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[Shechinah]

(to zambixi) I had a moment in which I went "D'aww" with Cole in the Emerald Graves -the female Inquisitor has a bit of a habit of shouting "Goodbye!" really agressively after combat. During my trip through the Emerald Graves, I heard Cole shout "Goodbye!" after combat twice but in a much quieter tone. It was absolutely adorable.

[Renmiri1]

Nope! I'm pretty sure he was exploring the... Forbidden Oasis? Is that what it's called? The place for all of the shards. 

 

And then he must have gone back to Skyhold and kissed Solas or something. :U

 

ninja'd...

 

 

Umm. So my post isn't completely redundant, here's a picture I'm commissioning from this artist:

Spoiler

Gorgeous art

 

WHO KISSED SOLAS IN THE DESERT

 

Tha better be Lavellan or that bald elf will get a punch in his kisser!

[Cheerios789]

Gorgeous art

 

WHO KISSED SOLAS IN THE DESERT

 

Tha better be Lavellan or that bald elf will get a punch in his kisser!

 

I hope it was Dorian.  That Tevinter could charm the leggings off anyone.  Except possibly Fenris ...

[myahele]

I guess I kinda understand why the Dalish kick out Sola's out of superstition. Here he finds them, speak good Dalish and belittles them like children, Ala the Dalish mage we bump into in the hinterlands.

[Renmiri1]

I hope it was Dorian.  That Tevinter could charm the leggings off anyone.  Except possibly Fenris ...

Yeah but Lavellan got dibs on Solas!

[Addai]

(to zambixi) I had a moment in which I went "D'aww" with Cole in the Emerald Graves -the female Inquisitor has a habit of shouting "Goodbye!" really agressively after combat and twice during my trip through the Emerald Graves did I hear Cole shout "Goodbye!" after combat but in a much quieter tone. It was adorable.

I hadn't thought of it but maybe he's mimicking her, practicing being real.    Cole just... I can't sometimes. His line about Rhys, "let him forget"... it breaks me. Do they give Oscars for VA work? They should.

 

As for Solas... Isn't it cool that when she opens the rift at Adamant, the Inquisitor single-handedly (pun intended) not only saves his life, but gives him his ultimate dream of walking the Fade physically? *buffs nails* All in a day's work, Dread Wolf.

[madrar]

 

Writers music!

 

 http://blog.bioware....ge-inquisition/

 

Edit: Really good stuff 

 

 

 

Weekes, you magnificent.  Goddamn.  Bastard.   It is terrible.  It is crushing.  It is perfect.  Not just in context of Solas x Inquisitor, but -potentially- in broader historical context as well.

 

Keeping it simple, the most direct connections are the most obvious:

 

Your faith was strong but you needed proof

You saw her bathing on the roof

Her beauty in the moonlight overthrew you

 

Pretty direct Solavellan reference.   His desperate, abused faith that there is hope for the world- that flawed beings are capable of creating a just, fair, equitable society- that modern elves are capable of regaining the majesty that was lost - is Solas' Big Thing.  He wants, desperately, to believe- and over the course of their relationship Lavellan becomes his proof.   For him, her beauty is not just literal: she is possessed of a unique and beautiful spirit, a curiosity and openness that defines his true People. Again in Cole's terms - she is real, and so everyone could be real.   Real Elvhen, as Solas believes they could and should be.  It changes everything.

 

She tied you to a kitchen chair

She broke your throne, and she cut your hair

And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

 

Lavellan ties Solas to this world.  Not the fade, not the ancient past.  Her very existence opens an alternate path to his (apparent) original plan to return the world to its state before the veil and the fall of Arlathan.   It changes everything....

 

Baby I have been here before

I know this room, I've walked this floor

I used to live alone before I knew you.

I've seen your flag on the marble arch

Love is not a victory march

It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

 

....It changes everything, but it cant.  In the end, he's too committed to his path for the ghost of an old hope to turn him from it.  Too bruised perhaps, to risk failing yet again.   His love for her, and what she represents, is a cold and broken Hallelujah.  

 

I did my best, it wasn't much

I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch

I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you

And even though it all went wrong

I'll stand before the Lord of Song

With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah

 

*faceplants*  Weekes.  Goddamn it, Weekes.  If you don't give Solas a happy ending, I swear to the Maker I will end you.

[chibielf]

Nope! I'm pretty sure he was exploring the... Forbidden Oasis? Is that what it's called? The place for all of the shards. 
 
