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(to Ajna) No, they are rather short.

 

Essentially, Solas mentions that "some people" believe Andruil to be a goddess of sacrifice.

 

The one with Falodin is slightly longer but Solas basically calls him so vain that he wanted as many followers as possible and spilled an enormous amount of blood when someone refused to convert. It only seemed to stop when he started encroaching on Mythal's territory and she went mythic on his arse (or so I assume. From what we learn, she sounds like a woman you don't cross).

 

I'm just picturing like seven of them or whatever sitting on these giant thrones and Solas is just casual, leaning back, bored with all of them arguing and fighting over stupid **** all the time.  I'm sort of turned on by that, actually.

 

Rawr.


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Battlemage Mail.
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Oh the hat is an Orlesian Mage hat...
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You know, looking back, the food that represents him being Scotch Bonnet candies makes so much sense. A delicate balance of sweet and spicy.

 

I was so confused way back when that was revealed.

 

What even is a scotch bonnet candy??



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Oh the hat is an Orlesian Mage hat...

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If it's of any interest to anyone I could post my screenshots of some of the codexentries from temple of Mythal later? I need to wrestle the pc out the hands of a tiny person watching my little pony first...
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Yeah, that was kind of out of left field. I thought the Dalish were losing their magic and mage children were important? Honestly, it feels like it was added so Vivienne could be right about something if she was arguing with a Dalish mage.

 

This was a couple pages back, but I just got home from work. This did irk me immensely, yes. I never got the impression the Dalish kicked out anyone, let alone mages, nor that they disliked mages to any degree. Merril was moved to a clan that needed a(nother) mage, and the Dalish in DA2 accepted Feynriel no questions asked. Merril even said "it's your humanity that would set you apart, not your magic." They even endured torture to protect him (you can come across some Templars and Dalish hunters arguing at the front of the camp; one of the Dalish said they "used fire" to hurt one of their hunters trying to get info on Feynriel- my Hawke was always "eff this sh-" once he heard that and sides with the Dalish, or diffuses the fight so they both part).

 

So why would they toss out mages to die? My boy was pretty offended on Minaeve's behalf and maintains that his clan never did anything like that. It was also beyond irritating when Viviene got to say "well you Dalish throw out your mage children to die neener neener" and there was no option to express that some Dalish might do that, but that they are wrong to do so. I was left feeling completely bewildered by that exchange and the lack of ability to defend the culture left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

It just seems so very contradictory to what we've already been shown and told, and adds fuel to the anti-Dalish fires. "Oh them? They put children out into the wild to die when they have too many mages, see how much they suck and why their culture sucks and why elves suck." :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I also had that issue with her on my Qunari mage when she says "well your people cut out their tongues." Uh, no. My people don't do that. Qunari do that. (I have a very visceral hate for that woman, and she despises my Dalish inquisitor, he feels the same for her, and nothing will ever come of this very strained business relationship between them XD).

 

So yeah. BW why you no give me good retort to snooty mage lady who disdains everything my Lavellan says and does? :pinched:


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I need to get me that hat - Come here, Cole, I found you a hat Vivienne can't complain about!



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Oh btw, I read on wiki that Solas was hot blooded in his younger age, ( had to look it up ) but what do YOU think it means? Hoot blooded as in quick to anger, or well the other option ;)



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This was a couple pages back, but I just got home from work. This did irk me immensely, yes. I never got the impression the Dalish kicked out anyone, let alone mages, nor that they disliked mages to any degree. Merril was moved to a clan that needed a(nother) mage, and the Dalish in DA2 accepted Feynriel no questions asked. Merril even said "it's your humanity that would set you apart, not your magic." They even endured torture to protect him (you can come across some Templars and Dalish hunters arguing at the front of the camp; one of the Dalish said they "used fire" to hurt one of their hunters trying to get info on Feynriel- my Hawke was always "eff this sh-" once he heard that and sides with the Dalish, or diffuses the fight so they both part).

So why would they toss out mages to die? My boy was pretty offended on Minaeve's behalf and maintains that his clan never did anything like that. It was also beyond irritating when Viviene got to say "well you Dalish throw out your mage children to die neener neener" and there was no option to express that some Dalish might do that, but that they are wrong to do so. I was left feeling completely bewildered by that exchange and the lack of ability to defend the culture left a bad taste in my mouth.

It just seems so very contradictory to what we've already been shown and told, and adds fuel to the anti-Dalish fires. "Oh them? They put children out into the wild to die when they have too many mages, see how much they suck and why their culture sucks and why elves suck." :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I also had that issue with her on my Qunari mage when she says "well your people cut out their tongues." Uh, no. My people don't do that. Qunari do that. (I have a very visceral hate for that woman, and she despises my Dalish inquisitor, he feels the same for her, and nothing will ever come of this very strained business relationship between them XD).

