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[RynJ]

With over 30% of people romances being Solas I think Bioware will be nicer to us than they were with Thane or Anders

 

*snip*

 

Mmm, if they were paying extra attention to the BSN, maybe. Remember that Solas' numbers will be significantly lower among the whole player base, if not the lowest.

 

But that's alright, because he'll always be number one in our hearts! 

 

*goes shamefully back to stare at that piece of art. you all know which one I'm talking about*

[Brass_Buckles]

With over 30% of people romances being Solas I think Bioware will be nicer to us than they were with Thane or Anders

 

 

Even if he's at the top of the polls for best romance, that doesn't mean they will necessarily be "nicer" to us about it.  Maybe we will get more content, but that doesn't mean it will end well.  We may regret having Solas be so popular, in the end...

 

And now I sound all dark and brooding and depressing.  My point is simply this:  The writers LOVE their fan tears.  I think they take them like daily multivitamins or something.  I'd love for there to be a potential happy ending, depending on your actions, though.  It'd be nice if there's a DLC where all the relationships, companions, etc. have a little extra (more for everyone, yay!), and we get to deal with Solas at long last post-game.  Then depending on our actions and what we said to him, it could either end very well or very poorly for our Lavellans.

[Sine_Amore]

I have no idea if this has been shared yet seeing as how I just joined yesterday evening, but I especially love this theory from reddit:

 

Spoiler

'The elven gods weren’t truly gods. Maybe they were powerful nobles, rulers, leaders. But they had god-like status among their people, which is enough (imagine inverted commas around the word god in the rest of this). And of course they were immortal like the rest of the ancient elves. I think all of the ancient elves were mages (Solas tells us that magic was as natural to the ancient elves as breathing).

The society of the ancient elves isn’t what the Dalish think it was. They idealize, romanticize and cling to it because so much has been lost to time. From TME we know there was classism and the keeping of slaves. Never mistake the Dalish for true arbiters of elven culture.

The elven gods ruled over their subjects/worshippers/slaves in a not-great way, even the so-called good “Creators”. Nobles marked the faces of their slaves to show which god they followed. Andruil had periods where she descended into madness, and she was a godess of sacrifice. Elgar’nan was possessed of an all-consuming rage. Ghilan’nain destroyed the creatures she had created with her power - all but the halla - in order that the gods would ascend her to godhood. Falon’din’s appetite for adulation was so great, he began wars to amass more worshippers. The blood of those who wouldn’t bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans. Mythal rallied the gods, once the shadow of Falon’din’s hunter stretched across her own people. It was almost too late. Falon’din only surrendered when his bretheren bloodied him in his own temple. There’s something about Dirthamen and dodgy blood magic too iirc. At times the gods warred among themselves - apart from Falon’din and Mythal above, Andruil and Mythal have also fought for example. I can imagine this warring extending to their followers. Solas says ‘But if you remove the layer of nostalgia from stories of the elven gods, you might see the danger. They were arrogant and fickle. They warred amongst themselves. They had feuds, vendettas.’ And at some point Mythal was murdered for some reason. So not an ideal society at all (this isn’t even getting started on the Forgotten Ones, who may have been even worse). ‘Because while one selfless woman may walk away from the lure of power’s corruption… No group has ever done so.’, says Solas. He walked away from the lure of power’s corruption, but the other gods were corrupted by it. And this is why Fen’Harel rebelled.

Fen’Harel is a god of rebellion, not trickery. The ancient root words of “harellan” mean “struggle” and “noble opposition”. Alone out of all the gods, Fen’Harel did not approve of how they ruled over the People. He wanted the People to be free from tyranny. He's big on freedom - notice how he hates the lack of freedom under the Qun etc. He thought he had a good idea of how to solve the problem - and indeed to him it must have felt like the only way. He tricked both groups of gods and sealed them away, made them fall asleep, in a realm beyond, reached via Eluvian. All but Mythal, who either was already dead (only to surface later of course, as we know the spirit of Mythal came to join with a human woman) or who had already come back as Flemythal and wanted vengeance and so joined Fen’Harel in his plotting. Solas both in romance dialogue and in dialogue with non-elf inquisitors that he disapproves of makes reference to how he knows the mistake of trusting so well that he could carve her face, how it’s been so long that he had a [non-spirit] friend that he could trust, etc. Either one of the other gods betrayed him, or he felt betrayed by the way they ruled over the rest of the elves, perhaps.