And then he must have gone back to Skyhold and kissed Solas or something. :U
 
ninja'd...
 
 
Umm. So my post isn't completely redundant, here's a picture I'm commissioning from this artist:

Spoiler

I don't think Weekes was romancing Solas in that playthru. You can't randomly kiss Solas.
Unless you can and its a bug. Omg. What if it is a bug? (I doubt it)
Someone should ask Weekes why we can't randomly kiss Solas.

[Sable Rhapsody]

It's ambiguous, but I'm not sure how people can conclude he doesn't care about elves when he will only romance a female elf. That's... a pretty big clue, isn't it? Also in the Assquisitor video, he talks about not having spent much time with humans.

 

I think his point is more nuanced, it's that you have to look past people's appearances to their character and spirits. It's classic Solas, really. He knows there is good and evil among the elves and that you have to discern the true face, not just the pointy ears.

 

I think Solas does care deeply about the elves, but even he has trouble looking past appearances.  He describes the plight of the city elves and Tevinter slaves as similar to any of the oppressed or downtrodden.  He considers Sera "apart from herself," a shadow of what she should have been if things had gone as he planned.  He sees the Dalish as misguided, arrogant children.

 

I don't think Solas lacks empathy, just perspective.  He sees the elves of the Dragon Age through his ancient perspective rather than how they might see themselves.  He wants to understand, but has trouble looking at the world through someone else's eyes.  In banters with characters like Varric, where he admits that the other character might have a point, it usually takes him a while to come around.  He doesn't stop trying, though, and I think that's what makes him an admirable character even if he makes mistakes.

[Prince of Keys]

I don't think Weekes was romancing Solas in that playthru. You can't randomly kiss Solas.
Unless you can and its a bug. Omg. What if it is a bug? (I doubt it)
Someone should ask Weekes why we can't randomly kiss Solas.

 

Oh, I meant that he must have triggered the balcony conversation or the post-What Pride Had Wrought conversation or something, not that Solas was being randomly kissed.

 

Uh, and I don't know any of this for sure, I'm just guessing! I don't want anyone thinking I know things when I don't...! @_@

[_Lucinia]

Sort of Solas related.  

 

I really enjoyed this interview with Alix.  She talks about her love of the Weekes, and mentions the Vallaslin scene (around 38 mins in).  I just love her enthusiasm for BioWare, and DAI.

http://www.nerdappro...-regan-returns/

[sunhair]

 

 

 

 

 

Weekes, you magnificent.  Goddamn.  Bastard.   It is terrible.  It is crushing.  It is perfect.  Not just in context of Solas x Inquisitor, but -potentially- in broader historical context as well.

 

Keeping it simple, the most direct connections are the most obvious:

 

Your faith was strong but you needed proof

You saw her bathing on the roof

Her beauty in the moonlight overthrew you

 

Pretty direct Solavellan reference.   His desperate, abused faith that there is hope for the world- that flawed beings are capable of creating a just, fair, equitable society- that modern elves are capable of regaining the majesty that was lost - is Solas' Big Thing.  He wants, desperately, to believe- and over the course of their relationship Lavellan becomes his proof.   For him, her beauty is not just literal: she is possessed of a unique and beautiful spirit, a curiosity and openness that defines his true People. Again in Cole's terms - she is real, and so everyone could be real.   Real Elvhen, as Solas believes they could and should be.  It changes everything.

 

She tied you to a kitchen chair

She broke your throne, and she cut your hair

And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

 

Lavellan ties Solas to this world.  Not the fade, not the ancient past.  Her very existence opens an alternate path to his (apparent) original plan to return the world to its state before the veil and the fall of Arlathan.   It changes everything....

 

Baby I have been here before

I know this room, I've walked this floor

I used to live alone before I knew you.

I've seen your flag on the marble arch

Love is not a victory march

It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

 

....It changes everything, but it cant.  In the end, he's too committed to his path for the ghost of a different hope to turn him from his original plan.  Too bruised perhaps, to risk failing yet again.   His love for her, and what she represents, is a cold and broken Hallelujah.  

 

I did my best, it wasn't much

I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch

I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you

And even though it all went wrong

I'll stand before the Lord of Song

With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah

 

*faceplants*  Weekes.  Goddamn it, Weekes.  If you don't give Solas a happy ending, I swear to the Maker I will end you.

