actions.

 

Solas took a couple of long strides and crossed to the table.  His eyes swiftly took in tiny wooden pieces before settling on Lavellan.  "I would suggest dividing the mages into small units.  Guerrilla tactics will fell even the mightiest empire."

 

Their game was subtle, but it was he who had surprised Lavellan this round as Solas rearranged the wooden figurines and into position.

[Tielis]

Hahaha.  Lavellan is huddled over the war table planning troop movements and coordinating with Dalish clans and underground mage resistance.  She should not have been surprised when Fiona came to her with the idea to unite the Elvhen and Mage factions.  After all magic was intrinsically tied to the Elves.  She felt more than heard Solas' quiet presence behind her standing the doorway. 

 

"I know what you're going to say."  She started in an attempt to cut off whatever disapproving lecture was forthcoming.  "We are not ready and the Dalish are like children.  To force a full-scale conflict would only exacerbate the issue and more lives will be lost."  She stared up at him forcing him to meet her glare.  If she could not take rebuke from him, Lavellan would surely falter before her mission was complete.  "But I do not care.  We will not submit and hiding in our forests to play woodland sprite is submitting.  I can not reclaim Ancient Arlathan, but I can make something new, something better."

 

His face was impassive as it ever was with only the slightest twitch of his auburn brow.  She was amusing him, Lavellan realized.  Not for the first time, she considered striking that look off of his face.  But their game was subtle and it was much sweeter to surprise him with words versus actions.

 

Solas took a couple of long strides and crossed to the table.  His eyes swiftly took in tiny wooden pieces before settling on Lavellan.  "I would suggest dividing the mages into small units.  Guerrilla tactics will fell even the mightiest empire."

 

Their game was subtle, but it was he who had surprised Lavellan this round as Solas rearranged the wooden figurines and into position.

 

GAH OUT OF LIKES

[Cosmia]

So on another note, what Myers-Brigg personality do you think Solas would have? And what about your Inquisitor?

 

For Solas, I'm not sure. Definitely an IxTx, just not sure if S or N, and J or P. 

[Cheerios789]

GAH OUT OF LIKES

 

Daw, shucks. 

[zambixi]

Retake the homeland from who though? I would rather every race learn to get along peacefully. Not sure if that's what Solas wants.

 

Someone will have to cede power. Right now the elves have next to none. They're not going to get any power unless they have some representation, and since Thedas doesn't have democracy yet that means they need land. It doesn't necessarily have to be the Elven Nation or whatever, but they will need to secure positions as arls/arlessas, dukes/duchesses, etc. Right now those are held by noble families so...something's gotta give somewhere.

[Roxy]

http://ruxandralache.tumblr.com/

 

 

Thanks for the link.

 

Have ya'll seen the other art she drew? (younger Solas)

 

http://ruxandralache...a-younger-solas

 

 

Amazing! 

[nightwolf667]

Thats the thing, it is very very clear that it all comes from a good place with Solas. He isnt trying to hurt her, he is trying to help but with his big 'god fingers' instead of a deft touch ( i dunno how to illustrate that). 

 

He is jsut as wrong as the Dalish. Or jsut as right. My Lavellan loves them both and eventually she may be able to reconcilliate.

 

Like some of you guys said, the time apart for them both might jsut be exactly what they needed. A god/mortal relationship needs some more maturity so they dont lose themselves

 

Yeah, they both have completely different views of what those markings mean because the meaning has changed. Their relationship is built on lies and there's so much he could have told her about her culture but chose not to because it would endanger the masquerade. This is his gift, his attempt to make it up to her and bring them onto an even playing field. To him, when he looks at her, on some level he's seeing a slave and he believes she deserves better. His intentions are good, but it's also shortsighted because of his flaws. Solas tends to see what's important to him and ignore everything else like unintended consequences. He's looking at the situation from the perspective of 1,000 years ago. He loves her, he doesn't want to see her ignorantly marked with the pain of the past. He wants her free.

 

What he's taking from Lavellan may damage her relationship with her clan and will definitely hurt her standing among the other clans. While the choice to remove the tattoos is a personal one between the two of them, she's an important figure. The Dalish will see this as her abandoning her heritage and possibly abandoning them to become a "flat ear". She's already on thin ice because of the Chantry connections and while she probably could never have actually gone home again, she definitely can't now. All she can do is look for a way to prove Solas's claims (which may be important because I don't think the Dalish do know how to remove the vallaslin) and try find a way to show them that it is true.

