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[Birdy]

Geez, I'll have to ****** Solas off in one playthrough won't I? 

 

 

Edit: Lol. I think I typed p***ed, was confused why there were extra stars.  XD

 

And it's really funny to get the language filter with all the smut that's posted in this thread. 

[Sifr]

So I just got to Skyhold in my 2nd playthrough, and Solas hates my Inquisitor so much already, that I got to punch him in the face! (I didn't actually punch him in my playthrough, as that would be out of character for her, but I went back and punched him just for the sake of my Lavellan).

 

I laughed so hard. His pose after you punch him is hilarious.

 

I'm having flashbacks to Sisko punching Q...

 

[TheComfyCat]

So I just got to Skyhold in my 2nd playthrough, and Solas hates my Inquisitor so much already, that I got to punch him in the face! (I didn't actually punch him in my playthrough, as that would be out of character for her, but I went back and punched him just for the sake of my Lavellan).

 

I laughed so hard. His pose after you punch him is hilarious. 

 

 

 

How does this conversation end if you don't punch him? People only seem to upload the punching one. Personally, I don't find it funny. More depressing, really.. it makes him more isolated, and probably makes him feel vindicated in pursuing his ominous future goals. But it is an interesting look into his personality. He does not retaliate violently, and though he's upset, he still approves of an inquisitor providing a rational argument (even though he disagrees).

[jellobell]

taking the occasional break to see how the volleyball and wet t-shirt contests are progressing...

 

[Morrigan Disapproves -50]

[BubbleDncr]

Since we were talking about this earlier on the thread - Sebastian's reason for not showing up with a romanced Hawke actually makes sense as well. And her breif bit of talking about him did give me a "gulp, maybe I shouldn't leave her in the fade..."

 

And it's really a shame that people who didn't have Loghain/Alistair as a Grey Warden got stuck with Stroud. The second Hawke said, "my friend Alistair," I squeed. Whereas on my first playthrough I didn't give a **** about Stroud. 

 

Otherwise, to keep this post on topic...I'm going to laugh myself to sleep tonight thinking about punching Solas. It'll be a nice change of pace from crying myself to sleep thinking about Solas...

[Sine_Amore]

I just find it hard myself to take comfort in punching him. Leaving you is obviously not something he really wants to do. I'm sure he already feels completely horrid. /: Then again, I couldn't hurt a fly and often let people walk all over me, so take that for what it's worth, haha.

[BubbleDncr]

How does this conversation end if you don't punch him? People only seem to upload the punching one. Personally, I don't find it funny. More depressing, really.. it makes him more isolated, and probably makes him feel vindicated in pursuing his ominous future goals. But it is an interesting look into his personality. He does not retaliate violently, and though he's upset, he still approves of an inquisitor providing a rational argument (even though he disagrees).

 

If you ask him if you're leaving, he says something like, "no, I'm here to help save the world. I'm gonna hope someday you come to your senses." I recorded that one as well, I just haven't uploaded it. 

 

The other option is less interesting than that. They basically both just end up with him walking away from you. 

 

The odd thing is after that, he just goes back to being like, "To what do I owe the pleasure?" whenever you click on him. It's disturbingly similar to right after her breaks your heart. 

[kalasaurus]

Since we were talking about this earlier on the thread - Sebastian's reason for not showing up with a romanced Hawke actually makes sense as well. And her breif bit of talking about him did give me a "gulp, maybe I shouldn't leave her in the fade..."

 

And it's really a shame that people who didn't have Loghain/Alistair as a Grey Warden got stuck with Stroud. The second Hawke said, "my friend Alistair," I squeed. Whereas on my first playthrough I didn't give a **** about Stroud. 

 

Otherwise, to keep this post on topic...I'm going to laugh myself to sleep tonight thinking about punching Solas. It'll be a nice change of pace from crying myself to sleep thinking about Solas...

 

I thought it was kind of funny that my rogue!Hawke was besties with Loghain... you know... after Ostagar and all that.

[Brass_Buckles]

So I just got to Skyhold in my 2nd playthrough, and Solas hates my Inquisitor so much already, that I got to punch him in the face! (I didn't actually punch him in my playthrough, as that would be out of character for her, but I went back and punched him just for the sake of my Lavellan).