 

^ This So much 

[zambixi]

(to zambixi) I had a moment in which I went "D'aww" with Cole in the Emerald Graves -the female Inquisitor has a bit of a habit of shouting "Goodbye!" really agressively after combat. During my trip through the Emerald Graves, I heard Cole shout "Goodbye!" after combat twice but in a much quieter tone. It was absolutely adorable.

 

I love his personal quest, where Mama Lavellan decides if Cole is gonna grow up to be a real boy or a spirit. I think someone on Tumblr called Solas the father and Varric the Dwarf Uncle in that quest xD

 

 

Unrelated note:

Does anyone remember if Solas' card remains the hierophant post-game? I deleted that save by mistake and haven't finished again with Lavellan. If it does, can someone grab a screen of it? 

[Lorien19]

I hadn't thought of it but maybe he's mimicking her, practicing being real. Cole just... I can't sometimes. His line about Rhys, "let him forget"... it breaks me. Do they give Oscars for VA work? They should.

As for Solas... Isn't it cool that when she opens the rift at Adamant, the Inquisitor single-handedly (pun intended) not only saves his life, but gives him his ultimate dream of walking the Fade physically? *buffs nails* All in a day's work, Dread Wolf.

I enjoyed that quest a lot,but my favourite part was how everyone panicked even Cole a spirit,while Solas was like "Ooh fascinating".
I think I liked him even more after that quest,even though I did raise an eyebrow when the demon called him Harellan.

[Melchizedek]

 

 

 

 

 

Weekes, you magnificent.  Goddamn.  Bastard.   It is terrible.  It is crushing.  It is perfect.  Not just in context of Solas x Inquisitor, but -potentially- in broader historical context as well.

 

 

 

Pretty direct Solavellan reference.   

 

 

 

Hmm... if anything, I think the romance is more inspired by the tales of Hallelujah rather than the other way around (Solavellan reference as you put it). Hallelujah, written by Leonard Cohen (first as a poem and then as a song), is an old classic that has been sung and covered by countless artists and singers. The story told in the song is the biblical tale of King David who fell in love with Bathsheba who was married at the time. Consumed with love for her, David planned the death of Bathsheba's husband and claimed her for himself. This angered the lord. Thoug Bathsheba was fated to be with him, David's act of rebel belied his lack of patience and willingness to defy the will of god. The tale then went on to tell how David was brought down, and in his penance wrote the Hallelujah to redeem himself in the eye of God.

 

So yeah, the connection (faith, rebellion, God, belief, forbidden love, etc...) are tied tightly between the lyrics and story of Hallelujah and Sollavelan romance in the way that Hallelujah inspired it as it has inspired countless other tales before.  

[chibielf]

That song. Hallelujah. The cries. The tears! Of course he listened to that during writing the romance. Omg.
The way the end was so open. I really hope Weekes is playing the long game and has plans for it to continue. I mean, the potential feels and tear jerker moments this love story can have. I neeeeed it.

[Shechinah]

(to zambixi) It does. That's why a lot of people think the romance has a positive effect on him since his unromanced-card seems to always be the Tower. 

[vertigomez]

Weekes, you magnificent.  Goddamn.  Bastard.   It is terrible.  It is crushing.  It is perfect.  Not just in context of Solas x Inquisitor, but -potentially- in broader historical context as well.
 
Keeping it simple, the most direct connections are the most obvious:
 
Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty in the moonlight overthrew you
 
Pretty direct Solavellan reference.   His desperate, abused faith that there is hope for the world- that flawed beings are capable of creating a just, fair, equitable society- that modern elves are capable of regaining the majesty that was lost - is Solas' Big Thing.  He wants, desperately, to believe- and over the course of their relationship Lavellan becomes his proof.   For him, her beauty is not just literal: she is possessed of a unique and beautiful spirit, a curiosity and openness that defines his true People. Again in Cole's terms - she is real, and so everyone could be real.   Real Elvhen, as Solas believes they could and should be.  It changes everything.
 
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah
 
Lavellan ties Solas to this world.  Not the fade, not the ancient past.  Her very existence opens an alternate path to his (apparent) original plan to return the world to its state before the veil and the fall of Arlathan.   It changes everything....
 
Baby I have been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you.
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
Love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
 
....It changes everything, but it cant.  In the end, he's too committed to his path for the ghost of a different hope to turn him from his original plan.  Too bruised perhaps, to risk failing yet again.   His love for her, and what she represents, is a cold and broken Hallelujah.  
 