Morrigan tells us Eluvians can be opened and locked and each one has a key. In elven history, orbs called foci were used to channel the power of the gods. They were usually associated with a member of the pantheon, and required a great deal of energy to unlock. Fen’Harel used his foci to lock the rest of the gods away in an Eluvian. That orb is the key to re-opening that Eluvian. After doing so, he went to sleep, uthenera. He must have been very tired from expending the energy needed to use the orb. He may also have been very sad. He did what he did for the greater good of the People, but he couldn’t escape the way doing what he did must have felt. He had just banished all the rest of his kind from the world and was now alone. Dying alone is his greatest fear. Wolves are pack animals, after all. The pain and sadness was such that he preferred to fall into a slumber than exist alone.

Unfortunately, his plan backfired. Abelas tells us that it wasn’t the Imperium that destroyed the culture of the ancient elves - the ancient elves destroyed themselves. Without their Creators they descended into war and destroyed themselves. Without their Creators they were further destroyed by humans. Long after this happened, Fen’Harel awoke. In horror he realized what he had done, what his actions had caused - elves are now enslaved in Tevinter, subjugated in alienages, persecuted and killed by humans, or wandering the wilds as but shadows of their former glory, clinging to scraps of the past and being seriously mistaken about ancient elven lore. He wanted to free them, but thanks to what he did, they’ve virtually lost everything. Their history, power, culture, immortality and widespread aptitude for magic. Crystal spires twining through the branches, palaces among the clouds, spells that took years to weave and once created joined older magics in an unending symphony - that was what was lost. This is not what he wanted. He regrets sorely what he did and references this in dialogue - a mistake made by a younger elf. He tried to make things better by sharing his knowledge with modern elves (the Dalish) but as we hear from him in dialogue they turned him away, called him mad, wrong, flatear, etc. It makes him think that the modern elves aren’t his people, the ancient ones are. All of this is a huge part of why Solas is filled with such quiet sadness and loneliness, and a huge part of what Cole senses when he touches Solas’ mind and sees the pain there. A pain that he [Cole] can’t heal, Solas tells him.

Fen’Harel wanted to right his wrong, fix his mistake. He tried to use his orb to unlock the Eluvian and let the elven gods back into the world, but he was too weak when he awoke. Desperate, he gave the orb to Corypheus, since Corypheus had enough power to activate it. I suspect he gave it to Cory because he was the only being he was aware of with enough power to do so. Cory is an ancient being too after all. This as we know inadvertently caused the explosion.

It’s kind of ironic because Cory too awoke from slumber and found the world gone awry.

Solas joins the Inquisition to fix this second great mistake, and retrieve the orb. And fix it they do - they seal the Breach and defeat Corypheus. But the orb lies broken and Solas is distraught, because it was the key to releasing the others.

He returns to Mythal. He should pay the price for his mistakes, and/or the “price” of what will be needed now to open the Eluvian - what that is I cannot say. But the People - the elves - he thinks they need him. His intentions now are to find another way to carry out his plans of unleashing the gods again.

I’m not clear on what happens in the final scene. Either Flemythal is sorry because of what she’s about to do him - possess his body - (though I think this is unlikely since he speaks to Lavellan through Cole after this occurs) or he’s sorry for failing and for what HE’S about to do which is kill Flemythal and take her power. This power will help him in his quest to unleash the gods and Flemythal in this scenario isn’t truly dead because 1) she’s Flemythal, powerful, a DA staple and 2) she probably has another Horcrux thing somewhere. OR they’re both just sorry at everything that’s happened and the poor state of the elves, and Flemythal willingly gives him her power.

An optional variation on this theory is this: Solas is in a similar situation to Flemeth. That is, he isn’t strictly Fen’Harel, but carries the spirit of the Dread Wolf with him as Flemeth carries Mythal’s. Solas tells us he grew up in a village to the north and as a young man wandered the Fade. Leliana’s spies find centuries-old ruins of this village, so it was a real place. Centuries ago, the young Solas was wandering the Fade and interacting with spirits as he was wont to do, and encountered the spirit of Fen’Harel and decided to join with it.