 

I laughed so hard. His pose after you punch him is hilarious. 

 

 

Hmmm.  That actually gives some insight into his character, how he reacts to the Inquisitor calling herself a demigod.  Sounds like Solas has a bit of personal experience with that...

 

And yet I'd have sooooo much trouble punching him.  Especially when he thinks you're a racist monster of a person.  And yet... I really SHOULD do a playthrough where I anger him that way.  I want to do a playthrough of possibly an Andrastian qunari who may eventually be convinced she is divine, and certainly a human who genuinely believes he or she is the Herald.

 

Ahhh, Solas, I just don't want to hurt you even though you are only pixels with voice acting!

[Sable Rhapsody]

I just find it hard myself to take comfort in punching him. Leaving you is obviously not something he really wants to do. I'm sure he already feels completely horrid. /: Then again, I couldn't hurt a fly and often let people walk all over me, so take that for what it's worth, haha.

 

I'm glad other people are uploading these videos so I don't have to do them in my game to see how they flow.  I like seeing both sides of a relationship (friendship/rivalry in DA2 was especially interesting) but I just can't bring myself to be that mean-spirited in game.

[jellobell]

How does this conversation end if you don't punch him? People only seem to upload the punching one. Personally, I don't find it funny. More depressing, really.. it makes him more isolated, and probably makes him feel vindicated in pursuing his ominous future goals. But it is an interesting look into his personality. He does not retaliate violently, and though he's upset, he still approves of an inquisitor providing a rational argument (even though he disagrees).

I find it kinda amusing up until the punch actually happens (because I love Solas, even when he's pissed-off). And yeah, it's depressing to think that afterwards he's just going to isolate himself even more. He needs, I dunno, a support network or something. He always holds himself at arms length from everyone else (except perhaps Cole and a romanced Lavellan). That's why I loved his chess banter with Bull so much. I could just feel the blossoming of what could be a really valuable friendship for him. I wish we'd gotten more scenes of him interacting with the rest of the Inquisition.

[Sine_Amore]

I'm glad other people are uploading these videos so I don't have to do them in my game to see how they flow.  I like seeing both sides of a relationship (friendship/rivalry in DA2 was especially interesting) but I just can't bring myself to be that mean-spirited in game.

I completely agree. I can't lie and say I don't seek out these videos cause I have--and will continue to do so. It just breaks my heart further. Even with Vivienne, who I completely dislike, I cannot imagine being mean to her.

[5ubzer0]

Aww, what a sad and beautiful romance this was. Please, let there be a Solas DLC to give us closure!

[BubbleDncr]

Hmmm.  That actually gives some insight into his character, how he reacts to the Inquisitor calling herself a demigod.  Sounds like Solas has a bit of personal experience with that...

 

And yet I'd have sooooo much trouble punching him.  Especially when he thinks you're a racist monster of a person.  And yet... I really SHOULD do a playthrough where I anger him that way.  I want to do a playthrough of possibly an Andrastian qunari who may eventually be convinced she is divine, and certainly a human who genuinely believes he or she is the Herald.

 

Ahhh, Solas, I just don't want to hurt you even though you are only pixels with voice acting!

 

Like I said, I didn't actually punch him in my playthrough - my 2nd character is a "good" person, she's just an extremely devout Andrastian - as does believe she's the Herald. That's mostly the reason they don't get along. I get a fair amount of approval from him from doing all my normal, "good person" things - but claiming to really be the Herald and viewing the Inquisition as an arm of the Chantry really makes him dislike you. 

[BubbleDncr]

I find it kinda amusing up until the punch actually happens (because I love Solas, even when he's pissed-off). And yeah, it's depressing to think that afterwards he's just going to isolate himself even more. He needs, I dunno, a support network or something. He always holds himself at arms length from everyone else (except perhaps Cole and a romanced Lavellan). That's why I loved his chess banter with Bull so much. I could just feel the blossoming of what could be a really valuable friendship for him. I wish we'd gotten more scenes of him interacting with the rest of the Inquisition.

