I'd rather not have to make my Lavellan evil, but she really is all bound up in him at this point, and I would have to let her go to follow him into that end.
My biggest fear is that the whole thing turns into an Anders2 situation. I really don't want to deal with a Solas who's not Solas anymore. It's just... nope.
I agree that if worst comes to worst, if Lavellan happens to be in a romance with Solas, if there is no happy end for Solas I would like the option of her dying with him so that he doesn't die alone.
/goesbacktolurking
Out of curiosity, what would everyone consider a happy ending for Solas and what do you think needs to happen in the story to achieve it?
Its hard to really say just yet, without knowing Solas's end goals are.
Without touching on anything too specifically, I would say my ultimate happy ending for Solas/Lavellan would be a sort of partnership between them. I don't think they can ever be together in a sort of conventional relationship where they get married, have kids, and linger around doing nothing. Solas is always going to be chasing something, and hopefully, its something that Lavellan can agree is a worthy cause. Maybe it is rebuilding the elven empire in a way that doesn't exclude the Dalish or the City Elves. Maybe it has more to do with protecting the world in some way.
But I would love to see them as lovers and partners. Maybe they spend time apart from time to time chasing down different leads or Solas needing to go places where Lavellan can't follow. Something active. Something where Solas has someone mortal to keep him in check and they work together to do things. Basically: an ending where Lavellan isn't excluded just because she's mortal, and Solas can keep on doing what he's doing. So long as what he's doing is beneficial, and not evil.
@zambixi you can also punch Dorian too! Lol. I can't have a play through that's mean to Solas :c he's to adorable. I was just down in DC a few weeks ago to visit the zoo. I ate at an awesome Thai restaurant that had a verrrrry nice looking Thai waiter *grins deviantly*.
@Avejajed should of thought about Indiana, duh!I'm Lancaster county myself, don't know where that fits on Amish population sizes though. I can't stand when people speak a different language to each other right next to me. I want to know what you're saying! >:c Haha some Amish do ride a high horse, but I love 'em, they make delicious soft pretzels and lemonade!
Hehe really off topic. Other than Cole who do you guys think Solas gets along the best with? Or the people in the Inquisition he'll feel the most guilt for leaving/betraying(?)
Funnily enough, I can see Solas missing Cassandra. Sure, she seems a hardass in the beginning, but that's just Cass. Even in the Fade scene, he laughs with you about that being how Cass is. As the game goes on, you see that she's really willing to bend and accept thoughts/opinions/et cetera from other. Hell, she even allowed Solas to stay from the beginning. It's not very apparent, but I feel like the signs are there if you look for them. She's a great example for humanity. I think if Cullen had been slightly different, he could have fallen in to this category as well.
Also, while he may not agree even the slightest bit with the Qun, you have to admit that Solas had some fun with Bull. xP
Out of curiosity, what would everyone consider a happy ending for Solas and what do you think needs to happen in the story to achieve it?
Hmm... my ideal situation is a bit different, I guess. I believe that Solas and Lavellan are soul mates whose spirits are meant for each other, but they're in the "wrong world", much like Solas would say.
Solas would let her go, but still hold onto his love for her. Lavellan will live a full mortal life, perhaps even marrying and having her own family, though she'll never forget Solas. When Lavellan dies, Solas finds a way to raise her spirit so that she can return to his side once more in the Fade- the one place where they can truly be together. I don't want Lavellan to have to give up a mortal life, but I don't want her to give up Solas either. This way I can have my cake and eat it too 
And yes, I kind of ripped off Titanic.
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My biggest fear is that the whole thing turns into an Anders2 situation. I really don't want to deal with a Solas who's not Solas anymore. It's just... nope.
Yeaaahhhh... the SolasNotSolas thing would be bad. Very bad.
Though I enjoyed the way the Anders thing ended, since you at least got the chance to have a happy ending. Hey, my Hawke supported everything he did because she was such a rebel herself. She still hopes that they can find a way to "cure" him someday. And I'm glad that they havne't taken that away from us. Yet. 
I don't think Solas is evil, so I hope that whatever Bioware has planned for him gives him some redemption in the end. I really hope he doesn't "die alone".
Roxy, in other threads it seems like Western Approach is broken for banter.
Also, when did a nightmare call Solas Dread Wolf?