I think as well what he did may have changed the way the world works in terms of magic, spirits, the Fade. He speaks to us of a vision he has - if the Fade was not a place one went but a state of nature, like the wind. Spirits would enter freely and be as common as grass or trees, imagination would define reality. When everything sang the same. This isn’t just a vision he has, but what once was, and what he wishes a return to. Locking the gods away changed things, so great was the link between ancient elves and magic/spirits/etc. Yavana speaks of a time before the Veil, before the mysteries were forgotten…

he hurts, an old pain from before, when everything sang the same

you’re real and it means everyone could be real

it changes everything but it can’t

they sleep, masked in the mirror, hiding, hurting, and to wake them…

He’s in so much pain, an ancient pain. He wants to right what he thinks was a wrong and put things back the way they were. Alone among all the elves of modern Thedas, Lavellan is different, Lavellan listens to him share his knowledge, Lavellan is unique and world-changing and a magnificent spirit, she’s too bright, like counting birds against the sun, the mark makes her more and yet it wasn’t what made her this way - maybe he’s misjudged the Dalish after all. She changes everything - if there can still be elves like her, maybe the gods don’t need to return to the world. But it can’t. He has to do it. He has to fix his mistake and bring them back. He says passion lets people attach import to trivial things and that people wish to accomplish truly great things on their own, and that the wise must sometimes give people what they need, not what they want. Consider those words and his relationship with Lavellan.

solas, bright and sad, observes and accepts. spirit self, seeing the soul, solas, but somehow sorrows

some cole/solas dialogue:

cole: you dont need to envy me solas. you can find happiness in your own way

solas: i apologize for disturbing you cole. i am not a spirit. sometimes it is hard to remember such simple truths.

cole: they are not gone so long as you remember them

solas: i know

cole: but you could let them go

solas: i know that as well

cole: you didnt do it to be right, you did it to save them

inquiz: solas what is cole talking about?

solas: a mistake. one made by a much younger elf who was certain he knew everything

cole: you werent wrong though

solas: thank you cole

Solas means pride or to stand tall in elvish. He took this name to remind himself of what his pride has wrought (the pride he used to have as a younger elf who thought he had the answer).

source

obviously it will be slightly different if you played an inquisitor that didnt romance solas but the rest of it would remain

INPUT WELCOME and sorry this post was a bit scrappily written/formatted

 

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[Aviena]

But then why would Solas disapprove if you choose to make him more human?

 

Perhaps because Solas regrets becoming less spirit-y himself? There's another banter that gets me as well:

 

Spoiler

Cole: You don't need to envy me, Solas. You can find happiness in your own way.

Solas: I apologise for disturbing you, Cole. I am not a spirit, and sometimes it is hard to remember such simple truths.

 

EDIT:

 

Also, if you make Cole more human:

 

Spoiler

Cole: ...I can't let that go. I have to become more, let it make me real.

Solas: You may well become *fully* human after all. I never thought to see it.

Cole: When did you see it before?

Solas: I did not say that I had.

 

(Emphasis mine).

 

EDIT AGAIN!:

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Perhaps Solas walking the line between the physical and the Fade is how he "could walk without fear among both our gods and the Forgotten Ones". Perhaps the Forgotten ones were very powerful beings of the physical plane, and the Elvhen panthenon very powerful beings of the Fade?

[Brass_Buckles]

But then why would Solas disapprove if you choose to make him more human?

 

Because Solas sees that spirits are more pure than people.  Spirits can forgive things even when humans can't.  And a spirit of compassion like Cole is, is very, very rare.

 

I have a weird theory that, while spirits do reflect the minds of mortals in the real world, the real world also reflects what kind of spirits exist in the Fade.  If this is a fact or even a theory that Solas knows of, he doesn't share it.  And yet he's very insistent that every spirit of wisdom, compassion, faith, etc. is very important to preserve.  The best reason I can think of for that is that simply by existing they influence humanity, even as humanity gives them form and purpose.  Should these good spirits cease to exist, or their natures change... it might bode ill for people in the real world, who lose their faith, compassion, etc.