So yeah. BW why you no give me good retort to snooty mage lady who disdains everything my Lavellan says and does? :pinched:

You're not alone, one of my dreams is that someone will mod in the ability to punch her repeatedly.
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I always got the impression that Dalish clans had a great deal of variety amongst themselves. It seems only likely considering they do not often have contact with one another and so would deal with such things in a different manner. Some clans migh risk taking in another mage like the Sabrae (Mahariel's) Clan while others would prefer to only keep those needed to fufill the role of Keeper, First and Second respectively. Their culture might differentiate as well as would the possibility that they might place a greater deal of weight on one god specifically.

 

The Lavellan clan is said to be more progressive in comparison to most Dalish clans in how they handle contact with outsiders, which would be supported by the elven Inquisitor having a knowledge of Varric's books and their Keeper sending someone to investigate the Conclave.

 

It also gives me the headcanon that the Lavellan clan is a bunch of oddballs that the other clans tend to steer clear away because of their habit of always wanting to show them their fine collection of other racial junk. Early on,  I used to headcanon my Inquisitor's kleptomania as being a trait of the clan, who casually snatches someones boots without a threat or a care simply because the boots were there to steal. 

 

In short, I really freaking love the Lavellan clan.


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I can't reply to the fanart/fanfiction topic, but just in case, I keep updating my Solas fanfiction list(it's by no means complete, we all have diverse tastes) here(because the link in the thread will grow outdated in time): http://www.shsforums...tions/?p=573718

 

 

(btw, I've been advertising "that bald elf" to all my Russian friends, it's kind of a running gag in one of sci-fi writing communities now, and I just got a letter with a typo, which said "bold elf". you know what? I kind of liked it!)

 

It looks like you aren't a member of the group, so I sent you an invite. You should be able to join without one, membership is open, but some people have had trouble before.

 

And ultimately very, very painful.   :(

 

Oh, that is so accurate.

 

What even is a scotch bonnet candy??

 

Scotch bonnets are a very spicy kind of pepper. Scotch bonnet candies are spicy pepper coated in sugary goodness. Apparently it doesn't do much for the "oh my god I'm dying" feeling after eating one though. There's more about in the OP.

 

I always got the impression that Dalish clans had a deal of variety amongst each other. It seems only likely considering they do not often have contact with one another and so would deal with such things in a different manner. Some clans migh risk taking in another mage like the Sabrae (Mahariel's) Clan while others would prefer to only keep those needed to fufill the role of Keeper, First and Second respectively. Their culture might differentiate as well as would the possibility that they might place a greater deal of weight on one god specifically.

 

 

Then why isn't there an option to say that the practice is on a clan by clan basis? The implication that a Dalish elf can't even say "not my clan" is that this is very much the cultural norm.


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What even is a scotch bonnet candy??

Scotch bonnets are a kind of chili pepper. Often used in caribbean cooking. They have a sweet flavour but they're also very spicy.

 

Scotch bonnet candies would presumably be a candied version of those. Someone tried making some back when we didn't have a ton to talk about in here. They were apparently so spicy it hurt.


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Scotch bonnets are a kind of chili pepper. Often used in caribbean cooking. They have a sweet flavour but they're also very spicy.

Scotch bonnet candies would presumably be a candied version of those. Someone tried making some back when we didn't have a ton to talk about in here. They were apparently so spicy it hurt.


Yeah, poor Eric...he almost died... I bet that's why he takes great pleasure in punching Solas now :(

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Guys. guys! Urgently! I need to know which head schematic is THIS? :lol:

 

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Yeah, poor Eric...he almost died... I bet that's why he takes great pleasure in punching Solas now :(

Oh! There are links in the OP. Totally forgot about that.

 

 

 

- DA Fan made Scotch bonnet candy! (how they did it and their reaction to trying to eat it)

To put things in perspective:

 

Jalapeno = 2,500–10,000 on the Scoville scale

Scotch Bonnet = 100,000–350,000



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It's from a mabari bite  :P

 

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(to scintilla) It was my impression so it might actually be the cultural norm of which there are some exceptions to. I had my Lavellan be somewhat naive and innocent to how other clans worked so it was as big a shock to her as it was to me to learn that it was even a thing so she just reacted by saying her clan found ways around out without dismissing it as a thing.

 

It's funny; it makes a bit of sense and yet it makes a bit of not-sense considering how Dalish talk about the gift of magic once being something every elf held and wanting it back but at the same time, sending "excessive" clan members who have it away.

