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I really haven't gotten beyond Solas not dying alone and maybe Lavellan getting some answers. He definitely has some growing to do too.

 

I'm not sure he could return to Lavellan and be on her side in any capacity if he's returned to full strength. So long as he was weak and keeping a fair amount of his knowledge to himself because he had a secret to keep, he wasn't cheap as someone on the side of the heroes. As far as the story goes, he can't be both powerful and on her side. But answers I could see happening. It would be nice if he realized that she deserved them and he isn't doing anyone favors by maintaining the lies.


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I really haven't gotten beyond Solas not dying alone and maybe Lavellan getting some answers. He definitely has some growing to do too.

I'm not sure he could return to Lavellan and be on her side in any capacity if he's returned to full strength. So long as he was weak and keeping a fair amount of his knowledge to himself because he had a secret to keep, he wasn't cheap as someone on the side of the heroes. As far as the story goes, he can't be both powerful and on her side. But answers I could see happening. It would be nice if he realized that she deserved them and he isn't doing anyone favors by maintaining the lies.


I think they can be together once Quizzie is no longer the protagonist. Or together without him being a companion. Morrigan has a lot of knowledge but she's an advisor so it works out. Presumably she's filled the Warden in to (what else were they talking about in Eluvian land?)

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Ok replaying and Damn Solas def needs shoes especially in this scene just looking at it makes my Lavellan tlgiGf1.gif
 

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Thedas' Next Topmodel. Just look at that sassy walk!
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I personally just want some sort of sappy happy-ever-after to the romance. I want a nice "I'm so sorry" along with answers, then for Lavellan to become a goddess with him and everything be sunshine and happiness.

 

But, y'know, I think I'd also be okay with an "I-love-you-but-now-I'll-die-in-your-arms" ending, too. I'd be utterly destroyed, but okay with it so long as it comes organically from the story. The one thing I don't want, though, is for him to die alone. He needs to know my Lavellan is there for him if he's gonna kick the bucket. :(


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I really haven't gotten beyond Solas not dying alone and maybe Lavellan getting some answers. He definitely has some growing to do too.

 

I'm not sure he could return to Lavellan and be on her side in any capacity if he's returned to full strength. So long as he was weak and keeping a fair amount of his knowledge to himself because he had a secret to keep, he wasn't cheap as someone on the side of the heroes. As far as the story goes, he can't be both powerful and on her side. But answers I could see happening. It would be nice if he realized that she deserved them and he isn't doing anyone favors by maintaining the lies.

 

Same.  Despite being the junior, less experienced partner in the relationship, I think my Lavellan handled the whole situation at the end better than Solas.  Granted, she doesn't have his crippling guilt, isolation, and several thousand years of hang-ups, though  :D

 

If they do run into each other again, I can't see the relationship working like it did before.  Something needs to change, and TBH a lot of the inherent problems of the relationship are on Solas's side.  


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It's the "i know you're watching me and you like what you see" walk


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Yes, like one of my dogs does when she's trying to steal the treat I gave to the other one since she's gulped hers down already.


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I think they can be together once Quizzie is no longer the protagonist. Or together without him being a companion. Morrigan has a lot of knowledge but she's an advisor so it works out. Presumably she's filled the Warden in to (what else were they talking about in Eluvian land?)

 

It would be like having Flemeth around to help out all the time instead of just nudging things though. If he stays weak, it's less of a problem but he already appears to have fixed that. It's less the knowledge and more the power that's a problem - although both are unfair advantages if he's willing to put them to use for a hero. Even after the Inquisitor is no longer a protagonist, having someone like that around would be cheap.

 

Morrigan isn't really that knowledgeable though. She's frequently wrong. Although the Well is also an unfair advantage. A weirdly implemented unfair advantage that doesn't seem to provide much knowledge beyond "yup, Mythal" and "dragons lol."



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Same. Despite being the junior, less experienced partner in the relationship, I think my Lavellan handled the whole situation at the end better than Solas. Granted, she doesn't have his crippling guilt, isolation, and several thousand years of hang-ups, though :D

If they do run into each other again, I can't see the relationship working like it did before. Something needs to change, and TBH a lot of the inherent problems of the relationship are on Solas's side.