 

It also may be because it forcibly tells Solas that, whatever it is that he is, he can also choose to change, become more "human," as it were.  Solas is also at a crossroads, and I think we've discussed the theory that he might be possessed by a spirit, or something stronger but similar to a spirit, as well.  It seems likely he began his life as just another elf, if perhaps high-born.  It would be why Solas seems torn between wisdom and pride, himself, and why he has such a strong attraction to wisdom in friends and (potential) lovers.

[Sable Rhapsody]

But then why would Solas disapprove if you choose to make him more human?

 

I think this has less to do with Cole specifically and more with Solas's worldview.  He's grim and fatalistic, and doesn't seem to think people can change their essential natures.  It's why he pushes for Cole to realize that he's a spirit and not try to become something else.

 

He's also very wary of attempting to alter a spirit's purpose; in his mind, that's a sure path to demon-tude.

[Birdy]

NSFW  >.>

http://dragonage-kin...28523#t45628523

[Renmiri1]

Mmm, if they were paying extra attention to the BSN, maybe. Remember that Solas' numbers will be significantly lower among the whole player base, if not the lowest.

 

But that's alright, because he'll always be number one in our hearts! 

 

*goes shamefully back to stare at that piece of art. you all know which one I'm talking about*

But top among those who get an LI

 

A lot of people don't pick an LI

[Renmiri1]

BTW, I could Swear Pat Benatar is a Solasmancer

 

 

 

Your love is like a tidal wave, spinning over my head
Drownin' me in your promises, better left unsaid
You're the right kind of sinner to release my inner fantasy
The invincible winner and you know that you were born to be

You're a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don't you mess around with me
You're a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don't you mess around, no, no, no

Your love has set my soul on fire, burnin' out of control
You taught me the ways of desire, now it's takin' its toll
You're the right kind of sinner to release my inner fantasy
The invincible winner and you know that you were born to be

You're a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don't you mess around with me
You're a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don't you mess around, no, no, no

[chibielf]

Some Abelas fanfiction on the kink meme. Not finished but wonderfully written so far.

http://dragonage-kin...68344#t46368344

[zambixi]

I had thought so, too, and I agree on the worrying that it changed her.  But, I also think that he pauses before saying "spirit," like he's searching for the right word.  He could just say "soul."  We know how he feels about the Fade and spirits, though...

/snip/

 

I thought "spirit" was a deliberate choice too. It's not like he's normally inarticulate: I think if he had meant "soul" he would have used "soul". Spirit seems like it would mean something specific coming from him. What that is...I have no idea

 

Even if he's at the top of the polls for best romance, that doesn't mean they will necessarily be "nicer" to us about it.  Maybe we will get more content, but that doesn't mean it will end well.  We may regret having Solas be so popular, in the end...

 

And now I sound all dark and brooding and depressing.  My point is simply this:  The writers LOVE their fan tears.  I think they take them like daily multivitamins or something.  I'd love for there to be a potential happy ending, depending on your actions, though.  It'd be nice if there's a DLC where all the relationships, companions, etc. have a little extra (more for everyone, yay!), and we get to deal with Solas at long last post-game.  Then depending on our actions and what we said to him, it could either end very well or very poorly for our Lavellans.

 

I think this is a bit unfair. The writers like writing a good story for the medium. People have shown that they don't like unavoidable tragedy and they don't find that to be a satisfying story (Thane definitely, Anders a little, Jacob a little). People don't like being shoe-horned into bad situations, it's not empowering in a game that is supposedly all about choice. So I don't think that they set out to write a story that will make people sad, unless they feel they can make it meaningful.

 

Having the build up of Solas' relationship, having him break up while leaving a sliver of hope, and then having that hope crushed because he becomes an antagonist or the relationship is impossible...I just find it a bit weird...? His romance is so good to me not because it doesn't end well in this game, but because every time I go through it feels so genuine and so not over. I know what the ending is but I keep thinking maybe it will be different (not literally, I'm not that delusional. But I feel it). I don't feel that way about Thane's arc -- I've never touched that playthrough again. If there's a "happy" ending that makes sense, I think we'll get the option for it. I have faith in Weekes!!