 

That's one reason I wanted to make a playthrough where he completely hates my Inquisitor, though. I assume he's going to come back, and I want to be able to see first hand, all the variations of Solas there could be. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I get a fair amount of approval from him from doing all my normal, "good person" things - but claiming to really be the Herald and viewing the Inquisition as an arm of the Chantry really makes him dislike you. 

 

It probably reminds him rather forcefully of Corypheus; a mortal with delusions of godhood.  I wonder how he'll react to my Adaar; he's basically the chillest Andrastian you'll ever meet.  He likes the Herald title and believes in the Maker, but he also believes in being an epic bro to all, even grumpy egghead elves   

[Brass_Buckles]

I find it kinda amusing up until the punch actually happens (because I love Solas, even when he's pissed-off). And yeah, it's depressing to think that afterwards he's just going to isolate himself even more. He needs, I dunno, a support network or something. He always holds himself at arms length from everyone else (except perhaps Cole and a romanced Lavellan). That's why I loved his chess banter with Bull so much. I could just feel the blossoming of what could be a really valuable friendship for him. I wish we'd gotten more scenes of him interacting with the rest of the Inquisition.

 

I had the impression that he tends to isolate himself intentionally.  We were told he's introverted, but I get the feeling it's less that he's an introvert and more that he's actively trying to avoid getting close to these people.  After all, they aren't "real."  Except for that Lavellan person who won't leave him alone, but she's cute so that's okay.  He doesn't show up to play cards and share stories with Varric, and absolutely everyone else is there (or is Cole?  I forget... and no I am not joking, I seriously can't remember, irony of ironies).

 

Actually I feel like the only members of the Inquisition who reach out to Solas, other than potentially the Inquisitor, are Varric and Cole.  Iron Bull and Cassandra talk to him, but they don't really reach out to him.  Cassandra is a bit too brusque with him, and Iron Bull is... Iron Bull.  I really have a tough time imagining reserved, private Solas getting very close to extroverted, bawdy Iron Bull.  And I think Solas attempts to be friendly with Blackwall, until after The Incident, but it doesn't go so well either because Blackwall's not a big fan of our mysterious elven mage.

 

Even though Varric seems to reach out to Solas in friendship, too, I don't think Solas really acknowledges it as much as he could?  I wonder if it's because of the immortality thing.  That would make you afraid to get too close... or maybe it's just that he knows he's going to have to do Something later, and we still don't know 100% if that's what we think it is.  But what we do know is that once he does it, lots of people may lose their lives.

[Sable Rhapsody]

He doesn't show up to play cards and share stories with Varric, and absolutely everyone else is there (or is Cole?  I forget... and no I am not joking, I seriously can't remember, irony of ironies).

 

Cole is there for Wicked Grace.  Leliana, Vivienne, and Solas are the ones missing.

[Sine_Amore]

I had the impression that he tends to isolate himself intentionally.  We were told he's introverted, but I get the feeling it's less that he's an introvert and more that he's actively trying to avoid getting close to these people.  After all, they aren't "real."  Except for that Lavellan person who won't leave him alone, but she's cute so that's okay.  He doesn't show up to play cards and share stories with Varric, and absolutely everyone else is there (or is Cole?  I forget... and no I am not joking, I seriously can't remember, irony of ironies).

 

Actually I feel like the only members of the Inquisition who reach out to Solas, other than potentially the Inquisitor, are Varric and Cole.  Iron Bull and Cassandra talk to him, but they don't really reach out to him.  Cassandra is a bit too brusque with him, and Iron Bull is... Iron Bull.  I really have a tough time imagining reserved, private Solas getting very close to extroverted, bawdy Iron Bull.  And I think Solas attempts to be friendly with Blackwall, until after The Incident, but it doesn't go so well either because Blackwall's not a big fan of our mysterious elven mage.

 

Even though Varric seems to reach out to Solas in friendship, too, I don't think Solas really acknowledges it as much as he could?  I wonder if it's because of the immortality thing.  That would make you afraid to get too close... or maybe it's just that he knows he's going to have to do Something later, and we still don't know 100% if that's what we think it is.  But what we do know is that once he does it, lots of people may lose their lives.