 

She'll do better with the City Elves now though. I like the complexity of the choice and that he acquiesces to either decision. You don't lose anything by not letting him go through with it and he is understanding if Lavellan does want to keep them, he's just disappointed. It's a personal choice, whichever one we chose, there's no wrong one.

[Kath]

Out of Likes, a Solas discussion and fan thread story.

[madrar]

I guess I can't blame them too much for this, since looking down on elves seems to be something that comes all too naturally to their kind. Ancient elves look down on the Dalish, who look down on the city elves. Tattoos or not, elves lack unity and enjoy scapegoating the tier below them.

 

It might have been different if Solas was a city elf, but he's still coming at it from the perspective of...class, I suppose? He says nothing about how the Dalish see the tattoos, or how they use them against other elves. I think he sees Lavellan as like him. Not an ancient elf, but worthy of his heritage. In a way, I think he's removing the tattoos for exactly the same reason Dalish elves put them on. 

 

*mental high-five for putting it perfectly*

 

In the beginning, he's seriously affronted when Lavellen points out that they're from the same 'people'- but by the end, there is no question that she absolutely is.   (Perhaps only Lavellan, but one salvageable spirit is enough for our crazy save-the-world wolf to try again.)

[_Lucinia]

So on another note, what Myers-Brigg personality do you think Solas would have? And what about your Inquisitor?

 

For Solas, I'm not sure. Definitely an IxTx, just not sure if S or N, and J or P. 

I've seen mentioned somewhere that they thought he was an INTJ.

 

I seem to be an INFJ, so I guess my Lavellan is as well.

[nightwolf667]

*mental high-five for putting it perfectly*

 

In the beginning, he's seriously affronted when Lavellen points out that they're from the same 'people'- but by the end, there is no question that she is. 

 

Depending on how you talk to him, Abelas seems to come to that conclusion too. His expressions got really surprised when my Lavellan agreed with him that the Well should be destroyed. He sort of goes, "okay, maybe you're worthy" which means a lot considering how much time the elves spend kicking each other. I actually enjoyed his scenes and Flemeth's a lot more as a Dalish elf, especially demanding "why aren't you helping us!"

 

When Flemythal was all "You don't know what you're asking", my Lavellan just wanted to scream "How can I know if you don't tell me!". So much victim blaming.

 

For someone as open minded as Solas is supposed to be, I sort of love that he wears blinders on this particular issue.

[Cosmia]

I've seen mentioned somewhere that they thought he was an INTJ.

 

I seem to be an INFJ, so I guess my Lavellan is as well.

I'm wont to say he's an INTJ as well, but I'm not familiar enough with the other types to guess. I'm an INTJ, but I don't know if my Levellan would be as well. 

[Blackout62]

My Lavellan accepted his offer. She got caught up in the moment and she'd grown to trust him, even if he couldn't provide anything to back up his claims. (Including the fact that she just saw vallaslin on the servants in Mythal's temple.) She doesn't know what it means, but she's in the process of changing and she has a knee jerk reaction to slavery. Plus, he looked so unhappy to tell her and then so damn happy when she accepted his offer.

She really regrets it now, of course. The vallaslin is an important part of her cultural identity and she let him take it from her, let him turn her into a child. Then, he broke up with her. She's not happy, especially since the reason she didn't drink from the Well was that she realized reclaiming the past was less important than the future. Her people might not need the knowledge there. She ended up agreeing with Sera. The Dalish have spent too long clinging to the past, it's time to move forward. She even admitted the big deal made about the vallaslin was stupid, had a cookie, then curled up in a small ball in her tower and wept bitter tears.

 

But seriously, she had difficulty saying no to this face.

 

Spoiler

 

He looks so proud. "I'm so glad you're letting me help you."

 

They are just tattoos. I know it's all supposed to be very serious but I'm surprised no one has yet headcanoned an apathetic Inquisitor who says "Meh, I didn't like the color anyway. I'll get re-inked next time I'm home."
 

 

So on another note, what Myers-Brigg personality do you think Solas would have? And what about your Inquisitor?

 

For Solas, I'm not sure. Definitely an IxTx, just not sure if S or N, and J or P. 

 

I'm wont to say he's an INTJ as well, but I'm not familiar enough with the other types to guess. I'm an INTJ, but I don't know if my Levellan would be as well. 

 

Mind comparisons between Solas and Morrigan because she is the queen of INTJs.

 

INTJs, we are are a weird bunch aren't we. I imagine my Lavellan is INFJ.