 

 

But top among those who get an LI

 

A lot of people don't pick an LI

 

I'd be interested to see how many F!Lavellan's pick Solas. They have the most LI options - everyone but Dorian and Cass - so I wonder how many of them put Solas above the others. Cullen would probably do well too.

[DragonRacer]

I have no idea if this has been shared yet seeing as how I just joined yesterday evening, but I especially love this theory from reddit:

 

Spoiler

'The elven gods weren’t truly gods. Maybe they were powerful nobles, rulers, leaders. But they had god-like status among their people, which is enough (imagine inverted commas around the word god in the rest of this). And of course they were immortal like the rest of the ancient elves. I think all of the ancient elves were mages (Solas tells us that magic was as natural to the ancient elves as breathing).

The society of the ancient elves isn’t what the Dalish think it was. They idealize, romanticize and cling to it because so much has been lost to time. From TME we know there was classism and the keeping of slaves. Never mistake the Dalish for true arbiters of elven culture.

The elven gods ruled over their subjects/worshippers/slaves in a not-great way, even the so-called good “Creators”. Nobles marked the faces of their slaves to show which god they followed. Andruil had periods where she descended into madness, and she was a godess of sacrifice. Elgar’nan was possessed of an all-consuming rage. Ghilan’nain destroyed the creatures she had created with her power - all but the halla - in order that the gods would ascend her to godhood. Falon’din’s appetite for adulation was so great, he began wars to amass more worshippers. The blood of those who wouldn’t bow low filled lakes as wide as oceans. Mythal rallied the gods, once the shadow of Falon’din’s hunter stretched across her own people. It was almost too late. Falon’din only surrendered when his bretheren bloodied him in his own temple. There’s something about Dirthamen and dodgy blood magic too iirc. At times the gods warred among themselves - apart from Falon’din and Mythal above, Andruil and Mythal have also fought for example. I can imagine this warring extending to their followers. Solas says ‘But if you remove the layer of nostalgia from stories of the elven gods, you might see the danger. They were arrogant and fickle. They warred amongst themselves. They had feuds, vendettas.’ And at some point Mythal was murdered for some reason. So not an ideal society at all (this isn’t even getting started on the Forgotten Ones, who may have been even worse). ‘Because while one selfless woman may walk away from the lure of power’s corruption… No group has ever done so.’, says Solas. He walked away from the lure of power’s corruption, but the other gods were corrupted by it. And this is why Fen’Harel rebelled.

Fen’Harel is a god of rebellion, not trickery. The ancient root words of “harellan” mean “struggle” and “noble opposition”. Alone out of all the gods, Fen’Harel did not approve of how they ruled over the People. He wanted the People to be free from tyranny. He's big on freedom - notice how he hates the lack of freedom under the Qun etc. He thought he had a good idea of how to solve the problem - and indeed to him it must have felt like the only way. He tricked both groups of gods and sealed them away, made them fall asleep, in a realm beyond, reached via Eluvian. All but Mythal, who either was already dead (only to surface later of course, as we know the spirit of Mythal came to join with a human woman) or who had already come back as Flemythal and wanted vengeance and so joined Fen’Harel in his plotting. Solas both in romance dialogue and in dialogue with non-elf inquisitors that he disapproves of makes reference to how he knows the mistake of trusting so well that he could carve her face, how it’s been so long that he had a [non-spirit] friend that he could trust, etc. Either one of the other gods betrayed him, or he felt betrayed by the way they ruled over the rest of the elves, perhaps.

Morrigan tells us Eluvians can be opened and locked and each one has a key. In elven history, orbs called foci were used to channel the power of the gods. They were usually associated with a member of the pantheon, and required a great deal of energy to unlock. Fen’Harel used his foci to lock the rest of the gods away in an Eluvian. That orb is the key to re-opening that Eluvian. After doing so, he went to sleep, uthenera. He must have been very tired from expending the energy needed to use the orb. He may also have been very sad. He did what he did for the greater good of the People, but he couldn’t escape the way doing what he did must have felt. He had just banished all the rest of his kind from the world and was now alone. Dying alone is his greatest fear. Wolves are pack animals, after all. The pain and sadness was such that he preferred to fall into a slumber than exist alone.