I thought he did fine. He doesn't bare all, but he's very forthcoming about himself if you only ask--to a point, obviously. Sure, he's socially awkward, but whether you're going off his given story of being a non-Dalish wandering apostate or his Dread Wolf background, it's a very solitary life. He branches out more to very select few, but to each his own. I know some people who have many friends, and others who have only a handful. It's not really about the quantity but the quality, in my opinion.

 

I don't believe he wants to be alone and he doesn't open up more to Lavellan because she's cute but because he can relate to her. Her personality draws him in as someone he can share things with, be more of himself with. He never expected to find anyone who would understand and accept him.

 

Again, just a difference of opinion. All theories are really very fascinating, this is just my take. (:

[scintilla]

He definitely needs a support network and he could probably have had one, if he had let himself. I've had Cassandra and Solas in my party so much that I've heard a lot of their banter and she isn't brusque for very long - they actually really appreciate each other. That could have been a friendship if Solas had let it be one. Varric too. Even with very different personalities, I think Bull would have been there for him if he'd needed it. He was, after all, there for Bull.

 

But it's not that simple because Solas has trust issues and, given how he responds to Lavellan telling him he's admirable, he probably struggles with the idea that any of these people could see him for what he is (which is probably equal parts his arrogance and things they've said about their beliefs). What he needed and what he was capable of allowing himself during the course of the game were worlds apart.

[nightwolf667]

Wow this thread moves so fast! I usually keep up with it! So many cool conversations guys! I've really enjoyed catching up.

 

One the subject of Solas songs, this one really fits post-game Lavellan.

 

 

Spoiler

"Ghost"
 

I keep going to the river to pray
'Cause I need something that can wash all the pain
And at most I'm sleeping all these demons away
But your ghost, the ghost of you
It keeps me awake

My friends had you figured out
Yeah, they saw what's inside of you
You tried hiding another you
But your evil was coming through

These guys sitting on the wall
They watch every move I make
Bright light living in the shade
Your cold heart makes my spirit shake

I had to go through hell to prove I'm not insane
Had to meet the devil just to know his name

And that's when my love was burning
Yeah, it's still burning

[2x:]
I keep going to the river to pray
'Cause I need something that can wash all the pain
And at most I'm sleeping all these demons away
But your ghost, the ghost of you
It keeps me awake

Each time that I think you go
I turn around and you're creeping in
And I let you under my skin
'Cause I love living in the sin

Boy you never told me
True love was going to hurt
True pain I don't deserve
Truth is that I never learn

[2x:]
I keep going to the river to pray
'Cause I need something that can wash all the pain
And at most I'm sleeping all these demons away
But your ghost, the ghost of you
It keeps me awake

Give up the ghost
Give up the ghost
Give up the ghost
Stop the haunting baby

Give up the ghost
Give up the ghost
Give up the ghost
No more haunting baby

I keep going to the river

[2x:]
I keep going to the river to pray
'Cause I need something that can wash all the pain
And at most I'm sleeping all these demons away
But your ghost, the ghost of you
It keeps me awake

 

 

Seriously. Hawke just left Fenris at home and he didn't follow.  It's not like they didn't have access to the voice actor.  I'm firmly gonna ignore that Fenris wasn't there and believe he's just in the Tavern.

 

 

The day Hawke gets something past Fenris is the day the world comes crashing down.    That dude is way too perceptive and he can guilt Hawke like... well... nobody. It wasn't completely out of character for Hawke to try to leave him at home, but very out of character for him to not to see right through him/her. Seriously, Fenris is more than capable of keeping up with Varric and Isabella at their most crafty.

[AWTEW]

I am suddenly reminded of a fan-made Zevran audio someone created. Yep, my Tabris and Zevran are totally headed to the Anderfels on vacation...

OMG that was awsome. Thanks for sharing!

[Sine_Amore]

Wow this thread moves so fast! I usually keep up with it! So many cool conversations guys! I've really enjoyed catching up.

 

One the subject of Solas songs, this one really fits post-game Lavellan.

 

This thread and my suspiciously sad Pandora station are fuelling my fangirling this evening. Nearly on page 5. @_@ The writing is helping, haha.

 

Plus this thread. I'm keeping it up. It's good to have people to chat this over with since my hubby could not care less. He likes Solas, but he hasn't gotten to see the side of him that I've seen and he doesn't especially care to. xP It's nice chatting with people who understand and are even interested in the subject.