I did my best, it wasn't much
I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch
I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you
And even though it all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah
 
*faceplants*  Weekes.  Goddamn it, Weekes.  If you don't give Solas a happy ending, I swear to the Maker I will end you.

I'M DEAD, I'M OFFICIALLY DEAD. And I'm starting to think Weekes really ships Solavellan, quite apart from his Solas love.

Moar Solas music:

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I used to rule the world
Seas would rise when I gave the word
Now in the morning I sleep alone
Sweep the streets I used to own

I used to roll the dice
Feel the fear in my enemy's eyes
Listen as the crowd would sing,
"Now the old king is dead! Long live the king!"

One minute I held the key
Next the walls were closed on me
And I discovered that my castles stand
Upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand

I hear Jerusalem bells are ringing
Roman Cavalry choirs are singing
Be my mirror, my sword and shield
My missionaries in a foreign field

For some reason I can't explain
Once you go there was never
Never an honest word
And that was when I ruled the world

It was the wicked and wild wind
Blew down the doors to let me in
Shattered windows and the sound of drums
People couldn't believe what I'd become

Revolutionaries wait
For my head on a silver plate
Just a puppet on a lonely string
Oh, who would ever wanna be king?

I hear Jerusalem bells are ringing
Roman Cavalry choirs are singing
Be my mirror, my sword and shield
My missionaries in a foreign field

For some reason I can't explain
I know Saint Peter won't call my name
Never an honest word
But that was when I ruled the world

[amranthe]

I love his personal quest, where Mama Lavellan decides if Cole is gonna grow up to be a real boy or a spirit. I think someone on Tumblr called Solas the father and Varric the Dwarf Uncle in that quest xD

 

 

Unrelated note:

Does anyone remember if Solas' card remains the hierophant post-game? I deleted that save by mistake and haven't finished again with Lavellan. If it does, can someone grab a screen of it? 

 

I'm pretty sure it does. At least that's what I remember (with the giant X through it ) 

[Mims]

(to zambixi) It does. That's why a lot of people think the romance has a positive effect on him since his unromanced-card seems to always be the Tower. 

 

I could see them having a DLC where Solas's actions are determined by how you 'win' him over. But for a romanced Lavellan, you'd get his favor regardless. 

[zambixi]

I enjoyed that quest a lot,but my favourite part was how everyone panicked even Cole a spirit,while Solas was like "Ooh fascinating".
I think I liked him even more after that quest,even though I did raise an eyebrow when the demon called him Harellan.

 

Relevant:

Spoiler

 

 

source: http://limpstella.tu...s-boring-im-not

[Lorien19]

Relevant:

Spoiler

source: http://limpstella.tu...s-boring-im-not

Hehe,I would so loose Solas' respect if he ever found out that I skipped the fade in origins. xD

[Hedinve]

So I've done the ending. Again. I thought maybe I would feel a little bit "yay we beat the big baddie" this time as it's not new to me, but no. This romance completely ruins what should have been a moment of glory and triumph. All I want to to in the end is scream. Loudly. I'm actually angry at my self for not saving this romance for a last playthrough. 

 

Mr. Weekes, I tip my (non-existing) hat to you, you made this old, cold and cynical lady feel something. Well played.

[Shechinah]

I'm rather glad I went into Inquisition as unspoiled as possible and romanced Solas as the first because it made it all the more glorious when the reveal came.  Seriously, I thought his hesitation was because Lavellan was the First to her clan and a Dalish and so he thought that would be too much or he had gotten too used to being on his own and so believed he'd continue alone after the Breach matter had been settled.

 

It made it all the more harder to have the romance end in the heartwrenching way it did because the game gave my imagination time to wonder how the romance would turn out.  

[Lorien19]

So I've done the ending. Again. I thought maybe I would feel a little bit "yay we beat the big baddie" this time as it's not new to me, but no. This romance completely ruins what should have been a moment of glory and triumph. All I want to to in the end is scream. Loudly. I'm actually angry at my self for not saving this romance for a last playthrough.

Mr. Weekes, I tip my (non-existing) hat to you, you made this old, cold and cynical lady feel something. Well played.

I agree,I wish my Lavellan had the options to at least pat Solas on the shoulder after the final battle,I'm sure she was more than pleased that both made it out alive.(Although glomping is certainly what she'd like to do)And that scene on the balcony is heartbreaking,even though I like the look on Lavellans face.In my headcanon she is determined to find him.