Unfortunately, his plan backfired. Abelas tells us that it wasn’t the Imperium that destroyed the culture of the ancient elves - the ancient elves destroyed themselves. Without their Creators they descended into war and destroyed themselves. Without their Creators they were further destroyed by humans. Long after this happened, Fen’Harel awoke. In horror he realized what he had done, what his actions had caused - elves are now enslaved in Tevinter, subjugated in alienages, persecuted and killed by humans, or wandering the wilds as but shadows of their former glory, clinging to scraps of the past and being seriously mistaken about ancient elven lore. He wanted to free them, but thanks to what he did, they’ve virtually lost everything. Their history, power, culture, immortality and widespread aptitude for magic. Crystal spires twining through the branches, palaces among the clouds, spells that took years to weave and once created joined older magics in an unending symphony - that was what was lost. This is not what he wanted. He regrets sorely what he did and references this in dialogue - a mistake made by a younger elf. He tried to make things better by sharing his knowledge with modern elves (the Dalish) but as we hear from him in dialogue they turned him away, called him mad, wrong, flatear, etc. It makes him think that the modern elves aren’t his people, the ancient ones are. All of this is a huge part of why Solas is filled with such quiet sadness and loneliness, and a huge part of what Cole senses when he touches Solas’ mind and sees the pain there. A pain that he [Cole] can’t heal, Solas tells him.

Fen’Harel wanted to right his wrong, fix his mistake. He tried to use his orb to unlock the Eluvian and let the elven gods back into the world, but he was too weak when he awoke. Desperate, he gave the orb to Corypheus, since Corypheus had enough power to activate it. I suspect he gave it to Cory because he was the only being he was aware of with enough power to do so. Cory is an ancient being too after all. This as we know inadvertently caused the explosion.

It’s kind of ironic because Cory too awoke from slumber and found the world gone awry.

Solas joins the Inquisition to fix this second great mistake, and retrieve the orb. And fix it they do - they seal the Breach and defeat Corypheus. But the orb lies broken and Solas is distraught, because it was the key to releasing the others.

He returns to Mythal. He should pay the price for his mistakes, and/or the “price” of what will be needed now to open the Eluvian - what that is I cannot say. But the People - the elves - he thinks they need him. His intentions now are to find another way to carry out his plans of unleashing the gods again.

I’m not clear on what happens in the final scene. Either Flemythal is sorry because of what she’s about to do him - possess his body - (though I think this is unlikely since he speaks to Lavellan through Cole after this occurs) or he’s sorry for failing and for what HE’S about to do which is kill Flemythal and take her power. This power will help him in his quest to unleash the gods and Flemythal in this scenario isn’t truly dead because 1) she’s Flemythal, powerful, a DA staple and 2) she probably has another Horcrux thing somewhere. OR they’re both just sorry at everything that’s happened and the poor state of the elves, and Flemythal willingly gives him her power.

An optional variation on this theory is this: Solas is in a similar situation to Flemeth. That is, he isn’t strictly Fen’Harel, but carries the spirit of the Dread Wolf with him as Flemeth carries Mythal’s. Solas tells us he grew up in a village to the north and as a young man wandered the Fade. Leliana’s spies find centuries-old ruins of this village, so it was a real place. Centuries ago, the young Solas was wandering the Fade and interacting with spirits as he was wont to do, and encountered the spirit of Fen’Harel and decided to join with it.

I think as well what he did may have changed the way the world works in terms of magic, spirits, the Fade. He speaks to us of a vision he has - if the Fade was not a place one went but a state of nature, like the wind. Spirits would enter freely and be as common as grass or trees, imagination would define reality. When everything sang the same. This isn’t just a vision he has, but what once was, and what he wishes a return to. Locking the gods away changed things, so great was the link between ancient elves and magic/spirits/etc. Yavana speaks of a time before the Veil, before the mysteries were forgotten…