 

Hubby: Oh, you're sad? *smooches on Cass*

Me: *glares* Heartless bastard

 

I love my hubby

 

But don't tell him I'm cheating on him with this Solas thread/romance. <.<

[Sine_Amore]

Double post.

 

Of course, this song then comes on: "Say Something (Feat. Christina Aguilera)" by A Great Big World.

 

This is my Incubus station! Where is the rock and stuff!?!?

 

/facewall

 

Edit: "If You Could Only See" by Tonic

 

I could not plan this **** if I tried.

Modifié par Sine_Amore, 11 décembre 2014 - 07:21 .

[CPail]

One thing I found infuriating and good at the same time (crazy right?) was him affirming that he does cares for her. What they had was real. Its almost he doesn't want to let go and let her move on.
The selfless way would have been to just lie "hey I was just using you..never actually cared *weeps in some corner* Its not like the first lie he would be telling anyways ._.
About him giving the slip and not trusting enough to tell the truth. It is the same old drama of "this is best for you ..don't want to drag you along with all the things I am going through"
Another thing I found annoying was the naivety and obliviousness Lavellan displays at times. She might have come across dozens of clues about his hazy background but never once questioned or asked what "sorrow" is he hiding.

My script follows differently but under the same premise of selfishness. I don't believe Solas confirms his feelings for her because part of him doesn't want to let go--which I'm sure it doesn't--but because it's the truth. And he'll hold that above anything else. His feelings were/are real, and that's a fact. So, truth.

 

Whether he denied his affection or affirmed it, my Lavellan would react the same: questioning and ruminating. She'd want to understand the complex snowflake, deconstruct him by examining every detailed crystal he has to offer, gain closure from learning his motives, and help him move forward--Maker knows that's what she's done for Thedas.

 

spoiler because remaining post runs on a tangent

 

Spoiler

My script also follows differently with how he departed in their third romance scene. I see it as Solas (pride, solace, alone) wanting to fix what he perceives as a mistake (i'm thinking waking the Old Gods will result in more bloodshed and stripped freedom), which he caused in the first place. Since he was the one to cause it, he thinks "i should be the one to make it better" type deal. It's a duty and a responsibility, and there's a probability of it pitting him against all the people she loves.

 

Separation will make fulfilling his task easier, because she, and her beliefs, makes him doubt. Doubt doesn't fit into the equation of "fixing" the world on his own. It skews it, in fact. Malfunction must not happen. Plan must be enacted. Give the improbability the boot before it can cause harm. Like how Corephy-spit intended to kill the Inquisitor, despite being an unknown rival. Ending the relationship fits his big picture. It's a path he chooses to walk alone, even if it hurts. He's worn but accustomed to enduring.

 

Pride is still Solas' folly. He thinks he can do it alone, but he can't, really. Releasing the Old Gods may alleviate his guilt, or provoke further guilt of yet another mistake (which would be releasing havoc on Thedas, should the gods just happen to be angry  ).

 

It parallels with Cassandra and the Seekers, in a way. Difference is that Cassandra acknowledged needing help and chose not to walk her path alone, because what she was doing was larger than her, no matter her capability or wish to carry out a one-man-lead crusade. 

 

Now, I do 100% agree with you on Lavellan's naivety. There are so many red flags surrounding Solas--one neatly erect on his bald head, a couple coming out of his ears, one on this nose... just all over. It's frustrating, too, how little elvish she knows. My Lavellan definitely has emotional intelligence, but she is also an inquisitive and intellectual being, although those are subtle and overshadowed by her compassion. It's a shame she doesn't get to explore thought more, or ask provoking questions to surprise Solas even further. 

 

alas, now I'm going to make an air-headed, domineering Andrastian human who discriminates against all races, was cloistered as a child, demands for attention, wouldn't know the word "modesty" if it was branded onto his (i will be making an egotistical, testosterone-driven male, yes) spanking-ass butt cheek... yet still leads a powerful movement.   i'm interested in how the inner circle will react in comparison to my humble, unassuming, knowledge-seeking, assertive, and sweeter-than-frilly cakes fem!Dalish.