Because the point of the charade is to ensure no one asks questions that could get him into trouble, not that they'd actually figure out his plan. When people are thinking about him, it provides more opportunities for them to see the holes to hit upon inconsistencies in his story that don't mean anything. Would they figure out he's the Dread Wolf? Probably not. Would they figure out he knows way more than he's saying and is not what he's presented himself as? The chances are good, yes. If you're playing through on an elf character, for example, Abelas does not recognize your character as an elf like him. He does however recognize Solas as one if he's there. ("There is a place for you, Lethallin.") Interesting.
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In my playthrough, Abelas treated Solas as if he were an outsider too, I thought. Hmmm I went back and reloaded my save anyway so I am going to do the temple over again to see if I catch anything different.
My biggest fear is that the whole thing turns into an Anders2 situation. I really don't want to deal with a Solas who's not Solas anymore. It's just... nope.
OMG I hope not. They already played that card and it ruined Anders for me.
Out of curiosity, what would everyone consider a happy ending for Solas and what do you think needs to happen in the story to achieve it?
Elrond always said she would lose her immortality if she stayed, and Aragorn was one of those humans that lived a really long time (like centuries) so how was this an issue? Eh, again, my memory's probably rusty.
My unfettered nerdiness made me answer:
It was an issue because elves only have eternal life on Arda (the world). They can be reborn under certain circumstances (if I remember correctly), but they are tied to the world, so when they die, it is a fairly deep tragedy. I would imagine that Arwen losing her immortality might also mean a true, complete and permanent death for her, but I'm not certain. Aragorn is human. They live shorter lives in the world, but they return to Eru (the supreme deity in LotR) when they die, and live there forever. So Arwen's sacrifice is a rather serious thing, and Aragorn might be the most selfish asshat ever for letting her go through with it (although I do appreciate that she actually makes an autonomous decision in this). He already gets his eternal life after his body dies. Though it makes for a rather pleasantly poignant love story. I only wish that Arwen got to have an actual personality (beyond being soooooo pretty 
) to go with it.
Been a long time since I read these books, though. I may be misremembering things.
However, that does make me wonder how they will handle the immortality issue with Solas and Lavellan, assuming that there is even a scenario where they will be able to continue their relationship.
... what? I'm totes on topic. Shut up. 
In my playthrough, Abelas treated Solas as if he were an outsider too, I thought. Hmmm I went back and reloaded my save anyway so I am going to do the temple over again to see if I catch anything different.
I think Abelas treated everyone like an outsider until he realized that they were respectful of his culture and actually on his side. Then he was like, "these elves are all right, maybe they are like me". That's one of the reasons I like him so much.
Its hard to really say just yet, without knowing Solas's end goals are.
Without touching on anything too specifically, I would say my ultimate happy ending for Solas/Lavellan would be a sort of partnership between them. I don't think they can ever be together in a sort of conventional relationship where they get married, have kids, and linger around doing nothing. Solas is always going to be chasing something, and hopefully, its something that Lavellan can agree is a worthy cause. Maybe it is rebuilding the elven empire in a way that doesn't exclude the Dalish or the City Elves. Maybe it has more to do with protecting the world in some way.
But I would love to see them as lovers and partners. Maybe they spend time apart from time to time chasing down different leads or Solas needing to go places where Lavellan can't follow. Something active. Something where Solas has someone mortal to keep him in check and they work together to do things. Basically: an ending where Lavellan isn't excluded just because she's mortal, and Solas can keep on doing what he's doing. So long as what he's doing is beneficial, and not evil.
My ideal scenario as well. Even if standing on opposing grounds, a sort of partnership. I really wish to see Lavellan's ideals and morals intact. I don't want her to bend to him, that's really important for me. I think he's wrong, and I think they need each other to keep each other in check. It would never be conventional, it would never be easy, but a lot of important things worth keeping aren't, I guess.
I don't even need a happy ending with Solas (of course I want one, but I don't necessarily need it), I really need closure. I need to know what he's up to, what happens to him, and if he ends up dying alone.
And the end result will be him reconciling with and dying in Lavellan's arms. No longer alone, but also no longer alive...
What? Stop looking at me that way!