 

That said, it is possible the clans who do it consider it just a sad circumstance to better ensure the survival of the clan and avoiding magic-related problems because they can focus all their attention onto a single or two students.

 

It's an imperfect take on it but it's what I got.


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I almost wish I would have paid more attention to Merrill but I really, really didn't like her. lol.


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I almost wish I would have paid more attention to Merrill but I really, really didn't like her. lol.

Ha, I think those are the only two stories about the Dread Wolf.



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I always got the impression that Dalish clans had a great deal of variety amongst themselves. It seems only likely considering they do not often have contact with one another and so would deal with such things in a different manner. Some clans migh risk taking in another mage like the Sabrae (Mahariel's) Clan while others would prefer to only keep those needed to fufill the role of Keeper, First and Second respectively. Their culture might differentiate as well as would the possibility that they might place a greater deal of weight on one god specifically.

 

The Lavellan clan is said to be more progressive in comparison to most Dalish clans in how they handle contact with outsiders, which would be supported by the elven Inquisitor having a knowledge of Varric's books and their Keeper sending someone to investigate the Conclave.

 

It also gives me the headcanon that the Lavellan clan is a bunch of oddballs that the other clans tend to steer clear away because of their habit of always wanting to show them their fine collection of other racial junk. Early on,  I used to headcanon my Inquisitor's kleptomania as being a trait of the clan, who casually snatches someones boots without a threat or a care simply because the boots were there to steal. 

 

In short, I really freaking love the Lavellan clan.

 

Makes sense to me, and I agree. His clan does seem very progressive (why else would they even care about stupid human sh-t like the mage/templar war? even Solas points that out!). My own headcannon is that my boy never really cared overmuch about outsiders in general, they're just other people that he talks to some time, but they weren't especially important on a personal level, either to seek them out or to assume they're all terrible people. While my Dalish Warden did hate humans at the start of everything and was a snot about it until he softened about halfway through the game, my Lavellan is more curious to learn about them and knows that not all humans suck (he is courting one fantabulous Tevinter, afterall). He wouldn't just go casually strolling into any random human village, but he has no reason to hate them, either.

 

He chose to represent the Inquisition as a Dalish, in the hopes of advancing understanding between his culture and others, and to show that not all of them are xenophobic. He has hopes of peace between the clans themselves, and the Dalish and humans, and the Dalish and city elves. (I suppose in general, he's just all around a nice guy; he's probably my kindest character across all three games and the dozens I've started and gotten to various stages before starting again.)

 

I really need to finish this game and then play through with a female Lavellan and go after Solas. I don't think I can bring myself to play anything but Lavellan characters. I just want to smoosh the whole lot of them and make them feel better. I do wish I could smoosh Solas with a male Lavellan, though, hahaha. I was mildly disappointed over that.


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Then why isn't there an option to say that the practice is on a clan by clan basis? The implication that a Dalish elf can't even say "not my clan" is that this is very much the cultural norm.

IIRC, you can tell Minaeve that your clan does it differently. I definitely chose that option. "All elves had magic and were immortal" and "too many mages are bad" just doesn't jive logically, IMO.

Oh btw, I read on wiki that Solas was hot blooded in his younger age, ( had to look it up ) but what do YOU think it means? Hoot blooded as in quick to anger, or well the other option ;)

Well, his line about liking the smell of danger, intrigue and sex at the ball is suggestive.
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I do find it somewhat hilarious that an elven playthrough of Inquisition can be titled "Everyone's an ass to the elf even the other elves" - Guess it's karma for having a slightly racistic Warden, though to be fair she overcame it. It's just that this Inquisitor was generally an all-around nice character who just wanted to learn about the outside world.

 

Lavellan: Oh, I can't wait to experience all the cultures and preserve all that knowledge :D

Solas: I don't see elves as my people, also everything you know is wrong.

Sera: Elfy elfy elfy

Minave: The dalish kicked me out of my clan as a child and left me to fend on my own - so much for sticking together

Abelas: Shemlen

Lavellan: :(

 

That said, I do like what we learn, I just find hilarious how much of it is suddenly cropping up.


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Whoops Wrong story

 

Sooo... any speculations on what the "true story" is?  Here's my theory.

 

The Silent Plains, hmm.... could be an elven god's city-state, possibly Dirthamen's?  So Keepers were slave keepers, literally.  Fen'Harel came to the slaves in their dreams and told them that they could escape, or inspired them to rebel.  And then the Keeper set the dog on him?  A Fade creature?  Not sure what this represents.  In any case, the Keeper drove Fen'Harel away as not to upset the status quo.

 

And now I have the mental image of Solas running away and grabbing his butt in pain after the dog bites him there.


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