he hurts, an old pain from before, when everything sang the same

you’re real and it means everyone could be real

it changes everything but it can’t

they sleep, masked in the mirror, hiding, hurting, and to wake them…

He’s in so much pain, an ancient pain. He wants to right what he thinks was a wrong and put things back the way they were. Alone among all the elves of modern Thedas, Lavellan is different, Lavellan listens to him share his knowledge, Lavellan is unique and world-changing and a magnificent spirit, she’s too bright, like counting birds against the sun, the mark makes her more and yet it wasn’t what made her this way - maybe he’s misjudged the Dalish after all. She changes everything - if there can still be elves like her, maybe the gods don’t need to return to the world. But it can’t. He has to do it. He has to fix his mistake and bring them back. He says passion lets people attach import to trivial things and that people wish to accomplish truly great things on their own, and that the wise must sometimes give people what they need, not what they want. Consider those words and his relationship with Lavellan.

solas, bright and sad, observes and accepts. spirit self, seeing the soul, solas, but somehow sorrows

some cole/solas dialogue:

cole: you dont need to envy me solas. you can find happiness in your own way

solas: i apologize for disturbing you cole. i am not a spirit. sometimes it is hard to remember such simple truths.

cole: they are not gone so long as you remember them

solas: i know

cole: but you could let them go

solas: i know that as well

cole: you didnt do it to be right, you did it to save them

inquiz: solas what is cole talking about?

solas: a mistake. one made by a much younger elf who was certain he knew everything

cole: you werent wrong though

solas: thank you cole

Solas means pride or to stand tall in elvish. He took this name to remind himself of what his pride has wrought (the pride he used to have as a younger elf who thought he had the answer).

source

obviously it will be slightly different if you played an inquisitor that didnt romance solas but the rest of it would remain

INPUT WELCOME and sorry this post was a bit scrappily written/formatted

 

http://www.reddit.co...whats_going_on/

 

Irony: that was actually made by our very own Solas (the thread OP, not the elf we're all sobbing over).

[RebbyWriter]

What should I be doing? Studying for finals.

 

What am I actually doing? Making Solas fanart.

 

Also inspired to make an Abelas work. You freaking elves and the freaking spells you cast upon meee! *shakes fist in air*

[CardinalSin90]

Love this!

Spoiler

http://mellorianjart...nna-do-with-you

Linking another picture because reasons http://mellorianjart...ooooooooooooooo

[amranthe]

Some Abelas fanfiction on the kink meme. Not finished but wonderfully written so far.

http://dragonage-kin...68344#t46368344

 

Maker, you guys have ruined me. I used to swear I would never, never read fanfic. But my sadness after Solas leaving has left me vulnerable.

 

On the bright side I am impressed at how well written some of it is. Like, really impressed. I hope some of these people actually make money on their writing (not necessarily the fanfics but you know)

[kalasaurus]

I love making new Lavellans for Solas.  I'm trying to make an archer that looks like Liv Tyler... and struggling, though >.>

[Aviena]

I suck at this character creator. I get to the jail scene and I'm HORRIFIED by protruding lips or ugly makeup or massive underbites.... every time. 

[Sine_Amore]

Irony: that was actually made by our very own Solas (the thread OP, not the elf we're all sobbing over).

Well I'm glad I found my way to it! I had looked over the first post of this thread quite a few times, but I hadn't quite made it through everything posted. I gotta keep up with the thread itself, haha.

 

Sorry for the--most likely--repost. n.n But it deserves even a second or third read, in my opinion.

[sunhair]

NSFW  >.>

http://dragonage-kin...28523#t45628523

[Brass_Buckles]

I just made a new Lavellan, too.  She's a harder, less kind one than adorable, sweet-natured Uth'shiral.  Her face is longer and leaner.  I kind of wanted to evoke a white wolf with her, but I went with the palest blonde hair, which may actually be gray?  Anyway.  She's not a traditional beauty and I actually like that.  She looks fierce.  Maybe I should've made her a rogue or a warrior instead of a mage... Well, she's going knight-enchanter, Uth'shiral was rift mage.