I do wonder if or how much any romance stuff will play out in any future content with him. If he wasn't originally a love interest, would that mean it's necessary to change his future course in some way to account for that, or will it be just done and over with since only a small portion of people were expected to experience the romance?
I'm going to force myself to do my Qunari mage run now. She'll be friendly with Solas. Still not sure if my human male will be a jackass and get Solas to hate him, but I have 90+ hours to decide.
My ideal scenario as well. Even if standing on opposing grounds, a sort of partnership. I really wish to see Lavellan's ideals and morals intact. I don't want her to bend to him, that's really important for me. I think he's wrong, and I think they need each other to keep each other in check. It would never be conventional, it would never be easy, but a lot of important things worth keeping aren't, I guess.
Totally OT, but I love your user name choice.
I don't think Solas is evil, so I hope that whatever Bioware has planned for him gives him some redemption in the end. I really hope he doesn't "die alone".
Roxy, in other threads it seems like Western Approach is broken for banter.
Also, when did a nightmare call Solas Dread Wolf?
LOL I just noticed that on another thread,thank you. What a relief lol. 
My unfettered nerdiness made me answer:
It was an issue because elves only have eternal life on Arda (the world). They can be reborn under certain circumstances (if I remember correctly), but they are tied to the world, so when they die, it is a fairly deep tragedy. I would imagine that Arwen losing her immortality might also mean a true, complete and permanent death for her, but I'm not certain. Aragorn is human. They live shorter lives in the world, but they return to Eru (the supreme deity in LotR) when they die, and live there forever. So Arwen's sacrifice is a rather serious thing, and Aragorn might be the most selfish asshat ever for letting her go through with it. He already gets his eternal life after his body dies. Though it makes for a rather pleasantly poignant love story. I only wish that Arwen got to have an actual personality (beyond being soooooo pretty
Been a long time since I read these books, though. I may be misremembering things.
However, that does make me wonder how they will handle the immortality issue with Solas and Lavellan, assuming that there is even a scenario where they will be able to continue their relationship.
... what? I'm totes on topic. Shut up.
After spending years reading endless threads about this on the LOTRO forums, I think it can be summed up as "their souls go to different places after they die".
My ideal scenario as well. Even if standing on opposing grounds, a sort of partnership. I really wish to see Lavellan's ideals and morals intact. I don't want her to bend to him, that's really important for me. I think he's wrong, and I think they need each other to keep each other in check. It would never be conventional, it would never be easy, but a lot of important things worth keeping aren't, I guess.
Yess. That actually says what I was thinking better than I did. Other than possibly convincing Solas not to go off the deep end and burninate the world, I really don't want either of them to have to change who they are. I think Solas needs someone with a mortal's perspective on things. Yes, at some point she might grow old and die. But that's life.
Are we free to talk about spoilers in here?
Solas's role and then Cole's readings of him have got my theories ablazin'!
And the end result will be him reconciling with and dying in Lavellan's arms. No longer alone, but also no longer alive...
What? Stop looking at me that way!
That's so beautifully sad 
... his greatest fear didn't come true.
I wouldn't mind an option for that to happen. Though, I also would like to see the reverse happen, Lavellan dying in Solas's arms. Because reasons.
I do wonder if or how much any romance stuff will play out in any future content with him. If he wasn't originally a love interest, would that mean it's necessary to change his future course in some way to account for that, or will it be just done and over with since only a small portion of people were expected to experience the romance?
Well he is a romance option now, and a fairly well done one as well, and there are lots of people who like this romance choice, so I think whatever the decision is, they will incorporate that one way or the other. The writer's team doesn't appear to me like a bunch of people who would just add on a romance for bonus benefits without thinking through what consequences that all might have for future story telling.
As for the rest of your post: *goes and sobs in a corner*
So I'm going to do a smut fic interrupt, mmkay?
And the end result will be him reconciling with and dying in Lavellan's arms. No longer alone, but also no longer alive...
What? Stop looking at me that way!
I do wonder if or how much any romance stuff will play out in any future content with him. If he wasn't originally a love interest, would that mean it's necessary to change his future course in some way to account for that, or will it be just done and over with since only a small portion of people were expected to experience the romance?
I'm going to force myself to do my Qunari mage run now. She'll be friendly with Solas. Still not sure if my human male will be a jackass and get Solas to hate him, but I have 90+ hours to decide.
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