Agreed on the last part especially. I can't think of what Solas is going to do where Lavellan wouldn't just shrug it off. Not to say she would not have a reaction, but what's going to surprise her? She took finding out about Mythal pretty well. She doesn't seem to be phased by bunches of demons attacking her. She might even agree with whatever he has to do.

But he thinks that can't be true because of whatever he has going on. I hope they both mature and can get back together and still have those passionate kisses.

Also wish I knew whether DLC is going to occur during the main story or post-story. That'd ease a lot of my anxiety.
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Ughh I knowww! This is something that I am worried about!!

 

What if, he is a different person but he also goes CRAZY because it's two gods in one body and they thought that it would work but it does not!!! What if the only way to make him sane again is to find some magic or do some ritual to separate them but we don't know the consequences of the separation? What if it kills him?? Or makes him super weak and then he dies? Or what if he forgets everything? What if it doesn't work and he stays an insane biGod. Helllp!! Noooo this is all too sad. Someone protect us from this downward spiral!!!!!!!! 

 

There, there, dear.  If he ends up like this, Lavellan will simply have to find a way to flush that extra god out so he'll be back to normal.  :D


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Also wish I knew whether DLC is going to occur during the main story or post-story. That'd ease a lot of my anxiety.

 

I hope the reason why we even have the playable worldstate post-ending (which is kind of pointless as it is, IMO) is because they were planning post-story DLC to build off the Fen'Harel plot.  Corypheus turns out to be a relatively minor player, after all.


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My ideal scenario as well. Even if standing on opposing grounds, a sort of partnership. I really wish to see Lavellan's ideals and morals intact. I don't want her to bend to him, that's really important for me. I think he's wrong, and I think they need each other to keep each other in check. It would never be conventional, it would never be easy, but a lot of important things worth keeping aren't, I guess. 

Mine as well. Together and alive and having reached an understanding between them is good enough for me.

 

I don't want it to be easy, and I really don't want there to be some sort of immortality thing. They are who they are. Lavellan is an extraordinary person, but in the end she is just a person. And that is what makes her so special. Solas says it himself; "The greatest triumphs and tragedies this world has known can all be traced to people." Solas, too, is just a person. A person who is sometimes selfish, afraid, and flawed. I want an ending that shows them becoming equal partners, with Lavellan knowing everything and having a choice about what to do about it (the choice that she didn't get in the main game).

 

And I don't think the romance needs to end tragically to be poignant. A confrontation over their ideals ending in a reconciliation and acceptance of one another would be beautiful. Not necessarily a "happy forever", but a "happy for now". Not sickly-sweet, but heartwarming and uplifting and earned. Because sometimes, after getting the crap kicked out of you for so long, you really need something to go right.


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SWAG.

 

I think I'm getting sick and it's making me loopy. I have literally been pretending to work while typing up press releases and all of a sudden I just burst out laughing after reading something one of you wrote and people are just like wtf is your childhood trauma today, Jessica?!


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I hope the reason why we even have the playable worldstate post-ending (which is kind of pointless as it is, IMO) is because they were planning post-story DLC to build off the Fen'Harel plot.  Corypheus turns out to be a relatively minor player, after all.

 

I agree, it would also explain why (in many cases) the majority if not all of your companions stay at Skyhold. 



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I just want him to tell her the truth and honetstly I wouldn´t be opposed to a bittersweet ending, as long as the writing retains its quality and everything :) But I suspect Nahal here wouldn´t like bittersweet quite as much :lol:

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I hope the reason why we even have the playable worldstate post-ending (which is kind of pointless as it is, IMO) is because they were planning post-story DLC to build off the Fen'Harel plot. Corypheus turns out to be a relatively minor player, after all.


I hope so too, but from a business standpoint it's kind of weird. A lot of people don't play paid-DLC and view it as "extra". So usually companies offer DLC that has a separate story that is only tangentially related. Even Legacy isn't really necessary to understanding DA:I.