[CardinalSin90]

I keep reading fan fiction to fill the void.Damn you Solas. Smut is a nice side benefit but yeah this no closure is driving me insane >.<

[Renmiri1]

I just made a new Lavellan, too.  She's a harder, less kind one than adorable, sweet-natured Uth'shiral.  Her face is longer and leaner.  I kind of wanted to evoke a white wolf with her, but I went with the palest blonde hair, which may actually be gray?  Anyway.  She's not a traditional beauty and I actually like that.  She looks fierce.  Maybe I should've made her a rogue or a warrior instead of a mage... Well, she's going knight-enchanter, Uth'shiral was rift mage.

out of likes -.-

 

I made me a warrior and Solas as already said he enjoys my Lavellan's muscles     

 

Though he did say he enjoys the agility of my male rogue Inquisitor (why doesn't Solas like men ? Isn't he all aboiut "spirit" ? Spirits have no gender)

[Brass_Buckles]

out of likes -.-

 

I made me a warrior and Solas as already said he enjoys my Lavellan's muscles     

 

Though he did say he enjoys the agility of my male rogue Inquisitor (why doesn't Solas like men ? Isn't he all aboiut "spirit" ? Spirits have no gender)

 

Only thing I can think of is, Solas is just plain old straight.  Just doesn't find guys attractive.  He may like spirits, but that doesn't mean he IS a spirit.

 

Edited to add:  By which I mean, he himself is a physical being.  And we mere mortals do have preferences about who / what to be with.

[d4eaming]

I haven't done his romance, just wanna say the last two pages were a fantastic palate cleanser after the dozen pages of Dalish hate and "they deserved to be destroyed" crapolla I just read. Ugh. They made mistakes, of course they did, but the descendants of those people that made mistakes don't deserve to be destroyed or have their culture made illegal over it. The game makes it clear that not all Dalish are xenophobic jerks (the Lavellan clan the prominent example- my boy certainly isn't xenophobic, just cautious) but the "elf appreciation thread" turned into elf-bashing is just painful to read.

 

Kinda mad at Bioware for giving the elf-haters so much juicy lore to use to justify elf hate- but at the same time, I appreciate the added dimension to their lore and the fact the Dalish are given a chance to start making amends for their side of the whole thing. Some people take that to mean the Dalish are evil and deserve to be wiped out. They are my favorite part of DA lore, and it makes my heart hurt.

Someone in that thread suggested Solas' appreciation thread to be the place to go for elf support, so here I am even though it isn't the primary goal of the thread.

 

That said, I do adore Solas even if he disproves of my boy's Dalish pride. They still became friends, and I love his character. My elf hasn't learned about the massive Dalish screw ups yet though. I imagine he'll have a bit of a crises when that happens (no idea if the game gives dialogue options for playing that out).

 

I don't know if I will get a female Lavellan to see Solas' romance, but as a friend to my Inquisitor, he's a fantastic foil.

[Brass_Buckles]

I haven't done his romance, just wanna say the last two pages were a fantastic palate cleanser after the dozen pages of Dalish hate and "they deserved to be destroyed" crapolla I just read. Ugh. They made mistakes, of course they did, but the descendants of those people that made mistakes don't deserve to be destroyed or have their culture made illegal over it. The game makes it clear that not all Dalish are xenophobic jerks (the Lavellan clan the prominent example- my boy certainly isn't xenophobic, just cautious) but the "elf appreciation thread" turned into elf-bashing is just painful to read.

 

Kinda mad at Bioware for giving the elf-haters so much juicy lore to use to justify elf hate- but at the same time, I appreciate the added dimension to their lore and the fact the Dalish are given a chance to start making amends for their side of the whole thing. Some people take that to mean the Dalish are evil and deserve to be wiped out. They are my favorite part of DA lore, and it makes my heart hurt.

Someone in that thread suggested Solas' appreciation thread to be the place to go for elf support, so here I am even though it isn't the primary goal of the thread.

 

That said, I do adore Solas even if he disproves of my boy's Dalish pride. They still became friends, and I love his character. My elf hasn't learned about the massive Dalish screw ups yet though. I imagine he'll have a bit of a crises when that happens (no idea if the game gives dialogue options for playing that out).

 

I don't know if I will get a female Lavellan to see Solas' romance, but as a friend to my Inquisitor, he's a fantastic foil.

 

I would argue that it's also true that the humans/Chantry royally screwed up, too, but then I am not sure what thread you've seen all the Dalish hate in.