But the Solas/Mythal deal is a BIG THING. Big enough that it overshadows Coryphefish. If they resolve that outside of the core game I can see a lot of people being angry, feeling like they paid for the "whole story" buy buying DA:I (not me, but I've heard this argument before)

Or is BW taking a different route and trying to make everything more integrated (would explain why there were so many book cameos in DA:I)?

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My Lavellan and Solas will be together fooooreeeeeveeer "-" *says in creepy childish voice*

Also, don't know why Solas and Lavellan's relationship has me thinking of this poem, but it does.

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Now I have shivers, Poe's writing gives me the creeps XD the good kind though.

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It would be like having Flemeth around to help out all the time instead of just nudging things though. If he stays weak, it's less of a problem but he already appears to have fixed that. It's less the knowledge and more the power that's a problem - although both are unfair advantages if he's willing to put them to use for a hero. Even after the Inquisitor is no longer a protagonist, having someone like that around would be cheap.

 

Morrigan isn't really that knowledgeable though. She's frequently wrong. Although the Well is also an unfair advantage. A weirdly implemented unfair advantage that doesn't seem to provide much knowledge beyond "yup, Mythal" and "dragons lol."

 

What about if, in order to be with her, he has to give up all his power?  I would be okay with that if that choice was presented.


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What about if, in order to be with her, he has to give up all his power?  I would be okay with that if that choice was presented.

 

Including his immortality... interesting. Such a huge sacrifice to be with Lavellan. *swoons*


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I hope so too, but from a business standpoint it's kind of weird. A lot of people don't play paid-DLC and view it as "extra". So usually companies offer DLC that has a separate story that is only tangentially related. Even Legacy isn't really necessary to understanding DA:I.

But the Solas/Mythal deal is a BIG THING. Big enough that it overshadows Coryphefish. If they resolve that outside of the core game I can see a lot of people being angry, feeling like they paid for the "whole story" buy buying DA:I (not me, but I've heard this argument before)

Or is BW taking a different route and trying to make everything more integrated (would explain why there were so many book cameos in DA:I)?

 

It seems to me like Bioware is making the expansions/dlc's more important to future games than previous "base" game were.

 

1) Awakenings had a lot more to do with DA2 than any of DA:O did (Anders+Justice)

2) DA2:Legacy introduced Corypheus

 

So at this point, if Solas is going to be a major plot point in DA4, I expect that a DLC has to be focused on him.



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He would, maybe.

 

Immortals go one of two ways.

 

1- Would never in a million years give up the power and long ass life because they are -afraid- of being powerless/dying/etc.

 

or

 

2- Would gladly embrace it because living a long time is very, very tiring. It's a heavy thing, I think. Maybe some would willingly give that up. 


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I hope so too, but from a business standpoint it's kind of weird. A lot of people don't play paid-DLC and view it as "extra". So usually companies offer DLC that has a separate story that is only tangentially related. Even Legacy isn't really necessary to understanding DA:I.

But the Solas/Mythal deal is a BIG THING. Big enough that it overshadows Coryphefish. If they resolve that outside of the core game I can see a lot of people being angry, feeling like they paid for the "whole story" buy buying DA:I (not me, but I've heard this argument before)

Or is BW taking a different route and trying to make everything more integrated (would explain why there were so many book cameos in DA:I)?

This makes sense and makes me think probably there won't be a DLC for Solas... but perhaps an Awakening style expansion instead? I feel people tend to see expansions as almost games in themselves (smaller, less expensive games) and that if you don't buy them, obviously you're going to miss out on something major plot-wise

 

Also if we have Awakening's style expansion... more opportunity for Solas romance than if it'd been the length of a DLC :P



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He would, maybe.

 

Immortals go one of two ways.

 

1- Would never in a million years give up the power and long ass life because they are -afraid- of being powerless/dying/etc.

 

or

 

2- Would gladly embrace it because living a long time is very, very tiring. It's a heavy thing, I think. Maybe some would willingly give that up. 

 

BUT!

 

Solas's biggest fear is dying alone. So giving up his immortality to be with Lavellan would be the way to prevent that from happening.

 

Squeee!